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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Getty.

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And so I got a couple of stories. One of them I told before, and I got to be vague about them because they're They're real life stories people have told me, and I don't want them to get in trouble for.

You know, passing along more or less confidential information.

But I told the story a while back about somebody who was talking to a group of working class assault of the Earth gentlemen, the last kind of dudes that you would ever think that.

This would be a thing for.

I'm not talking about like some Berkeley androgynous poetry majors. I'm talking about like work in class, work with their hands guys, blue collar guys, talking about how much they enjoyed the companionship of the female chatbots when they came home from you know, a long day in the field at night, and how you know they listen to them and understand them and they look forward to it all day long, and that sort of thing.

And I thought, wow, I mean, if.

That crowd can fall under the sway of this in its current form, mankind is doomed. No, I've never tried it, but I almost don't want to because I have some concern with like a lot of other things that I've dismissed and joked about, and find it more appealing than I'd like it to be.

You know, I would hope that your oogie factor would overcome that temptation, but your illustration of the sort of fellows who like it is troubling.

Although I'm luckily I'm not. I don't feel trapped in a lonely world like a lot of people do. And if you feel like it's, you know, you're lonely and it's really difficult out there to meet people and everything like that, then this answer comes along.

It must feel good to you.

So a slightly different version of this, and also a real life story Mom was telling me the other day, and it's a troubling story from the beginning, as the daughter involved as twelve, but let's go with thirteen because it's they're close enough to thirteen but still are Actually twelve had ended up in a situation by being in

Wow.

Anyway, mom gets contacted by the school saying, hey, we are taking a look at your kid's search history and computer use because.

Maybe you know this, maybe you don't. I mean, I've had kids in public school.

They allow you to use the Chromebook or you buy your own Chromebook, but you have to be on the school system and they have the right to check and see what stuff you're doing on that computer, which I'm fine.

With, but they have a variety of.

Protection programs that you know, if you're eighth grade boys looking at porn on the Chromebook, the school will contact you and say, hey, your kid's using a Chromebook for porn, and then you know, you talk to them or step in or do whatever, and then if you continue doing it, there's penalties down the road.

But the squad in many schools, if you say I'm I want to be transgender, then they won't tell your parents.

Excellent point.

Wow, that is really good. Caught your thirteen year old looking at naked women. Oh no, what a shock. Your thirteen year old wants to become a woman. Keep it on the down low a mom and dad's business. Wow, good point. But so anyway, this mom got contacted by the school. Hey, your twelve year old daughter's computer was showing them on this site talking to an advice chat bot, sex chat bot. I guess it's particularly in the area

And it just became a like hard to break cycle. Wow. Wow, Now.

If there had been I can't imagine it when I was like thirteen, fourteen years old. You know, when you're a young man starting to understand things your body is capable of doing, or certain urges that can be.

Enjoyed in a certain way, and there had been some.

Sort of chatbot I could talk to that would tell me sexy stories or do whatever. Oh my god, I would have never been I don't know how you got me out my room, but you know, so you can have the sex talk with your kids. They're having the sex talk with some chatbot.

What's really interesting is that, so far as far as I can observe, the premature sexualization of children, which the left is so enthusiastic about, has mostly resulted in people not pairing off, not actually having sex, not having relationships.

An interesting.

Coexistence of those two things, although it makes intuitive sense that there would be some, maybe most, who having their normal development blocked in this way, if you can picture that as a metaphor, A lot of people go to the left toward this is all sick and weird and I can't handle it never mind, and some people will go to the right being hyper sexualized, addicted to pornography, whatever.

It seems to me, is the.

Step by step natural progression of the way you become aware of the world in adulthood, everything from sex to taxes and responsibility and paying bills and real, deep emotional relationships with another adult. That's an inch by inch process for the entire history of mankind, except now now, and I can't resist another shot at the left.

Forgive me. Now.

You go to your woke school where you're immediately sexualized and you're surrounded by poor or whatever, and that step by step is like vaulting a mile at a time in a way that their poor young minds and hearts can't handle.

