This is the Art of wrestling with professional wrestler called Cabanda. Oh thank you, all right, thank you? Hi guys doing come on in, sit down, Relax, You're about to listen to the art of wrestling a professional wrestling podcast. It's a live podcast as a personal journal. It's an entry way into the minds that souls the hearts and lives of the people involved in the world of professional wrestling. I am your host. My name is Cold Cabanda. Hello, and I am not sitting here live from my studio in
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And then after this downstairs during the show, visit me at Coltmerch dot table where I will sell you my eight by tens and if you ask nicely and the prices right, I will sell my socks and or underwear just to get by. We're gonna have a bunch of guests here in a bit. I'm very excited to have a show. I do want to talk about being back here. This is very exciting. Every single month, every single year. It's an annual thing I do is come here to the National Wrestling Hall of
Fame. I love that you are here, and I try to explain it to everybody that there's this weird hidden gem in Iowa of great wrestling fans and a great wrestling crowd, and like all these stars of professional wrestling come out, and I still think it's like a beautiful hidden thing, and I think you are all to the right thing here, and thanks for coming. I
love the museums. Everybody get a chance to check out the museum. There's nothing like driving into Waterloo from Chicago, Illinois, getting to the Dan Gable Museum looking at dream Girls right next to it, and being like, which one should I go to? And for those of you at home listening, legendarily, there is this unbelievable past of professional and regular wrestling or what should we call it regular wrestling? I don't even know what to call real wrestling,
regular Greco Roman wrestling. There is just this beautiful like history just sitting in one building and then to the next building. Is just this legendary strip club that you know, like Dan Gables, just walking right over every single day. So I thought, like some is it called dream girls? Who would know? Flirts? Flirts? Legitimately, every man in this room just looked at me and said, flirts. It's flirts two for one on a
Thursday, it's flirts. Go there, listen. So if I'm flirts on this weekend, I if I'm a lady there, I'm kind of changing up my thing and I'm working the gimmick a little, I think, and I here's some names I came up for some dancers that I think should be at Flirts just this weekend specifically. You tell me if you if you like them. My first one, obviously was Thundercock Patterson I thought would be I thought would be a good one. Also, there's a lady over there dance dancing
is a less snatcher. It's a good one. You're welcome less j B l O W G O job all right, I was stretching on that one that's supposed blow job. If for no one got then okay, uh oh this is okay haw cooch. Oh you guys picked that up better than I thought you would. Baron, just Baron and of course, uh, probably the best stripper name that there would be sorry, uh, entertainment enhanced. I don't want to. I don't want to get canceled for calling someone a
stripper. Sorry, adult entertainer, adult entertainer. I think the best possible name would be rock Riddle, Rock Riddle. That's just me. Every year there always seems to be some some news that pops out of this and right when I got there, they're like, oh, fucking Brisco, what the fuck and uh so, uh just for everyone at home and everyone. Uh God, I'm like, I've men, I feel like melts are here. Breaking the news. Jerry Briscoe was sent to the hospital, but I've been
told that he's okay. I talked to JBL today jblow Job and and he was like, oh, he's fine. And then he was just like couldn't stop making jokes about Jerry Briscoe. And I was like, that's kind of morbid. He's like, ah, fuck him, Fuck Oklahoma. But those everyone seems to be in good spirits. That's the news. I don't know if anyone is Is there any other hot goss happening here at the show? Anyone heard anything good? No. Troy told me he was like, we
gotta get everything in one place. Troy, who helps run IPW and there's an IPW show. He's like, you know, we gotta get these people all in one place. It's just like we gotta get them to stop drinking. So apparently you all are a bunch of fucking alcoholics. Congratulations And then on a personal note, on a side note, I just walked in here and I saw Capitol City Kyle and Tim Larson, who did helped with a news letter, Tim, Great to see you. Tim did the Upper Midwest
News later letter and started in ninety nine, nineteen ninety eight. I started wrestling in ninety nine, and I was going well, I was going to Western Michigan University in nineteen eighty eight, and I remember going to the computer lab, which I don't even know if that's a thing anymore, right, and like looking up the information that Tim would put and then also Al gets is here who is now selling a book? And he would make this website called the or he had I think it was WU Wrestling, and he had
the WU Top fifty, which was like the top independent wrestlers. And just to bump into you guys, Al and Tim and Kyle all within this space like just brings back so many great memories of being a Midwest wrestler and being able to like travel the world. And I told Al, like how influential he was on me just to like see that list of fifty wrestlers and want
to be in it as an independent wrestler. And of course Tim's newsletter was so influential on all the Midwest wrestlers to like, I think better ourselves to get in that newsletter to get the praise. It was like the original Twitter and whatnot. So it really was like that's what Twitter was in nineteen ninety eight. So on that note, I love the all the people here and all the wrestling like family. And you know, I just newsletter turned Internet
turned whatever is next? I guess podcasting and who knows what's after that. So I appreciate all you and I love being here. Thanks for being here. This is amazing. And with that, I think it makes sense to bring up my first guests, and he's paving his own way here in the world of the internet. Please welcome to the stage, joining me Conrad THOMPSONID thanks for having me. Man, my first trip to Waterloo. This is a pretty cool place, man. Yeah, oh yeah, hey, hey,
it's Conrad Thompson. There it is, and we're here at the Art of Wrestling, the OG Wrestling Podcast. About that, I think, well, thank you very much, thanks for joining me. I appreciate and I did easily think this could just be like a backscratching you know, like you're great. I'm I'm great. No, I can't say that you're the real podfather. I mean, you've you've put me over so much, so we
don't need to, you know, to put overs over. It's just I'd love to talk about the wrestling with you, and um, I guess yeah, just right away as I was saying that, like I was saying that I had the wo Top fifty for me, I had the newsletter for me. I don't know if there was anything that you were, like, you know, now people are just like sucked to whatever their Twitter is or read
it or whatever it is. I don't know what you were. What were you going for information as a kid or as a teenager in those years that like really defined us as and we're the same age, I think. So it's to forty Club. I subscribe to the Torch on the Observer in ninety seven and I really didn't know who they were except there were all these news sites like scoops and all the other stuff that they would credit Dave Meltzer and
Wade Killer, and I had no idea who that was. So I went and jumped on that, and then of course One Wrestling and that became pw Insider, and yeah, I got all my stuff originally from the Internet, and they referred me to the newsletters and just kept up with Dave and these days of course Sean rell sapp and everybody else. And did you get the actual newsletters coming to your house? Oh yeah, I got them in the mail every Saturday and it was awesome. Yeah, just like me. You
realize you try to sell them, that they're not worth anything anymore. Well, I threw them out. I didn't keep them. I wish I would have kept all my old vhs as though. I got a bunch of college sey I'm home videos and I was like, nobody's using this. This is a dead medium. Then I get on eBay and I'm like, oh, man, I threw away a lot of money. Yeah yeah, yeah, but well, funny you say that because I think, notoriously you're such a collector. Yeah. Right, But that was my accident, you know.
