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Around The Way Curls

Antoinette Lee & Shanti Mayersart19.com

Rooted in friendship, humor, and self-actualization, Shanti and Antoinette are a differing, but dynamic duo who explore both the profound and the profane because #DualityIsAThing.


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Episodes

Ep 343. Should I Choose Passion or Duty?

In this week's episode, Shanti shares her growing obsession for Jerrod Carmichael and Willow Smith while Antoinette finishes her Walking Dead Era and seeks a new TV series to watch. For our main topic, we are inspired by a listener's call. We discuss the dilemma of choosing between passion and duty in one's life. Together we explore the logistical details of managing both and the sacrifices that come with it. We discuss the concept of safety and how it relates to financial security and personal ...

Apr 18, 20241 hr 14 min

Ep 342. Banning Biracials from Rap Beef

In this week's episode, Shanti shares her current condition of "badmouth" while Antoinette corrects her mistake from last week. Together we recap our trip to Canada and our ATWC meet up. For politics we discuss the recent ruling by the Arizona Supreme Court that upholds a near-total abortion ban in the state and the bird-flu epidemic amongst birds and now mammals. For pop-culture we discuss, the beef between Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole, and Drake, and the accomplishments of basketball coach Dawn Sta...

Apr 15, 20241 hr 46 min

Ep 341. The Biology of Dating

In this week's episode, Shanti shares her discovery of a dating coach on TikTok which inspires her deep dive into the biology of falling in love for men and women. The conversation explores the different stages of love and attraction, highlighting the role of hormones in bonding and attachment. Lust, attraction, and attachment are discussed as distinct phases, each driven by specific chemicals in the brain. Can we make better choices about love if we understand our biology? Join us... VOTE FOR C...

Apr 11, 202459 min

Ep 340. Emmanuel & Angel, Jerrod & Tyler, Conjoined Sisters & Beyonce

In this week's episode, Shanti asks for hair help from the community while Antoinette requests your votes for her podcast "Can't Afford Therapy" for The Webby Awards. For politics, we discuss the recent killing of 7 aid workers in Gaza by Israel's IDF, the selling of Bibles by Trump, and the new abortion law in Florida. For pop culture, we react to the premiere of Jerrod Carmichael's reality show and the complexities of relationships and unrequited love. The conversation takes a humorous turn wh...

Apr 08, 20241 hr 37 min

Ep 339. The Period Doctor ft: Dr. Charis Chambers

In this week's episode, we are excited to be in conversation with pediatric and adolescent GYN, Dr. Charis Chambers. Together, we discuss the importance of our reproductive health and the factors that contribute to misdiagnosis. She also provides invaluable guidance on guiding adolescent girls through puberty and addresses the disconnection and trauma that some women may feel toward their bodies. In this episode, we are invited to become more knowledgeable and proactive rather than reactive abou...

Apr 04, 20241 hr 42 min

Ep 338. Candace, Diddy… Good Times?

Forgive us. Antoinette's has serious technical difficulties which is why her audio sounds a but... tricky In this week's episode, Shanti tries to keep her head above water as she juggles motherhood and other responsibilities while Antoinette recovers from a medical procedure she was not expecting to be as painful as it was. For politics, we discuss Candace Owens by diving deep into her history and what influenced her controversial beliefs. We question the responsibility of Black media outlets wh...

Apr 01, 20241 hr 54 min

Ep 337. Food is Not Our Enemy ft: Dr. Kelli Ruglass

In this episode, Shanti recalls stealing hoagies from the corner store & childhood eating habits while Antoinette readies herself for an upcoming GYN visit. The ladies answer voicemails that range from The Roots Picnic attendance to dealing with a friend's infidelity. For our main topic, we are joined by Dr. Kelli Ruglass. Dr. Kelly, a licensed clinical psychologist and certified eating disorder specialist, discusses the prevalence and impact of eating disorders, particularly among Black and...

