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Flat-Wound, Pure Nickel, and Ground-Wound Strings on my Telecaster

Jan 14, 202526 minEp. 222
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A comparison between flat wound, pure nickel, and ground wound strings on my Tele. I was inspired to do this by the back of a set of D'Addario strings, showing a chart of their string offerings, from mellow to bright. Today, we start at the mellow end of the spectrum with the flat wound, going mid-way through the chart to the all-steel half-round set. 

Thanks to Andy Pitcher at D'Addario for supplying the various strings.

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0:00

on today's ask Zack we're going to


0:03

compare flat wound strings half round or


0:06

ground wound strings and pure nickel


0:08

strings we're going to explore the


0:11

Mellow side of guitar


0:14

[Music]


0:23

strings well hello friends and welcome


0:25

to ask Zack hope you're doing well today


0:28

yes we are going to compare round you


0:31

know pure nickel round wound strings uh


0:34

half round or ground wound strings and


0:36

flat wound strings so the reason this


0:39

came up was I started looking on the


0:43

back of a set of didario strings and you


0:47

know it it has this kind of line you


0:50

know kind of a tone line showing you


0:52

know mellow to super bright with you


0:56

know flat wound or their chromes on one


0:58

end and their Pro Steels on the far


1:01

other side as far as super bright and so


1:04

I thought it'd be fun to of course use


1:07

the same guitar and uh kind of cover the


1:11

Mellow side of things which are going


1:14

from mellowest to less mellow the most


1:17

mellow would be the flat wounds or


1:19

chromes then next up would be the pure


1:21

nickel and then the half round so we're


1:24

going to cover those and talk about them


1:26

and uh you know see if it's you know


1:29

something that that you want to check


1:31

out or mess with so yeah before we dive


1:35

in I want to thank all my patreon


1:37

members and everyone that watches the


1:38

show everyone that's bought a t-shirt


1:41

everyone that's uh put some money in the


1:43

tip jar I really appreciate it and uh if


1:45

you want to find out more about patreon


1:47

or or want to do tip jar or merch it's


1:50

uh all in the all in the description all


1:53

right let's dive in all right so of


1:56

course I've got the uh Dario chromes on


2:00

here are flat wounds right now and uh


2:04

this is the lightest set they make


2:06

because I do not like heavy gauge


2:07

strings at all and so the lightest flat


2:10

wounds that Dario makes are uh are 10


2:14

through 48 and it starts with a 10 then


2:16

a 14 then the G string is a 20 wound


2:20

then it goes 28 38 48 and uh again these


2:25

are flat wound or you know tape wound or


2:28

whatever you want to call it


2:30

one of the really funny things


2:33

about flat wound strings is that


2:36

everyone has this misconception that you


2:39

know everything you know from the ' 50s


2:41

came with flat wounds on it and that's


2:43

really not true um it's not completely


2:48

conclusive but it's pretty conclusive


2:49

that Fender you know used uh round wound


2:53

strings from VC Squire I mean I we


2:56

haven't been able to find any uh


2:58

evidence otherwise but it looks like


3:00

they used 12 through 53 with a wound


3:03

third and they were round wound of


3:05

course they were pure nickel with a


3:06

round core but they were not flat wound


3:10

and so but it's just funny how that you


3:16

know that kind of that myth keeps


3:19

getting perpetuated where you know old


3:21

guitars had flat wounds on them well no


3:23

they had pure nickel strings on them


3:26

that you know according to you know


3:28

Dario's uh you know tone chart are


3:31

actually pretty close to each other


3:32

they're right next to each other so it


3:34

would make sense that uh you know there


3:38

would be that comparison but it's it's


3:39

really not the case so I put these flat


3:43

LS on here and the first thing off the


3:46

off the bat is I pretty much hate them


3:50

uh reason being is that one it has a


3:52

wound


3:53

third uh which I think is just terrible


3:57

you know so if you're like me and you


3:58

like to do chicken picking country bends


4:00

well a wound third is your enemy and


4:04

this one it's like the most you're going


4:06

to get is about a half you know u a half


4:09

tone


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[Music]


