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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. I'm strong and get and he Armstrong and Getty.

So you don't know what staffer is responsible for this right now? Well, look, a staffer wasn't responsible. And look, I take full responsibility. I built the I built the group to my job is to make sure everything's coordinated.

But how did that's cute?

I mean, I don't mean to be pedantic here, but how did the number?

Have you ever had?

Have you ever had somebody's contact that shows their name and then you have an and then you have somebody else? Right, you've got somebody else's number on someone else's contact. So of course I didn't see this loser in the group. It looked like someone else. Now, whether he did it deliberately or it happened in some other technical means something we're trying.

To figure out at your National Security Advisor Waltz on Laura Ingram last night, taking full responsibility for adding the journalist Jeffrey Goldberg into the chat that has been discussed so much in the last uh thirty six hours.

But then suggesting it was an innocent mistake anybody could have made, or it was Jeffrey Goldberg's skullduggery that got him in that group. I like Mike Waltz a lot. I like him policy wise, I like him personally. I like the cut of his jib that was weak.

Well, I don't want to get sidetracked by this, but do you think he's wondering how the hell did this happen? Yes?

Guaranteed, yes, some staffer of his put together the contact card for say Marco Rubio or somebody else.

Rubio's already known what contact he was.

But you know, okay, here is the Secretary of Energies contact information, and somehow it was Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic.

Why a lot of people say a lot of crap, Like I've heard so much. You always know who's on a call, or whenever you get on a call, you check and see who else is on there? Whoever does that? Who know what? Scrolls through and make sure who's JG fifty two sixty two? That's me? Okay, who's who does that? How many folks were on this string? Do you recall?

It's so early in the administration and the strike was a success, So this is a really stupid the more I read, a really stupid breach of security, I mean really bad. But it was the dog that didn't bark, and so it's the perfect opportunity to come clean, confess errors, say we'll do better, and then move on. Don't offer any resistance that continues the scandal.

Yeah, and just the whole this scumbag reporters sort of thing you added him in and saying.

Over and over nothing classified was shared. Well, the Atlantic is putting out what was shared, and it was one hundred percent classified, highly classificed.

Well, that leads us to this, So I'm going to read the New York Post version just because you know they lean trumpy. So you're going to get the most favorable view from the New York Post. And it's still damning. The Atlantic magazine on Wednesday published even more in quotes war plan text, laying out minute by minute operational details and exact weapons to be used in the yem and strikes. The Trump administration shot down claims that classified details were

This signal message shows that the US Secretary of Defense texted a group that included a phone number unknown to him Goldberg's cell phone at eleven forty four am, thirty one minutes before the first US warplanes launched, in two hours and one minute before the beginning of the period in which the primary target was expected to be killed.

As a who the leader.

If this text had been received by someone hostile to American interests or merely someone indiscreet with access to social media, the Houthis would have had time to prepare for what was meant to be a surprise attack on the strongholds. The consequences for American pilots could have been catastrophic.

Director of National Intelligence Tulci Gabbard yesterday and the CIA director John Ratcliffe were among eighteen officials in the signal messaging channel. So there's your answer there. It was eighteen. We're adamant that they didn't divulge classified information. Well, so the question the hearing yesterday that never really got an answer is well, if this wasn't classified, why he wasn't

And if you're tuning in hoping to hear Trump always right, administration always right, Democrats always wrong.

You know, we.

On the right side of the Aisle have to do better than this, like the tele what the hell? I can never remember the name of the app Signal in December, and we played a tape of a commentator on Fox News yesterday saying this. In December, the federal government said, Hey, signal is just fine. Put it on your phone, use it for encrypted chats. But then in February the CIA put out an advisory saying, hey, the Russians have figured out a way to hack into signal, do not use it.

That somebody must have missed.

And Steve Whitkoff, who's the President's he's a friend from New York. He's a businessman, a good negotiator, and he's done some good stuff. But he was in Moscow using signal under the nose of the Russians who listened to everything. They know when you flush the toilet if you're any sort of American official in Moscow. And so it was just an own goal, as they say in soccer. It

We like interceptions. No, this was dumb. They got to do better. So you were discussing civic war plans in Moscow on a commercial text chat thingy, yes, that seems crazy. Now the new revelations from Jeffrey Goldberg, which again I think he probably wasn't going to publish. I don't know if he was or not, but he might not have been going to publish until he got so much pushback

I mean, so they're doubling down on Goldberg's making this up. Essentially, No, this is so bad. Oh yeah, I guess it will. Yeah, but you're you could do literally anything and still have that chunk of people. Tell me, tell me what's wrong with this, and feel free to if you want to weigh in ba a text or email the text lines four one five two niney five kftc uh. That's four one five two nine five kftc or if you like email, mail bag at Armstrong and Getty dot com.