Mar 28, 20241 hr 41 min

Ep 336. Joni in Blackface, Amanda Seales Blacklisted, Badu Beefing w/ Beyonce

In this week's episode, we discuss our upcoming trip to Canada! We are looking for suggestions of where to have a meetup so please feel free to share recommendations! Antoinette shares her fear of Apple's AirPods, and the controversial history of Joni Mitchell. For politics, we get into Texas law on immigration and the threat to unions by major corporations. For pop culture, we delve into Amanda Seales' experience of not being recognized in black spaces and question whether there is a beef betwe...

Mar 25, 20241 hr 46 min

Ep 335. Are You Ready For The Good Guy?

In this week's episode, Shanti doesn't eat meat for a week and now considers herself a vegan while Antoinette continues her dissociative streak to manage her overload. For our main topic, we delve into the concept of "nice guys". Are we truly ready for the "nice guy"? Are we ready for the ways our identities may have to change once we are no longer identifying with struggle and rejection? Are we ready to begin the work of real self-worth when we finally get what we want in relationships? Join us...

Mar 21, 20241 hr 17 min

Ep 334. Biden, Boeing, Regina, & Shaun “Kaseem” King

In this week's episode, Shanti shares her misadventures in New York while Antoinette tries to recover from the violation of having her food stolen by her Super. For politics, we review the recent State of the Union address, the Boeing whistleblower and corporate power, the battle over TikTok and censorship, the Nigerian kidnappings, and the crisis in Haiti. For pop culture, we discuss the Oscars, representation of Black culture in film, and Regina King's interview where she addresses her son's s...

Mar 18, 20241 hr 45 min

Ep 333. Pray for Peace or Prove Your Point?

In this week's episode, Shanti puts herself in harm's way for fried chicken while Antoinette does her best to talk Shanti off the ledge as she navigates her single life. After listening to voicemails, we delve into our main topic: We discuss the role our egos play when it comes to self-defense. When should we ignore untruths vs fighting back to set the record straight? How do we navigate the complexities of personal and public perceptions? Controlling our own narrative is everything right? But i...

Mar 14, 20241 hr 17 min

Ep 332. This Ish Ain’t No Joke

In this week's episode, Shanti discusses aging without much grace and how she has been exploring aesthetics and personal style and its connection to emotional well-being while Antoinette's updates are deeply connected to the current political climate and her growing concerns. For politics, we review the past week's Super Tuesday and the relevancy of the growing "uncommitted vote" in Michigan as a form of protest. For pop culture, we applaud Michelle from Destiny's Child going viral in an Uber co...

Mar 11, 20241 hr 31 min

Ep 331. I Rise to the Occasion, Occasionally

In this episode, Shanti discusses a week of emotional distancing and self-soothing while Antoinette shares the importance of receiving and giving constructive criticism. For this episode, we catch up on voicemails from listeners who delve into topics of queerness and polyamory and share personal experiences in making decisions about discarding frozen embryos. To end the episode together we watch and share our reaction to Mea Culpa's sex scene. Join us... Contact us: Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Disco...

Mar 07, 20241 hr 6 min

Ep 330. Diddy, Big Backs, Insurrection or Erection? Ft. Monty

In this week's episode, we are joined by Monty our beloved audio editor of the podcast! For updates, Shanti shares her sexual revelation about coffee while Antoinette manages a busy week and Monty prepares for his coming birthday. Together we discuss the self-immolation and act of protest of Aaron Bushnell, Trump's immunity claim and Mitch McConnell's recent retirement announcement. For pop culture, we delve into the "Big Back" controversy surrounding Ressa Tessa. The conversation touches on the...

Mar 04, 20241 hr 58 min

Ep 329. Can Everyone Be Restored? Ft. Marquise Richards

In this week's conversation, we are joined by podcaster and educator Marquise Richards. Together, we discuss restorative justice. We explore the challenges and criticisms of restorative justice, including the role of the harmed and the perpetrator in the restoration process. We question the impact of social media and how cancel culture may not always lead to true accountability and change. Using Chris Brown and Monique as examples we wrestle with the importance of understanding the root causes o...

Feb 29, 20241 hr 21 min

Ep 328. Trumpman 1s, Wendy Williams + Who TF Did I Marry?

