Born in Los Angeles in 1986, Sable Elyse Smith works across a variety of media, including photography, painting, and sculpture, to investigate the US prison-industrial complex and its role in and effects on society. Her work has been featured at numerous prestigious institutions including the Museum of Modern Art, New Museum, Guggenheim Museum, and ICA Boston - among many others. In 2022, she participated in the Whitney Biennial and the 59th Venice Biennale. Smith is a recipient of several disti...
May 08, 2025•41 min
This episode we are thrilled to be joined by the artist Jessica Rankin. Born in Sydney in 1971, Jessica is known for her vibrant and expansive exploration of the processes of memory, intuition, and interpretation. For the first part of her career, Jessica produced textile works that adopted methods historically identified with feminine pursuits—embroidery and needlework. She created works featuring 'mental maps' that combined word and image to highlight her ongoing project: a hybrid weaving of p...
Feb 01, 2025•42 min
This episode we are thrilled to welcome the inspiring artist Maia Ruth Lee. Maia Ruth Lee’s multidisciplinary practice is deeply informed by questions surrounding the self in times of dispersion, mobility, and rootlessness. Using translation as an apparatus, Lee transmutes her works between mediums—photography, video, painting, and sculpture—connecting themes of borders, community, and language with embodiments of carriers, loss, and self-preservation through process and materials. Born in Busan...
Dec 05, 2024•38 min
SPECIAL LIVE RECORDING AT NEW YORK'S ARMORY FAIR This panel looks towards the next generation of collectors, discussing strategies for navigating the shifting art market. Considering how emerging patrons are building lasting relationships with artists and institutions, this conversation will discuss the role of young collectors in redefining the landscape of cultural philanthropy. Featuring Will Palley and Amitha Raman , Co-Chairs of The Museum of Modern Art’s Young Patrons Council and hosts of ...
Oct 30, 2024•58 min
This episode we are thrilled to be talking with the incredible artist Nadya Tolokonnikova. Nadya is the creator of Pussy Riot, a global feminist art movement. In 2012 she was sentenced to 2 years' imprisonment following an anti-Putin performance Punk Prayer. Punk Prayer was named by The Guardian among the ‘best art pieces of the 21st century’. Tolokonnikova's Putin’s Ashes art installation at Jeffrey Deitch Gallery in January 2023 propelled her into a new criminal case and put on Russia’s most w...
Aug 31, 2024•32 min
This episode we are thrilled to be talking with the Brazilian born artist Alexandre da Cunha. Based between London and Sao Paulo, Ale has referred to his practice as ‘pointing’ as opposed to ‘making’. By ‘pointing’ at existing objects in plain sight, he highlights new and unexpected meanings within the objects he chooses. Grounded in material aesthetics, Ale creates monumentally scaled sculptures and playfully constructed wall-mounted work using metamorphosed everyday and found objects. Given th...
Jun 01, 2024•43 min
This episode, we are hugely excited to be joined by the artist Igshaan Adams. Born in Bonteheuwel, a suburb in Cape Town, South Africa in 1982, Igshaan draws upon his background to contest racial, sexual and religious boundaries. This intersectional topography remains visible throughout his practice. Speaking about his work, Igshaan has said: "I’m interested in the personal stories recorded on the surface. What is recorded is not necessarily always a factual account but can be what is imagined –...
Mar 04, 2024•57 min
This episode we are thrilled to be joined by the trailblazing artist Shahzia Sikander. Originally from Lahore, Pakistan; Sikander works across a variety of media including: paintings, video, and most recently, sculpture. She is best known for subverting Central and South-Asian manuscript painting traditions and launching the form known today as neo-miniature. Sikander earned a Bachelor of Fine Arts from the National College of Arts in Lahore; and a Master of Fine Arts from Rhode Island School of...
Jan 31, 2024•41 min
This episode we are thrilled to be joined by the artist P Staff. Born in Bognor Regis in the UK and now living and working between Los Angeles and London, P’s work draws from a wide-ranging assortment of inspirations, materials, and settings to emphasize the processes by which bodies – especially those of people who are queer, trans, or disabled – are controlled by society. P works across multiple media, including installation, film, and poetry. In their 2019 installation On Venus at the Serpent...
Jan 02, 2024•42 min
This episode we are hugely excited to be joined by the artist Tiona Nekkia McClodden! Tiona is a visual artist, filmmaker, and curator whose work explores and critiques issues at the intersections of race, gender, sexuality, and social commentary. Born in Blytheville, Arkansas and raised in Greenville, South Carolina, Tiona weaves narratives through archives, memories and objects, integral to her past and present, that shape her broader practice. In 2022, Tiona’s exhibitions at The Shed and 52 W...