But if you were to say this was.

A serious mistake, we are embarrassed.

We will never do it again.

We appreciate the Atlantic and mister Goldberg's restraint in not publishing information that could be dangerous to American troops in the field. Wouldn't this all peter out? Yes, And now you're going with no, no, no, we didn't. No, it wasn't classified. And so Goldber's like, you call me a liar. No, I got to prove I'm not right. I don't what is strategy at all?

Your method? You know, on cable news channels they would have continued to hammer it and look how incompetent they are and bought. But but nobody watches those channels, knowing no matter the over all how big a story this is, would have dwindled a ton if that.

One sided tennis match, if you stop hitting the ball back to them.

So here's the reality because of the way it was handled. Tulsi Gabbard. As we speak, I'm looking at the cable news. Today's the House version of the World Threats hearing that they have every year. So it was the Senate version yesterday it's a House Intelligence committee today. And are they talking about worldwide threats? No, they're talking about this signal chat thing and how it happened. And she's being questioned right there, it says, up there, I'm looking at Fox

Or two, harken back to the nineteen What a fine and exciting time that was. Inflation was rampant, Nixon was impeached, Jerry Ford was walking into doorways and and something else happened.

I don't remember.

Just go rule the airwaves, disc go rule the air thank you. Uh No, it's not the crime, it's the cover up. It's the cover up that brings you down. Hey, we screwed up, embarrassed, We've fixed it. It's into the Atlantic and mister Goldberg, it's human nature on such an interesting level. And it's true.

Like picturing kids, you can picture the government stuff or whatever. If your kid comes here and say, I just I don't I took the cookies and I shouldn't have, and I hate myself forward, I don't like eating that crab. It makes me feel bad. I'm trying to stop and I just but I saw him there, and I could say, you feel bad for him, You feel compassionate. If they say I didn't eat the cookies with crumbs around their lips, you feel like they're calling you stupid. Yes, I mean

If we screw this up, we don't get a chance to do the good stuff. That's why I call, you know, my own team for running a bad offense.

To get back to the sports to metaphor, Yeah, so this has got at least one more day in it, and so I'm sure you're staying on top of the answers they're giving to Okay, now we see more of these are they are they claiming they're made up? Are they claiming they're not real? It would be your only home unless you're it's the only thing you could do.

You know, I'm kind of disappointed in you, Jack, speaking of calling fouls that you haven't hit me with a single. So you wanted Kamla to win. And that's always such a fun part of these discussions.

Oh my god, that is always good. We got a lot more news all the way.

Stay here switching gears to some business news apples so that they're working on adding a camera to the Apple Watch.

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Later this hour, I wanted to talk about I quit Google for Chat, GPT and other AI search and I'm not going back.

This is the person who uses Apple device. Oh I might be on board with that. Goodbye Google boy. In mentioning that, so I talk a lot about the Apple Watch, I just I just love all the stuff I can do it. I have my car app on there, I have my bank stuff, I pay for everything app. I don't need a car. I don't really need anything in my pocket. I just just as long as I got my watch with But every I want to leave my phone behind more often, just so I don't look at it.

I don't know, if chicks had throw themselves out, maybe, oh yeah, let's hang on.

I don't know. I still think it's a pretty good idea. Well, you'd you'd.

Make a lot of money until the other teams realized they could do the same thing, and then they would just I don't know, rule the grotesquely obese or Okay, we're into prison them and feed them.

I don't know. We're into season two of all zero zero games because everybody's hired a big, bad goalie. We're gonna have to change a rule somehow away in for goalies. I don't know. Yes, I realize that's stupid, but I still haven't heard of work around.

Okay that I'm completely distracted now I want to get into the hole.

Is social Security a Ponzi scheme? Conversation? Which is a dumb, dumb conversation. I admit it has come up many times over the decades, so many mentions so security being a Ponzi scheme, and then the pushback and response is just so over the top, even though it resembles a Ponzi scheme in so many ways structurally, literally, absolutely so politically. Elon said it the other day. There was a fact check on him, and then a fact check with the definition of a Ponzi scheme. It came up in a

Social Security is the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time. Basically, people are living way longer than expected. There are a few babies being born, so you have more people who are retired and that live for a long time and get retirement payments. So have a bad The financial situation is right now for the federal government.

It will be much worse in the future.

Do you believe that sold security is a Ponzi scheme?

I believe it's a promise to pay. It's in eighty nine your institution, so far it will continue.

