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Influential Albums - Luxury Liner Emmylou Harris

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A deep dive on Luxury Liner, the album that was my gateway drug for both the Telecaster and Country Music. My father bought the album for me on a road trip, and once I got home and placed the album on the turn table, I was hooked as soon as I heard the opening guitar riff from the title track. Luxury Liner is filled with top-notch songs, superb playing/singing, and beautiful production work from Brian Ahern. This album changed my musical direction.

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Emmylou Harris - Luxury Liner 
Released in 1977, by Warner Bros Records and Produced by Brian Ahern

Featuring:

The Hot Band
Albert Lee, Rodney Crowell, John Ware, Hank DeVito, Emory Gordy Jr, Glen D. Hardin 

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well hello friends and welcome to ask


0:17

Zach today we're going to take a deep


0:19

dive looking at the Emmylou Harris album


0:22

luxury liner this is part of a new


0:25

series I'm going to do on albums you


0:28

should know so this is going to be a fun


0:32

one I'm going to talk about the players


0:34

on it the producer the recording of it


0:38

some significant things as far as the


0:42

the playing and tones and such that are


0:45

used on it and yeah this is just a a


0:48

favorite album of mine and it's one that


0:52

golly has been on regular rotation for


0:55

over 30 years for me so I'm gonna have


0:58

fun here and I hope you do too


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all right let's dive in and uh just