I mean I had stuff as a kid, and then I just said, you know, I don't really keep up with wrestling anymore. I don't care, and I let kids have it, or I just dumped it, or you know, if it was something I recorded, but I just didn't hang on to it. And then one day I saw a robe Ric Flair robe on eBay and I was like, man, that'd be like own in one of Elvis's jumpsuits. That's cool. And so then I thought, all right, now that I have this, what the hell do I do with it?
Like? How do you display that in your house? Like? What do he do with it? Once you have it? So I thought, okay, well maybe I'll do a little display. Okay, I need a belt. Well, who makes the coolest big gold belt? It was Dave Milliken at the time, had a really nice one, and I saw that he had pictures of the old original Ric Flair nameplay from the actual Big Gold Belt, and I found out who had it and bought it. And then
I was like, well that was kind of easy. I wonder if I could find the belt, and I did, and it became like this fun treasure hunt of who has what? And I mean, as I'm sitting here with you now, I'm working on something, so yeah, it's always fun to find that next thing. How did you find How did you find that? You said, I found the name play? Well, yeah, so Dave had a picture of it posted on his website where he sells belts and stuff, and I said, hey, man, do you have this hypothetically
is that for sale? And he goes, no, my buddy, has it, and he told me he'd never sell it, so email and I said, okay, well, hypothetically, if hever changes his mind, I'm a buyer at blank. Two days later he emailed me back and said, never is today. Here's his phone number. So I bought the nameplay. It was five grand. Nice but to me, what a great deal that was to have the actual nameplay from the Big Gold Belt through NWAWCW the WWF
five grand, Like, man, that's cool. Like if that was a piece of NFL history, that would have been fifty thousand, but because it was wrestling history ten years ago, it was five grand. I'm like, oh, dude, that's home run. I'm in Yeah, have you gone to the museum. I haven't yet, I'm going tomorrow. Okay, because there is a Maurice till a Death masks, Bruce has one of those rights. Yes, does he still have it? I think so. It's in
his office. I had heard he's sold it. I don't believe so, And it's like not my dream to own it, but I feel the same way, like I want to, like, hey, anyone who has it, Like when you're ready to sell it, I'm ready to buy it. And I feel I don't care what the price would be. I don't know how to say that. Now, Well you can ask Bruce tomorrow. Okay, it's gonna be here. But his new place in Connecticut, he's got
like a formal office and then like a podcast office. So for years you could see it in the background when we were doing pods at his old house in Texas. But like his formal office now sits in there, so he still got it, which is crazy to me. Well, you let him know. I'll let him know he's ready, because I think there's only six, maide I believe. Okay, I didn't know that there's only six in the world, and we have one here that's all museum, and then I
know Bruce has one, so there's four. And I think out there, well, there's the one guy who's the man I hate that I forgot his name. Does anyone know the guy who knows everything about Maurice Delay, who's the French Angel. I think he's come here before, but he's like the utmost knowledgeable human being. And a lot of people think that the character Shrek was loosely modeled on this guy's wrestling, and I think that's why it would
never lose value and it would only go up. Yes, what are the what are the things that you seeked out and tried to get and did get? Besides that, because I feel you have the giant collection, or maybe I'm incorrect. No, no, yeah, I mean the thing I looked for forever that no one could find. I was able to collect a bunch of Rick Flair robes and and I wound up making money on all of them.
But the one I always wanted that I could never find was the butterfly robe, the one he wore at the ninety two Rumble, so black with white feathers or whatever and silver butterflies. We couldn't find it at all. And then while WW was in the middle of filming that Most Wanted Treasures thing, a buddy, a collector buddy of mine, said, you won't believe this. It's sold on eBay in like two hours for a fraction of what
it was actually worth. And I happened to know the buyer, so we started negotiating and we recreated some of that for A and E. But that was kind of a real story, like I'd been looking for that thing and calling it out on podcasts forever, and then it just popped up out of nowhere when you least expected it. Wait, something was recreated, and can you believe it in a reality show? It's not all reality, but I
mean the gist of the story was real. I mean I'd been looking for that thing, you know, at least once a month I'd make a post or mentioned it on a podcast for eight years, and then it just popped up out of nowhere. So that was maybe the most rewarding find because I had actually sought it out for so long. Yeah. Um, as a huge fan of comedy podcasts, I remember there was a guy named jeff Erlick who like just saw there was a show that I still listen to. It's
called Comedy Bang Bang. It's been it's been out forever, and he just like saw the potential in it in like twenty ten and was just like he found angel investors, but like by himself, and he just realized that, like, there's money in it, there's this is a business model. No one's really doing it, but I'm going to be early in on it and I'm going to figure it out. And then they formed Earwolf. Earwolf sold to Stitcher. Stitcher sold to Sirius, and then a fifty million dollars paycheck
later. You know, like here we are in the world, and I guess I know you started with Rick Flair as like a total outsider. Yes, and I'm sure you've talked a lot about about this, but I you know, you're I think everyone one would have applaud like your business brain of like what you've created, which is able. Yeah, and like I want to know, like some people were like, Coult, did you know yours
was going to be like popular? And I was kind of like, yeah, like they've been doing the style of podcast that I was doing for years in comedy and it got really popular. Like I saw it there. I just knew you had to like make it for our people. Did you have that business mind? Did you see the opening? Did you see like where you're at? Did you see that opening? Knew you had to put in some hours but it would get there? Yeah? Absolutely. I mean I
didn't know what I was doing. You know. That was the longest question of all time, so I appreciate it. I was an accidental podcaster with Rick. You know, he got a deal with CBS and then asked me to come in and ask him fan questions on the first episode because he just thought it would be awkward just him talking to a microphone. He wanted to do what we're doing, so I said sure, and at the end of it, the CBS folks said, hey, that was pretty good. Can
