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Deluxe Reverb VS Harvard + Viewer Mailbag for April - ASK ZAC EP 22

Apr 13, 202318 minEp. 22
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After my amp videos on the Deluxe Reverb and the Fender Harvard, I had a number of requests for a head-to-head comparison of them. I also answer questions about brass vs steel saddles on Telecasters, good Tele-type guitars at a reasonable price, under $3,000 option for a bender equipped guitar, and why Leo gave the Tele a square neck heel, and the Strat a rounded one.

GEAR USED:
2019 Danocaster Blackguard (1953 Telecaster Style) with Ron Ellis 52T (Bridge) and Julian Lage (Neck)
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Strings: Ernie Ball 10,13,16, 24, 32, 42. Made from singles I had. Nickel-Plated Steel. A non-pure nickel variation of the Rock-N-Roll set. 

1965 Deluxe Reverb amp with Celestion V30 speaker
1959 Harvard with Jensen P10R

Axcess Electronics BS2 Buffer with isolation transformer (to deal with ground loop)
Live Wire (Guitar Center In-House Brand) ABY Switch (Copy of the Morley ABY)  https://amzn.to/3b4fZXi #askzac #guitartech #telecaster

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Transcript

oh hello friends and welcome to another
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Ask Zac this is our April viewer
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mailbag episode where I answer your
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questions so first off I want to say a
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big thanks to Keith Williams with five
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watt world Keith has not only been a dear
0:40
friend to me especially in the last
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couple months of you know of less
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contact with people and have enjoyed
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phone conversations with him we've been
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able to kind of influence each other and
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he's kind of mentored me going from
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doing like the interviews with the true
0:57
tone lounge to doing kind of my own page
0:59
and in Keith's jazz master episode he
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gave me a big you know big kind of shout
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out a big plug so I want to thank Keith
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just for that and for his friendship and
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his help because I've learned a lot from
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him and he has a great page and most of
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you probably already aware of him but if
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you're not go check it out any of his
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episodes are great he tends to have
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episodes that are short histories or
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these more philosophical ones about how
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many guitars is enough and you know what
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do I need and things like that and I
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enjoy you know both both types of
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episodes but you need to go and check
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him out so back to answering questions
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actually one more correction and this is
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in the the nickel the pure nickel
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strings episode I kind of got
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extemporaneous and and started talking
1:58
about Battle Creek Michigan and then
2:01
maybe that ghs was making fender strings
2:03
at some point no that's not true there
2:06
were actually two factories in in Battle
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Creek and one was GHS and the
2:13
one was VC Squier and I knew about VC
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Squier and so I wish that I would have
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double-checked that first but anyway but
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Here I am correcting that so VC Squier
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supplied Fender with string starting in
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the 50s and then they were bought by
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Fender in the 60s and then they were
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final and they made all of fender
2:37
strings up until 1981 and that's when
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the factory in Battle Creek was
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shuttered in 1981 then of course they
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owned the Squire name and again note the
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spelling squ
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I E R which is not of course the spelling
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if you were having a knight and a squire
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and but because they owned that already
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that's why they used that for the squire
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line so that way they didn't have to buy
3:02
another trademark so they had Squire all
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right on to the questions so this is by
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Aaron booth and he asked on the maple
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cap Telecaster episode he said what made
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you choose steel saddles versus brass
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well of course that 67 tele originally
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had steel saddles it had the threaded
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ones on it and I really liked the sound
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of it and I tried brass on there and the
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brass really darkened it and kind of
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took away the liveliness and so I ended
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up I wanted compensated saddles and so I
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ended up going with C&J tooling saddles
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which unfortunately are not made anymore
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because the the owner of the company
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passed away but there are all parts tons
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of companies make you know steel and
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brass compensated saddles the one thing
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I would say if you are going for that
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old steel saddle sound try to find a
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lighter set of steel because that was
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kind of my battle when I was working on
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my 67 tele was going from those original
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threaded saddles and they were
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lightweight they weighed next to nothing
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and then a lot of the replacements were
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very heavy steel and they changed the
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tone of the guitar and I didn't like the
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change
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and so it took me a while to find some
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really light steel and the cmj tooling
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did that yeah
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brass tends to be darker and more
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compressed and less lively sounding and
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it just depends on the guitar so I will
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use brass or steel sometimes I'll throw
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on a set of brass
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you know onto a guitar and see if I like
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it or not
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I think Leo kind of got it right in the