It's incredibly troubling to me. I know, I can't imagine.

Learning all the things that I learned, like you said, little by little, inch by inch over a period of years, and just got dumped on me, you know, like a bucket on my head, a lot of it, really bad ideas and bad advice.

And all kinds of things.

Yeah, I mean, so you're gonna have the sex talk with your teenage daughter to make sure she's said, well, she's fine and she's got you know, you're not the only role model for them. They've got another role model. It's the AI bot that they get to talk to. And apparently it's a thing like they this person became aware of it from friends because that's what the friends are doing too, And God, knows what sort of you know, the whole garbage in, garbage out?

Why is why are AI systems woke? Well, because the people programming them are and blah blah blah.

You got that issue as well.

You know, I keep every time we talk about this sort of thing, I have the same urge toward you know, some sort of fundamentalist subcultural civilization or community or or you know, build your own compound or something. And you know, people I'd say, yeah, we're fundamentalists, and they say, like religious fundamentalist, No, Islamic fundamentalists. No, no, no, no, we're just fun to. We just concentrate on the fundamentals of life,

Oh no, no, no, we do medicines and vaccinations, you know, and all this.

Yeah, we you know, we're not lunatics.

We've just we've learned to separate the wheat from the chaff of the modern world because and this is this is so obvious and so fundamental it almost seems stupid to say.

But we all, as human beings, tend to be swept up. And we talked about this a couple of days ago in fascinating fashion. We all tend to be swept up by the culture and assume everything that is offered to us is something we ought to take in.

And that's not true.

There is some wheat, but there's some not only chaff, but poison, like thumbtacks in the wheat of.

The modern world. This is a great idea.

Man, if I had billions, fight eons billions, I would start towns like this, or communities or I don't know how. You don't I have it an unfold, but you'd be like the Amish, except for No, we're not gonna ride buggies down the road to work. It's ridiculous. But we're not gonna have the damned Internet. We're not gonna have smartphones. We're not gonna have all this stupid stuff. We're gonna go back to like way back to two thousand and six.

Okay, maybe I don't know on the internet. I have to think about that.

But definitely, not smartphones, Definitely, not Ai, Definitely none of that stuff.

And I think a lot of people would gravitate toward that.

We're gonna have backyard barbecues and the kids are gonna all go off to the side, and they're gonna talk and giggle and laugh, and we'll wonder what they'll say and if they're saying, and then they'll invent if in a game with a ball and a stick, and you know, yeah.

And is there any way to program morality into any of this chatbot stuff? I mean, you couldn't force it, but I mean, is there any way to have a chatbot says, Wait a second, how old are you?

I'm twelve.

While you shouldn't be sex at all, and certainly not being in a relationship with a seventeen year old. There's either something wrong with them or they're just wanting to use you for sex. But this is a bad idea. Is there any way a chatbot whatever say that?

Well, the issue is since groups, since we don't really have shared a shared sense of morality anymore, because we've become a much more diverse country, the it's impossible to quote unquote infuse morality into it because nobody can agree on what morality is or should be. Therefore, all things digital are utterly a moral They are without morals. Does that trouble anybody sending your child into a completely a moral environment?

In this particular story, so chromebook got taken away mom late at night. At one point realizes computers missing. Uh oh, goes in the daughter's bedroom. Couldn't stay away from the sex advice chatbot to please a seventeen year old now has to sleep with the computer, all computer devices in the bedroom to make sure they I mean, oh my god, this is not something our parents had to deal with.

No, I realizing I had to deal with and my kids are now mid twenties to early thirties.

Yeah, I realized the hubris that comes with saying this is a harder time to be a parent.

This is a harder time to be a parent than it was for previous generations.

It's horrible.

Yes, as somebody raised the just one more generation earlier, You're right.

You're one hundred percent. God, it's so crazy.

Anyway, if you know anything about this or had any experiences our text line four one five two nine to five KFTC.