you come back next week? So I became an accidental podcaster. And Rick was old school. He was driving to a radio station in downtown Atlanta, so i'd make the trip over and we'd knock out, sometimes two in a week. And it was fun. But as you said, you're not making any money, you're learning, you're figuring it out. And through doing that, I realized, just because you know, I want to I want to business up everything. So I would look at downloads and say, hey,
what's doing better Now. Some people would say, oh, podcasting is fun, and I get that, but I am a sales guy. I want to grow. I want to do more. So I want to give the audience. I want to super serve the audience. What are they buying, what are they not buying? Let's give them more of what they like and less of what they don't. So we had big time guests on like Dana White, Nobody listened, Lawrence Taylor, nobody listened. Darius Rucker. Nobody
listened nasty board knobs through the roof. What the hell like that don't make any sense? So then I was like, Okay, I got it. But I also noticed wrestling podcasts at the time everyone was doing the interview format, whether it was Jericho or Jr. Or Austin. So when Al Snow had a new book come out, you know what I mean, obviously everybody has out one and promote the book. I get that we're all pulling for
out. As a listener, I would be like, I just heard him last week On the other I don't know, maybe I'll listen to it later. So it became kind of skippable. So then I thought, all right, as a business, I don't want to have to have the stress of having fifty two different guests a year. I would rather just be about the show. And I grew up a big Howard Stern fan. And I know people think he's a great legendary interviewer now, but some of my favorite moments
weren't his long form interviews. It was just him busting volves with the rest of the crew. So I thought, I want more of that. How do I do that? And it just so happened that I became acquainted with Bruce and I hired him to help me shoot some commercials and stuff because he's
great at television production. Those campaigns were gangbusters. But at the end of one long day, we're just sitting in my house edan barbecue, watching TV and I said, hey, man, what happened when the radicals jumped over from WCW to the WWF And he adjusted in his seat and he said, well, And we just talked for an hour back and forth, and at the end, I go, dude, this is a podcast we should have recorded that. There's nothing out there like that. That's sort of how the
Conrad format. I don't call it that, but others online do. Was born is just one topic in long form? He produced your mortgage commercials? Yeah, absolutely, absolutely else was he doing because he was out of the when I'm at Bruce he had he was managing an attorney's office. A friend you've probably if you were an OG something the wrestle listener. You heard the Rob Taylor Mesothelioma commercials. That was the guy that Bruce used to work for
and managed his office. And you know he I met him and I knew he had a TV background. I was trying to come up with a fun idea and I had the ideas, but I didn't know how to produce it. I didn't know how to shoot it. I didn't know how to get my vision on video. Bruce could do it, so he flew into Huntsville. We did a shoot in Huntsville, did one in Nashville, did one in Chattanooga. They were home runs, and I was like, Okay,
this is a thing. We're going to do more of this. And so he would come in like once a month and we'd shoot something else, but in the evening time he would just tell wrestling stories. I was like, we gotta start recording these and let people hear this. And he became a
reluctant accidental podcast or nice Yeah. So again we're the same age. So like when whatever, when a name pops up, like and I was just listening to Power and Glory today for some reason, I don't know why I showed up in my YouTube, you know, like I think I was like,
Oh, how do they debut? I'd like to know. And then the next recommended was Bruce shooting on Power and Glory, and I was like, oh, I would like to hear, you know, like, so I loved that information, and then you get to ask all the questions that you always wanted to know the answer yes, because he was right there.
So you're just they're the same as the listener. Was there any anything that you wanted to get out of him that you like, he won't talk to you on our information And I'm not saying to give me any answer, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, well it's almost a joke at this point. But he will not reveal the magic behind a buried alive match. Okay, but I mean NBC did it so we could see it, but just tell us how you guys did it, And he just won't.
He won't reveal that, which I think is a little silly, like of all the things that we're willing to tell all the truth on this one off, stupid gimmick match we won't talk about, but he won't do it. And then I was going to say, what are your thoughts or what have you learned about the idea of the kind red format or you know, the idea of like, hey, we can't depend on guests the whole time,
and can that go for ten years? Have you what have you learned, what have you started implementing into your shows, and what do you think, Like are some moves that you might have that you are thinking about or want to move towards in the future. I gets I don't know what to sustain,
but to you know, to keep this thing rocking and rolling. Yeah, I mean, I think the way people consume media is different, so we've certainly started to do more video, but I think the short form video is the next thing, you know, not just TikTok, but like Instagram reels and YouTube shorts and all that. I think those little data points that's where the long term money is probably going to be. And a lot of channels have already figured that out, where we could do one long form thing,
then we can do a series of five and seven minute clips. Then we can do some that are one to two minutes them he can do something that are fifteen to thirty seconds. But I think the short form video is really the growth opportunity for wrestling as a whole. Like, like, my mom went to Ric Flair's last match last year. It's the first time she's been to a wrestling match in forty years, and when she was done,
she said son. Then boys in them masks. She had never seen lucha libre before, so all the acrobatic stuff she had never seen and thought that was amazing. Well, my mom sits at home and consumes Facebook and TikTok videos all day long, but she's not gonna sit down and watch a Lucha libre match. But if she saw a clip of that man, she'd be all in and then she might go buy the mask, and she did. She has a pent A mask in her office now because she loved that match.
He wasn't in the match, but that didn't matter. She thought the mask looked cool. Also the sensual way you're like about your mom and then boys in the match, well she's like, I've never seen anything like that before, Like, how did they do that? It's like cert to Sleigh for her. She grew up on continental wrestling, you know, so it's a little different what the Fullers were doing and what the Lucha bros Are doing.
