This is the Art Beauty podcast, where we are always reaching for truth in beauty. Remember the brands, the people on the show are not paying to be here. So we get to ask them the questions we know you want answered because you deserve to be informed so that you can make the best choices for yourself. With that said, I'm Amber Milt, and today my fabulous co-host is Gigi Howard. She is the founder of SiO Beauty. You've seen their patches, you know their patches.
We're going to be talking all about them today and her new skincare line. But before we get into that, how's it going? Gigi, welcome to the show. Thank you so much. I'm so excited to be on the show. Thank you for asking me. Yes, things are going well and you got it cold here. Love in the weather. Skin strikes, it moisturize, everybody. So it's going great. Is it that you know, it's this time of year?
I find that like it's just can be so it's you know, there's like 4 hours of daylight between the heat, the dry heat, like you just kind of wake up. Everything's just like. Well, you know, it's truth to something called sad seasonal affective disorder. And I have it. They say. Have you ever tried any of those, like, daylight lamps? I have one right behind me. Does it work? 100%. I had it only yesterday. And you don't have to look right into it. It's brown.
I got it on Amazon and it can be like in your peripheral because I really already have issues with depression. You had a child and had postpartum and it just never left. And I'm on medication, but sometimes during these months I need help. And so my psychiatrist told me and I read about it, that, you know, it really lift you up. And I just pulled it out and used it. And I'm like, the next day I wasn't feeling great. It's crazy. It really works. And isn't that sad?
They say it's sad. You know, seasonal affective disorder. It's it's real. It is. And I don't care if you are diagnosed with depression or not. It's real. It is real. I mean, listen, you know, also, depending on where you live, I was visiting my family in Florida. It stays lighter there an hour later. Plus, you walk outside and it's warm right here. I love New York. I'm not, you know, pooping on New York, but it's cold. It's dark. And that's why I gained a few pounds every winter.
And I don't care because I love sitting on the couch. And then, you know, I don't go out that much during the winter. And I sit, you know, with my ten year old and we sit on the couch and order Domino's Pizza. I love Domino's, but do you do the thin crust? I get at them at. All right. Thin crust extravaganza. nice job with sausage peps thin crust all the way. And you know what?
People laugh at me because you live in New York and and I introduce to my New Yorker friends and they're like, wow, it's really good. So anyway. Yeah, I know we won't go to that, but just a quick little thing too. I know I grew up in New York, born bred. When I met my husband, he's like Domino's. And I was like, how could you? We live in New York. The best beans in the world. Let me tell you, there is a place for Domino's and also cheesy bread is life like. wow. No, but you have to do this.
You know, I'm Southern. We like ranch dressing. We have ranch here and we dip it. God, I love it. my God. I love my Southern belles. So, Gigi, you know, we're talking about dryness, We're talking about skin. And I just. I know your brand is an award winning brand. People know I work with new beauties. You want even you beauty awards. I know you got some Oprah Awards this year. I want to talk a little bit about these patches because I think the people have seen them.
But I don't know if they know necessarily sort of the scientific reason and purpose for them. But you have a great story of how you even came up with these in the first place. Can you share that with us? Absolutely. I'll tell you my age now, I'm 53. When I was 25, I started getting these creases on my décolletage your chest and caused from side sleeping. Yeah. And the side sleeper. Yeah, Yeah, me too. And Amardeep Sager and I love sleep.
Sleep is like my hobby and I did everything to not, you know, go outside, sleep and I would use pillows but it just didn't work. Can't it can't work. I use masking tape one time to try and it because I had this I had in my hand, if I had something that would stick, it would fold with the skin so it wouldn't create a crease. Now, can I ask it? Would you like a confession? As a Southern girl, did you spend a lot of time outside? yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I. I mean, when.
When I was 15, 16, 17, we were using, like what? Olive oil. Not olive oil, baby oil. And those reflectors I had, like, they're really bad. Yeah. Eighties. I was the same. Like, you know, that doesn't help. So, but also side sleeping even if you don't have skin damage because you're sleeping on your side and it just naturally creases and I don't care if you flat chested or you have big boobs I don't care.
It's still it it happens. So I just tried everything and then I became a bit insecure because it was so visible and they came worse and worse. But I'd wake up with them and then they would dissipate over time. Right During the day? Yeah. Then every time they wouldn't leave and they became worse and worse. So I wore turtlenecks and weird turtleneck. Just because it's so cold here right now are scarves because it just didn't make sense.