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beginning with you know using the brass
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saddles with the flat pole bridge and I
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think you know the staggered pole with
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the steel saddles is a really good
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combination but you can mix and match
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into whatever you want alright any this
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is from Michael flowers and it says any
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guidance on acquiring an inexpensive
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tele Fender or not that gets that spanky
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tone well I really like as far as I mean
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one you just got to go and play a bunch
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of guitars the best thing you can do is
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find a place it has a bunch of guitars
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and and play a bunch of them you know
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you could find a good you know
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inexpensive you know Indonesian squire
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that that has a good sound to it as far
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as just a kind of general purpose you
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know not overly expensive guitar that i
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found that has a good traditional kind
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of vintage Telecaster type sound or this
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Spanky
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as Michael refers to I would say the old
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Road worn series that they just stopped
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it recently but those road warns that
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were made in Mexico the the kind of
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blackguard or white guard version they
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started those in 2009 and they just
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stopped production on them last year
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there's tons of them out there some of
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them are kind of climbing in price but a
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lot of them you can still find in 600
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range and those are great guitars the
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most you'd need to do to those is maybe
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change the pickups out maybe change the
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pots but they're they're great guitars
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here's another one this is by Cass Zach
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can I ask an unrelated question Keith
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Williams from five watt world tells me
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you're the one to ask why do strats
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until he's have slightly different neck
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pockets from what I can gather of Leo
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that's not what I would have expected
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well that's a great question you're
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talking about the the heel of the neck
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how on a Telecaster or Esquire or
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whatever it's squared off and then on
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most other Fender instruments it's it's
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curved so I'm still in the process of
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doing research on this but I talked to
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nacho who of course wrote the blackguard
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book and he's one of the foremost
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experts on early fender stuff he said
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that he felt like Bill Carson had an
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influence on that in that you know
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making the room going from the
7:20
Telecaster to the strat that there was a
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lot of push by him to make things have
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more curve to it such as the contoured
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body the more contoured headstock the
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tummy cut the forearm cut the double
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cutaway not saying that Bill Carson did
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that but there was a lot of his
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influence and again it's like somebody
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saying hey mom I'd like a chocolate cake
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well Bill Carson didn't you know didn't
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create those things leo fender and
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Freddie Tavares are sorry I'm
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pronouncing his name wrong and those
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guys are the ones that actually you know
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did the handiwork and made it but Bill
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Carson was definitely influential as far
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as a taste tester and you know somebody
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asking you know for four features on
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guitars so I'm still trying to find out
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more information on that but that's what
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the answer is at this point this is from
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Tim do Bravo and he says that he wants a
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be vendor tele but doesn't want to drop
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three grand or more on lon
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yeah you do not have to you know spend
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three grand on a Telecaster by any means
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as I mentioned before you know those
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rode Warren Telly's are great you know
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you can find those used and then it cost
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about $500 to have Abbey
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put on there are a ton of guys I'm gonna
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have to say my favorite is the Glaser
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type and Joe Glaser has just you know
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kind of retooled his bender and made it
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where he can install it even you know in
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less time than ever before he can do it
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in like three or four days and I don't
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think anyone else has that short of a
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install time so you know of course
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there's guys doing Parsons white vendors
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and other types of you know vendors but
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I would recommend Joe Glaser yeah so I
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think if you got a road warren and had a
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bender put on it you'd probably have you
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know $1500 or less in the guitar next
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people you know some guys will van Han
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Solo my friend and who I can have
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publicly congratulate and congratulate
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here because he's been if you're not