That's so she was really enamored with that, and I think that's probably the growth opportunity is to get non fans and kids and younger folks to watch is the short form. So I think we'll probably start doing more short form video and then you say we and this is my biggest mistake that I regret is I was my own machine and sometimes it just gets too much. And so when you say, I know, but I'm looking for you to answer,
is a team? You build a team? Right? Yeah? I mean, I don't know how many folks, maybe thirty ish people work on our podcast. It's a lot. It is a lot, but you know, I mean, we've got to have people who who edit video, and we got to have people who can do the audio, and we've gotta have people who can research, and people who do social and people who sell ads and that we have the whole starcast thing. So yeah, twenty four thirty
ish people. But when you're doing mortgages, you already did you already have a team in your pre wrestling business life, oh, in the mortgage side. Yeah? Oh yeah, Yeah, we've been rocking a big team since oh nine. And you did you go to school for business or anything? Yeah? So I got a scholarship when I was a sophomore in high school for our local community college. But it was like all your books in tuition
and everything. So it was like, Okay, that's what I want to do because I knew I wanted to be in sales like my family had enjoyed success in their life through sales, so I knew that's what I wanted to
do. And so my second year I was starting my sophomore year. My business teacher, Van Scott, who I had to have a ton of classes with my freshman year too, said hey, some of you in this room, if you keep your head down and you keep your nose clean, in five years, some of you could make up to thirty five thousand dollars a year. And it was September and I looked at my year to day pastub
in my book bag and I'd already made over sixty grand. So I waited untill everybody left, and I go up and I said, hey, man, I think I'm done. He goes, are you dropping this class? I said no, I think I'm quit in school. And he said why, and I handed him my pasttub and he says, son, you make more than me. Where are you here? So I was it. I never went back to school. I quit. I've been full time selling ever
since. That was September of two thousand and then in August of oh one, I found the mortgage business, and it was the best thing that ever happened to me professionally for sure. What about podcasts, well, listen, I appreciate that. But as you know, the whole reason I got into podcasting was because I was spending a ton of cash advertising my mortgage company. So now it was like, as I'm driving to Atlanta to record with Rick, I'm like, people all over the world are hearing for this, and
I'm not having to pay for it. I should just start mentioning the mortgage company. And at the time, we were only in like six states, where we're in forty six states now and we wouldn't have expanded all that licensing if it wouldn't have been for a now unpaid global advertising campaign. So it was an accident, but it was a good one, a good accident. Ad free shows dot com is the way that everybody gets to everything. Yeah, absolutely, or just hit me up on Twitter and I'll probably tweet about
it. Hey, Hey it's Conrad. There you go, Conrad Thompson. Ever, thanks to everybody, Thank you all rights, please welcome my next guest, pro wrestling legend that Tommy rich Wildfi's that body doing. More more importantly, how are you doing up an old man? I'm doing good. Are you an old man? Your hair looks spectacular today as an old man. You're looking good, Tommy, I feel good. Where are you living these days? Myrtle Beach. That's the fucking place to live. Let's have
some good medicine there. What what made you? You're not? Are you not? Are you a Myrtle Beach man? Through and through? From Where were you born? I was born in Nashville, and then of course had to run in Atlanta, lived there about thirty years, and uh went dawn. The Myrtle Beach friend lives there and he had a condo there, and we went down state a few times. And my wife mother lives in Charleston, so we just said it puts her close to her, far enough away,
but close enough she can go visit. Yeah. I feel like when you hear stories about wrestlers, they're like, oh, I would travel to Hawaii and then you know, go to Japan, and then it's just like, why aren't I living in Hawaii? And they do. So I feel that's like, oh, maybe you were a Myrtle Beach man. Was there a Myrtle Beach wrestling scene? Well? I had the guy that had to condo. I hope to wrastling school up there for about a year, and
of course that was a tourist town and it didn't work out. We went home and they had condo opened up, and I enjoyed my time down there. We had a house down there. But uh, we're pretty close to the beach. But when you were I mean traveling the territories, was there ever like Wednesday nights in Myrtle Beach? Oh no, no, I've never never been. As a matter of fact, never rastled in Myrtle Beach too
much. I rastled a couple of times there for rocket. Uh. But like I said, my wife was from there, I mean Charleston said. It was a good connection for her. And uh we bought a conduct Uh COVID hit. We bought it and and uh anyway, COVID hit and the plan was to move there later. But anyway, so we sold the house in Atlanta and moved to Myrtle Beach. All right, well, uh,
you're doing great. It looks like you're doing great. Let's talk a little wrestling, Yes, sir um, how you liking Do you like wrestling? I still love it today. Brother, Now I've been so blessed man. Uh you know, shoot, I started in nineteen seventy five and and God's good man, you know, he's uh put me in some of the greatest angles it's ever been done. You know, very blessed with that, and uh, shoot, I still love it. I still love coming to see the fans and stuff. I mean, you know, you had a lot
of success very early in your career. Like were they were they there to help you or did you did you see a lot of like people like hindering the idea that here's a young guy getting pushed. No, sir, no, not a bit. I helped her body. I h superstar Bill Edy. Uh she Baron von RASKI said, I mean less stature. I mean I got and back back when I started. Man, it didn't matter if you was a main event or I was the main event. As long as
we put asses in the seat. We knew he was gonna get paid, you know, and you had to put ashes in the seat, you know. Said it was different, but uh, like I said, kemp tear and just guys like that, they could I eat my lunch? Uh? They took me, putting me under their wing and never looked back. I mean, it's it's kind of like dancing, and I got to dance with
the best dancers. You know, all the rest of us will always say they got like tested in a way, uh, you know, to see if these guys can this guy can hang, if he's ready for a big push. Did you ever have a tester or anyone kind of rough you up a little bit, just kind of to know that you're ready to go? Now, when I first started, of course, it's you know, back then it was you know, I mean, guys like lessay, it's pretty stiff anyway, you know, I mean, it just it was a solid
you know. I mean, I'm not saying they ain't stiff today because I don't know. I don't wrestle in the day's world. But back there, I mean, but it was just business. I mean, you know, it's kind of like a magic trick. Back then. You want to if people didn't believe, they wouldn't buy a ticket to come see it. They believed, you know. I mean, it's kind of like a magic trick. You go see a magic trick one hundred times, want you to know how they do it? Then it ain't quite as good, you know,
I mean, and That's that's the ear I come from. That's uh, you know, I mean the Funx, the brisk Goes. You know. I watched them, of course in Tennessee where I used to go, the Fargoes, Jackie Fargo. I'm Charlotte Roughhouse Fargo. He had papers Jackie bring him in watching twice a year out of the nuthouse. But people eat it up, you know when you were in Memphis. Yeah, like what was your loops like in Memphis? She would do Memphis on Monday night. Tuesday
