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Art of Procurement

Philip Idesonartofprocurement.com
Learn from procurement experts. Host Philip Ideson talks with thought leaders who share the trends, strategies and tactics that you can lever to elevate the role of procurement - and your career.
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Episodes

BTW EP 07: Seeking Balance in Buyer-Seller Dynamics with Kate Vitasek

In this seventh episode of the "Buy: The Way…To Purposeful Procurement" podcast series, Art of Procurement's Philip Ideson and Fine Tune CEO Rich Ham take a deep dive into procurement history with Kate Vitasek, Faculty of Graduate and Executive Education at the University of Tennessee, and architect of the groundbreaking Vested methodology. With over 15 years of research and eight books dedicated to buyer-supplier strategic partnerships, Kate shares her insight into how procurement has tradition...

Apr 16, 202539 min

794: What Matters Most in Modern Procurement Hiring W/ Derek Lutz

"Procurement isn't just a cost center; it's a true value driver. So when they're recruiting, CPOs and heads of procurement are looking for someone who's current and who is bringing ideas to the table. They're not just hiring buyers anymore." - Derek Lutz, Founder and CEO, Lean Six Search As economic and geopolitical instability sends ripples of doubt across global supply chains, the question of which procurement skills will remain valuable, as well as which ones are becoming obsolete, has never ...

Apr 14, 202541 min

793: Procurement 6 | April 11th, 2025

Procurement 6 is a short podcast from Art of Procurement that publishes in the Art of Procurement feed every Friday morning at 6am US Eastern Time. Presented by a member of the Art of Procurement team, each episode has 6 short segments that summarize the week in procurement. Segments range from procurement tips to podcast summaries, from details of events to news or overviews of blog posts that capture our attention.

Apr 11, 202513 min

792: Catalyst LA Sneak Peak: Procurement's New Transformation Playbook with Natasha Gurevich

"Transformation is not just about how it's going to impact procurement, but about how it's going to impact the entire enterprise through the efforts that will be happening within the procurement function." - Natasha Gurevich, Founder & CEO, Candor Procurement Going through procurement transformation without the right approach in place and without support from the business is a bit like sailing into a storm… with a blindfolded crew. Your chances of making it to the other side in better shape ...

Apr 07, 202540 min

791: Procurement 6 | April 4th, 2025

Procurement 6 is a short podcast from Art of Procurement that publishes in the Art of Procurement feed every Friday morning at 6am US Eastern Time. Presented by a member of the Art of Procurement team, each episode has 6 short segments that summarize the week in procurement. Segments range from procurement tips to podcast summaries, from details of events to news or overviews of blog posts that capture our attention.

Apr 04, 20259 min

BTW EP 06: The Foothills of the Flaws; Retracing Procurement's Path with Rob Hills

It's been a long, winding road that has brought procurement to its current state of flawed incentive structures and measurement challenges. Rob Hills, CEO of Hills Advisory Services and former Deloitte partner, has seen it all unfold firsthand. But recognizing problems and how they were created is only half of the battle. With over three decades of procurement experience that stretches back all the way to the formative days of strategic sourcing at A.T. Kearney in the mid-1990s, Rob has seen the...

Apr 02, 202538 min

790: The Key to Doing More with Less? Evolve Procurement's Operating Model

"We're seeing data around the acceleration of procurement having to 'do more with less' and this is compounding year over year, so at some point, procurement's operating model is going to break." – Philip Ideson, Co-Founder and Managing Director, Art of Procurement Procurement teams are facing unprecedented and compounding pressure to "do more with less," and, because of that, it's more important than ever for procurement's operating model to evolve and mature to meet these growing demands. In t...

Mar 31, 202535 min

789: Procurement 6 | March 28th, 2025

Procurement 6 is a short podcast from Art of Procurement that publishes in the Art of Procurement feed every Friday morning at 6am US Eastern Time. Presented by a member of the Art of Procurement team, each episode has 6 short segments that summarize the week in procurement. Segments range from procurement tips to podcast summaries, from details of events to news or overviews of blog posts that capture our attention.

Mar 28, 202511 min

788: The Hackett Group's 2025 Key Issues Study: Insights on Procurement Priorities, Technology, and Operating Models

"We are seeing a labor-for-technology swap as organizations become much more dependent and scalable, and what's driving that scale and that productivity is technology." – Christopher Sawchuk, Principal and Global Procurement Advisory Practice Leader at The Hackett Group Procurement is no stranger to change. Over the last decade or more, procurement has seen significant shifts in priorities, in their role in the business, in how they are measured, and even in their daily processes and workflows. ...

Mar 24, 202537 min

787: Procurement 6 | March 21st, 2025

Procurement 6 is a short podcast from Art of Procurement that publishes in the Art of Procurement feed every Friday morning at 6am US Eastern Time. Presented by a member of the Art of Procurement team, each episode has 6 short segments that summarize the week in procurement. Segments range from procurement tips to podcast summaries, from details of events to news or overviews of blog posts that capture our attention.