9:37
familiar with Tom Tukovac Tom Bukovac
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of course is a famous Nashville session
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guitar player and he has his own YouTube
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channel now and he's been posting stuff
9:45
every day and if you haven't seen it you
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need to check it out anyway he had a
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contest and will van Hong Solo made it
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to round two so let's hope that he he
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wins at all but will ask to hear the
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Daniel Castro guitar which I have right
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here into the Harvard and also had the
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people wanted to hear the Harvard versus
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the deluxe reverb alright so now to do
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this so I have an a/b switch so I can
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switch between seamlessly between the
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deluxe and the Harvard I will have to
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add that I had to put in a isolation
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transformer on one of the amps to keep
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it from from buzzing because whenever
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you connect two amplifiers to each other
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they just tend to start making noise and
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I like to have a pretty low noise floor
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you know so I have a Mario at access
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electronics made me this really nice box
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many years ago when I was working for
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Brad Paisley and
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a single input and then it has two
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isolation transformers for two the
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outputs and then it has a straight out
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and so that can I did that because I
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needed that when recording multiple amps
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at the same time with with Brad Paisley
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so I'm using just a good ol ad box and
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yeah and so I'm gonna go switch between
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the two and I'm just gonna let I'm gonna
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start with the harvard and every time i
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click which you'll be able to hear this
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foot switch you know click you'll hear
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as i go back and forth and you'll know
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when it's the deluxe because i chose to
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leave the the reverb on because that's
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part of the amp sound so yeah so the dry
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sound is the harvard and the sound with
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with the touch of a verb is the is the
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deluxe and and again just so you know
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i'm starting with the harvard and every
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time i click I'm switching to the other
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amp and here we go i'm course got my
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handy dandy danocastor and yeah
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medium pick using their rounded in
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starting on the neck pickup here's the
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harvard let's see
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[Music]
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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of course that ended on the on the
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deluxe reverb go to the back pickup
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[Music]
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so there you have you know kind of the
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the difference between the the deluxe
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and the and the Harvard I think you can
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hear that obviously the mid-range is
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very different on the two you know the
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the tweed has a little more you know
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kind of compression again I'm not using
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any effects at all you know you have a
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five tube amp with a ten inch speaker
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and you have a nine tube amp you know
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what the 12-inch speaker in a bigger cab
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so I mean part of the difference you're
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hearing is speakers and cabs but you
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know this has a very very simple circuit
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and this has a more complex circuit and
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this tends to have a little less
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mid-range this has more mid-range
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they're both great sounds again the
15:10
deluxe is a little bit you know is my
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favorite but the Harvard is a close
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second and they're my my favorite guitar
15:18
amps so there was one other question and
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it was oh also the Harvard compared to a
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tweed deluxe so I don't you know of
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course right now is not a great time to
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try to borrow an amp from a friend but a
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friend of mine had a 59 tweed deluxe and
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we did a head-to-head between the
15:45
Harvard and the tweed deluxe and the
15:48
Harvard had more clean Headroom now but
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the deluxe got louder but it got
15:54
distorted faster also the deluxe had
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more compression to it and it was a
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little softer sounding a little squishy
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ER and the the Harvard had firmer lows
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to it so in the end I prefer a Harvard
16:09
over a tweed deluxe but you know it
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depends on what kind of guitar you play
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and what kind of style you're into and
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things like that all right well that's
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it you know for today I hope you enjoyed
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the little the Harvard and deluxe reverb
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shootout answered some questions keep
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the questions coming also note that I am
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be watching out because I am getting my
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website ask Zack dot-com I am
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in the process of revamping that and
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will hopefully be launching this soon so
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thanks a lot hope you have gone down in
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the corner and subscribed I hope you'll
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comment and I'll see you next time
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Thanks bye bye

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