Bernie Leadon - Eagle on a B-Bender - Ask Zac 140

welcome to Ask Zac today we are going
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to talk about Bernie leddon
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so the reason why
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is that I was at the Country Music Hall
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of Fame a couple weeks ago with my
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family I took them because I wanted to
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see there was a new exhibit called
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Western Edge so this goes back a little
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bit further and then I went to see the
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final show by the desert rose band with
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Chris Hillman and John Jorgensen and
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those amazing group of players
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and then after that I really wanted to
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see the the exhibit that uh that brought
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about this concert and everything and it
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was all about California country rock
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so I went there and I was amazed to see
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things like the Flying Burrito Brothers
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outfits there the ones from the first
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album that that Graham like you know
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that that one's been on display but now
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you had Hillman and uh and Sneaky Pete's
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you know or Chris Chris Etheridge you
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had three other outfits so I guess they
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were missing one but they had three of
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them
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and then I saw it I saw the guitar so
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they had Bernie Legends B Bender telly
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so the one on Peaceful Easy Feeling and
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Tequila Sunrise and all those all those
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great tunes by The Eagles that feature a
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b bender and
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frankly the
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I mean
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when you talk about a b bender and
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you're talking to the average person you
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know you might have a hard time saying
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oh yeah it's like on this tune well it's
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really easy to mention Peaceful Easy
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feeling well it's a guitar sound that
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you hear on the Eagles Peaceful Easy
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Feeling everyone has heard that song
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you know it's the you know it's on the
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Eagles Greatest Hits album which at
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times is the greatest selling album of
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all time so
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yeah so I decided to do an episode about
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burning we're going to talk about that
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guitar and uh talk about his influence
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outside of the Eagles and and things
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that I love him and his playing for you
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know outside of the Eagles because he
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did a lot of cool work with some of his
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old California country rock buddies
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Through The Years so yeah
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all right so Bernie leddon uh well born
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up in Minnesota he ended up down in
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Gainesville Florida
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which of course for some reason
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Gainesville is kind of a hotbed of of
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music and uh beside I mean you could
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list off a number of people but just the
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easy ones would be Don Felder who ended
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up also being an eagle and then Tom
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Petty that was you know of course
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younger and lived down the street
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so uh
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you know Bernie kind of went back and
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forth and uh he he had worked some with
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Chris Hillman in the Scottsville
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squirrel barkers oh my goodness what
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what kind of name is that it's not as
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bad as like Strawberry Alarm Clock or
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the 13th floor elevators but that's
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quite a name there
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uh and then he ended up going back out
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to California to play with hearts and
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flowers
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what like most bands hearts and flowers
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falls apart well then he ends up joining
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uh Dillard and Clark
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so which of course was one of the
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Dillards and Gene Clark from the birds
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the main vocalist and they end up you
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know riding some tunes and it was Bernie
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kind of writing some instrumentals and
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such and they cut a record and then the
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band falls apart
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of course
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and then he runs into Chris Hillman who
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his band is already falling apart the
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Flying Burrito Brothers and
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you know Graham is already trying to
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hang out with the Rolling Stones all the
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time and it's starting to you know do
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some uh substances and such and uh and
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so he ends up asking Bernie to join and
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and so
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Bernie joins the Flying Burrito Brothers
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and of course it's a short-lived Graham
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ends up leaving Rick Roberts comes in
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and they kind of become more of a
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smooth easy listening kind of version of
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California country rock and Bernie
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leaves and he's been
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kind of playing off and on on the side
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with Linda Ronstadt who's a friend of
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his and through that Association of
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course you know again you have to
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remember that this is a small you know
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pool of guys that are playing this style
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of music so he's running into Randy
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Meisner he knows Don Henley and Glenn
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Frey and Don and Glenn and Randy have
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already you know they're putting a band
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together and they're looking for the
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fourth guy and they asked Bernie and so
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Bernie's the last one to join of the
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original four equals
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and it's pretty Apparent from interviews
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and just from the way they acted that
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they wanted to do everything right with
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the Eagles that those guys
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all four of them had experienced success
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and failure and being taken advantage of
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and they all wanted to do things the
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right way and you know Don had been in
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Shiloh that fell apart
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Glenn had been in Long Branch Penny
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Whistle you know of course Randy had
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been in poco and then left after the
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album was was cut