Jack Armstrong and Joe Satty The Armstrong and Getty Show, The arm Strong and Getty Show.

Now I haven't heard this.

Gavin Newsom and Bill Maher discussing some California policies.

We'll discuss I see today the Trump administration.

They talked about the fact that California had a rule that schools cannot be required to notify parents if their kids in school have changed their gender, their pronouns. That's the kind of thing, even though it doesn't affect a lot of people, that makes a lot of people go, well, you know what, that's the party without common sense. Now, if that's your state, how are you are you?

I just disagree with that. I mean, the law was you would be fired.

A teacher would be fired if a teacher did not report or snitch on a kid talking about their gender identity. I just think that was wrong. I think teachers should teach. I don't think they should be required to turn in kids.

And by the way, turning that we're talking about their parents.

How can snitch The idea of a snitch and a parent to me, doesn't combine.

Just I don't But what is what is the job of a teacher?

It's to teach.

If Johnny's talking about some identity issue or some issue about liking someone of the same sex.

Is that the teacher's job.

Oh well, one thing that's clear from that, he is not confidently coming out and saying it's ridiculous that teachers would not be allowed to tell parents about it, And he didn't say that. He had the opportunity right off the bat to say that, and he didn't. So there's no chance he's gonna be president the United States. You cannot be president in the United States unless you're willing

I can't believe he didn't have the balls to say that out loud.

And to claim that Johnny, who now wants to be called Jenny, that that would be snitching on the kid and akin to maybe the kid hints that maybe he likes boys.

That's just that is so false. I mean, it's so funny.

And also the job of a teacher is to teach, to teach about the genderbread person in radical gender theory, Gavin, you require them to teach that stuff. Now, with all the crap in California that they haven't teach that's not reading, writing, and arithmetic, that ain't gonna fly. And he's trying to conflate what DeSantis is doing in Florida, where they have the law that you'll be fired if you don't tell the parents, and he's trying to act like that's what he's fighting against.

No, no, no, no, no, you went completely the other direction where the teacher is not allowed to tell the parent. That's nuts. Yeah, and every most people think it's nuts.

As Bill Maher points out, most people think that's nuts.

I thought Gavin was smarter than that. Here's the deal.

What's really wrecking him and people like him, thank God, is more and more people are understanding the relationship between the neo Marxists, the radical you know, gender theory crowd or the queer theory crowd, all these lunatics, the neo Marxists and their connection to Frances Since the teachers Union, which is down with all this stuff, Gavin doesn't dare defy the teachers Union, which is down with all this stuff. So he went as far as he's going to go with his Yeah, there's.

A injustice there. We need to strike a balance with the girls in So it's not the vice versa.

So it's not the voters that he has in the back of his mind when he's answering those questions.

It's the teachers Union.

Have the teachers unions and the radical activist class of which he I think is to the extent that he has any beliefs whatsoever, they seem to be quite progressive.

I think he believes he wants to be president. Yeah, I'd like to hear more of that exchange.

Yeah, no kidding, because mar cannot be.

I got to be able to say this. He cannot be bull asked. I'll just say that, why do you so oily?

Why do you take so much joy and cursing? I don't know, No, it's just it's a wonderful thing. It's a wonderful thing.

Well, you know, I consider bull asked to be a perfect work universally understood and its meaning.

It is brief, it has a ring tw it, it has a rhythm to it. It's perfect work.

Yeah, and unfortunately the substitutes do not carry the same weight.

Arm Strong and Getty, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, the Armstrong and Getty Show.

We were with German police as they conducted early morning raids on citizens who had been accused of hate speech, threats and inciting violence online.

In the United States.

A lot of people look at this and say, this is restricting free speech. It's a threat to democracy.

Free speech meets boundaries. Wow, and yeah, yeah, throw in the German accent and that's really something that's from that's from sixty minutes Sunday night, coming on the heels of JD Vance giving Europe a lecture about censorship and be an anti free speech over the weekend.

