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Around The Way Curls

Antoinette Lee & Shanti Mayersart19.com

Rooted in friendship, humor, and self-actualization, Shanti and Antoinette are a differing, but dynamic duo who explore both the profound and the profane because #DualityIsAThing.


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Episodes

Ep 259. God, for Real, Help Us.

In this week's episode, Shanti is getting a reality check as she deep-dives into her finances while Antoinette finds joy in the NBA playoffs. Together we talk about the state of corporate news with the recent firings of Carl Tuckerson and Don Lemon and the House passing a bill that limits trans women athletes' participation in sports. Lastly, we pay tribute to the late great Harry Belafonte as well as the trash tv talk show legend Jerry Springer. Join us... Do you have a question or comment you'...

May 01, 20231 hr 29 min

Ep 258. Well, That Was Good, That Was Good

This week, Antoinette is somehow still high & recounts reconnecting with her ex as Shanti gives us a tutorial on how to live in luxury. We talk more about gentle & not-so-gentle parenting while responding to listener voicemails, provide you with a chaotic Around the Way Affirmation, and completely unravel by the end of the episode. It was "good". Join us. Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Call in! Leave a message! Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycu...

Apr 27, 20231 hr 4 min

Ep 257. Shanti's Back & Ant is High

In this week's episode, Upon Shanti's return, Antoinette eats an edible, resulting in an hour & 14 mins of ATWC chaos. Shanti celebrates "Beef" and Bjork while Antoinette manages the good and bad of being overwhelmed. Together, we talk about our upcoming hotep summer, some politics as usual (including the shooting of Ralph Yarl) & the continuing fall of Jonathan Majors. Join us... Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Call in! Leave a message! Hotline: (215) 948-...

Apr 24, 20231 hr 14 min

Ep 256. When Relationships Change ft. Mandii B

In this episode, Antoinette is joined by Mandii B and together they discuss how to manage the inevitable changes that come in relationships. Join us... Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Call in! Leave a message! Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycurls@gmail.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls for exclusive videos & bonus content Shop ATWC Merch: https://www.aroundthewaycurls.com/collections See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and C...

Apr 20, 20231 hr 19 min

Ep 255. Pandering, Group Think, & the Hypocrisy of it All. Ft Mandii B

This week, filling in for Shanti is the pod Gawd, Mandii B. Together, Mandii, and Antoinette make fun of her social life while also holding her accountable for creating the vibe she wants. They discuss cancel culture in response to Daniel Caeser's new album + give their takes on Cardi B vs the Dalai Lama . Antoinette also gets Mandii to deep dive into politics while dissecting what Fox News calls Justin Pearson's persona, "political cosplay". Join Us. Do you have a question or comment you'd like...

Apr 17, 20231 hr 26 min

Ep 254. My Mother Was My First Bully

This week Shanti is beaming with pride after going to all of her checkups and dental appointments while Antoinette is reminded of a time she was a hotep putting money on her former king's books. We listen & respond to some intriguing voicemails and finally deep dive into the concept of our mothers being our first bullies. Join us Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Call in! Leave a message! Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycurls@gmail.com Patreon: www.pat...

Apr 13, 20231 hr 4 min

Ep 253. What Do Marcus Houston & Jay Z Have In Common?

In this week's episode, Shanti shares a lovely weekend of friendship while Antoinette shares two terrifying events that happened in one day involving her cat and a tornado. Together, we ponder if Van Jones' compassion is misplaced, the expulsion of two Black Tennessee lawmakers, Jill Biden losing her got a damn mind, and if Jay Z and Marcus Houston share a common practice in the selection of their wives? Join us. Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Call in! Leave a mes...

Apr 10, 20231 hr 16 min

Ep 252. Reimagining Relationships ft. Joél Leon

This week Shanti has no updates while Antoinette tells us a love story gone wrong after shooting her shot at Trader Joe's. We are then joined by artist, writer, and dope human being, Joèl Leon for a conversation about reimagining co-parenting & intimate relationships. Join us. Follow Joèl: Twitter: @JoelakaMaG IG: iamjoelleon Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Call in! Leave a message! Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycurls@gmail.com Patreon: www.patreon...

Apr 06, 20231 hr 50 min

Ep 251. Jonathan Majors & Jebediah Springfield

This week Antoinette is sitting in gratitude while Shanti is learning that everything in life is a negotiation. We talk about the return of HBO's, Succession and FINALLY address Jonathan Majors being accused of assault & harassment. Join us. * Note this episode was recorded before the text message exchange between him and the alleged victim was released. Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Call in! Leave a message! Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycurls@g...

Apr 03, 20231 hr 43 min

Ep 250. Relationship Anarchy 101

In this week's episode, Shanti shares her favorite social media couples that she secretly roots for while Antoinette sits with herself and leans into feeling all her feelings. For our main topic, we read the Relationship Anarchy manifesto written by Andie Nordgren as we continue the conversation around polyamory. What are the foundational values of relationship anarchy? Do we really even understand and agree with the philosophy? Is this something that we truly subscribe to? Do we want to? Join u...