In this week's episode, Shanti shares a recent gym mishap, while Antoinette updates us on the health of her beloved cat, Blue. For politics, we discuss the Alabama State Supreme Court's ruling on embryos being children, a nonbinary teen killed in Oklahoma, and Trump's recent release of sneakers that sold out in Philly. For pop culture, we talk about Beyoncé's new haircare line and Wendy William's struggles with dementia and aphasia. Join us... (00:00) Updates (09:00) Merchandise Update and Roots...

Feb 26, 20241 hr 31 min

Ep 327. What’s My 5 Year Plan? To Have a Good Day

In this week's episode, Shanti has little to no updates while Antoinette attempts to get clear on her voting strategy for the coming presidential elections. For our main topic, Shanti invites us to consider possible 5,10, or 20-year life goals starting and ending with "have a good day". In this topic, we discuss the root causes of "bad days" and what control and responsibility we have as individuals to have a good day. Join us. Book referenced: Real Love "The Art of Mindful Connection" By Sharon...

Feb 22, 20241 hr 27 min

Ep 326. Country Bey, D*** Over Democracy, Syphilis in the Black Community

In this week's episode, Shanti recaps her first Valentine's Day as a single lady while Antoinette asks for prayers for her cat Blue. Together, we acknowledge Philly for ranking the highest in the country for two outstanding reasons, share our mixed feelings about Fani Willis, recap Usher's Super Bowl performance, and discuss our reactions to Beyonce's newest country song releases. Join Us. Timestamps: 00:00 Valentine's Day/ Galentine's Day, 03:10 Disappointing Valentine's Day Dinner, 07:05: Whic...

Feb 19, 20241 hr 40 min

Ep 325. When I’m Desired, I Put On Baby Phat Panties

Happy Valentine's Day Curmmunity! In this week's episode, Shanti decides to paint her apartment while Antoinette excitedly continues the journey of watching Game Of Thrones with someone who has never seen it. Together we play a game from the Queen of Desire - Esther Perel dedicated to the themes of sex and desire. Join us... NEW MERCH DROPPED Shop ATWC Merch: https://www.aroundthewaycurls.com/collections Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Discord: https://discord.gg/8X7dDt5j Email: aroundthewaycurls@gmail....

Feb 15, 202457 min

Ep 324. Baby Phat… It’s All Cap

In this week's episode, the girls record early in the morning! Shanti shares her appreciation for everyone checking in on her mental well-being while Antoinette attends a gala where she is awarded for her incredible performance at work. Together we discuss parents serving time for their children's crimes, Shaun King's lifelong ban from Meta, Drake's leaked nude video, The Grammys, and Monique on Club Shay Shay. Join us... NEW MERCH DROPPED Shop ATWC Merch: https://www.aroundthewaycurls.com/colle...

Feb 12, 20241 hr 41 min

Ep 323. Are Black & Brown People Perpetually Out Of Time?

In this week's episode, Shanti encourages us to watch her new favorite series while Antoinette reflects on a listener's review. Together we discuss a TED talk by Brittany Cooper, The Racial Politics of Time where Brittany examines racism through the lens of time, showing us how historically it has been stolen from people of color, resulting in lost moments of joy and connection, lost years of healthy quality of life and the delay of progress. Join us... Do you have a question or comment you'd li...

Feb 08, 20241 hr 21 min

Ep 322. Meta, Migration & Moving on from Justin Timberlake

In this week's episode, Shanti prepares for a job interview while Antoinette quietly supports Megan Thee Stallion the best way she knows how. Together we discuss social media platforms under fire by lawmakers, the US border crisis, and how Justin Timberlake's lack of self-awareness continues to make us cringe. Join us. Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Join us on Discord or call in and leave a message! NEW MERCH DROPPED Shop ATWC Merch: https://www.aroundthewaycurls....

Feb 05, 20241 hr 34 min

Ep 321. Get Into Your Guts

NEW MERCH JUST DROPPED! Shop ATWC Merch: https://www.aroundthewaycurls.com/collections In this week's episode, Shanti aims high for a job at the airport while Antoinette resists being indoctrinated into the culture at her current job. For our main topic, Shanti tries to get to the root of her dissociation and is lovingly redirected by Antoinette to approach "the work" with compassion and without judgment. Join us... Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Join us on Discor...