be Louisville, Kentucky. Wednesday would be h Evansville, Indiana. Then Thursday would be a spot show. Friday he would be a spot show that Sarah do you do Memphis TV? Then go to Jonesboro, Arkansas. And then we had Sunday off back then. Of course they learned Sunday is a good day too now, so then he's working seventeen times a week, you know. So but it's uh, you know, and you had to put the
asses in them seats every week, you know. I mean we was in the same town week after week, and and you didn't you don't get you didn't get no time off. I mean we ran fifty two weeks a year, and that's correct me. If I'm wrong, is that Jerry Jared and Lawlor they switching the book? Is that? Yeah? That was Jerry. Of course, Jerry jareds one to give me the opportunity. He used to
come watch me play football. I knew Eddie Marland. He Jerry jarried married Eddie Marlin's daughter, And so I got into it that way and then told yo, y'allamoto and like I said, Jackie Fargn help me a lot, and and just uh, just very blessed. I made it. Just all the guys and and infest the wrestling fans I made they took a liking to me, and all the guys did too. I meane, like I said,
if we was drawing money by everybody was happy. Yeah. And you said like, hey, this is only successful if we were making money and putting asses in seats. So if you like, how does it work for you at that time? Are you like pitching ideas or are you getting ideas just told to you and you'll do them the best that you can, Like, if you had something creative in your mind, are you going to somebody? Are you going, oh yeah, holy holy, I talked to Holy
or um. You know, but back then I made Holy was a great book. Or you know. I didn't like him very much, but he was a good business way. Somebody didn't like Holy Anderson, but you know I made it just uh. And I got a good break in Tennessee and I learned there. I stayed in Tennessee for about two years and then got the opportunity to go to Atlanta. And in the first night that I was
there, my drawl Jerry. Jerry tell me said, kid, if you get down there and don't like it, he said, call me because he's one that got me booked down there. I said, guest, sir, And uh so I got down there. It's Friday night at the Atlanta City Auditorium. I had me a long road made. I thought, I just cool, my mom, come down, my little brother. And uh after WI beat my ass and busting my head in thirty seconds, Tony Adlers saved
me. I thought, damn, I might need to call Jerry Jerry, but I sucked it up state and uh, you know the rest is history will tell me the process of going from Tennessee to Georgia. So you said, Jerry got you there? Uh, so what does that mean. Does that mean that he's like, I think you'll do better down there, or I need you to go. No, I just it was time for a challenge. I just you know, um, you're just time for me to go somewhere, and you're okay being like, yep, I'll just move somewhere
else. Well I was was eighteen, Well by that time, I was about nineteen. But you know, what's the nineteen year old, you know, grown up person, you know, I mean it, And but that's business. That's the way the business was help I mean in wa it was all over the country. It wasn't just one person running it. I mean everybody there was a different territories. You had Geigole, Kansas City. I mean, you had Eddie Graham down in Florida, upon Eric's in Texas.
I mean, so there was somewhere for everybody to go, you know. I mean you'd learned, you'd say, I learned so much here in Tennessee, and then I got the opportunity. If I hadn't made it in Tennessee, then I ever went to Florida. You know. And as long as you got better at each one, didn't they passed the word down the line. Hey, this kid's got potential, you know. So so I was very blessed man in seventeen. They had seemed a little young, corn bread,
skinny kid and they looking to big monsters and stuff. And I come in there and and Jerry, Jerry, one thing he taught me was how to sell, and uh, I'd get my asswood, but I I wouldn't give up. And uh and so it just you know, it wasn't very good. Then you sing going to different places kind of got me thinking. I was just curious of like, um, kind of like the I don't know if there's like the weirdest places or have you been to obscure countries or
obscure weird places that resident took you? No, I I was pretty much stay at home. I wanted Japan, that's about. I'm gonna did a few trips over there. And uh, of course, first what time I went, that's back. They didn't have nothing but to Shakey's Pizza and Tokyo and uh, you went outside of town, there wasn't nothing there. And
I was there for six weeks and there was four guys. I mean, you know, for a tiger jett sing and I didn't know none of them, So I pretty much for six weeks, I called my wife cry and said I want to come home. And you know, I got through that third third week, it's really bad, and then you hit the fourth week, you still want to go home, and then back by that fifth week, you know, you fix and makeup money, so then then it's then it's okay, you know, but it wouldn't mind, you know it h
and slide. I wish I'd won a bunch more, and I did, but you know, it is what it is. Yeah. I remember I did my first tour of Japan in two thousand and five and all I had was like a DVD player and there was an internet cafe, and I remember being like, this is so crazy, how boring this is? Like in twenty nineteen when I was doing tours and look watching movies on my phone, but I wouldn't think back to like the eighties and the nineties of like what
did these guys do? There was right in a foreign land, and you know a lot of the answer was and I you know, I'm not saying this is you, but a lot of them they were like, well that's why they all just partied all nights and then woke up and got to the gym and then by the time they were done, they were ready for the show and they just rinse. That's pretty much. Yet you'd go out, which I like that going out part. Yeah, still even before an old man, I still like to go out. So my memories of you are
WCW. Thomas Rich that's my memories and ECW with the full blooded Italians. You know, first, that's probably one of my best times. I may had had fun with it, you know what I'm saying. That was you know, no pressure, just get out, go do your thing, and which was Thomas Rich. No, no, no, that was the big die. So who fitched you the FBI idea? And um and did you were I had imagine you were like, yeah, I'm down for anything.
But I don't know if you saw anything weird about it at first. Well, my first question was just the bunny the same, right, and they said yeah. I said, I don't have problem with it at all. You know. That was you know, I mean, we did some six mans and stuff, but uh, it was just it was fun. A great bunch of guys there, I thought. But I was first I was really glad because I'd see him. You know, if you're in a fight
somebody throws a chair at you, you're gonna blow yards. They stand there and just blow up and you don't break it to you know, off a damn make some bad ass boys right there. But uh, it was it was good. I mean I had a two year run there, so it was all good. Did you feel like a because they were like the rebels of wrestling at the time, did you feel like a kinship like, oh this was me when I was a kid. Oh yeah, oh yeah, I fit right in, right, fit right in, wonderful. And then
WCW was just I mean, who was who did you go? Were you there through all the weird changes and regimens? Well, I didn't know they was selling the business at the time, and U Jim Crock had come in and he said, some of you have a job someone I just bought it and I had a bunch of friends you know that worked there. So we got off and then he told me a thund about Patterson. Everybody else was flying up on the plane. He told me a thunderboat drive. I don't
think thunderboat win, and I know I didn't go. So we both missed TV and we both was fired. So anyway, he is what it is right there and then and then as the career wound down, were you okay with that at the time as you stopped kind of wrestling? Uh? Do you feel like? Help me explain how I, as a forty three year old man, can get used to the idea of like wrestling is gonna go away from me and pretty soon, you know, I don't know, I'm wrestling tonight. Oh you are? I still but I still love it.