Mar 30, 20231 hr 37 min

Ep 249. Is Blac Chyna The New Queen Afua?

In this week's episode, Shanti shares a proud mom moment, while Antoinette learns to manage the difficult art of doing too much and feeling like it's nothing ever enough. Together, we get into the transformation of Black Chyna, share our reviews of Netflix's The Strays, Trump's pending indictment, the possibility of World War 3, and grieve the death of Lance Reddick. Join us... Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Call in! Leave a message! Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email:...

Mar 27, 20231 hr 21 min

Ep 248. A Conversation About Polyamory ft. Dar

This week, Antoinette navigates the "sliminess" of networking while Shanti avoids her feelings by talking about The Last Of Us . Together, we respond to some listener voicemails that lead us down some interesting convos. Finally, we are joined by Dar, founder of Boonoonoonoos - a collective of polyam-friendly Black hotties liberating joy & pleasure through the intimacy of community. We talk about ethical polyamory, over-communicating, and love outside the bounds monogamy. Follow Dar: IG @dla...

Mar 23, 20231 hr 43 min

Ep 247. Banks Collapsing, Biden & Oil, Angela & The Oscars

In this week's episode, Shanti prays to stay off of Instagram while Antoinette feels called to create the life she wants to live. Together we talk about banks collapsing, approval of the Willow Project, and Angela & The Oscars. Join us. Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Call in! Leave a message! Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycurls@gmail.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls for exclusive videos & bonus content Shop ATWC Merch: https://ww...

Mar 20, 20231 hr 36 min

Ep 246. What Happened to Wonder?

This week Shanti is literally fighting sadness while Antoinette fights dehydrated skin. Together, we respond to listener messages and deep dive into a conversation about wonder. Inspired by, Cole Arthur Riley's, "This Here Flesh", we ask ourselves: "What happened to wonder? What happened to awe? Do we still reserve room for them?" Why or why not? Join us Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Call in! Leave a message! Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycurls@gmail...

Mar 16, 20231 hr 9 min

Ep 245. Should Chris Get Slapped Again?

Antoinette returns for this week's episode! Shanti realizes that dating herself is exhausting and looks to create more simple experiences while Antoinette found herself in a precarious situation in the Bronx last weekend. Together, we discuss the monumental lawsuit against Fox News, decide if Micheal B. Jordan is really corny, and share our thoughts on Chris Rock's recent Netflix special. Does he deserve to get molly-whopped again? Join us... Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share...

Mar 13, 20231 hr 30 min

Ep 244. Questionnaire to Oneself ft Naana

For this week's episode, we are joined again by the lovely Naana of "Work Bae" Podcast. Together we jump right into our main topic inspired by Audre Lorde's "Questionnaire to Oneself". For 3 days, Naana and Shanti wrote responses in their journals to the prompts. Listen as they share what came up for each of them. Feel free to begin your own journaling process with these prompts below: What are the words you do not have yet? [ Or, “for what do you not have words, yet?”] What do you need to say? ...

Mar 09, 20231 hr 2 min

Ep 243. Sweet Baby Leodis Ft. Naana

In this week's episode, we are joined by Naana of the "Work Bae" podcast while Antoinette takes a week away. Shanti shares her recent unpopular opinions about gender and Lizzo and together we discuss Keke Palmer's new bundle of joy, Modern Day Minstrel shows, and Dilbert's racist cartoon creator. Join us... Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Call in! Leave a message! Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycurls@gmail.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls ...

Mar 06, 20231 hr 36 min

Ep 242. Time Isn't Real But We're Old

In this episode, Shanti travels back in time while Antoinette shares anxiety over an upcoming photoshoot. After a couple of listener voicemails, we keep it light this week as we discuss all the things we are too damn old for now that we have reached our mid-thirties. Join us Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Call in! Leave a message! Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycurls@gmail.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls for exclusive videos & bonus ...

Mar 02, 20231 hr 9 min

Ep 241. Does Bashir Pump Gas?

In this week's episode, we both are in our feelings. Is it because of Pisces season or is it because we need therapy? Shanti shares updates about school while Antoinette shares her experience at The Read's 10th Anniversary Live Show. Together, we talk about real-life zombies in Philly, Black Excellence in STEM, and global burnout amongst parents and end with our thoughts on questioning gender norms due to the outrage caused by Jonathan Major's new Essence cover. Join us... Do you have a question...

Feb 27, 20231 hr 27 min

Ep 240. A Tale of Two Khadijahs

In this week's episode, we begin with music. Shanti claims her actual soulmate is her Spotify "Discover Weekly" playlist while Antoinette considers a trip to London to see Cleo Sol this spring. For our main topic, we listen to voicemails. As usual, our callers share their insights, questions, and wise corrections with the community. We end with two very different responses from women both named Khadijah giving us the duality we didn't know we needed. Join us. Do you have a question or comment yo...