4:13

Bend oh and today just as a a side note


4:17

I'm using my little uh my Little King by


4:20

headstrong amp and I have the Reverb


4:22

turn all the way off and I have no


4:24

effects at all no no compression no


4:27

anything and the reason I'm doing that


4:29

is just so you can he as much as


4:30

possible the guitar and the strings and


4:32

what they're doing and not any other


4:34

kind of overtones because you know if


4:36

you have Reverb on or Reverb if you


4:38

prefer uh you're really going to hear


4:41

other artifacts going on and I don't


4:42

want you to hear that so you know this


4:45

again is the you know Telly uh straight


4:48

into a headstrong little King amp and uh


4:51

you know with these uh flat wounds you


4:53

get this kind of sound


4:57

[Music]


5:00

the


5:04

[Music]


5:41

[Music]


5:48

so they're super stiff very very stiff


5:53

strings immediately my guitar had more


5:55

relief on it and you know they are


5:59

heavier but also they're you know not a


6:01

lot heavier but they're they're just


6:05

stiffer and uh you know you can


6:07

absolutely the guitar has more relief


6:10

here and you know I wasn't going to


6:11

adjust it just for these


6:13

strings also you know besides the


6:15

bending thing I mean it really really


6:17

makes you play differently the positive


6:20

thing about these strings is because of


6:22

their stiffness there's a bounce that


6:24

you get with your pick that where when


6:26

you hit the string it really gives you


6:29

fight back and so the the pick kind of


6:31

bounces off the string and so I keep


6:34

playing some of these kind of Luther


6:36

Perkins Johnny Cash things and I don't


6:39

know whether Luther Perkins used uh flat


6:42

wounds or not I mean it it's not likely


6:46

but it's possible uh he probably used


6:48

pure nickel and you know whatever came


6:50

on the guitar which would be 12 through


6:52

53 uh but there's something about the


6:55

bounciness of these strings also these


6:59

strings don't have a lot of other


7:01

artifacts going on you hear just mainly


7:04

the fundamental


7:08

[Music]


7:11

note it's very in yourr face it's very


7:15

clear there's not again there's not


7:17

these other harmonic stuff going on that


7:19

you would get especially with like


7:21

nickel-plated steel like modern guitar


7:23

strings where you'd have all this other


7:25

kind of brassiness or other harmonic


7:27

Airy stuff going on these are just just


7:29

kind of like here's the note here's the


7:31

note here's the note and uh you know


7:35

I've said this before you know I I have


7:37

friends like JD Simo that really like


7:40

you know pure nickel or flat WS because


7:43

he says they sound like records because


7:44

they don't have all that other stuff


7:46

going on it just sounds like the note


7:48

that it's supposed to sound like so uh


7:51

yeah so there is a neat aspect to these


7:53

strings to these you know to these Flats


7:56

uh


7:58

[Music]