Emmylou Harris Background


2:01

we're gonna do like a really brief


2:04

background we're going to do like the


2:06

nickel version of the Emmylou Harris


2:07

story just to kind of get up to uh to


2:10

this album


2:11

so Emmylou was born in Birmingham


2:14

Alabama she got into folk music she was


2:18

in New York City again this is the fast


2:20

version and she had a record deal with


2:25

Jubilee and she put on an album called


2:28

gliding bird and it was very much a folk


2:32

album with her kind of channeling one of


2:35

her Heroes Joan Baez


2:37

the album did not really go anywhere she


2:40

kind of has disavowed the album


2:43

and uh yeah and she went back to waiting


2:47

tables and she was discovered by Chris


2:51

Hillman of the birds and the Flying


2:53

Burrito Brothers who suggested that


2:55

Graham Parsons use her as a duet partner


2:59

and so Graham flew her out to Los


3:03

Angeles and she recorded two albums with


3:06

graham of course Graham died before the


3:09

second album could be released


3:11

and the management and the label decided


3:15

to move forward with Emmylou as kind of


3:18

an artist and in the same vein and


3:20

Graham had put together a a band for the


3:24

recording that was kind of a All-Stars


3:26

of country rock and they also included


3:28

to uh you know Elvis players James


3:32

Burton and Glendy Hardin and of course


3:35

he also had a bevy of other guys from


3:37

Bernie leddon to uh you know all sorts


3:40

of Buddy Emmons and all sorts of great


3:42

players on those those two gram solo


3:45

records


3:46

so they went forward and they worked


3:48

with a producer named Brian Hearn from


3:52

Canada


3:53

and Brian had had worked with Anne


3:56

Murray and was a great producer and so


Pieces of the Sky


4:00

their first collaboration Emmy and Brian


4:02

was this album pieces of the sky and


4:07

what an amazing first album again


4:09

because she doesn't recognize gliding


4:11

bird has a ton of great Tunes uh some of


4:15

them written by her


4:18

her kind of a singing partner her Graham


4:20

Rodney crowl and of course a bunch of


4:23

great playing by uh James Burton and not


4:28

yet the hot band because you you don't


4:30

have that that aggregation of players


4:33

together yet it's her second album so


4:36

when she's going to tour behind that


4:38

album she puts together the hot band


4:41

and the original hot band was Rodney


4:44

Crowell on rhythm guitar and Harmony


4:47

vocals and also contributing a lot of


4:49

great songs


4:50

you had Hank DeVito on pedal steel


4:53

guitar


4:54

John Ware on drums aka the shuffle king


4:58

of course James Burton on lead guitar


5:01

and you had Glendy Hardin on piano that


5:04

along with Elvis had come from Elvis


5:07

and that were actually touring with


5:09

Elvis and they would work around Elvis's


5:12

schedule and you had Emory Gordy Jr on


5:15

base who had been working with Elvis and


5:18

was famous for his bass part on Burning


5:21

Love


5:23

so that was the original hot band and


5:27

they began touring and they recorded


Elite Hotel


5:30

this album called Elite Hotel


5:33

and this fabulous sophomore effort by


5:36

Emmy with Brian Ahern still producing


5:39

and uh there are some live cuts on here


5:43

including ooh Las Vegas this is another


5:46

fabulous album that you ought to check


5:48

out


5:50

well after this album was released they


5:54

were they were touring and again they


5:58

were having to tour around Elvis's


6:00

schedule because of course they had two


6:03

players that were working in both bands


6:07

well there came a conflict and glendi


6:11

hardened The Pianist he decided to stay


6:14

with Emmylou but James decided to stay


6:17

with Elvis


6:19

and so at that point they they had a


6:23

little bit of time and they started


6:24

looking uh looking for Albert Lee


6:26

because Glendy Hardin had already worked


6:30

with Albert in the Crickets so the uh


6:34

and of course this is we're talking


6:36

about the post Buddy Holly


6:39

crickets that had Sonny Curtis and of


6:43

course the original bass player and


6:45

drummer kind of running that band and so


6:48

Albert had been a part of that and so


6:49

had Glendy Hardin and so uh Albert's


6:53

name quickly came up as a replacement


6:55

for James and before they could really


6:59

have a rehearsal or anything like that


7:01

on one of the shows that they were going


7:02

to do still with James Burton James was


7:05

sick and so Albert was thrown into


7:10

being the guitarist in the hot band and


7:14

uh


7:15

and yeah and they played they played


7:17

shows and before he knew it he was a


7:20

full-time hot band member replacing his


7:23

hero James Burton


7:25

so this was uh this was a tough thing uh


7:29

you know one James Amy Lou has even said


7:33

that James Burton really helped put the


7:36

hot in hot band and that there were


7:38

people that came to their shows to see


7:42

James


7:43

also uh Albert is a huge James Burton


7:48

fan in fact just to kind of bring this


7:51

home


7:51

recently I was emailed by Albert Lee and


7:55

the reason he emailed me was because he


7:57

had seen my episode where I talked about


8:00

James Burton's 52 telecaster and all the


8:02

changes that hit it had gone through


8:04

being


8:05

from its original kind of butterscotch


8:07

color to uh to being you know red with a


8:10

white pick guard as it is now


8:12

and he uh Albert was was kind enough to


8:15