Because I had these creases here and I had no wrinkles on my face. 2567, you know, even 30. I didn't I really didn't have wrinkles yet. And then I was like, I need to come up. I need to figure out something. So I was in Georgia visiting and I went to my O.B. and she had some medical grade silicone close to his like on the on the desk. And I was like, you know, Andrew Sullivan, what is what is what is that? And he told me medical grade silicone.
He uses it for women, mothers that have this, the cesarean section help with scarring. And I'm like, can I can I use some of that? So that night I went home and I went home and that night I put a piece of silicone on half of my chest and let the other bear woke up the next morning, peeled the silicone off and it zero wrinkles. Yeah, I'm like wrinkles here and then here, like, I like to zero in the middle. Like, it was so crazy.
And I turn off going around and I took a picture and I'm like, freaking out. I'm running around like I found something. This is great. This is great. But I wasn't thinking about bring anything to the market. I was thinking, this is great. I need to get more of the silicone from from Donna Sullivan because they don't sell it in the in the pharmacies or anything like that. So I went back to them and I got a bunch and just was so happy again.
I wasn't thinking about, let me, you know, make this and put it on the market and sell it. So that lasted for a while, but it was uncomfortable. Yeah, because it's thicker and it has the edges. So one day I was thinking, what if I make it where it will look like skin and feel like skin when you're sleeping so it's not so noticeable if you're sleeping with your husband, partner or whomever. And but you know, make it kind of a nude clear type thing.
And so and to where you can't feel it again feel like skin look like skin. So I have the neck patches here. Right. And now you went through a lot of prototypes of tenderness. These 180. And what were the first ones that you came out with? Okay, this is the first one. The neck came back. I came out a couple of years later out with this and let me pull it off. So it's easier for you to see the shape, the chest. Okay. I won't put the chest on with you, and that's why I actually wear this outfit.
So, yeah, I've got it. You peel. I'm glad you. You didn't wear a turtleneck. Yeah, I'll put it on, so. Okay, so. So when we get this here, we peel this off. There's a whole layers here, and it goes. Which side down. The larger part? Upright. yeah. So this. So I'm just going to stick it. sorry. Everybody getting a little, getting a little, getting a little friendly here. Politics. So there's two. There's two. Got it. So I peel off this first layer and this is what goes down the sticky side.
Got a sticky side, pull it all the way out, and then you have the top part to peel off. Not going to brown, but yeah, there you go. You haven't peel the top part, but that's okay right now. You flat out. Get it in here. There's no got to get that part of where there's no. Yeah. Bubbles. So I, I it was like 184 prototypes because every time we. Get in a little cleavage here but. Yeah, No, it's okay. Yeah, it's. Great. And this is exactly the area when you're in. It's so comfortable.
Yeah. So it's not possible that I walked into SoulCycle, woke up that morning, put my, my clothes on for SoulCycle and just was start. I just didn't realize that I took my T-shirt off. I had my sports bra on and I had it on like I just peeled it off, put around my water bottle. I wanted it to be that comfortable. Yeah. So but it took a while because I would get prototyped and it was uncomfortable or the shape wasn't right. But most mostly it was the comfort, right?
Because you're not going to sleep with something overnight if it's not comfortable and you can feel it. Absolutely not. No. By the way, just as like a little aside here, because I'm married, a married now together with my husband. 14 years, married for ten lately at night. He's such a good sport. I've been wearing this red light mask. It's only 3 minutes, but I put it on in bed and, like, he'll walk in and I just laugh last night listening to him.
You probably weren't expecting this when you married me because it's a green mass with red light. I mean, he's like, You look like Doctor Doom. Yeah, I just laugh. You know? Listen, ladies, after a certain point, whatever it takes, we got to do, You know, I got the mouthguard in because I bite my teeth. I'm going to my patches on, like they don't care. And I asked him, I was like, Do you really care? And he's like, Absolutely not. I love you so much. Right? They do not care.
That when you're in bed, they don't care about anything who they care about. So okay. So so how soon now I'm showing some of these here because you really have evolved this now into a number of different specific patches. These are reusable, correct? Your reusable up to ten times, but listen, I've used mine up to like 13, 14 times. You know, on the average for me, you just have to take care of them. You put them back on, it's slip. Yeah, use it. And here I pulled it off the thing.