Yes, or now do you think it's a Ponzi scheme? It's a promise to pay.

So that's from a hearing yesterday with the Democrats grilling the Republican who runs the Social Security trying to get him to contradict to Elon Musk, who's you know, working with the president on trying to cut costs and deal with let's going bankrupt. Elon Musk said on Joe Rogan fairly recently, what you just heard that Social Security is upon this scheme. And I can't believe we're still having this conversation. I mean we probably first had it two thousand five.

Hey, I'm sorry, that's twenty got to interrupted. I've got to interrupt you. Based on that clip. I'm just jotting this down from my personal notes from my memoir. March twenty six, ten thirty six a m. Eastern time was the moment I gave up on democracy. That exchange crushed my spirit for your memoir.

Ah, good lord.

So yeah, let's let's not talk about the structural problems or the challenge. Let's just try to catch each other and saying the thing we can embarrass each other over.

Good lord.

I know it's so sorry, Doctor Franklin, Sorry General Washington.

We mucked it up. So I was listening to uh, some cable news hosts talking about George Bush taking on Social Security and what a dumb plan it was, and what a mistake it was political mistake, and they're just talking about the politics of it. If you want to just be very crass. Bottom line, all that matters is getting re elected. Yes, it is stupid to take on Social Security, and Trump knows that. That's why he always says, not going to touch it, not going to touch it.

If you'd if that had gotten through at the time, you'd be listening to the podcast on a yacht in the Mediterranean and not getting crusts of bread from the government every month. My retired friends, Oh.

And he got killed and uh. And they referred to it as a Ponzi scheme back then, and just got killed. How dare you call FDR rescuing the working class calling it a Ponzi scheme? Bob blah. First, I suppose we should started here. How many of you know people that don't know what a Ponzi scheme is. It's like, uh, you know, if you're a selling water purifiers or tupperware or I don't know. There's all kinds of different things out there that are Ponzi schemes where.

I actually the classic one is like the airplane thing that was hot for a cup of coffee in college, where you buy seats on the so called airplane, and then as it fills up, the people who are in the front of the plane become the co pilot and pilot. Then they get paid off, make a huge amount of money relative to their investment, and then as long as more people are coming in at the bottom, right, the people at the top get paid.

Yeah, And there's a I had friends that got into the water purifier thing in the nineties or whatever, and it was classic Ponzi scheme, and they'd come hit you with, say, I'm making three hundred thousand dollars a month. You know why I've had I've had two hundred people underneath me selling water purifires, and it was true that they were. I mean, it's not wasn't a lie. It's just that the people underneath you need to also sign up a whole bunch of people to sell water purifiers and this album.

Well. In the difference in social security is that it's not a question of attracting people to what seems like a profitable proposition. It's just the sheer number of young workers versus retirees. It's a function of demographics, not like sales persuasion.

So that George bushmaier, hey there you go. Wow, I'll be good to hear from you. But I hated that the conversation I saw on cable news about what George Bush to just labeled only as stupid. Again, if you're just going to be cold, crass politics, which is what most politicians are, it is stupid. But would somebody please

Even a question so clearly, I mean, there's there's true and there's false in this. It's not like how strong should America's military be and how much should we spend money, where honest people can disagree. This is just a question of fact and and people calling it a spont a Ponzi scheme, a Ponzi scheme. They're talking about the structure, and then phony liar Elizabeth Warren acts as though they're talking about the intent of it. That's this is not criminal,

Do you believe that solid Security is a Ponzi scheme?

I believe it's a promise to pay. It's an eighty nine your institution. So far it will continue?

Yes?

Or now do you think it's a Ponzi scheme?

Yes, they're no, it's a promise to pay.

I hate you. I hate this process. It's stabbing democracy in the liver. I despise every moment of this. I'm counting the seconds until I get out of this stupid.

Stupid hearing. Yeah, and well, we'll play this first. This is Elizabeth Warren grilling the Social Security Republican a little more.

If you are confirmed in this job, will you commit to reversing these cuts so that seniors get the money that the law says they are entitled to.

What I will commit to is that I will run the agency, and I will be in charge of the agency, and I will look at every item you want me to look at.

That's not what I'm asking you. I'm asking you just answered the previous questions by saying you.

Would follow the law.

The law is to deliver the benefits that people are legally entitled to. If you don't have the staff, if you don't answer the phones, if you don't fix the mistakes, people don't get what they're legally entitled to. So I want to know, are you willing to commit right now that you will put enough people back to work so they can do the job of delivering the benefits that Americans earned.

I'll guess or no, I'll commit to have the right stuff and to get the job done.