send me an email saying how much he


8:17

enjoyed the episode and also he saw the


8:19

episode that I had done on on on him on


8:21

Albert and uh so there was also the


8:24

pressure of uh here's Albert Lee who is


8:28

replacing one of his biggest you know


8:31

influences and guitar Heroes that's a a


8:34

lot of pressure a lot of pressure from


8:35

also from the other guys in the band


8:37

because they were used to hearing


8:40

James's


8:41

playing in his tone and everything and


8:44

even though Albert plays a Telecaster


8:46

and plays in a similar style I mean he's


8:48

not identical to James and so Albert has


8:52

said that there was some pressure from


8:54

some of the other band members of really


8:55

wanting him to play as closely as


8:59

possible to James's original parts on


9:02

those first two albums


9:04

so it was a huge blessing you know for


9:08

Albert when they recorded the next album


9:11

which is the subject of today's episode


9:14

luxury liner so this was the first one


9:17

to feature Albert on on lead guitar and


9:23

it was a you know kind of a changeover I


9:27

think one of the uh some you know


9:29

reviewers and such have have noted that


9:32

this was the first Emily record that


9:33

didn't have a a Beatles cover on it and


9:36

uh but it it does have some fun covers


9:40

it all you know as as per usual it has


9:42

some gram covers and you know a tune


9:45

that she uh co-wrote with Rodney and


9:47

such but uh yeah let's uh


Luxury Liner


9:51

let's kind of dive in of course Brian


9:52

Ahern


9:54

was again the producer uh he and Emmy


9:59

would end up marrying a year or two


10:00

later


10:02

they recorded it using the enactron


10:05

truck which was this huge mobile truck


10:08

that had a you know a mixing console and


10:12

and recording gear in it and then they


10:13

would rent a house in which they did in


10:17

in Los Angeles and they would run cables


10:21

into the house and they would record in


10:24

different rooms in in the homes that


10:27

they would they would rent and they


10:29

would basically use the houses of


10:31

recording studio and then they would


10:32

have the control room and tape machines


10:35

and such in the enactron truck that was


10:38

outside on the street


10:40

so uh the first tune on the album is


10:43

luxury liner which is a Graham Parsons


10:46

tune that he did with the international


10:48

submarine band


10:50

it's here that we really need to give


10:52

praise to Brian Ahern of course I love


10:55

his production I love the way he mixes I


10:58

love the sounds he gets


11:01

but this tune really shows off some of


11:04

his arranging skills in that he won


11:08

changed the melody partially and the


11:10

chord changes on it so if you hear the


11:13

original version that Graham did


11:15

on the international submarine band


11:18

versus you know the uh the version on


11:21

this album uh they're they're you know


11:24

they're pretty different the uh you know


11:26

the original Graham version with the


11:28

submarine band sounds like it could have


11:30

been a monkey's tune or something like


11:31

that and uh I mean a cool monkey's tune


11:34

but it doesn't really uh it it doesn't


11:37

have the kind of the power and such that


11:39

uh that Emmy's version of it has a


11:43

couple really important notes is the


11:46

opening guitar that you hear on it the


11:49

diggy diggy diggy part is being played


11:52

by Brian Ahern so he's playing electric


11:54

guitar or an acoustic guitar with a


11:57

electric pickup on it through an


11:58

Echoplex


11:59

and he's playing that line because the


12:03

band was having trouble getting the


12:05

groove that he wanted and so to keep the


12:09

band playing the groove that he wanted


12:11

to stick to he plays that kind of Diggy


12:15

Diggy part throughout the song and


12:17

that's kind of the core and then of


12:20

course you you get the great uh drumming


12:22

by a John Ware the shuffle King and it's


12:27

a really really great song of course you


12:30

know you have Albert's wonderful


12:32

electric guitar parts you hear his kind


12:34

of


12:35

quasi-travis picking on there you hear


12:37

his fast single note lines on the solo


12:39

the uh the solo was made up from a


12:42

couple of passes so you know of course


12:44

they did some this is before Pro Tools


12:46

so they were you know cutting up some


12:48

tape and they put a couple different


12:49

passes together to create the uh the


12:53

solo on there and the tune really became


12:55

Albert's uh showpiece live because of


12:58

course James had the Tune ooh Las Vegas


13:01

off the last album that was kind of his


13:04

song to to show off with and of course


13:07

luxury honor became the vehicle for


13:10

Albert to really stretch out and play


13:13

long solos and uh and really amaze


13:16

crowds with his uh just amazing touch


13:19

melodic sense and tone and uh


13:23

he used his uh 53 tele and uh yeah just


13:28

a fantastic sound


Pancho Lefty


13:30

the uh the next song on the record is


13:34

Pancho and Lefty which of course is tune


13:36

written by Townes of Van Zant to me this


13:39

version of Pancho and Lefty is the


13:41

definitive version I know there are a


13:42

lot of fans of the Willy and Haggard


13:45

version of the tune and I I love it and


13:49

I love Reggie Young's you know gut


13:50

string solo on there where he's kind of


13:52

channeling Willy but uh to me this is


13:56

