We Would Have Said So. David Drucker talks to Armstrong & Getty

you have, it's so old man himself. So I'm looking at the text line a little bit before we get to one of our favorite analysts. Quote, my report was perfectly clear. He's both maybe maybe guilty and maybe maybe innocent. I hope this will end all speculation unquote. That's pretty well said. My friend also got a number of these. If we thought he was innocent, we'd have said that, but we didn't say he was innocent. Connect the dots, the nation of idiots from the UH Trump he quitted

a crime. Crowd. Mueller was, Look, there's another way to do this. Lots of information there again in Dyke, there's another policy. Idiots. Are you following me? Are you tracking? It seems like he might be doing that. It rhymes with slim peachment. David Drucker, senior political correspondent for The Washington Examiner, joins us David, welcome, sir, It's good to talk to you. What was your takeaway, Well, it was

a little bit more interesting than I expected. On one hand, I feel like what Muller did was basically reiterate what was in his written report. But the two items that are going to make a lot of news and that he appeared to put a lot of emphasis on, we're one the fact that he was following Justice departments in guideline that that say a city president cannot be charged with the crime, and he used the reasoning that the Special Counsel's Office, being that it is a part of

the Artment of Justice, was bound by those guidelines. Not everybody agrees, but that's the choice Mueller made. To me, The bigger one was his quote where he said, and I tweeted this quickly, so I think I have it right, but other people also have this. If we had had confidence that the president had clearly not committed a crime,

we would have said so. Now this is directly in the face of what the president has been saying about the Moulla report, generating him it also contradicts Attorney General Bill Barrs Rosie summary of the Mola report, and it's going to, on the one hand, probably infuriate the president, but on the other hand, make it harder for Speaker

Nancy Pelosi too to put the brakes on impeachment. Okay, That's what I was gonna ask you about, because I'm seeing a bunch of speculation from the smartest talking heads. Joe also said he thinks it's more likely to impeachment happens. Now do you agree with that? Well, certainly the pressure to make it happens, it will be ratching it up on David. Sorry, yeah, no, I mean I I think Look, I think Pelosi has been smart about trying to avoid impeachment.

There is not broad political support for impeachment. The Senate, controlled by Republicans, most of whom are very loyal to Trump, are not going to provide the votes to impeach, and so that the president is not going to be removed. And in a weird way, politically, the president could um come out ahead via an impeachment inquiry unless they're able to dig up information that we're not aware of that would change public opinions. So I think the Speaker has

been smart about this. Just just engage in aggressive oversight, avoid the politics, the risky politics of impeachment. There's an election next year. Beat him at the ballot box. That's the best way to go. Um. This makes it harder, though, because Democrats have been hitching for impeachment more and more in the House, responding both their liberal base but also they're reading of the Mulla report itself, and this is

just going to be more fuel on that fire. When what Muller said, it doesn't make it easier for Nancy Pelosi today to keep the holl On Maha quiet. Well, here's the cynical view. If I was say AOC, I would say, listen, the leadership is cowardly. They're not going to do this unless there is overwhelming support among the American people, and that will force the Republicans to do

the right thing. The non cynical view of it is, the American people have heard all of this, maybe in slightly different form, but we've we know all of it. It's baked in the poll numbers have not changed and probably will not change. And frankly, if the people are not calling for impeachment, you could make the case that the people end up being the jury through their representatives anyway,

so don't impeach. I think as a matter of political strategy that Democrats would be much better off engaging in very aggressive oversight, which I don't think hurts them at all and in many ways helps. But but stopping short of impeachment from a political standpoint, especially because there's an election next year, and in this way they can let the American people be the judge, I think that is better for our system. But it also I think would

protect Democrats from overreach. But I don't think they're going to be able to stop themselves from overreach. Um, if the information flow continues the way it is. Well, Davidrucker, we sure appreciate you coming on on short notice on this, and we'll be following your Twitter and your columns and all that sort of stuff. We appreciate it. Yeah, go

get them. Thanks, all right. I wanted to point out on Trump side, and for anybody who's supporting Trump, this this idea of Mueller coming out and saying if we could have proved him innocent, we would we would have said it, but we couldn't. That's a ridiculous standard. Piving anybody innocent. That's that's almost the proving a negative. I mean, it's well, yeah, you you'd be impossible. So him saying that, I'm not sure that's a fair thing for any prosecutor

to say. If I could prove unison, I would have and I couldn't. Well, that's not the way this justice system works. Yeah, I find that very strange, and I find it strange how little that's being challenged. Um, but it's it's just people are people are gonna run with that all day long, especially on CNN, and that's a ridiculous standard. Well, this is all political and that's politics too.