8:25

if you can't tell I'm you know


8:27

struggling a bit on these strings just


8:28

again because of the uh the


8:32

feel yeah the the stiffness of them they


8:36

are of course super


8:38

slick you know I mean


8:42

it's you and you certainly can't do pick


8:44

slides on it you know if you're wan to


8:46

do your Van Halen thing um but yeah


8:49

they're they're really really cool


8:51

strings and they certainly would make


8:52

you play differently and again they have


8:55

that very fundamental sound you know


8:59

that


9:01

that's


9:05

just that just you know kind of says you


9:08

know old school and uh and that's again


9:11

why people will say a lot that uh you


9:14

know these these strings are uh you know


9:17

that that's what was on you know all the


9:20

old guitars in the 50s because you know


9:22

a lot of old recordings kind of have


9:23

that sound so but we're going to get the


9:26

pure nickels out and you're going to


9:27

hear that they kind of do a very similar


9:30

thing and then of course we're also


9:31

going to hear the uh half round or


9:34

ground wound so all right


9:40

next all right guys and our next stop on


9:43

the Mellow train express are pure nickel


9:46

strings so of course this is kind of the


9:50

original you know kind of vintage guitar


9:53

string that you know most guitars came


9:56

with of course there might be some


9:57

exceptions where they came with flat


9:59

round I think maybe certain Gibsons were


10:01

but you know originally you know guitar


10:04

strings were were you know plain Steel


10:06

on the high e and B strings and the rest


10:09

were a round steel core then with pure


10:13

nickel


10:14

windings now starting with the early 70s


10:19

or actually in the 60s people started


10:22

using uh hex core like darkode Dario


10:25

kind of you know pushed that and then


10:28

you started getting uh nickel plated


10:30

steel which has more output and it has


10:33

more other stuff going on um artifacts


10:38

harmonics whatever you want to call it


10:40

so this is Dario's uh pure nickel which


10:43

is on a hex core and of course it has


10:46

pure nickel windings around the hex core


10:50

and then of course the plain strings are


10:52

the same you know the 10 13 17 this is a


10:54

set of tens and uh yeah so and again


10:58

this is on Dario's you know kind of tone


11:01

train you know we started off with the


11:03

mellowest which was the flat wounds and


11:05

so this is the next stop so this is the


11:08

pure nickel which you still have


11:11

actually what I would think a very


11:13

similar tone you know you know that you


11:17

know on the back


11:23

pck because it it still is very


11:26

fundamental it's very kind of in your


11:28

face the


11:34

[Music]


12:00

uh you know even going to the you know


12:02

neck


12:02

[Music]


12:21

pickup


12:23

so these strings are much more


12:25

comfortable for me to play on even


12:27

though they're tins which I'm fine with


12:28

ens uh but they you know they have a


12:31

similar tension to other strings uh


12:34

they're not so stiff you don't have the


12:38

uh the feel thing you cuz obviously as


12:42

you slide up and down the fretboard you


12:45

get more


12:46

noise but tonally you still have that


12:49

real fundamental kind of sound


12:53

[Music]


12:59

that


13:05

[Music]


13:30

and it still has snap on the bottom but


13:32

not


13:33

the not the amount of snap that you


13:35

would get with nickel-plated steel so


13:38

this is kind of you know your uh your


13:40

really great middle ground and really


13:43

this is making me seriously think about


13:45

you know pure nickel strings so cuz they


13:48

are you know they feel really good they


13:51

have a good


13:52

tension um they're a gigantic


13:56

improvement over the flat loundes for me


13:59

I know a lot of you guys you know do


14:00

like flat bounds but yeah but I really


14:03

like these strings and I like the way


14:05

they sound and I like the evenness of


14:07

them you


14:08

[Music]