Feb 01, 20241 hr 23 min

Ep 320. Alabama, Texas, Tim Scott, Oprah & Barbie

NEW MERCH JUST DROPPED! Shop ATWC Merch: https://www.aroundthewaycurls.com/collections In this week's episode, Shanti reveals the way to her heart while Antoinette manages disappointing others but doing what feels right for herself. Together we discuss Israel's recent negotiation rejections, Alabama's newest form of human execution, Tim Scott's buffoonery, and the controversy surrounding Dave Chapelle, Oprah & Barbie at the Oscars. Join us... Do you have a question or comment you'd like to s...

Jan 29, 20241 hr 52 min

Ep 319. Liberation In Troubled Times ft. Joèl Leon Live from Babel Loft

In this week's episode, we are joined by writer Joèl Leon. Together we discuss navigating personal liberation while holding space for a tumultuous world. How do we maintain a sense of self while empathizing with the world's struggles? Joel Leon is a performer, author, and storyteller, born and raised in the Bronx who writes and tells stories for Black people. Follow him here . Pre-order his coming book "Everything and Nothing At Once" here. This episode was recorded live at Babel Loft in Prospec...

Jan 25, 20241 hr 56 min

Ep 318. Early Puberty, Yasiin & Drake, The Emmys & Beef with Vlad TV

In this week's episode, Shanti deepens her love of Broadway musicals while Antoinette recaps seeing her favorite author: Cole Arthur Riley in Philadelphia. Together, we discuss the current phenomena of young girls reaching puberty earlier, Yasiin Bay, Drake, and the tale of "so many SKUs", the Emmy winners, and Antoinette's beef with VladTV. Join us... Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Join us on Discord or call in and leave a message! Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Discord...

Jan 22, 20241 hr 51 min

Ep 317. We’re 13 Years In & Still Married

In this episode, Shanti wrestles with her inner voice as revealed to her by her "morning pages" and Antoinette reflects on a lesson in faith from her beloved Godson. Together and with the help of psychotherapist Esther Perel, they explore the Paradox of Security vs. Freedom within their personal and working relationship. This brings Shanti to a sort of revelation about partnership. Join us. Watch the Esther Perel video referenced: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODWcrvZhM94 Do you have a questio...

Jan 18, 20241 hr 18 min

Ep 316. Delulu: The Color Purple, Katt Williams, Jonathan Majors & Coretta

And we are back! Thank you for everyone's patience and welcome arms after we return from a much-needed break. Shanti shares her recent trip to Savannah GA and her new favorite genre of television: white women cult leaders, while Antoinette shares her vacation escapades and her new obsession with perfumes. Together, we kick off 2024 jam-packed with topics as we attempt to keep up with all that has happened in pop culture while we were away starting with the iconic interview with Katt Williams, th...

Jan 15, 20241 hr 56 min

Reprise: Ep 252. Reimagining Relationships ft. Joél Leon

WE'RE BACK FROM OUR BREAK WITH NEW EPISODES NEXT WEEK! This week Shanti has no updates while Antoinette tells us a love story gone wrong after shooting her shot at Trader Joe's. We are then joined by artist, writer, and dope human being, Joèl Leon for a conversation about reimagining co-parenting & intimate relationships. Join us. Follow Joèl: Twitter: @JoelakaMaG IG: iamjoelleon Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Call in! Leave a message! Hotline: (215) 948-2780 ...

Jan 11, 20241 hr 50 min

Reprise Ep 262. Transparency is the Enemy of Exploitation ft. Toi Marie Smith

In this episode, Antoinette gives us valuable information on how to survive the end of the world in your car while Shanti revels in JoJo being old enough to care more for herself so her momma can run in these here streets. The girls are then joined by a powerhouse, mother, impact strategist, and revolutionary, Toi Marie Smith. Together, they discuss the 6 requirements of capitalism and its effects on motherhood, the responsibility of white wealth, and the power of financial transparency. Join us...

Jan 08, 20241 hr 27 min
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