Mar 21, 20259 min

BTW EP 05: The Phil-Ins: Connecting the Dots with Phil, Kelly, and Rich

In this episode of "Buy: The Way… To Purposeful Procurement," Rich Ham, Philip Ideson, and Kelly Barner reflect on what we heard from Oliver Hurrey and Brian Kyle in episodes 3 and 4 and explore how these procurement leaders find purpose and passion in their work, no matter how big or small the project is. Rich, Philip, and Kelly discuss what "purposeful procurement" truly means in 2025, challenging the notion that practitioners can only find purpose when they're working for highly-mission drive...

Mar 19, 202530 min

786: Mastering the First 100 Days as a CPO W/ Darshan Deshmukh

"For anybody getting into the CPO role, whether internal or external, you ultimately have to start with your own assessment of the organization and quickly come up with what your priorities are." – Darshan Deshmukh, President at ProcureAbility The role of Chief Procurement Officer has changed significantly over the last decade, with the focus shifting primarily from cost savings to value generation. In this Art of Procurement podcast episode, Philip Ideson talks with Darshan Deshmukh, President ...

Mar 17, 202543 min

785: Procurement 6 | March 14th, 2025

Procurement 6 is a short podcast from Art of Procurement that publishes in the Art of Procurement feed every Friday morning at 6am US Eastern Time. Presented by a member of the Art of Procurement team, each episode has 6 short segments that summarize the week in procurement. Segments range from procurement tips to podcast summaries, from details of events to news or overviews of blog posts that capture our attention.

Mar 14, 20259 min

784: Real Talk about Supplier Diversity in 2025 W/ Kelly Barner and Philip Ideson

"For anybody in procurement that's ever uttered the phrase 'seat at the table,' it's not always a comfy seat. This is one of those moments where, if we want to be a part of the leadership discussion on the directional momentum of the company, we have to find the way, find the person, and find the time to have this conversation about supplier diversity." - Kelly Barner, Co-founder and Head of Operations at Art of Procurement Is this the end of supplier diversity as we've known it? As the politica...

Mar 10, 202533 min

783: Procurement 6 | March 7th, 2025

Procurement 6 is a short podcast from Art of Procurement that publishes in the Art of Procurement feed every Friday morning at 6am US Eastern Time. Presented by a member of the Art of Procurement team, each episode has 6 short segments that summarize the week in procurement. Segments range from procurement tips to podcast summaries, from details of events to news or overviews of blog posts that capture our attention.

Mar 07, 202510 min

BTW EP 04: Mission Possible: Unburdened Procurement with Brian Kyle

The stakes are always high for procurement, but at mission-driven non-profits like the American Cancer Society, procurement is working to – quite literally – help save lives. In this powerful fourth episode of "Buy: The Way…To Purposeful Procurement," co-hosts Philip Ideson, Founder of Art of Procurement, and Rich Ham, CEO of Fine Tune, speak with Brian Kyle, Vice President of Supply Chain and Accounts Payable at the American Cancer Society, to explore what enterprise procurement can learn from ...

Mar 05, 202529 min

782: Measuring What Matters: Transforming Services Spend Management W/ Gordon Donovan

" When we start thinking about and putting the end customer at the center of everything we do, it changes our perception of what's important and therefore what we measure in the outputs from our contracts. " Gordon Donovan, Vice President Research - Procurement & External Workforce, SAP Services spend makes up a large, strategic part of the value procurement provides to the business. But, it's also an area that's ripe for improvement. Building off of services spend management research we sta...

Mar 03, 202542 min

781: Procurement 6 | February 28th, 2025

Procurement 6 is a short podcast from Art of Procurement that publishes in the Art of Procurement feed every Friday morning at 6am US Eastern Time. Presented by a member of the Art of Procurement team, each episode has 6 short segments that summarize the week in procurement. Segments range from procurement tips to podcast summaries, from details of events to news or overviews of blog posts that capture our attention.

Feb 28, 202510 min

780: The Art of Trust Building: Inside Unilever's Procurement Success Story W/ Ashish Dhongde

"It's still on us, as procurement professionals, to invest the right amount of time in building relationships and building our narrative." - Ashish Dhongde, Associate Director Procurement Beauty and Wellbeing North America, Unilever Unilever has built a notoriously well-integrated procurement program, and they are widely recognized for the strong partnership between procurement and the rest of the business. In this episode, Philip Ideson explores what procurement excellence looks like in practic...

Feb 24, 202529 min

779: Procurement 6 | February 21st, 2025

Procurement 6 is a short podcast from Art of Procurement that publishes in the Art of Procurement feed every Friday morning at 6am US Eastern Time. Presented by a member of the Art of Procurement team, each episode has 6 short segments that summarize the week in procurement. Segments range from procurement tips to podcast summaries, from details of events to news or overviews of blog posts that capture our attention.