And as we will discuss these sixty minutes report was gleefully, weirdly, troublingly positive about the idea of restricting free speech if it's.

The wrong speech.

Made even more notable their awful attitude by the fact that it occurred on the same day as this clip. Margaret Brennan talking to Marco Rubio on Face the Nation.

He was standing in a country where free speech was weaponized to kentuckt a genocide, and he met with the head of a political party that has far right views and some historic ties to extreme groups.

Margaret Brennan attempting to suggest the JDVS chants shouldn't have advocated free speech because free speech is what led to the genocide in Germany against the Jews, which is almost hilariously idiotic and so wildly inaccurate. It's barely worth the time to describe how incredibly inaccurate it was free speech under Hitler.

When was that? Exactly, asks every historian on Earth.

I know, I'm mister hyperbole, but I feel like that's one of the craziest things I've ever heard. One of the major Sunday Show anchors say.

It is Jadavan. Unquestionably, jd Vance was standing in Germany where the rise of fascism happened in the genocide, and they weaponized free speech. What are you talking about? Oh my god, Yeah, she's nuts.

I'm so lost on this. I don't understand their worldview. I guess we'll learn more of this.

Well I do.

I can describe it to you exactly. It's the lust for power. If you control speech, you control everything else. But how does that work in a democracy? Don't you The other side gets to do it too when they're in charge. Again, I hate even going to that argument because then it makes it a conditional thing. Well, for practical reasons, I guess you're right. I won't limit free speech. I don't even want to go there, right, it's horrific, horrific, and how you get there in a democracy. The other

It's six' oh one on a Tuesday morning, and we were with state police as they rated this upon Hartman in northwest Germany, just.

To put it inside them humid inside.

Six armed officers searched to suspects home, then seized his laptop and cell phone. Prosecutors say those electronics may have been used to commit a crime, the crime posting a racist cartoon online At the exact same time across Germany.

All the online as homes for Swiss Neunivorald.

More than fifty similar raids played out part of what prosecutors say is a coordinated effort to curb online hate speech in Germany.

And the one guy points out, maybe it will be in one of these clips, the seven thousand cases or something that they investigated last year. Wow, that's a lot in a country much smaller than the United States. Imagine what that would look like in the United States. And hate speech, of course, the one of the problems with hate speech being who's determining its hate speech, who's making the judgment on that? Yes, Sharon ALFONSI helpful.

He just saved us the trouble and told us the cartoon was racist, putting aside whether you know you should limit free speech on the basis of quote unquote racism anyway, But yeah, what did it say?

In what sense? Was it racist? Who is it racist against?

What?

Give me the specifics you're asking for the right to censor me, and you just say, take my word, it was terrible.

This part is amazing.

What's the typical reaction when the police show up at somebody's door and they say, hey, we believe you wrote this on the internet.

They say in Germany, we say, that's a bit more motives off my zagen. And so we are here with crimes of talking posting an internet and the people are surprised that this is really illegal to post these kind of words.

They don't think it was illegal.

Oh, they don't think it was illegal. And they say, no, that's my free speech. And we said no, we have free speech as well, but it also has his limits.

I see, I don't.

I can't.

I've got to accept that.

It's just true that obviously, smart people in charge of things can say words like that. How can you sail it free speech as its limits?

Well, then it's not free speech. You just nullified the first part of your sentence. What the second part of the sentence.

Everybody understands that there are certain limits, but they are extremely limited limits. The people like this just say, hey, because there are limits, there can be more limits, and I will decide what limits there are.

Control your soul's desire for freedom.

Yeah, that's which I respond. No, you don't get to decided, No freaking way control your soul's desire for freedom. They say in China. This part amaze me. I was unaware of this.

It's illegal to display Nazi symbolism. A Swasaka denied the Holocaust. That's that's clear. Is it a crime to insult somebody in public? Yes, yes, and it's a crime to insult them online as well.

Yes. The fine could be even higher.