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and also of course we've been with Rick
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Nelson
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and uh yeah I think they they all wanted
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to learn from their mistakes or the
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mistakes that they observed and kind of
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create the uh the perfect California
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country rock band
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and uh I think you know they as as close
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as you could I think they they did it
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with the Eagles and uh Bernie was a huge
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you know contributor to their sound I
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mean you have to remember that on the
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first two albums it's four guys
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and that first album you know right out
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of the right out of the box they had
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hits they had hits with Witchy Woman
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which Bernie had co-written and it's
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more of a rock tune so that's that goes
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against all the guys that say Bernie
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didn't want to rock well he co-wrote
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Witchy Woman and played guitar on it and
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then you have take it easy which
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features fantastic you know intro and
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solo on on a Telecaster by Bernie and
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then he also plays this fantastic banjo
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part that's later on in the tune that
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really kind of gives it a lift
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um yeah then you have Peaceful Easy
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Feeling
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which is just a a beautiful you know
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tune that is still being played by Bar
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bands you know every second of every day
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somewhere in the world and that features
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some really really gorgeous B Bender
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work and uh of course I played the
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second half of the solo the first half
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is uh is really some really sweet Bender
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work with some kind of melodic work
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overdubbed over top of it but uh
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the second half of course is a little
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more exciting because he goes to the
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bridge pickup and starts twanging out a
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little bit more so
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and that has to be the biggest hit that
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features a b bender on it you know
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heavily
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so yeah so he uh you know you have the
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banjo you have the acoustic guitar work
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you have his knowledge of Bluegrass and
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folk and and Harmony
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and uh yeah and he was and he was riding
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and that band was was was really great
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and I don't think it's fair to really
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call him the lead guitarist per se
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because Glenn was also a really great
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guitar player they're both lead guitar
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players uh Glenn you know of course
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you'd hear him on things like already
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gone or better yet you know you have the
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Timothy B Schmidt hit later on in the
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70s with I Can't Tell You Why That's all
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Glenn Frey you know playing you know the
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all the fills and the solo on it that
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that shows you what a what a great
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arranger songwriter guitar player Glenn
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Frey was so you know they were they were
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definitely some of their parts and they
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just sounded insanely good when they
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harmonize together and uh and they
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created an amazing first album and then
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they followed it up with a concept album
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that was kind of a dud it did end up
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producing you know Tequila sunrises a
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minor hit and then Desperado there'd be
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a hit later and a fan favorite and yeah
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but it wasn't until you know on the
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border that they really started hitting
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their stride again and that's also when
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you start seeing Don Felder guesting and
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then he joins the band after that and
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then they make the one of these Knights
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album which of course
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that's when Bernie starts getting more
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frustrated with the band and I think it
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I think it's again an oversimplification
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to say he didn't like the direction the
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band was going musically and maybe he
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didn't but I think the the band uh it's
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obvious that they it was such a high
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pressure situation and I think they were
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you know Don and Glenn were really
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wanting to go in more of a Arena you
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know kind of atmosphere and I don't know
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that Bernie wanted to do that and I
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think the toll of it got to him
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and then it got to Randy and then it got
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to Don and Glenn you know because the
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band you know exploded uh
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or imploded whichever whichever you
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prefer by by 1980 and they were they
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were done so it took a long time for
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them to get get back together again
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so when uh when Bernie left the Eagles
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he uh you know he continued to be
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involved in projects and I love you know
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some of his you know guest work so I
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remember the first time I heard this
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album so this is uh you know Emmylou
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Harris's pieces of the sky and this is a
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fabulous album of course this was her
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first album for Warner reprise and uh
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you know Bernie is all over this thing
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singing Harmony and playing acoustic and
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he plays fantastic dobro on bottle let
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me down along with James Burton playing
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of course uh telecaster and uh you know
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really really great great stuff also
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emmylou's next album which is Elite
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Hotel features Bernie playing a
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beautiful acoustic guitar solo on the
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tune sweet dreams and it's an overdub so
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they uh they had recorded the song live
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with the hot band and then they decided
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to overdub an acoustic guitar solo over
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uh it's actually overhang DeVito's steel
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solo which I guess they feel didn't have
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enough
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um movement to it so they they had
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Bernie play this solo that kind of fills
