welcome back to the XTS custom shop here
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in Nashville Tennessee say hi Eric hi
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Eric and say hi Zach hi Zach special
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guest Zack child's uh in the house and
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we've got where we once had one board
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yes there is now two yes and what was
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kind of the secondary project Lil John
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there yes uh W to sort of influencing
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cuz you had a different plan for the big
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one I did have a different plan for the
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big one but I I've used these pedals for
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so long and I was going to use some
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different pedals that I hadn't really
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used a whole lot and so as I thought
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about it I thought that's a bad
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idea why why would why do you say that
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new pedals are exciting and all those
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things they are exciting but the you
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know the right after uh on the 26th of
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December the day after Christmas I'm
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flying to Vegas to go play six nights
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with this new board and I just thought
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that's a dumb move to have a bunch of
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stuff that you don't know well and to be
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using like I mean we're talking about
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using a different a different overdrive
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a different uh you know different delay
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different compressor I mean it was like
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it was completely different and and so I
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just realized it's like this is not a
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good idea I love these pedals I actually
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had duplicates of pretty much all of
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them except for maybe the dm3 and so you
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know I had to buy one of these but the
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rest of them I already had because I'm
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one of those morons that you know when
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you find something that you really like
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you feel like you have to have a backup
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I know it's a sickness do you think that
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that comes from like a tech background
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it does it comes from that it comes from
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having that amount of of pressure on you
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and uh and feeling like you know you
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kind of rely on certain things and uh
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you just don't want to get caught with
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your pants down sure so so yeah I I
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think I think you hit the nail on the
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head that that having backups or
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everything because it was yeah that was
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the whole thing about being a guitar
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tech was that you had to have you know
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backups and backup plans and you had to
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be because there's so much pressure on
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the artist to you know put on a show and
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then you've got to keep them going sure
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yeah now both of you guys have
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considerable Tech backgrounds do you
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have any horror stories for new stuff
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bring being brought out day
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of and uh maybe not going so great it
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seemed like a good idea at the time I
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don't think I do okay I don't I I guess
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it's your guys's job to keep people from
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doing that part part of it and but I
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think there's just so much to uh I think
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when you have new stuff again I think
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I've said this before it's like you you
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have to kind of get comfortable with the
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new stuff and so many times you don't
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really have that opportunity unless
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there's rehearsals and so when you're
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just thrown into the gig you show up and
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you've got like 30 minutes to do you
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know to get a an ear mix and to kind of
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to to do a quick run through and that's
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it and then you've got to go play four
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hours and so it's like when you have all
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this stuff that you're not used to so
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it's it's more about me just it
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self-preservation sure and uh and making
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sure that I play music instead of
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fussing around with stuff for you know
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or during the whole 4 hours I mean
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wouldn't you agree I mean then then
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you're you're leaning over and you're
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like oh I don't like that that setting
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worked fine when I was running it
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through a a little mixer or and then all
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of a sudden it sounds completely
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different yeah well it definitely opens
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you up to even tiny little things just
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like the mechanics of how a pedal works
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or whatever you're like oh I didn't know
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it did that it's in some mode or right
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this didn't do what I was expecting
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which would normally be no big deal
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right but if you have between line check
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in the
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show that's that's your whole
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introduction to a device and you might
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be asking for trouble exactly so we've
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got all the same pedals with a couple
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add-ons so we I guess we won't belabor
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the the individual choices since you did
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a good job of explaining those in that
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other video yes there there'll be a
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little uh you know link here that if you
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want to go over and watch the video
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where we talk through all the pedals but
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basically yeah we've got the Mirage
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compressor we've got an analog man
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modified tremolo and this one is too
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even though it doesn't have the sticker
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on the front it's got the stamp on the
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side this mostortion was rehoused by
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y'all uh because the switch went bad
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this one has not been rehoused because
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the switch still works and uh y'all left
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enough room so that if it does have to
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be rehoused it can at some point point