To get the job done, meaning delivering the benefits people are entitled to.

Yes, I'm going to hold you to that.

I promise that they'll get all the wampum and blankets to us they're entitled.

Michael just said, in my ear, she's bringing the firewater. I don't know if that's an expression. I tell you what.

The only thing I hate Elizabeth Warren. She is such a lying phony. But the Doge guys have cut like the customer service end of Social Security right now, and it's become a bit of a nightmare to deal with. I have a friend who's been telling me about it. Guys, be smart in near cuts, be strategic, add those people back in.

It still gets down to there have to be cuts. You either have to raise taxes or cut the program, or we have to make major changes. It doesn't work. And the fact that we can't talk about that is so nuts. I mean, you're inside conversation. He's having his head. I'll continue to answer your questions. You know you're lying, you're playing to your stupidest voters, and you know what you're doing. I know what you're doing. Everybody in this

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I would say calling it the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time is one hundred percent accurate. The amount of money, the biggest ponzee scheme of all time, and it's going to crash in my kids generation. Certainly we got more on the way Armstrong, Honey, Lucy say.

Forty six year old Gerhard Cone was hiking a poly trail in o' Wahoo with his wife, thirty six year old Ariel Koenig, when he struck her in the head with a rock and tried to push her off the ledge. Polly Say, the attack hambage around ten am on Monday, when the couple was visiting the tourist site located just outside Honolulu. She was taken to a local hospital with multiple injuries to the head and face, where police say

So where'd you get the detail you threw in about that, Katie? About what they the argument that ensued. Where'd you come up with? Then? That was attached to a couple of articles. So the story, what's the story you have? They're out hiking, husband and wife, and what happens they're out hiking. He wants to take a picture with her and she said no, and he lost it so hit her with a rock and heaved her over the cliff. Sure he did the next logical thing, tried to push her off a cliff.

Wow, wow, wow, good looking couple too, But who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of mess.

Should hit her in the head with a rock? But hey, why are you being so obstinate. We're on vacation, we want memorials.

And he's an anesthesiologist, so he knows that hitting someone in the head with a rock is not anesthesia. I mean it has a similar effect ultimately.

But wow.

So this is a moneyed couple, highly educated. His wife's a nuclear engineer.

Wow. And it's not being portrayed as like it was a plan. You know, he's he's got a mistress or insurance money or because we've heard this sort of thing before. It was an all of a sudden, lose your temper thing that I don't remember hearing, especially among older successful people. Not like it's a couple of meth heads.

Well right, yeah, exactly. They've been married six and a half, seven year or something like that.

Not another picture, she says, I want a nice picture with the sunset and you in front. I'm not doing it. Where's a rock? Wow, that's just nutty. No, he was planning to killer, it's gotta be. That's why I think that detail is a red herring. Canard.

Yeah, it's a well, it is a red herring. He's he's trying to come up with oh my god, I'm busted crime of passion is my only defense. Yeah, and just to reduce the sentence because premeditated you're done.

Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. I know you like this story, Katie. I know a woman, so she would have been at the time mid twenties, very serious boyfriend and they were out hiking it. He said to her, they're on standby cliff. He said, Man, if I pushed you off this cliff, nobody would ever know. Yeah, and she broke up with him over that. Good very serious too. What a weird

How about you walk in front of me for the rest of the hike. And I taught my daughter daughters, Katie. I heard a self defense expert talking about this. Women, if you have the urge to cross the street or you're concerned in a parking lot, don't turn that voice off because of either political correctness or no I need to be brave. No, listen to that voice. Likewise, with dudes, if you're getting the this is wrong. This is not right.

Don't touch yourself out of it. Don't even worry about why, yeah, or if the guy you're with, I just.

Show you right off this cliff and I never get caught. Boy, I don't know if he used that menacing tone.

Okay, by the way, this did you know I could make you disappear? Yeah? No, not a good good thing. Yeah. And they were like, uh, they were a long way away on vacation. I want to say where because I want to give away who is. But uh, they were like way far away into vacation, so they had to fly back and everything like that. I don't remember she broke up with him there and they came back or

Teeth that, oh my god, my wife, and then keep your story consistent.

That's how they always get you. But especially in the with the in the modern area, there's so many stories you know of people doing selfies or taking pictures and falling off cliffs and whatnot. It happens for real. I told her step back. I didn't know she was Oh yeah.

Selfie deaths are rampant these days. Charles Darwin his hand in the events for sure coming up. Get rid of Google, It's time for the artificial intelligence on your phone. Plus people mad at her take about the signal scandal, We'll let their voices be heard as well.

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