So but Muller, what you got coming up in your news Marshall, Well, we got Robert Mueller's first public statement on his Russian investigation. We will review some more of those highlights and Robert Bolton's coming out saying Iran is behind terror acts and then with against the Southeast coming up. All right, got that on his plate to Mr that's right. The rest of the world. Arm Strong and Getty show

are strong and we're standing. Department policy. A president president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office. That is unconstitutional. Even if the charge is kept under sealed and hidden from public view, that too is prohibited. Sorr. We are we talking now? I don't know? Um uh so A. Mueller gave his report a little bit ago. We're gonna jaw about it. Let's get the

news now with Marshall. Yeah. For the first time in more than two years, Special Counsel Robert Mueller talked publicly about the key findings in his Russia investigation. Mueller summarizing those a few minutes ago, saying that one thing, charging President Trump with a crime was not going to be an option because of d O J guideline. We did, not, however, make a determination as to whether the president did commit a crime. The introduction to the Volume two of our

report explains that decision. It explains that, under longstanding Department policy, a president president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office. Now. Miller also went on to say, if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so. As for the Russian mentaling in the election, Mueller said, as alleged by the Grand Jury in an indictment, Russian intelligence officers who are part of the Russian military launched

a concerted attack on our political system. The indictment alleges that they use sophisticated cyber techniques to hack into computers and networks used by the Clinton campaign. They stole private information and then released that information through fake online and identities and through the organization wiki leaks. Yeah, we we

know all that stuff. Um the I'm reading through a rereading big chunks of the Muller Report about the alleged, um well, sort of kind of alleged obstruction of justice, and and I've got to read the whole thing because it's a bit of a head scratcher, page after page after page of discussion of the President and or Hope Picks and or Don Jr. Or whomever um issuing statements to the press that were misleading according the report about the infamous June ninth meeting at Trump Tower with the

Russian gall and who said, I guess that they had, you know, dirt on Hillary. But it's page after page after page of this draft of the email. Then the President said to Hope Picks, and Hope Picks was concerned, and then her assistant said blah blah blah, and then the analysis is most of that was directed or all of that was directed at the press, and we didn't find any of the president or as people trying to halt access to this to our investigation or Congress or

anybody official. So all of that was directed to the press. Now that's some serious investigating, and it's kind of interesting to hear how the spin room works. But he has pages of stuff that is irrelevant to his investigation. It's obstruction of the media. So, like I said, I gotta read the rest of it. Where does he get there? He talks a lot about the president saying a Corey Lewindowski or whatever, you gotta talk to Sessions, we gotta get rid of the sky. Then people saying yeah, yeah,

I'll get on that, but not getting on it. So and I'm telling you the question of our will they impeach and will and it's gonna be obstruction to justice name then impeach on so far that it's just weak. The evidence is weak unless you think a blustery businessman saying you gotta fire the guy and his assistant saying now, we're not going to do that is obstruction to justice.

Maybe you do, I don't know. Meanwhile, we've got Nationals Purity Advisor John Bolton saying Navy minds almost certainly from Iran word of blame for the oil tanker damage earlier this month in the Gulf of Oman. He's made it claim today during a visit to the United Arab Embrutson told reporters it is clear that Iran is behind the attack. He didn't provide any specific evidence to support the allegation.

Four ships were sabotaged to the gulf on May twelve, two from Saudi Arabia, one from Norway, one from the U a E. So Bolton is saying, yes, yes, we're sure or certainly almost sure that these uh, these attacks were guided by Iran. By the way, I'm just looking at the text line on the whole Mueller thing, and I'm guessing looking at the text and then I can see previous texts from these people. It's yet another event to the Mueller thing that no human being is going

to feel any different than they felt before. From the Mueller statement. Yeah, that's probably true. People that support Trump feel the same way they felt before, and the people that thought Trump should be booted out felt the same way, feel the same way they felt Yeah, I'm not sure there's anything that would move the needle at all. So which makes you wonder why we go through all this? Well,

I think Drucker is probably right. The Democrats know that impeaching the guy would be a mistake because they just don't have the American people with them, um, and so they will posture, they will investigate, there will be aggressive oversight, and that's it. Well, I don't know where that leaves us. Got a new report by the Associated Press, it finds that managers with the foreign arm of Perdue Pharma have been caught up in an opioid corruption probe in Italy.