Yeah, if you insult someone in the internet, why because in Internet it stays there. If we are talking at face to face, you insult me and sold you okay, finish. But if you're in the internet, if I insult you or a politician.

It sticks around forever. Yeah. So she says to these three people, it's a fine.

There's a fine too if you insult someone, and they'll just say yeah, like you know, of course.

What what what defines an insult?

And folks keep in mind, remember we're still in the era certainly on university campuses and in government and some other places where if you are insulted, that's proof that the other person is done wrong.

You remember, I didn't mean that to be racist.

It doesn't matter what you meant, it's how I received it. So you give the person receiving it the carte blanche to declare whatever they want to be insulting or hurtful or racist or abusive Islam or whatever, and therefore that.

Falls within Well, that's hate speech.

Sorry, we're going to take away your right to say any to make any criticism that any anybody could even implausibly claim is insulting.

It's horrible. So somebody posts the Chancellor is a moron, I assume that would be a crime. Maybe you didn't post it, maybe you just did this.

If somebody posts something that's not true and then somebody else reposts it or likes it, are they committing a crime.

In the case of reposting it as a crime as well, because the reader contstinguished whether you just invented this or just reposted it.

That's the same for us.

So when I was listening to that one, I was thinking about it was an official Biden Harris campaign ad that way we had playing in the United States. Donald Trump threatens a bloodbath if he loses, which was absolutely a lie in misinformation on the side that sixty minutes is on. Would you consider that a crime or only when it's coming from the other side. See, that's where the rubber meets the road on this whole thing, and it gets, you know, unworkable.

Yeah.

I happen to have a couple of articles, think pieces, etc. That point out how incredibly one sided this is. It's just a lust for power the other thing that really and it's funny, we're talking about one of the most fundamental human rights that any human beings ever enjoyed. But you know what annoyed the crap out of me was when they're and I'm not sure if we have these clips, but they were talking about the fines, which are fairly heavy. I mean it's thousands of dollars in fines and multiple

They don't get them back.

And Sharon al Fonzie said, your phone, wow, because everything's on there.

That is tough.

And she was amused at the idea of these people who indulged in what the Germans are calling hate speech getting their devices taken away and not getting access to them anymore. She thought that was funny, an insensitive joke. They come and take your laptop and your phone and you don't get it back, and it's a certain crowd that that's awesome. This story I found amusing, but it was a twenty.

Twenty one case involving a local politician named Andy Grote that captured the country's attention. Growth complained about a tweet that called him a pimmel, a German word for the male anatomy, that triggered a police raid and accusations of excessive censorship by the government. As prosecutors explained to us, in Germany, it's okay to debate politics online, but it can't be a crime to call anyone a pimmel, even

Exactly.

Yeah, commen's like your son of a bitch, excuse me forward. This words has nothing to do with a political discussions or a contribution to a discussion.

That's amazing.

It's one of the great kanards that sensors use. Here's an example where I'm censoring something reasonably right, and then you're supposed to extrapolate from there. Therefore, I trust you to censor whenever you want. F you no, and you are a Pimmel. You're a table full of Pimmels, right. I kept thinking that as they used various examples. I thought, Yeah, it'd be nice if you could censor that and not other stuff. But once you open the door, then you start making choices and who's making those.

Choices, and it gets out of hand really really fast.

We all lived through this in the United States, so we know how off track this can get so fast. When it was basically against the rules to say, you know, I think the virus probably came out of that lab, you couldn't say it for a couple of years.

Yeah, or you would be punished, maybe not by law enforcement in the ways we're used to, but you would be punished by proxy by the government.

And CBS, it would seem. And many others.

A lot of college professors want it to be against the law to post misinformation and again misinformation like if you get the inoculation, you can still get COVID and you can still spread it.

That is dangerous misinformation. Wow, it's scary. One hundred percent true.

They're so enthusiastic about it there in Germany, and then we got and then CBS is enthusiastic about it too.

That is freaking frightening. We got a lot more on the way now.