This is the actual neck. You're going to take the sticky side off. Yeah. And then we're going to put it here, and I see the top there. My feeling is that. Yeah, you know, that's a great when people love it. I don't use it. I don't have the wrinkles right here and it takes a minute to get used to it. But the difference even like my, my young target group that the kids that I speak to that, you know, like they're 20, 25 because it's like, what is technique?
They're looking down. Yeah. You're like, we're even during the day, we're in our we're not. If I had a turtle, that kind you couldn't see and look, I mean, the chest one. You really couldn't get there in the winter. I'll use my chest, but I don't have to really, because I use it all night. Yeah, but some people prefer maybe they don't want to wear it all night, but I'll just tell them where to a couple hours during the day. You're vacuuming him, washing the dishes. I mean it. You just.
So you're beauty in difference. Yeah. You know. This. I'm super excited about. I'm not going to put the face ones on because I have makeup. So ideally you want to put these on clean skin. Clean skin because you don't want to agitate the skin because you're listen with a medical grade silicone and, you know, medical grade came out not 50, 80 years ago to help prevent scarring or helps with scarring and burn victims.
So what it does is it creates a, you know, here's your skin, here's the patch and this part that and it creates a microclimate right here. So is super moisture like is is created under it is like trapped in there. So you don't want to have you know, let's say you have something with chronic acid. You don't want to have that. You don't look irritated, must put it on clean plain skin must okay.
And like you said, though, because it's creating that microclimate, we're going to be getting hydration in these areas. So the brow I smile lines here, we don't need to worry for somebody, you know, like you and I said at the beginning of this podcast with dry skin, it's going to help add that hydration 100. Percent and one. Very comfortable. The neck one is great now.
Yeah, it's very you know but sometimes it takes a little bit but you're so you get used to that neck and I'm I'm just being honest but it's one of our top sellers there's there's a getting used to minute because it's the before and afters are ridiculous before and afters on all of our patches are pretty spectacular and I think that's why we sort of went viral and and just people caught on to our patches because we were the first ones to be in this space and there was nothing like it out there.
Right. But it took a bit of like took a bit of time to get people to understand what is this? Why is it 49, 99 and you put it on for, you know, 15 minutes because there's all these other mask we're patches mass that, you know, you put on and you just take them off. But they look similar. So I. Let people realize these are medical grade silicone and you don't throw them away. Right. And they're meant to be usable.
Are all of these meant to be used as theoretically, you could wear them in the day, but they were really designed to be used overnight. Overnight? Absolutely. Okay. But and people, you know, would write in I use these during the day. You know, I wore them under my shirt or, you know, just, you know, sometimes in public, you know what, I've been on airplanes and I wear mine, but I don't want anybody thing. You, you know, I'll wear it.
And even my son Southworth who's ten I might I said this was last last night things at Christmas for Thanksgiving He goes he goes, Mom, you're going to wear those. I said, Yeah, Are they going to embarrass you? You guys know, but you're the founder. The founder. And I'm like, just now, just to just be so proud and so proud. Of course.
Now, you know, you mentioned so these are meant to be used really up to ten times 13, depending on how you take care of them and what is the proper way to care for them. So we wear them overnight in the morning. You take this off. It's an it's a and then what do we rinse them with? Water. You hold this backing? Not quite yet. What you're going to do is you're just going to put it on wear for, you know, a few times.
And then and then when you find that the adhesive is getting a little weaker, then you just put it under warm water. Okay. This week you can use a mild. So I don't just use a little if it's dirty. Now, but I don't I keep my clean. Yeah, there's a little dirt or something then you use a little mild. So your cleanser, whatever cleanser you have for your face and then it will bring back some of that adhesive. And like it's sticking right back here. I mean it's pouch.
I'll wear mine and I mean, I wear mine more than I don't know. I can wear mine up to 15 times. But see, I don't like to waste anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm very like I'll, I'll use it until it's about to tear. Right. Decent hair, you know. You'll use it until it definitely can't be using more, you know. So we talked a little bit about what that benefit of silicone is. Let's talk a little bit about some of the results that you're seeing.
So is this something that is like sort of temporary results? Are there any long term benefits to this? But okay, Well, you can put on a patch of ours, whether it's the face or the dark look and wear it an hour or 2 hours. I mean, let's stick with 2 hours and you will see some difference. But it's so astonishing the before and afters to where people kind of don't believe it. Like when I launched this one Decourcy Patch and we did a launch on HSN, which was so super scary for me.