They allegedly paid a pain doctor hundreds of thousands of dollars to help them sell more drugs. One American congresswoman's responding with concern that international health organizations have not learned the lesson of the US addiction epidemic. It's the first known case outside the US where managers of the vast pharma empire have been criminally implicated. Yeah, this this story

is far from over. What's really compelling about it is that we're not talking about, well, you made a drug that's addictive, and now people are addicted and we're mad at you. I mean, it isn't the idiotic you made a ladder and somebody fell off of it type of lawsuit. Or now they have to have stickers on every ladder saying gravity will pull you to the earth rapidly if

you fall off and hurt. You know these are material uh you know, there's material evidence of lies and misleading doctors in the public about the addictive quality equalities because they've done the studies, and then bribing of doctors to pump out as much as they possibly can, and all sorts of evil doing specific evil doing. One last note, something completely different. Although we did talk a little bit earlier about what your smartphone and the apps are learning

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I guess I got ahead of myself. I should have described what I'm thinking about. There are is a substantial group of Democrats, especially that thinks the President ought to be impeached, and they'll be trying to make the case for obstruction of justice to get the American people to go along with it. I think they're doomed. I think

everybody's attitudes about the President are baked in. But I'm looking at what appears to be to me the media ist parts or one of the meaty parts of the Mulla report that you could use to charge obstruction, and it's it's the president drags drags. He calls lord, uh, what's his name, Corey Corey Ludandowski into the small into the Oval office and says, listen, you gotta tell us

the Sessions. I want you to go talk to Jeff Sessions, because you know, tell him to say I know I recused myself, but our president is being treated very unfairly. He shouldn't have a special Prosecutor Council because he hasn't done anything wrong. I was with him. There are no Russians involved with him. We gotta limit the scope of

this to future elections because this is crazy. And then it's I haven't gotten to the pirate, where it explains whether Lewandowski, oh um, he wanted to pass the message Sessions in person other instead of over the phone. Lewandowski called an arranged from meeting, but Sessions had to counsel

canceled due to a last minute of conflict. Shortly thereafter, Lewandowski left Washington, d C. Without having an opportunity to meet with Sessions to convey the message, and so he stored the notes at his home and more or less

forgot about it. So listen, and I'm not trying to tell you the answer I think I well, I know the answer politically, the answers No, here's the question, can the Democrats convince enough Americans and thereby such a flood of opinion that it convinces enough Republican Senators that telling Corey Lewandowski to go talk to Jeff Sessions to unrecuse himself because I didn't collude, And this whole thing is stupid and Lewandowski just getting turned down once and staying

at a hell with it and going home if that's obstruction of justice, If you think it is, then you gotta impeach. I guess, well, you certainly could impeach, but I'm telling you that is not nearly compelling enough to sway the minds of enough Americans. So you're gonna hear people howling for it. But you know, you get to howl in America, Jack, it's the First Amendment, the freedom of howling. There's an America get there. So what's his name?

The guy who does the media show on Fox. He was talking about the other day how the media should catch on to the fact that the the the House Democrats are conducting impeachment without calling an impeachment. That's what they're currently doing. Good description, and more people should catch on to that. That is, that is what actually what's happening, and it might be a good political employ Well, I think that's the best one they have. You dodge the

whole you impeach the president thing. Do you get all the benefit of it for your side? Yeah, except for booting a guy out of office. Has an election for that like sixteen months, and that's not on the table anyway. That's not gonna happen because the Senate wouldn't convict. That's what we're just talking about. Yeah, there there are Democrats who are going to try to build the case that this is clearly obstruction America. Come on, who's with me?

They will fail in that effort, But should the impeachment without calling an impeachment? I think is your best option if you're a Democrat, super Well, that's gonna keep the anchors and anchor ats of CNN and MSNBC employed for at least another year and a half. And it's a tough way to make a living, so I congratulate them on their continued employment. God, we need this election. We need this election to happen sooner. Can we move it

up as if we have a parliament. I'm going for Snapolis just to get it settled once and for all. If there's enough people that want to keep trumpet office, then he stays, and then you gotta shut up about it. You just have to shut up about it and have him serve a five month and five months the five year and five months term. Because we moved up the election just to shut everybody up. I wonder if this idea has been floated, we go ahead. I think we've got it solved. Actually,