I mean, lord knows, I can't do what I did back to them, but I still love it and I love it, you know, just going and socializing with the fans too. I still love that. So it's been a good ride for me. Man. So the retirement, the o woult of ring retirement wasn't that hard. Just no, I enjoyed this like like this, it's a big thing. So you know, like I said, I can't do much, but I like to get in there and still try to entertain. Hell. Yeah, now I'll ask do you have any
plugs? You're easy points to it. I'm assuming you're not at the internet. Happy man. No, No, my wife does all that all right. Just Hey, the main lug is and What keeps us thriving is all these folks out of here, man, and God bless every one of them. That's it. That's that's that's my thing, man, God bless him. Time to rich everybody hand all right, please welcome to the stage. My next guests. Let's stature the Hall of Fame. Yeah, it took
me sixty three years to good here. It's been a long uphill true. Well, great to see you, thanks for coming. Are you uh still in Ohio? Man? Well, I'm living in Knoxville, Tennessee right now. You have left Ohio? Well I just kicked it. No, yeah, yeah, Well, you know a family that's home, you know, grew up there, but all my family moved on. My daughter and her husband have a farm about an hour and a half north of Columbus, Ohio. And I'm not a farmer. My son and my grandson are in Knoxville,
and he runs two lots that so storage buildings in cardboards. So I thought I'd rather sell carpords and storage buildings in farm. Plus, I had a history in Knoxville. We we had a hell of a run in Knoxville from the late sixties right into the early eighties. Are you waiting. Are you still selling? What are you still working? Not unlike Tommy, I am not on the car tonight. No, no cardboard like well I would, I would rather be doing something in this business. But yeah, just
I can still train. I'm taking any bumps or anything but helping my son out, you know. And actually all the years in the business, I was just having fun. Right now I'm working. It's a real job. Nine was going to say, you've been in the wrestling industry for so long making a business, getting by one thing I've always been just uh, I thought so highly and like akin to me is uh, you're a hustler, right, would it self? Admittedly I would admit that, Yes, I'm
trying all the time. We are you talking about the length of my career As of this past July the fourth was the sixty third anniversary of my first match in Blue Hills, made in nineteen sixty amazing, it amazes me, probably worn it, but I'm gonna like, I'm gonna get back to my hustler point. Um, okay, well it's just like from what so when I started in wrestling in nineteen ninety nine, you know, like I would,
you were always doing something. It was always like when I started, of course, the legendary MTV show, so I knew you were at HWA and then you moved on to something else, and you always had something going.
But I from knowing you and talking other people, like, I feel like even in like the seventies, and I think someone told me about like a T shirt thing, you had going, Like you you always had some kind of side wrestling hustle plan, which I always appreciate you no, and it never had any of its plan, to be quite honest, it was just the opportunity presented itself, right, But your brain said, like,
I'm going to take advantage of this op try to anyway. Yeah, I'm not saying I'm gonna make this work, but let's see if we can. You know. But the T shirt thing, Jack and Jerry Briscoe and I were sitting around drinking a beer, just talking about life in general and Jerry's apartment in Charlotte, right, and as you know, the T shirt thing. I got crazy with bands and everything back into sixties, and I'm thinking in nineteen seventy two, hey, maybe maybe faces right, it's still cafe,
but maybe faces should be able sl T shirts. So I had mentioned this to a couple of promoters about, hey, this might be an avenue to pursue, and they never said it. They thought it was bad. They just weren't interested, right, So I was kind of venting that frustration to Jack and Jerry, and Jack said, well, let's do it. What do you mean, well, the three of us, we all three throw in a third of the money and we'll try it. Okay, so we okay, let's do it. So we came up with the Briscoe Booster
T shirt. That was kind of my idea. But young upstart of the name of Jerry Lawler did the artwork. He charged me absorbing twenty five dollars for penny drawing, and I wish I had it now. So it's in my here for three or four I was gonna ask if you have any of those sitting around? Well there your company is reproducing. Yeah, the Briscoe Booster T shirt, right, But I want to know those originals. I wish I had a whole box something me and Conrad wants in our collection.
Well, Conrad, you can buy me. We got to find those original T shirts. That's amazing. I wish I wish we could. Yeah, true, but you know, nobody, we had no idea. We weren't entrepreneurs. We were wrestlers, right, and nobody thought it's going to take off. The first place we sold, Jerry and I loaned in the car, went to Fedville North Airline. We were kidding about it. Obviously.
Years later, maybe we invented a gimmick table. You know, back then the only product that a wrestler had was an eight coussiate by ten black and white you could sell for a buck and sign it. We'd paid ten cents a piece for those things, so you didn't need a table for that, you know, give it to some kid into matches. But you got all these T shirts. We got to have someplace to put them, so we
asked the people avocal, we have a table. So we piled these T shirts up, and you know the old sales pitch that things are flying off the shelves. People were buying these stick their lined up and Jerry's this is good. I said, it's no, it's great, all right. But the thing of it was, as it grew again, we were not entrepreneurs like somebody I know named called Cabana. And that's a compliment my friend.