14:16

know yeah I think they just kind of


14:18

sound more in tune somehow and more


14:22

together main maybe it's because it


14:23

doesn't have all the other artifacts


14:25

going on so yeah so there you have it


14:28

there are the


14:29

pure nickel strings so now we just have


14:33

one more stop on the Mellow train it's


14:36

the half round or ground


14:40

wound yeah you be the


14:42

judge all right guys so here we go this


14:45

is the last stop on the Mellow train


14:48

this is the uh the brightest of the


14:50

Mellow strings as far as what didario


14:53

says these are the ground wound strings


14:57

or they're also called a half round um


15:00

they go by a couple different names but


15:02

evidently uh didario developed these you


15:05

know decades ago as a uh yeah as kind of


15:09

an in between uh round wound and flat


15:13

wound and so the construction on it is


15:17

very interesting uh because you know


15:21

like a regular wound string you've got a


15:24

steel


15:25

core and the windings are are done like


15:30

normal except they're steel with no


15:33

nickel plating so it's not pure nickel


15:36

it's not nickel plated steel it's just


15:40

steel and the steel is wrapped around


15:43

and let's say you want to end up with a


15:44

46 low EAS string they might start with


15:47

a a 50 or 48 or something like that and


15:50

then they grind it down so think about


15:54

all these round you know kind of you


15:58

know winding


15:59

that go around and then they're they're


16:01

they're you know they're basically


16:03

ground down to where they're even to


16:04

where they're flat so you end up with


16:07

something that has you know Bridge


16:09

pickup all the way


16:11

up pretty you know much smoother than


16:15

round wound uh but but you can still


16:20

get you can still get a little bit of


16:22

pick scrape if you really you know kind


16:24

of dig your pick into it so yeah so this


16:28

is really a in between you know set as


16:32

far as um you know the the feel they do


16:36

not feel stiff they they feel much


16:39

better than flat wounds I mean again you


16:42

can see that I have kind of a bias


16:44

against flat wounds not that there


16:46

wouldn't be a situation where that was


16:47

the right string to put on a guitar but


16:50

on a Telecaster for sure um maybe a


16:53

Bigby Telly or something would be a good


16:55

choice but uh yeah I'm definitely going


16:57

to go with round wound being it nickel


17:00

plated or or or pure nickel but these


17:04

strings really have a thing to them


17:08

and it's the tonal aspect it's like they


17:11

don't you know they feel smooth they


17:14

feel they Bend well you know you don't


17:16

have the high tension thing going on


17:18

like the flatwound


17:20

strings but they have an interesting


17:23

tone because think about it if you have


17:27

nickel-plated Steel


17:30

um you know round W strings they have


17:33

more highend and more output than pure


17:36

nickel strings well these strings are


17:39

just steel there is no nickel used in


17:42

these strings at all these half rounds


17:46

so you get more output even though


17:49

they've been smoothed down you have more


17:51

output and also it tends to be more


17:53

output in a certain frequency range in


17:56

this kind of low mid thing and I you


17:59

know again to kind of play a similar


18:00

thing that I played uh with the pure


18:03

nickel set you know you have this kind


18:11

of I mean it's it's


18:13

really you know


18:18

[Music]


18:48

so there are some qualities about these


18:50

strings I really like I like that I mean


18:53

they just have a lot of lowend thump to


18:58

them


18:59

they don't have you know quite the pop


19:01

and tanginess of you know some other


19:03

strings but they definitely have you


19:06

know of course more pop and such than


19:08

than flat wounds but you


19:12

know you know they still kind of have


19:14

that kind of uh


19:16

again uh I I guess it's because of the


19:19

the grinding process they don't have as


19:21

much of the brassy artifacts and other


19:24

things going on so this is a a really


19:27

cool set and it's it's fun also with


19:30

this set because of how smooth the


19:31

strings are and how you know


19:34

[Music]


19:42

uh you know you can do uh slides on the


19:46

low string uh and they're and they're


19:48

very smooth I mean you don't I mean you


19:50

just you know


19:56

[Music]


20:01

yeah so now here's one of the things I


20:05

want to I want to make sure that you


20:07

guys understand and that's that


20:09

basically the high strings on all these


20:11

sets are basically the same except for


20:14

the the you know on the on the flat


20:16

wound set you had a wound third that was


20:19

flat wound and also it used like a 14


20:22

instead of a 13 for a b string but on


20:26

pretty but on the nickel on the p nickel


20:29

and this set the half round they're


20:31

identical Unwound strings and so you're


20:35

getting all this difference is coming


20:38

just from the low strings and so it's


20:40

it's really interesting how much cuz


20:43

really I mean when you think about it


20:44

there's not much you can do with these


20:46

plain strings so when you're making up


20:49

sets you know as far as not talking


20:52

about changing the gauge but it's like


20:54

the wound strings are where really you


20:56

get the difference between you know all


20:59

these different sets so and really you


21:01

just have to find which one uh you know


21:03

works for you I'll have to say of all of


21:06

these I really like the pure nickel a


21:09

lot and uh I really enjoy these these


21:12

half rounds a lot of course uh no


21:15

offense but I'm I'm not a big uh flat


21:18

guy or chromes as they they call them


21:21

but uh yeah so now probably what you're


21:26

thinking right now is like Why didn't


21:28

have you know edit together a clip of


21:32

all three of them you know all playing


21:34

on all three string sets you know


21:36

together well that's what we're going to


21:38

do now so since you made it all the way


21:40

to the end you get to see a clip where I


21:43

play the flat rounds first the pure


21:46

nickel second and these half rounds last


21:51

so here we're going to end with with the


21:54

clips so I'm going to go ahead and say


21:56

goodbye and thank you for watching and I


21:58

hope you enjoy the clips bye-bye

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