Feb 21, 202511 min

BTW EP 02: Tales of Dysfunction (a.k.a. "Procurgatory")

Building off the previous discussion about "purposeful procurement," Philip Ideson, Kelly Barner, and Fine Tune CEO Rich Ham are back to take a bold, honest look at the systemic flaws that have all too often shaped procurement's behaviors and limited their impact. In this candid conversation, we share and discuss real-world examples about how current incentive structures elevate short-term thinking and less-than-exceptional outcomes, ignoring the huge potential procurement has to generate value....

Feb 19, 202537 min

BTW EP 01: Buy: The Way... To Purposeful Procurement

"Show me the incentive, and I will show you the outcome." Warren Buffet's vice chairman Charlie Munger's succinct and insightful take reminds us of the power of incentives—and provides a backdrop for this project. In this first episode of the "Buy: The Way…To Purposeful Procurement" podcast, produced collaboratively by the teams at Art of Procurement and Fine Tune, Fine Tune CEO Rich Ham, Philip Ideson, and Kelly Barner lay the groundwork for this year-long series of bi-weekly episodes featuring...

Feb 19, 202522 min

BTW EP 03: Oliver's List: Inspiring Tales of Purposeful Procurement with Oliver Hurrey

As Albert Einstein said, "We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them." After taking an honest look at some of procurement's most pressing challenges and flaws in episodes 1 and 2, Philip Ideson and Fine Tune CEO Rich Ham shift their focus from problem-spotting to solution-seeking with special guest, Oliver Hurrey, one of the world's foremost experts on purposeful procurement. Through his work on sustainability and decarbonization in the supply chain with the...

Feb 19, 202542 min

778: Business Waste - The Silent Value Killer W/ Pratik Patel

" I look at building a business case in terms of storytelling, and the story that you have to be able to tell in procurement is around better, faster, and cheaper ." – Pratik Patel, Director - Category Management - Labor/North America Technology Spend, Mastercard Understanding how to address skeptics, overcome objections, and communicate procurement's value will ultimately determine how much buy-in (and resources) procurement receives. This holds true whether you are building a business case to ...

Feb 17, 202542 min

777: Procurement 6 | February 14th, 2025

Procurement 6 is a short podcast from Art of Procurement that publishes in the Art of Procurement feed every Friday morning at 6am US Eastern Time. Presented by a member of the Art of Procurement team, each episode has 6 short segments that summarize the week in procurement. Segments range from procurement tips to podcast summaries, from details of events to news or overviews of blog posts that capture our attention.

Feb 14, 202510 min

776: Putting Stakeholder Priorities First W/ Ryan Bradford

" Instead of taking an inward look at your sourcing and procurement models, consider the easiest, simplest experience that you can provide to your internal customers ." – Ryan Bradford Procurement is in the midst of a transformative period, but at the heart of all this change is one thing that is always relevant: the customer experience. Procurement has traditionally done itself a disservice by approaching the source-to-pay process with their own goals, needs, or processes in mind. But, by takin...

Feb 10, 202534 min

775: Procurement 6 | February 7th, 2025

Procurement 6 is a short podcast from Art of Procurement that publishes in the Art of Procurement feed every Friday morning at 6am US Eastern Time. Presented by a member of the Art of Procurement team, each episode has 6 short segments that summarize the week in procurement. Segments range from procurement tips to podcast summaries, from details of events to news or overviews of blog posts that capture our attention.

Feb 07, 20258 min

774: Closing the 'Inspiration to Action' Gap W/ Remko Van Hoek

"Procurement is going to make a transformative leap. It may be in a year. It may be in three years. But it's going to happen. So start experimenting." – Remko Van Hoek, Full Professor of Practice SCM, Executive Director CSCMP Supply Chain Hall of Fame, hosted by Walton, University of Arkansas ­- Sam M. Walton College of Business It's time to make procurement fun again. That's what Remko Van Hoek, Full Professor of Practice SCM, Executive Director CSCMP Supply Chain Hall of Fame, hosted by Walton...

Feb 03, 202527 min

773: Procurement 6 | January 31st, 2025

Procurement 6 is a short podcast from Art of Procurement that publishes in the Art of Procurement feed every Friday morning at 6am US Eastern Time. Presented by a member of the Art of Procurement team, each episode has 6 short segments that summarize the week in procurement. Segments range from procurement tips to podcast summaries, from details of events to news or overviews of blog posts that capture our attention.

Jan 31, 202510 min

772: 2025 Outlook: Procurement's 'Year of Convergence' W/ Nick Heinzmann and Matthew Hardin

"We're in a new world where we're trying to converge all these different areas, not only to fix problems, but to drive different kinds of capabilities for procurement, ones that are not theoretically possible with the old approach." – Nick Heinzmann, Head of Research at Zip Procurement is continuously improving and maturing, but over the past few years, a series of distinct trends has gathered momentum. 2025 is looking more and more like the pivotal year when all of these trends will converge, t...

Jan 27, 202542 min
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