And I did that and we had the before and after. We didn't do so well. First of all, nobody understood medical grade silicone. It was probably too soon to go on there. This is eight years ago, and they just didn't believe the foreign actors. And you know, when you're on a show like that, you have to it has to be proven the before and afters. So it is so exciting that we you can see it so quickly. Yeah. So it's preventative.
So if you have a couple of wrinkles here and you start off with, say, if I had it when I was 25 and started seeing them, I would have never, ever had more creases if I was using it right. And but it has. So that's a preventative. And then when I came out with this and using it over time, I barely have a crease. Right. Because I have and this has happened a few times. If I had too much wine or a couple martinis and I forgot it and I'd wake up, yeah, I'd have a couple, but I wouldn't care.
I'd like flap it on that day or just slap it back on that night. So it's quite it's really cool. It's really cool. It's amazing. I love how passionate you are about this and you've built quite a cult following through this products. Yeah, I mean, and like I said, it was at the Duke that just won Oprah. Which one just won Oprah's award. We have we have the mid Brow, which is in the front row, but we have like three or four that that Oprah Awards, which I'm very proud and very proud of.
New Beauty. Yes. I'm super psyched about the lip one because, you know, I'm starting to notice from all of those blowing kisses to everybody and all the smiling that I do, you start to notice those little feather lip lines and nobody wants that. I don't want to do filler. So that's going to be a huge one. I'm excited to try that. That's a really good one, too. So it just depends. You know, some people, they just only need, you know, the I use it every single night. I'm not afraid of Botox.
I'm not 90 bit. I'm 53. Do I have a lot of wrinkles? No, it's hereditary. I don't. Do I believe in living like that? Absolutely not. I don't have to endure. I do. I think wrinkles are fine, actually. You know, you got to have some wrinkles. It's a sign of life and living. Sign of a great life. My mother always said that she's like, I don't I'm not embarrassed about, you know, the beautiful creases that I've developed from years of smiling and laughing and all those memories.
I want to make sure we have time, though, to address, because I know this is brand new for you. So the patches have been around for how long now? Eight years. Eight years. Okay. Proven success. I know you've kind of following like you said you were saying before, the before and afters are incredible. Let's talk about your skincare line because what was this? I know this is a newer launch for you. What made you decide, okay, we've got these patches.
I want to have a skincare line to go along with it. This is what made me decide. First of all, I was a public relations director for a very high end beauty brand, which I love, actually. Can I tell? Say yeah, yeah deter because I love. We Natera. I Yes and that's one of my favorite favorite brands. And I'll just say quickly, because deter be said, they actually have active ingredients that actually work.
It's just not the the the cream There's actually yummy stuff in there like you know some brands sell for you know, $300 for cream might have one active. They have like ten actives. I just like they're honest, they're great. So I worked with them and great fun. And so I never thought, okay, I was going to start my own care skin care line. But we did the body. We did the patch and we did the face this.
And I thought, you know, we need to add something to just kind of follow up with it, but then let them be Gigi's favorite products. Let's not do this step, this step, this step, this step. Nor do I believe that, nor do I believe that, you know, when someone says this moisturizer is going to get rid of your creams, I mean your creases or wrinkles, now it 100%. Why don't you lose it? Yeah. Yeah. We see this all the time.
You're not going to get what you are in a bottle, which you are from a needle. What you'll get from going under the knife. You have to manage expectations, however, and notably say has been on here before.
There are brands that certainly put in a lot of research and development and you will notice a difference, but it might not be the different, you know, the game changing difference that you're going to get from a cream is not going to be the same as like going under the knife or getting a laser. Yeah, yeah. So I do want to talk about. Yeah, this neck and neck cream though, because I have to say how juicy and delicious. Yeah, I was. Yeah, that's great.
This is one of my favorites, but I actually want it comes for my body cream. That is like one of our top sellers that we came out with. I wanted it to feel the same exact, but different ingredients in like, you know, with vitamin C and running acid and, you know, the vitamin C brightens it and it's just feels really good. So we have the neck, we have the patch for the chest, and that's just something you put on the morning just to kind of help with extending those results. Not it.