this is the the best version of the song


13:58

there's ever been and it's just


14:01

beautifully done it has an amazing B


14:04

Bender solo done by Albert Lee has


14:06

wonderful Harmony vocals by Albert and


14:09

Rodney Crowell and uh


14:12

it's just a a really great tune you also


Mickey Rafael


14:17

have


14:19

here you have


14:21

the guesting of Mickey Rafael if you're


14:24

not familiar with Mickey Rafael Mickey


14:27

is the wonderful harmonica player with


14:30

Willie Nelson from the beginning up


14:32

until today and Mickey is one of the


14:36

great guest artists that's on a number


14:39

of the cuts on the luxury liner and he


14:41

really helps take Pancho and Lefty up up


14:45

a notch with his wonderful kind of


14:47

almost string part sounding harmonica


14:49

work


14:51

Albert is not using his his own B Bender


14:55

guitar it was uh his was stolen so he


14:58

had a Dave Evans pull string with a


15:01

butcher block body


15:03

and it was on an equipment truck that


15:06

was stolen and so all the guys in


15:09

Emily's band lost


15:12

lost their gear


15:14

and but a fan was able to eventually


15:18

find the guitar buy it back and give it


15:21

back to to Albert so Albert did get his


15:23

guitar back but none of the other guys


15:25

got their got their gear back


15:27

so that is on that cut that's not that


15:30

guitar it's actually Bob warford's


15:33

Telecaster that he got from Clarence


15:36

white and so Albert borrowed Bob


15:38

warford's Telecaster with a B bender on


15:41

it and they used that for Pancho and


15:43

Lefty


15:44

the next tune of course is making


Making Believe


15:46

believe which is a great cover it's a


15:48

great version of the tune that uh that I


15:52

love and uh one of the besides Albert


15:54

Lee's wonderful solo on there another


15:57

real highlight of the tune is the the


16:00

guest Harmony work of the great herb


16:02

Peterson of course was in the desert


16:04

rose band and John Denver and others and


16:06

just


16:07

listening to his high Harmony on making


16:11

believe is just uh wow it's uh it's


16:14

fantastic


16:15

uh next up is uh you're supposed to be


16:18

feeling good which is a Rodney crowl


16:20

tune and here we have James coming back


16:24

and playing on so James plays on two


16:26

cuts on the record and so this is one of


16:29

them this is the first one and uh this


16:32

is another one that features some really


16:34

great playing by Mickey Rafael on the


16:38

harmonica uh James Burton plays some


16:40

wonderful guitar fills and such using a


16:45

phaser so it's probably either a phase


16:47

90 or a small Stone phaser and Rodney


16:50

crowl is playing really good rhythm


16:52

guitar part also going through a phaser


16:55

also uh I have to Spotlight Glendy


16:59

Hardin Glendy hardin's playing Fender


17:00

Rhodes on there and playing some uh his


17:04

part is really kind of gluing everything


17:06

together it's a it's a wonderful track


17:10

to finish out side two is I'll be your


17:13

San Antonio Rose which is a tune written


17:15

by Susanna Clark who of course at the


17:18

time was married to uh Guy Clark and


17:21

Suzanne was a wonderful songwriter in in


17:25

her own right and I'll be your San


17:27

Antonio Rose is a wonderful vehicle for


17:31

uh you know the great Honky Tonk piano


17:33

playing of Glenn D Hardin Albert Lee


17:35

kind of playing his uh kind of like his


17:39

own version of of James Burton Honky


17:41

Tonk stuff and again he's not copying


17:43

James in any way but kind of doing his


17:44

own thing and Ricky Skaggs is playing uh


17:48

you know fantastic fiddle work on there


17:50

it's a great tune and uh Albert and Hank


17:53

Devito play a wonderful twin you know


17:56

turnaround that's uh that's really nice


17:58

in it


17:59

side two kicks off with you never can


18:03

tell c'est la vie by Chuck Berry


18:06

of course most of you are probably


18:08

familiar with the song from uh you know


18:10

if you're not a Chuck Berry fan then you


18:12

probably uh saw it and heard it in Pulp


18:17

Fiction where John Travolta and Uma


18:19

Thurman are are dancing in the uh the


18:22

dance contest so great tune it's a great


18:25

arrangement of the song and uh


18:28

yeah and of course


When I Stopped Dreaming


18:30

uh the reason


18:34

you know the reason I became a big fan


18:36

of the the Bender work on there you know


18:38

of course Albert's using a b bender on


18:40

this tune is because he basically played


18:43

the whole solo on his starlex video that


18:45

he did in the early 1980s and I learned


18:48

that solo note for note and my college


18:51

roommates can still hum the cello even


18:54

though they don't even play guitar


18:57

uh next tune is uh when I stopped


19:01

dreaming which is great Louvin Brothers


19:03

tune and here we get wonderful Harmony


19:05

vocals by Dolly Parton and if you just


19:08

would have added in Linda ronstad sounds


19:10

like it could have been you know on a


19:12

trio album and who knows this might have


19:14

been a track from their uh you know the


19:18

the trio album that was never released


19:19

and they removed Linda's vocal and got


19:22

feyu you know Starling on there but uh


19:25

it's wonderful especially Mike


19:27

Aldridge's dobro work is wonderful and


19:30

then a uh of course another Mickey


19:33

Raphael harmonica solo that really takes


19:36

the tune up a notch uh then you have the


19:40

AP Carter tune hello stranger which uh