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in the gaps in Hank solo so I guess to
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be really fair it's Hank DeVito and
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Bernie Ludden soloing at the at the same
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time you know kind of trading off
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and yeah so Bernie you know of course
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did a did a solo record or a Duo record
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and uh and then he really didn't see
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much from him and he started working
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some with Chris Hillman you get the ever
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call ready album which of course I
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talked about that in the desert rose
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band episode that was
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Chris Hillman and Bernie and Al Perkins
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and some others doing kind of a gospel
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bluegrass album
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and because Bernie was playing in Chris
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Hillman's band at the time and so Bernie
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left Chris Hillman's band to join the
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nitty-gritty Dirt Band and that left an
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opening and that's where John Jorgensen
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comes in but Bernie went to the Nitty
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Gritty Dirt Band
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and uh during when the the Dirt Band was
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having quite a bit of chart success with
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things like fishing in the dark and
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other Tunes hold on and so Bernie was in
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the band for a short time and there's
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funny footage of uh of that era Nitty
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Gritty Dirt Band or Dirt Band I should
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say that's what they're being called at
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that point on Nashville now hosted by
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Ralph Emery and of course Ralph Emery as
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much as I love him he was also really
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good at putting his foot in his mouth
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and so
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you know they're he's kind of
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interviewing the guys in the Dirt Band
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and then he just asks you know he didn't
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his question to Bernie is when are the
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Eagles going to get back together and
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it's just like really I've just joined
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this band and we're having success and
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you're going to ask about a group that I
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quit 10 years ago and have nothing to do
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with except for you know probably
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getting mailbox money from him but uh
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anyway it was funny and so then you know
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kind of continued to see Bernie uh
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guesting and even doing some producing
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like with Restless Heart and playing on
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sessions and so you you know if you if
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you look up Bernie's you know kind of
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discogs or all music you'll see that he
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played on a fair amount of sessions here
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in Nashville on a variety of country and
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kind of Bluegrass and country rock type
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projects
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well then he kind of had a fun little
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era where he did a kind of a
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a fun project where he he had some
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friends of his and they did a band
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called run C and W which was where they
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did
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Bluegrass versions of Motown tunes and
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again this was the early 90s and they
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wore kind of uh
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I don't know I mean it looked like
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sometimes they were wearing workout
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clothes and sunglasses and stuff they
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looked they looked pretty crazy but uh
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anyway they were fantastic and Bernie
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got to play a lot of banjo
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and uh yeah I didn't didn't see a whole
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lot of Bernie for a little while after
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that I think he worked at a label for a
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while and did a variety of other things
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then all of a sudden the the Eagles were
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inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of
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Fame and as part of it they had all the
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various members so they didn't just have
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the five that were part of the Hell
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Freezes Over tour they also had Randy
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Meisner and Bernie leddon of course both
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original members so they had all seven
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Eagles that were you know all alive at
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that point and they all performed
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together and they did take it easy and
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they did uh Hotel California which of
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course Bernie was not part of but uh
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yeah they did that then I while I was
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living in France in 99 or so I picked up
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an album it was Emmylou Harris and Linda
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ronstad together and uh
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and it was a beautiful you know Duets
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album and
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all over the record was Bernie leddon
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and then when I saw footage of them
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performing on television Bernie was in
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the band and he was playing this black
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Telly with a person's white bender and
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uh
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yeah beautiful stuff
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then you know fast forward a number of
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years I saw
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I saw Bernie play at a festival up in
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Canada so I was up there working and and
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this was in the middle of nowhere in
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Canada and Bernie showed up in his white
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Suburban with Tennessee plates on it
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unloaded his black face twin and his
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Telly and he had a couple other things
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and he and a fiddle player just you know
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performed you know as a Duo and they
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even did the the tune my man which was
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of course his
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tune that he dedicated to Graham Parsons
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that was back from the Eagles era
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so uh yeah didn't didn't see you know
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again you know he seemed to lay somewhat
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low and then lo and behold you know the
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Eagles did this uh history of the Eagles
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documentary
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and on it
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there's you know Bernie talking about
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his time in the band and they of course
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they talk about the whole you know
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pouring the beer on the head of Glenn
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Frey blah blah blah
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and but you can tell that uh Bernie you
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know didn't didn't feel good about it
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that that he was you know apologetic