So again, when you were wearing these patches, you want to put them on to clean skin. So these aren't meant to be used to kind of lock in. You want to do the neck patch at night and then in the morning. By the way, I just was rubbing this into my neck. It feels so smooth. If you're somebody who likes to get like a little neck or back massage. You know, I use it on my face to. yeah, it's gorge. A lot. Of like it's not at all greasy.
I don't know if you can see this. It has like a beautiful finish. Where you something Kiehl's, which is a brand that I really love. You know, you remember there are cream décor you may still use. Of course I wanted something because of so obsessed. I use it for 20 years and I thought, You know what? I want to do my favorite products and if I'm going to do it, I want it similar to the body. I want it similar to Kiehl's, where it feels that great and it's just as yummy.
I'm not copying their ingredients. I'm not doing anything. But, you know, I wanted something that was that great. And I spent what, couple of years trying to get the right just tons of body creams. And there are difference there. You get some that are drier. So for this, that and I wanted to cover every bit of it of like whether you have dry skin or not, you know, and it's going to be good for all skin types. So I was very proud of this product. And then I just did find products that I like.
But you know, this the the cryo. Like in this tool is just like a little cranial tool. Medical grade. So since we are right here. Nice. Fertile grade still, I designed it in Italy and it made in Italy and it stays 70 degrees cold. So it helps with the plumping of your skin. I mean, there's just such a difference. And then like lymphatic drainage. And then you can either do this. People love this because of the way it feels, the shape.
Take it in your on the airplane, put it in your put in your bag. But people tell me they always have it right next to their bed. You wake up, they can do it. I'm so super proud of this. It's just is wonderful. Do you have that? I don't have one. I've never tried this. But, you know, I got to see to.
I bet you know, it's funny, before we got on here and I hope I'm not like we were talking a little bit about menopause, perimenopause, all the things I bet for women who have to deal with hot flashes, if you put that in the fridge, that would feel lovely. you just gave me an idea that last night and the past week, and I'm not sleeping. You just. That's a great idea. You don't want to put it in the freezer? No, no, no, no. Because it will get to your radar or the skin.
Food writer is a medical grade steel, and it does stay at a certain temperature. Okay. Yeah. Now I'm going to keep. Yeah, I'm going to You're going to. Keep doing it. And then I will say this, too, because facial cleansers are so particular. So just for anybody who was wondering about this, this is a facial cleanser, very hydrating. So again, this time of year, I found that this was so gentle.
My skin not a foamy it doesn't like it that so like that kind of like a foamy thing but just really feels like a beautiful gentle removal and then the multi face and body scrub. Okay, this. Is a big brand. That's where that came from because I'm obsessed with anything that was micro abrasion that you would put on your face.
And when you finish your face that little pink like little bit because yeah, exfoliate and I wanted to get it to where it's not rough on your skin but you feel it's like it's like sort upset, you know the soft sand very soft. So if you are somebody who is like, I get nervous because of that super sensitive skin, it's going to be gritty, it's going to be harsh, it's abrasive. It's not I mean, you can barely feel the abrasion in here, but you definitely you can.
But it's not it's not for everybody else, is it? Paloma Beads, what do you know? Is it jojoba and it bleeds? Yes. And it just it like melts when you use it. And it just just you put it on and then you feel the scrub and then it just melts, melts away. I loved that one. It's one of my favorite. And the cleanser is my favorite because I just thought, you know, the cleanser, let's make it simple. You know, you can spend so much money on cleansers when you don't need to.
And you know, there's a brand like Cetaphil who I love. Yeah, I love Set. It felt like a set of gel. Love. Love and survey. And survey baths. Both, both, both. And I'm always, you know, people listen there's great they have so much the great products are your products I don't let their I have SiO, Cereve or cetaphil I love it simple I love the price point. You don't need to pay more than this because it just works. It's got great audience.
You're bringing in something so great and I think it's nice and I love having founders on my while of not doing a sponsored podcast right, is because we can have these conversations where it's not just like my where my brand, my friend, by the way, this neck thing is just to die for the neck cream is like my skin just feels gorge. You can have all but. But you know, skin care is so personal and people always come to me, what's the brand? What should I use?
And I'm like, You have to use the one that you're actually going to use. And as dumb as that sounds or as simple as that sounds, you know, you could have and I've tried $700 skincare serums and I've tried $6 skincare serums. Have I seen a huge noticeable difference between the two? And to be honest, sometimes not really. That said, texture scent the way it feels. If you're having a moment. Look, we know noteworthy say that costs a pretty penny. I just got my hands on the diamond life infusion.