Nov 01, 2023•50 min
SPECIAL BONUS EPISODE!! In this special episode, we host a conversation with artist John Edmonds and Guggenheim curator Dr. Ashley James and to discuss the Guggenheim's new exhibition, Going Dark: The Contemporary Figure at the Edge of Visibility. The exhibition presents works of art that feature partially obscured or hidden figures, thus positioning them at the “edge of visibility.” In this art context, the common phrase going dark is understood as a tactic whereby artists visually conceal the ...
Oct 26, 2023•55 min
Welcome to season 4 of Art from the Outside! This episode we are thrilled to kick off the season with the artist Zadie Xa. Born in Vancouver in 1983 and now based in London, Zadie has developed an expansive practice that addresses the nature of diasporic identities, global histories, familial legacies and interspecies communication. Working across painting, sculpture, textile production, and performance, she draws upon her Korean heritage as she seeks to elevate narratives that have been erased ...
Oct 13, 2023•37 min
This episode, we are thrilled to be joined by the visionary collector, philanthropist, Pamela Kramlich. Over the last 35 years, alongside her husband Richard Kramlich, Pamela has built one of the most distinguished and expansive collections of time-based media art. The collection, which includes over 200 works of film, video, slide, and installation, as well as more than 250 works of photography, sculpture, painting, and drawing is predominantly located in their home in Napa Valley California, w...
Jul 14, 2023•42 min
This episode we have the privilege of speaking with the legendary photographer and artist Ming Smith. During a career spanning almost six decades, Smith has documented everyday moments while pushing the limits of photography as a medium. Her distinct style combines a deliberate blurriness with experimental post-production techniques including double exposure, collage, and painting to amplify the works’ dream-like qualities. Well known for her in-action portraits of notable cultural icons - from ...
Mar 27, 2023•36 min
This episode we are excited to be joined the pioneering artist and activist Marilyn Minter. Minter deftly explores American culture’s pathology of glamor through painting, photography, and video works which focus primarily on the female body and its treatment in popular media. Well known for her meticulous technical mastery, Minter’s details often highlight natural corporeal qualities that are omitted in mass-media depictions of women, such as body hair and stretch marks. Born in Shreveport, Lou...
Feb 02, 2023•48 min
This episode, we are honored to be joined by the incredible, Turner Prize-nominated artist and filmmaker, Isaac Julien. Born in 1960 in London, Isaac is one of the leading artists working in film and video today. His 1989 film Looking for Langston garnered a cult following with this poetic exploration of Langston Hughes and the Harlem Renaissance. Over the past three decades he has made work using multi-screen installations to express fractured narratives exploring memory and desire. Earlier thi...
Dec 15, 2022•51 min
Welcome to Season 3 of Art from the Outside!!! To kick off Season 3, we speak with the brilliant artist, thinker, and healer Guadalupe Maravilla. Born in 1976 in El Salvador, and now based and working in Brooklyn, New York, Guadalupe received a BFA from the School of Visual Arts, and an MFA from Hunter College at the City University of New York. Guadalupe creates intricately layered paintings, sculptures and therapeutic performances that draw from his personal history and Central American ancest...
Nov 22, 2022•53 min
This episode we are so excited to be joined by a brilliant artist who we both greatly admire: Derrick Adams. Born in Baltimore, Maryland in 1970; Derrick's work spans painting, collage, sculpture, performance, video, and sound installations. His multidisciplinary practice engages the ways in which individuals’ ideals, aspirations, and personae become attached to specific objects, colors, textures, symbols, and ideologies. This April, Adams was awarded a $1.25 M. grant from the Andrew W. Mellon F...
May 10, 2022•47 min
This episode we are so excited to be chatting with the incredible artist Kahlil Robert Irving. Currently living and working in St. Louis, MO, Kahlil's work encompasses ceramics, sculpture, site-specific wallpaper, and other mediums to mine the archive of visual culture and explore notions of Blackness. In December 2021, Kahlil opened his first museum solo exhibition at the Museum of Modern Art in New York, titled Projects: Kahlil Robert Irving. His work has been exhibited at the Nerman Museum of...
Apr 21, 2022•55 min
This episode we are beyond thrilled to be joined by incredible artist Chitra Ganesh. Born and raised in Brooklyn and Queens, and currently based in Brooklyn, Chitra’s multi-disciplinary practice encompasses drawing, painting, animations, collages, and many more media to question and disrupt narratives around gender, sexuality, power, and identity. Anchored in the history of South Asia, her gorgeous and detailed works combine a vast array of influences including South Asian iconography, science f...