So there wasn't enough profit margin built in that once the promoters, I mean the building are obviously going to take a piece, right, and the ones that had the big percentage, we just didn't hit because we didn't end that build in. And then these promoters didn't anything to do with it. Saw what it was doing. Now they want a piece of it. Right, We were selling these shirts of three dollars and fifty cents a piece. Right, you could buy any cohor you want as long as they're black white with
black let it. So what we did was it just we couldn't, you know. And the three of us still had a career at wrestling, career in front of us. Right when I went down to Atlanta to work with Gordon during the war in seventy three and seventy four on the TV and in the office to help out Wait hold On during the Wait What Atlanta the War the Wrestling War in seventy three, seventy three and seventy four, and uncle's
husband died. He was one of the owners George Championship Wrestling Buddy Fuller, and those guys didn't want to share with her and buy around, so she started her own promotion. So the crazy thing. In the midst of that, Tommy had mesh of the old Atlanta Auditorium. Right, we sold it out on Friday night. They sold it out on Tuesday. We sold it out on Friday. Any So for a couple of years that that's the way it ran, right. But but when I went down there, I had
to get a two bedroom apartment. But I only need one the other bedrooms for T shirts. And I said to Jack and Jerry, I don't intend to go around the country carrying a truck floaded T shirts. Right. So anyway, my dad built some shelving in the garage in the house in Cincinnati, so they started hamm them. We finished it out a mail order,
right. But I teased Jerry, I said, with all the T shirts sales to day, if we could just get one percent of the net every week where we build a castle, right, I mean, it's become that kind of business. But yeah, we kicked it off. But that's so cool that you maybe invented the gimmick table. I love that you did say like that, Oh but those promoters, And I was like, yeah, those damn promoters. But then, uh, you're you became a promoter.
I'm you know I've done everything. We get rich in this business. It's a little late for rich. So I mean, like, would you tell me, I mean, tell me about it, Like the idea of transferring from a promoter, from a wrestler to a promoter, and like if you were like at first, like I'm going to make sure everyone gets paid, and then were you like I'm looking to get paid. Did you have these kind of conversations in your own head? No, not really, because I'd
been down that road so much as a wrestler, right. So, and you know the crazy thing is, I would almost guess, looking back then in the sixties and seventies, if every promoter they had first count on the ticket, so they took a little off the top. It was just common practice, right, So Okay, you just moved on and got your share and hoped it was better than you're suspected. Right, So it was.
I never considered myself a promoter as such. Right. I started doing this when I was nineteen years old, and I can see here today at age eighty two and tell you I am still in love with the wrestling business. It is my passion, it is who I am, it's what I do, and it's when I die, I hope that somebody'll say, hey, he was a wrestler. Yeah. Uh. Now, since you say you're eighty two, tell me, I can't imagine you really care. Tell me how much money you got from WWF? Uh? Like? So hwa was
the feeder system for for WWF? Like? What was the deals were? What were you getting? Like? Who were they sending you? How did you like work that into like profit margins? If that makes sense? Well, not only did developmental guys, right, but then they would let me have maybe four or five of the guys off the main roster who needed a break up there, right, So I would have them day d H with
the developmental guys. And as you know, I'm having working for me young earlier in your career, some of the guys I trained were damn good country wrestlers. A guy named my Nige. When we get us, you might say he was a fair hand, sure right, Matt Striker yep, VJ. Whitmer, Pepper Parks I just saw yesterday. Yeah, I told him I was seeing you good. Yeah, and shark boys sharp pepper parts. I said, I'm gonna see lesson who's now the blade for these? Yes?
The Blade, you guys. Yeah, if the Blade is a tremendous he's a tremendous guy and a hell of a worker. So what was the deal they were were they paying you money to oh yeah, okay, well before them and how much for their paying But before them? Uh? I. The crazy thing was Bruce Pritchey came to me and said, you know, we expanded developmental and so we talked about it and came up with kind
of a working plan he saw. I'll get back to you. So I'm if anybody knows me, if you tell me we're gonna do something coat and you're gonna go take a nap, I'm already started doing what are we doing and how we're gonna do it? And how's it gonna be best. That's a hustler mentality. By the way, Yes, I apologize for being a hustler, but I don't mean to step in on your terry like you no. But I'm saying like oh you saying that, It's like, oh,
that's how my mind works. Okay, I get it. But so you know, I'm lining up place to the guys stay to come in right and trying to figure it all out. And then I'm talking to what. Terry Taylor was still with WW at the time, and I said, are we going to do this and finalize it or what? He went to Vince and he said, hey, let's just doing this. And well we get around to it. Okay, the phone rings and Gary Juter from WCW calls me. He said, I think somebody in Connecticut's been reading our MAO. And
I said, what you're talking about? He said, well, JJ and I were talking and we would like you to expand our developmental system with you. And I have you signed a content? I said, no, I don't even have a contract to sign. Don't sign anything. Do you talk to us? So they flew me into Atlanta and into the building and basically sent let me down and introduced me to everybody and walked me through the operation and said if you had a dream, what would it be for your company?
And he said, t shirts, I said, I want to be like hold Commandah. So, uh, you know, I told him what I thought it would take, you know, to put my operation up a level, and okay, let's do it. So I signed with them, right, and of course what I nobody told me and what was none of my business actually the time, but they were rupturing money because of the company, you know. But I could tell too except for JJ or Terry Taylor was there at the time and the guys that I knew from inside to business.
A lot of the management people were embarrassed to be there wrestling and I won't be a part of it. And I think that's part of the downfall. So you signed with wcw WC, but it never happened or it didn't. Oh no, it did happen right away. Part of you want to talk about a part of that deal. I got a twenty foot box truck, which you've seen right, I got the WCW ring et cetera, et cetera, bonus to sign and guard rails and so HWA was a WCW it
was w and then h w C closed. Well when WC W uh well, before they went under, I was the newest guy on the block. So they canceled me Jay Hark. Let me know, hang on because when we get around, we're gonna bring in And that did happen, and that did happen. Yeah, so there was a little down time in between there. But yeah, so that I've actually been a trainer for both companies.