It was gifted to me. I don't have that one. Maybe I should give them a call, but no. It's very. But I put it on at night. It is a moment. It smells it. You know, it's a it's a serum that it it's just a moment that I have with that lavender scent. And I kind of I'm like. Yeah. Now if you're going to spend money you want to spend the turbo say are revive. Repeat is another great brand.
But let me tell you that brands like I always say survey Olay, they do so much R&D and there are beautiful products that you don't have to spend a lot of money on that you can get great and then your your brand. So so can you run us through because I feel like these are very affordable. What are the what are the price points for most of these? Well, are we talking about the patches? Well, let's. Start. So the patches range from.
This is like 75. Okay, So the neck cream, which is 75 and you so I used just I mean, this has to last a long time. Yeah. Yeah. And it will. You don't need that much at all. Yeah. We saw like, I mean, like this here, I think we're what, 39, 99. I am so bad with prices. With so many. So many. my. Gosh. I forget the most important thing. so bad.
I made sure to mentioned at the beginning you are offering our listeners an exclusive discount, so I'm going to put the code and the details for that in the show notes because yeah, I think it's 25% off, which is so generous.
Thank you for. That. So yeah, so we will be putting that in because I got to tell you, you know, if you're somebody who is a side sleeper, if you're starting to notice this and it doesn't matter what age, you know, I know a lot of women, you know, my mom's friends who are like, I don't want to wear these low cut tops anymore. And maybe this can just kind of give you that confidence again, the one able to do that.
I pulled out clothes that I had for sitting there because and I have to say this, it was embarrassing. And, you know, the reason why I launched it is because I started seeing women with like wrinkles here. And their face was so perfect because they had the injectables. What a plastic surgery. And I'm like, it just didn't match. Yeah, that, that that's when I was like, well, I'm not the only one with this issue. And you know what? Let me tell you something.
When you meet men, they look right down there and see because they look at it something else. So if they see in you, it's like when I was 30, I looked, you know, 30 here. But I looked, you know, you know, 60 here, wait 60 here and 30 here because I had the wrinkles. Yeah, Yeah. Is it, is it it's just a confidence builder and it's so affordable. Are price points affordable? I'm not going to put anything on the market out there that, you know, I want to hit the mass.
Yeah. So majority of our products are very affordable. And you know when you have something like this and you are able to use it for your eyes and you're able to do this, you don't have to have injectables. You just don't. And if you do they will extend hands down, you won't have to go with something as much as you go. You know, I never because I do it. I, I love it. And I want to thank you so much for being here at today's spending time.
I think people can tell that you are just like such a so much fun. You are a great person to go out and get a cocktail, ask. Me to come in. I'm over a long, long break and I'm now my skills a bit. So let's go. my gosh, you're open. Ready for it? 2024. So if people want to know more about Sio, if they want to purchase this, where's the best place for them to go? They can go to Sio on our site. Sio Beauty, Amazon. We're in 101 different countries. We're Blue Mercury, the list goes on.
But yeah, go, go Amazon or see a beauty. Go. And remember. If you go to Sio Beauty right now, we are going to have an excellent discount. I believe it's ARTBEAUTY25 but I want to confirm that will have the details in the show notes. Also, if you haven't signed up for email newsletter, do so because I include a lot of these. I include a lot of these discounts in the newsletter as well with links right to that.
I only email once a week just to keep you abreast of our favorite shows, our favorite guests. I want to thank you, GiGi Thank you so much for being on. I really appreciate you spending some time here with us today. So fun and so sweet and thank thank you for making it so comfortable because I don't normally do these. and speaking of comfortable loving this, I am wearing this, so I might leave it on for the rest of the day, to be honest, because, you know, I am a side sleeper.
Listen, if you've got questions at home, you want me to pass to Gigi or any of the fabulous Sio team, let me know. I'm always happy to do so. You can email me at hello@artbeautypocast.com. You can find us on Facebook, Instagram and YouTube @ArtBeautyPodcast. And as always, we will see you next Tuesday. Maybe I was going to try to do a little play on Sio. We will see you next Tuesday. Hopefully feel a little more smoother and comfortable. Hi. Hi. All right.