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about it and so then not long after that
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it was announced that Bernie was going
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to be touring with the Eagles again and
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uh
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so that was that was really neat because
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that's kind of the last thing you ever
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thought was going to happen
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um you know because of course he had
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quit the band in 75 and uh so here it
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was you know 30 plus years later how
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many and uh there he is up there you
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know playing the B bender and uh and the
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banjo and singing harmonies and uh you
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know playing all those tunes and they'd
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even start off the show
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with uh you know Don and Glenn and then
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they'd bring Bernie out and and Bernie
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would sing a tune and they would do
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Peaceful Easy Feeling and and then they
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do Witchy Woman and then they would kind
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of strike things and then he would play
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with the uh you know with the full band
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with the you know of course the uh B3
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and all the percussion and backup
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instruments that are all part of the
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Eagles
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you know thing now
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so yeah some loved Bernie's playing you
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know through the years and he's
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contributed to a lot of records that I
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love and uh let's talk a little bit
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about his uh his gear
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so his b Bender Telly which again is on
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display at the Country Music Hall of
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Fame it was originally a 1966 telecaster
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and so here's a picture of it
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so that's of course he's got his big you
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know afro and he's playing it it's of
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course blonde or white with a rosewood
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fretboard so the guitar gets stripped of
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its finish and then Dave Evans puts a b
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Bender in the guitar so this is so
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Bernie ends up being you know one of the
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earliest users of the
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B vendor now
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yes there were guys in Nashville using
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you know another type of Bender back in
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the early 60s that had levers right here
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and it was usually installed on
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something with a stop tail piece like an
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es355 or 335 guys like Jerry Kennedy and
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Grady Martin who were A Team guys for
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sure
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but you know of course you have
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clearance you know the first guy with
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the Telecaster where you have the
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mechanism where the strap attaches to it
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so and then the second one would be Bob
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Warford where he and his dad actually
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created one and again this was uh
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outside of the body so part of the
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mechanism is in the body and then part
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of it's outside and then you would have
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to have this shell over the top and
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that's why on Clarence White's guitar
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that Marty Stewart plays why it's
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thicker it's because it's got a shell on
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top well even
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um Bob warford's Telly also has that
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same kind of shell but I think his is
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actually a little bit thinner well Dave
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Evans was the first one to put it inside
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the guitar and then have the big plate
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that just covers you know kind of an
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L-shaped plate or his is actually quite
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a bit bigger
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and many times he would put them in
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Butcher Block bodies and he would just
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sell these Butcher Block bodies that had
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the Bender already in it and you would
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put your own neck and pickups on it and
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so that's what oh Albert Lee had one
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like that I even had one for a while
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that I had and then I I gave it to a
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friend and then my friend ended up
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sending it off to Dave Evans more
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recently and Evans was able to start
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making them again for a while
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but uh with back to Bernie Bernie had
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the Evans pull string because he called
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it up pull string not a b Bender he had
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the pull string put in his 66 tele and
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so that's what you see him you know
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playing early on in the Eagles and so it
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has it still has the Rosewood board but
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it's missing the fender logo the Finish
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has been stripped and it's got a
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humbucker in the neck position and then
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it's got a Gibson style toggle switch
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effects at this time would have been
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minimal you can hear some phasing used
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on things like midnight flyer and such
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but not a lot of effects and amp wise
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they were small most the time he was
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playing a Princeton reverb on stage or a
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deluxe Reverb sometimes in the in the
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last era you know kind of the one of
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these nights kind of tour era
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you see him using a silver face vibrolux
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that has kind of a western Motif Grille
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on it Grill cloth
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uh and that's you know and if you use
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that tele you know of course he'd use
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some kind of Martin acoustic and an old
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Gibson mandolin and uh and a Les Paul
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Deluxe for playing the more of the
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rock-ish tunes and he got a a 53 tele
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toward the end of his time with the
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Eagles and he ended up switching the
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parts on the B Bender Telly so he took
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the 66 neck off and put a 53 neck on and
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he took as much as we could as much as
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he could off the 53 tele and stuck it on
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the 66 Telecaster body that had the
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Evans pull string
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that guitar ended up getting damaged
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later on and he ended up replacing it
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with a uh a kind of Parts guitar that
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was uh black with white binding and with
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a rosewood fretboard neck and with a