19:45

you know features Albert playing


19:46

mandolin and this is one of the reasons


19:48

why I and you know a lot of guys got


19:50

interested in mandolin from seeing


19:53

Albert Lee play mandolin because you


19:55

know it was like oh wait here's this


19:57

whole other color and that they can


19:58

bring to a band and uh you know you


20:02

don't have to be playing electric guitar


20:03

all the time and so yeah again great old


20:06

AP Carter tune hello stranger


She


20:10

uh uh next up is another Gram Parsons


20:13

tune this one co-written with Chris


20:15

Etheridge called she


20:17

and this has Albert playing a wonderful


20:21

lyrical guitar parts and he also gets


20:24

some nice Hank DeVito steel work uh to


20:29

me one of the the things that really


20:30

struck me in kind of listening to this


20:33

critically was that this is probably one


20:36

of the few Emmylou Tunes to not have any


20:38

Harmony vocals on it so they're just her


20:40

lead vocals and that's it


20:42

and it's a wonderful tune and it's also


20:46

fun to compare this with the original


20:48

version that Graham recorded that has


20:51

James Burton so it's it's fun to kind of


20:53

compare the kind of fills that Albert


20:56

did that are very lyrical and of course


20:59

the the stuff that James did which


21:02

yeah some people have said it sounds


21:04

like kind of a country soul so uh both


21:07

really great versions of the song


21:09

and the album ends with Tulsa Queen


Tulsa Queen


21:13

and this is a tuna co-written by Emmy


21:15

and Rodney Crowell and it's a train song


21:19

and uh


21:21

I really love it and one of the reasons


21:23

I love it is because of the bass and so


21:26

I found out that Emery Gordy Jr of


21:28

course the bass player with the hot band


21:30

and on this entire album


21:32

he used an interesting method to get a


21:35

doubled bass sound so what he was trying


21:37

to reproduce was the sound of a bass and


21:40

a Tic-Tac plane together but he didn't


21:42

want to play it twice


21:44

so what he did was he had a hagstrum


21:47

eight string bass now I know what you're


21:49

thinking no but he took off for the


21:52

strings so he just used you know four of


21:54

the strings not all eight of them and he


21:57

ran it through an EQ and he put all the


22:00

lows going to a direct box and that was


22:04

like the bass sound and then all the


22:06

highs were run to a fender basement amp


22:09

with some echo on it and with the treble


22:11

turned all the way up and that's the Tic


22:14

Tac sound so in that way you get this


22:17

really really great bass sound that has


22:20

really low lows and then it has this


22:22

this Tic Tac which I mean he also I


22:24

think he played it with a pick


22:26

and you get this really great doubled


22:29

bass sound and I don't think Emory Gordy


22:32

Jr gets enough love for his wonderful


22:35

base work whether it's burning love with


22:37

Elvis or on Albert's version of country


22:40

boy or you know all these you know


22:43

different tunes that Emery played on and


22:45

of course Emery uh you know would


22:48

produce Patty Loveless and of course


22:50

they were they're still married to this


22:52

day and uh so yeah yeah such a such an


Emmylou Harris


22:57

amazing uh album and uh like I said I


23:02

listen to it all the time and it was a


23:05

huge influence on me this is the album


23:07

that got me into both country music and


23:09

the Telecaster


23:11

so uh I uh I'd been on a a trip with my


23:16

family


23:17

and I was driving back home with just my


23:19

dad


23:20

and we stopped in San Antonio Texas at a


23:23

record store called Apple music that was


23:25

on San Pedro and of course the store is


23:27

no longer there


23:29

and I'd heard that Albert had played


23:32

with this you know


23:34

singer named Emmylou Harris I'd never


23:36

heard her before in my life


23:38

and again this was in 1990 and


23:43

I went through and I found this album


23:46

this is it this is the one uh in the


23:49

record shop and I saw Albert's name on


23:51

the back on the liner notes and I bought


23:55

it and it was about a three hour drive


23:58

back home and


24:01

I was just looking at it looking at the


24:03

liner notes seeing that James Burton was


24:05

also on two cuts and looking at the this


24:08

collage by Dan reader the photographer


24:11

and there's this wonderful you know


24:14

little photo of Albert Lee holding his


24:17

53 telecaster and all the guys in the


24:19

band and all the guests on it and yeah I


24:24

was just blown away and this got me into


24:27

you know Ricky Skaggs and Merle Haggard


24:30

and Buck Owens and everything else this


24:32

this album was my gateway to country


24:34

music and again to the Telecaster and uh


24:39

course


Telecaster


24:40

my first Telecaster you know because


24:42

this was this was 1990 uh my first


24:45

Telecaster was the James Burton


24:47

signature model so I was a black and


24:49

gold Paisley and I think I have a photo


24:51

here that I'll show of myself as uh


24:56

I guess I'm


24:58

you know you know 19 20 years old


25:01

something like that in college and uh


25:04

you know with my


25:06

Zack strap-on and with my


25:10

James Burton Paisley Telecaster so yeah


25:14

very important album uh go out and


25:17

listen to it and enjoy it and thank you


25:20

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25:25

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