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but I appreciated the fact that I I said
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why don't we just rehouse this and you
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said why why do that you know if it's
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working let's not mess with it so I
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appreciate that so we're leaving that
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alone uh then we've got the good old dm3
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that's been modified to work on 9 volts
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instead of 12 this one's you know same
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thing uh again these are still really
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inexpensive you know 120 bucks or so and
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then the Echo Park for now for now until
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as Zach blows it up you know you never
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know what's going to take off and what's
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not but anyway and the Echo Park is just
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a great kind of Do-it all thing the only
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thing is like we mentioned the other
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time it's just whether you can get along
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with the tap on it uh I can it doesn't
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bother me at all I like it a lot so uh
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and it it just has a really good the
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tape and the analog sounds on it and
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everything and then so this
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rig is basically to be able to use an
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amp or to go direct or to do both at the
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same time that was the whole point of
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this and this is so I can when I'm going
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out with an amp I don't have to take two
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of them because I have a backup right
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here or if I'm going direct then I can
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also run to an amp just to have some
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stage volume like the gig I'm going to
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go play in Vegas in uh in late December
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the
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vocalist you likes to use a wedge even
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though the rest of us are on ears and
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I'm going to go direct so instead of
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having guitar come through the wedge
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what I'll do is they have some of those
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boss Katana amplifiers that are there
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and so I'll go direct for my sound but
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I'll run this amp output off to that
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boss Katana just so that I can have a
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little bit of stage volume for the
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singer so that he can hear it without
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having to have that the monitors have
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guitar in it too that'll sound like a
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band thing yeah and so it just it helps
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it uh so yeah this this was all about
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having that versatility and the backup
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so I can go play a gig and I don't have
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to bring two amplifiers with me because
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if my amp blows up well guess what we
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can just take an XLR and we can go out
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of here or if you're just going direct
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only and I love this dream 65 it's it's
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you know it's got Reverb and tremolo in
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it which is nice it's got good EQ on it
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it's got a boost um I think it's just a
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and and a lot of these things try to do
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a lot of different things well
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and this is only trying to be a deluxe
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and I think it it just does a good job
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of it so uh it uh it keeps me happy so I
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really loved the way y'all put this
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together I loved the uh the flat work uh
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what do you call this that you that you
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put on top call them lamb tops lamb tops
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it almost sounds like lamb chops that
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was the idea yeah it's it's the board
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covering That Never Ends yeah so it just
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it just looks really nice and I I love
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this uh signal flow thing right here
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this is awesome yeah I told Zach I said
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I don't mind telling you but now I'm
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going to tell 20,000 other people that
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it seems like that's for you but really
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it's for us when you call later and
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you're like what do we do on that again
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and I'm like H I don't
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remember so I guess we ought to talk
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about some of the special features here
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because I mean really the the big thing
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is of course that what's different from
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this which is just a plain you know
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simple you know puddle board this has
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some other features on it so uh where
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where should we start like signal flow
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or the junction box yeah Eric why don't
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you talk us through the junction box cuz
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that'll cover kind of both the gags yeah
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well really the signal chain is the same
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as this one pretty much the uh the tuner
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and compressor or SWA doesn't really
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matter though this is up here so you can
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plug in and tuner down here because who
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likes a sideways tuner nobody prefers
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it uh but sometimes you do it because
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you you got to we didn't have to here uh
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so really the only trick thing is the
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box here there's an insert point between
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the mostortion and the delay to insert a
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volume pedal or really anything yeah it
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could be anything could add another dirt
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box for a gag effect you could put this
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whole other board in there and then
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would that be twice as much or half as
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much it might be I don't know if you
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divide by two that be a two * two or two
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with a little two up to the right of it
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cuz that's one of the one of the few
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things that you know you you get a lot
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of you know volume petals are are really
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great for uh you know for obviously
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doing swells and stuff like that and
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there's times where you're just like I
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really need a volume pedal you know for
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this and you really want it to be after
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your drives so that you still have your