Right, yeah, that's a h w A a true success story and uh you know those and I was gonna say, those guys are there's still there's still you know within our wrestling community. Like I just said, you know a Blade and Nigel and and they're still there. And so that's your you know when you say when I go on, you know, people to remember me as a wrestler, and it's like they're living there, you know,
passing well. You know, actually, if you look, the guys are Jamie Noble, my Fingerprints and Shannon Moore and uh, oh my god, currently Adam Cole, Johnny Gargano, Drew Goolock or guys that I've worked with. You know, it amazes me sometimes when I look, I had something to do with this. You know, you just do it and you don't really stop to look behind. Mike Mooningham did a three part column, a newspaper column about me coming here, and after I read and I said,
damn, I'm tired. I didn't realize I'd done so much. Yeah, right, but you know, wrestling is my life. It's who I am, it's what I do, it's what I love, and I'd rather be here in any place. I'll tell you. Yeah, let's that you. Everybody, Thank you, thank you, remember thanking? All right, we have one more special guests before we get out of air. I want to make this an annual art of wrestling tradition. As we bring to our closer my friend and yours Rock Riddle, everybody, Rock right, the man the
myth Rack. I'm going to hand you a microphone and you're gonna talk until they kick us out of this building. He likes to stand us. Let the building, you know, and the banners fly. Feast your eyes on him. Is too good to be true, but he's actually here. We have their attention. This is great. Thank you, Rack. Do you want to interview me? Do you want me to just start talking? It's being a man of very I'm about to answer that question. And then he
just started talking. He hesitated before he answered. So, and as unaccustomed as I am to public speaking, I would just like to say thank you for the amazing opportunity to be standing next to one of my heroes. When I was a little kid, I watched this man on television and I said, he's pretty good for a wrastler. But if I grew up in b a restaurant be a lots better. Wow. And now we look back on history and we see that you and I have actually met in the ring.
That's right. Yeah, I trained you at the time. I said, I'm going to give you a wrestling lesson. Yeah. No, but I did it to you and you paid me. Remember when you bade me five thousand dollars and I was gonna scam you, and then I left the country and then you came and you found me buzz sawyer style. I stopped payment on the check. He did, he did, but I still, you know, I got to take you know, I got the idea that I did scam you, and you're not easily scammed Rock, that's true. Yeah.
Are you going to ask me questions? Or do you just want to sit down and let me take over? You choose? Ask me questions? Okay, Rock? Yes? How when was your first match? What year? What year? I'm not going to tell you what year. I was born in July twelve, nineteen seventy three, so it had to be you're laughing because you don't believe I'm not old. Do you celebrated that Big five? Oh this year? Oh my gosh? And when I did I said to my friends, and I actually have a few. I said, No
one's going to believe I'm that old. I'm going to start lying about my age. I just haven't started doing that yet. We'll get you there. Did you ever think you would like be this age? Fifty years old? Do I have a what? Did you ever think you would be fifty years old? No? I thought when on my thirtieth birthday. I grew up in a little town in North Carolina and there was a water tower in the
middle of the street. The cars would go around it, and I thought, on my thirtieth birthday, I would jump off of that tower and commit suicide, because why in the world would anyone want to live past the age of thirty. Remember, don't trust anyone over thirty. Yes, I knew that I would get some good suicide talk from Rock Riddle as I brought him
up. Hey, if you want more, because my life has always been outside of the professional wrestling business, has been pretty private, and my book will be out probably within three months, two to three months I anticipated being out. You can remember the short title simply wonderful, and then the subtitle is something like no one listens to your podcast. I don't want anyone stealing in the idea. I do have it trademarked, and I do have it
registered with the writers Guilt of America West. The choice suicide, serial killer or legend. Welcome to the amazing universe of Rock Riddle and something like that. The most revealing, absolutely blatantly and brutally honest truth. And that includes everything. That includes the ups in my life the downs. A life is a series of challenges. Correct, correct, Thank you very much. I wanted you to say something. Yeah, remember the Hey, go ahead leave.
This is the best part of the entire I love that Conrad Wine down on Rock, Honey, I can't stay here for there. I can't stand this guy. He's maggy and Karen Condas Indian, arrogant. He thinks he's better than we are. No, I don't, I know. I am. I was trying to get you an ad free show, Rock, but it didn't work. So anyway, that book will talk a lot about professional
wrestling. We'll talk about people who inspired me, Like when I was a tiny little kid and I actually did watch one of my heroes, less Stature right there. I watched him and I said, yes, if he can do that, I can do that, and I can use him as inspiration and motivation and a fantastic man he is. And Tommy Wildfire Rich has left the building. He's when you see him, tell him, Oh my gosh, you should have stayed. You could have. You can't believe what Rock
Riddle had to say. He shared all this amazing information with us. I've got seventeen more stories. Don't you want to know the story of Rip Hawk and how I got involved in the business and a wonderful sport and the wonderful world a professional wrestling. Oh no, what anybody do? I do? I do? But I think it's amazing that you and the iron Cheek that you gave it to him and he didn't beat the funk out of you. That's amazing. Well, it's just like when you and I were in together.
Yeah, you never knew all right, Rock Riddle, that's how we Yeah, thank you. I appreciate everybody here. Given up a rock one more time. He's the best. Thanks everybody. After this show, I'm gonna wrap it up a little bit here. But after the show, where there's obviously a giant show down, there's a lot of the wrestlers. I'm gonna be at a table Colt Merge dot table, all of that fun stuff.
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is becoming a promoter less. I'll send Freddie your way to learn the trade. That's in New Jersey, and then I'm you know, Every Wednesday, I'm backstage doing some good work with all elite wrestling. Sometimes I'll pop up on being the elite or beat or the shows. Keep your eye out for me. I want to give a hand one more time for my live studio audience here in Waterloo, Iowa. And let's thank our guest one more time. Conrad Thompson, Less Stature, Tommy Rich and of course the legend Rock
Riddle. Can't wait to have you back next year. Thank you to the National Wrestling Hall of Fame and the people of ip W. Thank you to you for Cold Cabana. I'm Cold Cabana. Thanks alright, Hi, everybody, how you doing. I didn't say clap your feelings, I said how are you doing? Okay? Great, We're gonna do a podcast here. If you need to chit chat, please feel free to go outside. That's not the place to do it. We got a lot of fun guests coming
up. I just want to make sure everything's recording. I'm gonna put some This will go up live on the internet. Anybody ever heard of the Internet. It's on computers now, so get used to it. It's a Simpsons reference. If anybody gets it. Okay, uh, let's see all right, what's gonna happen is uh, I'm gonna play. I'm not gonna play any music. I'll put it all in edits. So when I come on the stage or when I come this way, you're all gonna cheer, make
some noise, and you're gonna pretend like you've never seen me. And now you've seen me and it's a great day. Is that? Okay? All right? Let me open this up. Rock Raydle? Is that rock Radle? Okay? Alright, you guys ready, all right, I'm gonna hide in this corner. And then when I announced me, you're gonna make some noise. Ladies and gentlemen called cabana