Feb 23, 20231 hr 32 min

Ep 239. Rihanna, Idris, Ageism & Aliens

In this week's episode, Shanti deepens her understanding of what creating a life she loves means by correcting her daily work practices. Antoinette took another step towards her aliveness by sharing her voice with a friend which led to a greater leap of courage. Together, we talk about The Super Bowl, Rihanna'a performance, if are being bamboozled by balloons, and Idris's recent declaration about being a Black actor. Join us.... Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Call...

Feb 20, 20231 hr 36 min

Ep 238. Eroticism Should Be Part of Your Self Care Plan

This week we deep dive into the erotic with help from the GAWD Esther Perel. Her recent article, Why Eroticism Should Be Part of your Self-Care Plan, helps us define eroticism & guides us on to access & practice it. We then question how we have limited our idea of eroticism & only attached it to sex. In our daily lives, how often do we really prioritize + will the practice of the fullest expression of ourselves? In our daily lives, how often do we really prioritize + will the practic...

Feb 16, 20231 hr 18 min

Ep 237. Beyonce, Bell Hooks & State of the Union

In this week's episode, Shanti explores her city and finds enjoyment in working at a cafe that plays experimental jazz loudly, while Antoinette grounds herself in the wise words of bell hooks' All about Love for Valentine's Day. Together, we address recent assumptions and critiques made by listeners about our relationship. We discuss the Grammys, Beyonce's wins and losses, China's spy balloon, and Joseph Robinette Biden's recent State Of The Union Address. Join us... Do you have a question or co...

Feb 13, 20231 hr 27 min

Ep 236. I’d Rather be Hurt By The Truth

In this week's episode, Shanti buys herself tickets to a play in New York for another solo date as Antoinette also considers dating herself due to the poor selection of men out here who respond with green texts, and have poor dating etiquette. For our main topic, we dive into the taboo. What happens when you are in love with a person who you can't have? Do we indulge in our pleasure and get more entangled in love? Do we withdraw and stop all communication in the name of respect and morality? Or ...

Feb 09, 20231 hr 13 min

Ep 235. 4,094 Ancestors Before You

This week, Shanti fully embraces her nickname, Shalom Shanti by becoming a yogi & expresses gratitude to a listener for her help in restoring The Sable Collective's IG. Antoinette gushes over the Eagles going to the Superbowl and shares some of the many lessons she is learning from working more closely with her girl, Mandii B. Together, they ring in Black History Month right by examining the SYSTEM that is white supremacy, expressing gratitude for the ancestors, and imagining the faith, love...

Feb 06, 20231 hr 28 min

Ep 234. You’re Projecting On To Me & That’s F'd Up

In this week's episode, Shanti is inspired by Toni Morrison and wants to create "a place that feels like it is all hers" as she navigates nurturing her inner world and cultivating new hobbies. Antoinette leans into daily stretching and shares her attempt at a homemade ice bath that didn't go as planned. Together, we talk about projection after a recent conflict with one another. What is projection? What is it seated in? How can we become more aware when we are projecting? Join us... Do you have ...

Feb 02, 20231 hr 16 min

Ep 233. No Good News

*Note* This episode was recorded before the video release of Tyre Nichol's' brutal murder at the hands of Memphis police. In this week's episode, Shanti manages the emotional and collateral damage of having her business' Instagram account stolen from her while Antoinette celebrates the release of her newest podcast "Can't Afford Therapy". Together, we agree that Bob Ross was good at stroking more than just a paintbrush! We disagree on the significance of Beyonce's recent performance in Dubai, sh...

Jan 30, 20231 hr 22 min

Ep 232: Are Rewards Ruining Us?

In this week's episode, Shanti stands by her mac and cheese and finds joy in headphones and Homegoods while Antoinette shares her shock at Black women getting facial cosmetic surgery. Together, we listen to callers' very different responses to the same episode about marriage and longevity. For our main topic, Antoinette finds that only a white man, Dr. Andrew Huberman holds the keys to her motivation. Inspired by his teachings, she offers his advice on how to start the day off "right" and stay m...

Jan 26, 202358 min

Can't Afford Therapy: New Podcast Alert!

Antoinette has a new podcast! She's been talking about the new project she has diligently been working on and it's finally here. Be sure to head over to the Can't Afford Therapy Podcast and check out the first two episodes today! Be a fly on the wall as Josh "Fazefunk," Antoinette, and SaVon hold conversations about mindfulness, compassion, healing, and more. While being vulnerable and allowing each other to open up about each of their individual life paths. This trio will get you to peel back t...

Jan 25, 20235 min

Ep 231: Maybe I’ll Do Adderall Tomorrow

In episode 231, Shanti is excited to be back in school but frustrated by the two ghosts haunting her house while Antoinette struggles to tell friends she isn't paying for the 4 rounds of drinks when she got a regular chicken entree. Together they discuss the Seattle school district suing social media leaders Meta, Google, Snapchat + Tiktok, Joseph Robinette Biden's classified document scandal, Goerge Santos lies on lies on lies, and China going from 100 to 0 when it comes to covid. Finally, we g...

Jan 23, 20231 hr 11 min
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