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level of of drive and compression and
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things going on and you're just able to
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you know swell it in and you're and of
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course you want to have your delays
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after it so that uh you know so that
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things Trail off sure but uh yeah that's
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kind of the one thing that you know
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where you would you would take this and
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you wish that you you know okay well
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I've got to bring a volume pedal and so
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then I end up running it in front of it
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which is not a bad deal but it just ends
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up as you back it off of course you lose
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uh you lose drive if you have that on
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for sure and so that gets us and then
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what do we got going on here for to
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service the amp and then there is just a
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split between these two so the Echo Park
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feed two lines one can go out to an amp
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and then the other can feed the uh the
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amp over here yes the pretend amp the
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pretend amp which drives the canvas uh
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from
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walrus uh so that you you have XLR outs
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on this side and then the the cool thing
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about the way the Eric has set this up
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if there's no volume if you don't need
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one you just pull those and that just
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normals through so it can regress which
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I think is a an important feature cuz
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you never know what's going to happen
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and if anytime you have an option to
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make a rig do both and I think is
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probably a good thing yeah yeah it's
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nice to not have to put a a cable there
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to to get signal to go across there for
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sure and this canvas is kind of um I was
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just going to put a regular old uh jdi
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radial but uh but this this canvas is is
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Stereo if you need that if if they want
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two sources and uh it's a it's a line
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driver which means it doesn't take the
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signal down and then they have to up you
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know reup it back at the board it
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doesn't make it mic level right so uh
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you know of course that can throw people
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off which it has a uh it has a DI or or
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line driver you know option so you can
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take it down to uh to di you know mic
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level if you want oh and then a pad on
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top of that I didn't notice that yeah
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and then it has the ground lift on there
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because when when running amp and direct
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you're probably going to have to use uh
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uh the the ground lift I would think so
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yeah always good to have it just in case
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so I mean that's everything on top of
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the board and what are we doing for
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power we're using the good old CS6 and
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this is one I've had for a while it's
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got a little uh you know oh a little
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Road Weare a little Road Weare and it's
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got a piece of tape you over the uh over
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the little dips that's actually a
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non-trivial uh trick for uh those who
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use these it's I've it's pretty rare in
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fact I had no of no instance where one
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got accidentally flipped I do know of an
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in you do uh well then it saves that I
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think more common somebody gets under
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there and it's like something's not
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working I'm going to start flicking
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switches and it rarely does that make
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things better no it it it doesn't and
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and again yall uh you know labeled these
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as always and so we had to uh because
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this has six outputs and we've got uh
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seven devices that need power we had to
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uh we had to split one so the compressor
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yeah it looks like the compressor and
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the mostortion are off the same which is
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fine you don't need to have isolated
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power for those cuz they're not going to
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create uh noise problems but you
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absolutely have to have like the Echo
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Park and the dream 65 and probably the
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trim and the dm2 just to be safe since
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they've got Clocky things definitely
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that one definitely the tr2 you if you
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share that one you will often hear
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a sound and you know we don't want that
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nope not unless you're after that yeah
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um but yeah not unless you want that not
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unless you want that you always got to
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leave that door open these days
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yeah uh but yeah so this is it's another
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uh a bigger brother uh that has kind of
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the same Soul as the first one but a few
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more capabilities uh for when you need
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them and you can take the little one
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when you when you don't Little John Big
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John Big John there you go yeah well
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Zach thanks so much dude for letting us
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do this for you we really appreciate it
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I really appreciate I love just you know
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being able to finally have this board
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that can kind of do everything for me
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and saves me from having to run like
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another amp or like these off to the
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side and just being able to put this in
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one case and be able to fly with it or
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or go out on the road with it that's
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just a a huge thing and it just yeah
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this it looks
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amazing I need to thank uh my patreon
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people and uh and just you know all the
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people that that support me and uh man
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uh hope youall all have a great new year
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thanks and
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bye-bye