Feb 15, 2022•55 min
This episode, we are thrilled to be joined by brilliantly creative artist Barbara Kasten. Based in Chicago, Illinois, Barbara originally trained as a painter and textile artist at the University of Arizona (BFA), the California College of Arts & Crafts (MFA), before turning to photography in the early 1970s. Working for over 40 years, she frequently uses mirrors, lights, and props for conceptually-based pieces that explore notions of perception and reality, figuration and abstraction. Barbar...
Jan 12, 2022•50 min
WELCOME TO SEASON 2 OF ART FROM THE OUTSIDE!! We are so excited to kick off season two with the innovative artist Nari Ward! Originally from Jamaica; Ward works across a variety of media including: sculpture, installation, performance, photography and video. He is best known for his use of found-objects, such as baby strollers, cash registers and shoelaces, to compose sculptural installations that provoke complex thoughts regarding racism, poverty, and consumer culture. Ward earned a Bachelor of...
Dec 24, 2021•57 min
This episode, we are thrilled to be joined by the visionary Elizabeth Dee, Co-Founder and CEO of the Independent Art Fair. Conceived and initiated in 2009, the Independent has rapidly become one of the most important and influential art fairs globally and will be hosted at New York’s Battery Maritime Building in just a few weeks, from September 9th to September 12th. You can find more about the fair here . In addition to her role as Founder of the Independent, Elizabeth is a seasoned art world p...
Aug 25, 2021•47 min
This episode, we are delighted to be joined by the multi-disciplinary artist and dear friend Paul Maheke. Based in London but originally from France, Paul’s practice focused on dance but encompasses a collaborative body of work comprising performance, installation, sound and video. His work considers the potential of the body as an archive in order to examine how memory and identity is formed and constituted. Recent solo exhibitions include “A fire circle for a public hearing” at the Chisenhale ...
Jul 03, 2021•58 min
This episode, we are very fortunate to be joined by the fabulous Aaron Cezar. Aaron is the Director of the Delfina Foundation, a London-based artist residency program that, since its founding in 2007, has hosted over 300 artists from more than 70 countries. Some familiar alumni include Kevin Beasley, Rana Begum, Michael Rakowitz, Wael Shawky, and Eric N. Mack, just to name a few. Aaron is also an active curator and was somewhat of a trailblazer as the curator of the performance program at the 20...
May 27, 2021•53 min
This episode, we are extremely lucky to be joined by the pioneering artist, Phyllida Barlow. We talk about her early memories of the art world, how she continues to evolve her practice, what it's like to be a working artist and a parent, getting a CBE, and much more! Originally from Newcastle upon Tyne in England, Phyllida works across media including painting, sculpture, and drawing. She is known for using materials such as plaster, cement and scrim to turn the conventions of sculpture on its h...
May 06, 2021•1 hr 1 min
This episode we are thrilled to be joined by an amazing gallerist - and friend - Jessica Silverman. Jessica founded her namesake gallery in 2008 in San Francisco’s Tenderloin district; after completing a Bachelor of Fine Arts in Studio Art at Otis College in Los Angeles and a Master of Arts in Curatorial Practice at the California College of the Arts in San Francisco. Since then, the gallery has moved to a newly renovated space in the city’s Chinatown neighborhood, with an impressive roster of a...
Apr 06, 2021•46 min
This episode we are hugely excited to be joined by the definition defying artist Dayanita Singh. Based in New Delhi, India, Dayanita started taking photographs in the early 1980s, soon expanding into photojournalism. Her practice has grown to span photography, bookmaking, installations, and perhaps most famously since 2012, museum directing. Her work has been presented at the Hayward Gallery in London, the Art Institute of Chicago, the Museum für Moderne Kunst, Frankfurt, the Kiran Nadar Museum ...
Mar 17, 2021•50 min
This episode, we are very lucky to speak with the visionary collector, philanthropist, and our personal art world hero, Pamela Joyner. Based in San Francisco, California, Pamela is a true champion for artists of African descent. Together with her husband Fred Giuffrida, she has built one of the world’s leading collections of artworks by Black and African diaspora artists, including deep holdings of works by artists including Alma Thomas, Mark Bradford, Jack Whitten, and Sam Gilliam - among many ...
Feb 12, 2021•1 hr 5 min
In this episode we speak with the inspiring and brilliant artist, Jeffrey Gibson. Jeffrey Gibson’s practice combines the cultural and artistic traditions of his Cherokee and Choctaw heritage with the visual languages of Modernism and themes from contemporary popular culture. Born in Colorado Springs, CO in 1972, Gibson grew up in urban centers in the United States, Germany, Korea, and England; which helped to influence his cross-cultural aesthetic. He earned a Bachelor of Fine Arts at the School...
Jan 26, 2021•1 hr 3 min