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Why are all lights losers hanging out at the DMV? Where are the regular people? There are no regular people the DMV. It's almost entirely losers, like in line there and stuff you.

Hang it out, Oh yes, sitting line.

Never know either's like would be. It's got a bit of a Homer Simpson White. Are the things that happen to stupid people keep happening to me. But you don't look around and see anybody. I mean, I thought this when I was twenty five, so this isn't like me now. I've always thought this. It's like serving well, every car parked in the parking lot is like Dennett and missing hubcaps and got you know, a plastic bag over one window. The percentage of people with either a crutch or a

And I don't know why it is. I've always wondered that. Now.

I tweeted that out and some people said, well, those of it that there is a separate one for those of us who are life's losers.

It's called Triple A.

And I did discover that in my thirties that if you're a member of Triple A, a lot of the stuff you can do there. The thing I'm doing bringing a car in from another state, you have to go to the DMV. California tries to make it impossible to bring a car in from another state because there are ultimate goals to have no cars.

That is the goal of the state of California. They hate cars and they would like to get rid of them. So you're always.

Everybody in evs, which tear up the highways, which are already bad.

Yeah, and I'm registerrying to register an EV and it's still just as hard. But anyway, that aside, I had a point of Oh somebody did point out though, because I got into a lot of conversations online because I had two hours to kill wondering about this question. Is that uh, further down the ladder of life working out for you, or when you're young you drive cheap cars that have you know, more difficulties, and you swap cars more often, and just with with other crappy cars. Just

I'm speaking for myself.

I know that if if if I, for since it had gotten the FORMA X thirty four or B in on time, I wouldn't have to be standing in that damn line. And there's definitely a correlation between ability to be organized and think ahead and success in life. You either have it or in my case, you marry it and thereby avoid a lot of the trips.

But anyway, well, it's insane that we can't have a simpler system though that I know a lot of it has gone online, but it all should be easily doable online, shouldn't it?

Why not? Yes, clearly. I wonder if AI can get a wrap on this someday where there's a dmv AI thing that can tell you, no, you need this form, click here and you'll have the form, and then you fill out the form and it's submitted on the computer.

And all of this is nonsense of waiting in line for hours. And this didn't happen to me, thank god, but I saw it happened to practically everybody around me, waiting in line for hours to be told no, you need thirty four b you have thirty four.

Oh that's so Soviet Union. That is so evil. Actually, Elon Muskin, the Doge boys.

They're getting all the attention for cutting this and firing them over there, but one of the main priorities they have is updating the ridiculously antiquated and unconnected computer systems of the government, and I would love to see that

Haven't seen it.

It could be that all of the alphabet networks in the usual suspects that New York Times have no interest in it because it undercuts their narrative of it's just a handful of frat boys on meth running around firing nice, innocent people with families, when indeed that's not it at all.

I actually hadn't been in a DMB in quite a few years, so I was trying to take the multiple hours as an opportunity to just observe, you know, our government system at work. I also committed myself to knowing that I wouldn't get accomplished where I wanted to accomplish in one trip, and I didn't, but to having a cheerful look about it as I watched so many people get angry and thinking, you've made yourself miserable, You've made the person that works there even a little more hardened

But I thought, how do you do that job?

How could you do that job for a day and not end up the way a lot of DMV drone people are.

The person I worked with was very cheerful and nice, but a lot of them aren't, and I could.

I don't know how you could work that job one week without being one just a mindless boredom of it, and then that everybody being mad at you.

It's really inhumane to subject someone to doing that. Yeah, I don't know how you would do that. I agree.

It's not an excuse exactly for being mean or abusive, but I understand it having out with a public fair amount, especially in younger jobs.

I think it's how TSA people end up where they are too, although with the added benefit for both of those jobs if you can't be fired, because working in retail is a lot of that too, and you have to keep your cheerful out look because they can fire you and get somebody different, So you have to overcome the whole The customers pissed me off are trong, Hey, Jettie,