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Parsons white bender and that's the
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guitar that you see him play throughout
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the 90s and on the history the Eagles
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tour and footage of him with Linda
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Ronstadt and Emilio Harris in the late
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90s and such that's that's the guitar
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you see him with
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um
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when he went on the road or back out on
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the road with the Eagles I actually
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contacted one of the guitar techs with
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the Eagles and they were willing to
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relay to me what Bernie was using so
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they even sent me a pic picture of his
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pedal board so here it is all in its
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Glory so he you know I love it this is
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you know this is you know the Simplicity
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this is all he needed so again you see a
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compressor and you know CS3 compressor
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you see a you know Dan Electro Daddio
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you know Distortion and you see the uh
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the boss dd3 delay or maybe it's a dd5
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I'll have to recheck the picture and
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then an old you know original run TC
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chorus and you can even see it has his
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name scrawled into it all on a pedal
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train board
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so then amp wise uh looks like he had
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like an acoustic Sonic amp for acoustic
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and then he had either a a brown deluxe
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from the early 60s which is a course a
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great amp got mid-range bark to it or a
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lot of many times you would see him with
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a uh a reissue Tweed twin like a 50 watt
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Tweed twin and that's even what he plays
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at the Grammys right after uh after
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Glenn's passing and that Jackson Brown
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joined them and they did take it easy so
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yeah so that was kind of his his gear
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and such and I just think Bernie's such
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an important part of the early Eagles
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sound and both you know his his vocals
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his songwriting his instrumental prowess
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I mean the fact that he played pedal
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steel and dobro and mandolin and all
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sorts of stuff and he kind of he was one
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that really kind of pushed that where it
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was kind of like everyone had to kind of
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come to that and so that's why there was
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you know when when uh you know Don
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Felder when Joe Walsh joined the band
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they had to they had to play keyboards
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and banjo and you know pedal steel all
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sorts of stuff so yeah there you have it
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and so I'll have a uh a Bernie leddon uh
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you know kind of uh
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playlist that I'll put a
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there'll be a link down in the
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description all right
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now it's time for our ongoing series
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Zach's book time
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this is book I just recently read and
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and enjoyed
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it's called buddy emin's steel guitar
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Icon by Steve Fishel so Steve Fishel has
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been a wonderful writer but I mean
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what he's best known for is for playing
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a pedal steel guitar and Emilio Harris's
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hot band so he joined after Hank DeVito
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left in the early 80s and he played that
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wonderful weisenborn solo on the trio
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record on those memories of you still
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haunt me
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yeah that uh beautiful beautiful
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weisenborn intro and solo uh is uh Steve
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he also produced big hit records for uh
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Rodney Foster like just call me Lonesome
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that was uh Steve producing that he also
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produced hits for uh for Pam Tillis and
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other acts and he went back out on the
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road with Rodney crowl and Emmylou
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Harris when they they did a tour a
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couple years ago and Steve has also been
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a writer and so he's done interviews
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through the years and so if you have old
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guitar player magazines you've probably
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read some of his interviews and so some
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of he interviewed Ry Cooter and Wadi
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wattel and James Burton and Albert Lee
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and on and on because all these guys
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were his contemporaries people that he
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was working with and knew from being
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part of that scene and so more recently
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he well in the last decade or more he
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was spending time with Buddy Emmons and
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buddy had written down
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kind of his own Memoirs up to a point
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and buddy gave them to Steve and then
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Steve spent a lot of time with Buddy
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before he passed and also interviewed a
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ton of you know the old guard that
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really knew buddy well including you
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know Ray Price and Willie Nelson and on
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and on
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and this is a fantastic book It's a
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Wonderful you know biography of of Buddy
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Emmons that you know really tells his
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story and it's an amazing one I don't
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care whether you play or love pedal
27:54
steel or not this is a fantastic book
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it's well written really gives his kind
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of upbringing his musical history just
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some of his the problems that he had and
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how they kind of influenced his career
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also just how important he was in the
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development of the pedal steel guitar I
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mean he really developed the modern you
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know pedal setup the co-pendant or
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whatever you know the those phrases that
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pedal steel players use but you know if
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you play a pedal steel guitar well it's
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set up that way because that's what
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buddy developed and he is so important
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and his playing is so important so I
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highly recommend buddy emin's steel
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guitar Icon by Steve Fishel check it out
28:46
all right guys
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I hope you've enjoyed today's episode
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talking about Bernie laddin of course
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talking about Buddy Emmons and we'll see
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you next time bye-bye