Yes, there are some, and the press makes more of a fuss about the two they and the two hundred who were over half of the Congress, after half of the of the Democrats and the House sit on one of these six committees, so they're all on a path of finding more information. That's Nancy Policy, Speaker of the House, making the point yesterday, and I you know, I think she wanted to be on a microphone and say this, look that I got like thirty eight people that are
for impeachment and two hundred that are not. Now we are investigating and doing all that, but it's not even close to the majority. I just heard CNN say there's gonna be no impeachment unless Nancy wants it. How does that work? I know the committee votes out recommendation for impeachment or but does the Speaker of the House have to put up that? Could she just say no, Well, you know what, even if all of them wanted to do it, could could the Speaker of the House say no,
we're not We're not taking this up. I'm pretty sure I know the answer to that question. But I am certain that ln he Chen knows. He's the host of the podcast Crossing Lindes with lan he Channe, also David and Diane Stephy, Research Fellow at the Hoover Institution and Director of Domestic Policy Studies and Lecturer in Public Policy at Stanford University. Lan he how are you, sir? Good morning? Never dull moment? Oh my god. Truer words have never
been spoken. So to Jack's question, could Nancy hold up impeachment single handedly? Yeah, I don't think she can do it single handedly. What she is trying to do, obviously, is she's trying to sway the view of people in the Democratic concuss And the question is how many people are loyal to her versus how many people are not.
And if at some point it becomes clear that there's an overwhelming majority of her own people who say, look, we've got to proceed to impeachment proceedings, that there's not a whole time she could do. I mean, she could weigh on people who support her, She could weigh on people who are loyal to her, but as that number shrinks, if people feel it's important for them to move forward, she's not going to be able to hold this up on her own. No, okay, just because they vote her
out or what would happen. Yeah, I mean, certainly they that's one possibility that she refused to bring it to the floor, they probably boot her. But we're nowhere near in a majority. Were at a points, so it's not
even close. Yeah, I think I think we have to be careful about about following some of the media narrative on this, because I think that while it's true there's a lot of very vocal people in the Democratic Party, including pretty much everybody who's running for president, saying that Trump needs to be impeached, the reality is that a lot of the rank and file Democrats in the House, that's not where they are. So we have to keep
a close eye on where these numbers go. Now, if it starts to creep up toward let's say a hundred people or more than that, uh, then she's got an issue. But for now, we're still talking about a relatively smaller but very vocal minority. And I know exactly what you're talking about because as I watched cable news yesterday, particularly CNN and MSNBC to hear what they're saying, all the hosts, all the guests thought it was imperative that they moved
forward with impeachment. I mean, without exception really on those two channels. Well, right, it's it's a media narrative and that's being driven by who has the biggest microphone, and right now in the Democratic Party, it's not Nancy Pelosi.
It's the people running for president. And when you have the vast majority of people, I don't know if it's a vast shouldn't say vast majority, but I think it is close to a majority, if not more than that, who are interested in in proceeding to impeach Donald Trump. That is why you hear this constantly, because those guys are always on TV talking about whatever and and and
so those are the ones who are driving this dialog. Well, I thought it was interesting though, the the guy that's got more more heff than all of them added together currently,
Joe Biden. He didn't say a word yesterday. Well yeah, he probably will at some point, but listen, I just wanted to interject that a lot of the people howling for impeachment are are like you know, if I know my wife is going to say no, there's no way we get ice cream, I can say all day long, I'm with you, as we ought to get ice cream. Ice cream is delicious, it's a nourishing treat. It's never gonna happen. But I get all the credits, So it's it's it's so phony. Uh, you know that that that's
a great point. I can say that's a great point. I mean, this whole impeachment discussion is phony, because what we've got to realize is that it's a political discussion. As much as these people who favor impeachment want to talk about it, as you know they you'll hear them talking about obstruction of justice and being a legal issue,
it's not a legal issue. It's a political question. It was a political question when they impeach Clinton in the same thing, and and and and so I just wish we would have a more genuine discussion about what's really going on here. Okay, well, what do you put the percentages of an impeachment to proceeding happening at right now? Likelihood?
The likelihood? Yeah, I probably put it at one and four one and between one and four, one and three, So still not extremely likely, but not well enough percentage that people can't ignore it. Yeah, I just I don't see what's going to change it. The entirety of the Mula report was out and did not move the polls, and I odah, And then you've got old man Mueller speaking. I'm certain that won't change it. And in a very recent Quinnipiac poll, fifty of people say yeah, Trump committed
crimes before he became president. About six percent say he's committed crimes. Wally was president, he had a paltry twenty nine percent support even the beginning of the process to
impeach the president. It's not gonna happen. Yeah, I mean, I think the only the only factor I would add to that, and I think all that data makes a lot of sense, is that if you look at the data amongst Democratic partisans, if you look at the data amongst Democratic partisans are self identified Democratic primary voters, I bet those numbers are a lot higher. And so certainly
for the presidential candidates, that's what they care about. And then even for some of these Democrats who, let's say they're more moderate but they're concerned about being primary from the left, they may end up having to move left towards that positioning to to protect themselves. And so I think that's the dynamic we don't know enough about yet. How lathered up. Is the Democratic base gonna get in terms of agitating for for impeachment and demanding that their
people do it. Does lanh Chen watch Game one of the NBA Finals time or the Michael Bennett's CNN Hound Home but neither neither. I watched the Dodgers Mets game. Wow. Wow, early season baseball questionable on the line, right, So listen to the narrative from the President and the Republicans is that the Democrats aren't legislating, they're investigating. They need to stop. To what extent is that true? To what extent has significant legislation installed? And we have about forty seconds for
your answer. Well, look, I think I think it's true that there's no legislative action happening in terms of stuff going through the House and the Senate. I think the House and Senate individually are doing things, but it's almost like Mars and Venus. They're not really really talking to each other and they're not doing a whole lot together.
I take the president's point, which is it's difficult for him to work together with Democrats when he every day all Democrats want to do is try and and and counter him and try and get him out of office.
So it's a fair and legitimate concern. But I think everybody just needs to grow up and let's get some things done to the American people, because Gosh knows that there's a lot of stuff that needs to get done here over these next several months and years, not the least of which, by the way, is dealing with the debt. That's the sort of thing you hear on crossing lines with lan he Chan will have a link at Armstrong and Gutty dot com. Ln he always enlightening. Thanks a million, Good with you, guys.