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our part. I don't want to send self aggrandizing We broke the story written by a fabulous student journalist at the University of California and Davis about a professor who is on campus teaching openly advocating the murder of police officers. And I'm not being you know, I'm not parsoning, I'm not being lawyerly about it. The guy openly says cops should be killed, and the University of California Davis and they're easier to their easier to kill when their backs
are turned. One of his many comments incredible. He said, many people say the police should be reformed, they should be killed. That's what he says. And the response from the University of California system has been as you might expect, mealy mouthed, legalistic and pathetic, citing Title nine among other things. Um. But the but the righteous indignation of the good and normal people of America is starting to be aroused as they hear more about this story, and we've invited James
Gallagher on. James is an assemblyman in California representing the third District who is actually he's the product of the University of California system and joins us now to talk about it. Hey, James, how are you. Good morning, gentlemen. Good to be with you. It's our pleasure. So listen.
We here at the Armstrong and Getty Show. We we have kind of a libertarian point of view of things, and we don't like people faking outrage and demanding people lose their jobs because they said some unfortunate or controversial and that where you just agree with them, right. We don't like that. Um, And so you know, people who know us, no, it's pretty extraordinary for us to say this is so horrific that the guy should not be in front of young people teaching them. What's your point
of view about Professor Joshua Clover at the you see Davis. No, I mean, and I listened to this show, by the way, it's a great show. Thank you. And you know, see when I started to read this article and got forwarded to me actually by my wife. Um. You know, as I went through this thing, I the matter I got, you know, and you know, I just just to see that this guy the things that he had said, and then when he was confronted about it, actually would not recant,
actually said, well, the real answer is to disband the police. Um. And so you're you're really in this outlandis stuff. And then I you know, I I texted a couple of my buddies, you know, sending this study. They also are Davis grads, and I said, can you believe you know that this is the kind of stuff that's coming out of the university that we received our degrees from, you know. Um, And you know, as I talked to more and more people, it's the same response, the same response that you gentlemen
had yesterday morning when you were talking about this story. Um, I will say just one of the same day, as I'm reading this article, I'm like, man, this guy is a really good writer. A little bit jealous to myself, so that that was also the point of Um for a college scene is really a hell of a writer
in journalist anyway, go ahead, yeah, great piece. And then you know, just so as we started talking to people and and uh, and I actually did put in a call to the university, UM saying, hey, if you haven't hear anybody else, you know, you can log it for me. Um, you know, this guy should be fired period. I mean, there's no room for this. This is not this is no, this is not a legitimate act in academic freedom has
no legitimate purpose towards you know, anything academic and nature. Um, then it's it's clearly an incitement to violence, you know, against a selected group of people. What do you think is a guy who's pretty up on these issues that they fell back on Title nine saying well, police aren't a protected class under Title nine, so our teachers can navocate murdering them. Well, to be honest, I don't know exactly what Title nine says or doesn't say. Um, I
think everybody it's this is kind of intrinsic. I think to all of us, UM, that free speech does not mean that, for example, you can go punch someone in the face for advocating a certain view on campuses. Happened on Berkeley campus a couple of weeks ago. And it doesn't mean that you can advocate for the death. Uh, you know, ask people to go out and kill people for whom that you have some sort of disagreement with. It's clearly not free speech. You know. In common a
place we are in our politics is U Republicans. Um, how about how awful university campus are in Democrats stand up for university campuses. Do you have colleagues that are Democrats that think this is a bridge too far that they're willing to to side with you? Um? Well, I haven't had a whole lot of conversations with my Democratic colleagues yet on this, but yeah, I think that there's a lot of Democratic members of the legislature who would
also say this is completely unacceptable. And I think it's only people on the very radical, you know, very very radical left who might stand up for this guy. I can't imagine how many people are that far out there. James Gallagher's a California assemblyman and uh, and we are aiding him in an online petition to get this Joshua Clover fired from the University of California at the very least, um, and and we'd love for you to go to Armstrong
and Getty radio dot com and and sign it. Uh. The response from the University of California is unintentionally hilarious. The basis for academic freedom is to make sure that the university is a place where unpopular and different views are heard in the way of banning any speaker to the right of Mitt Romney for years, allowing the Heckler's veto, and the fact that self identified liberals out the out number self identified conservatives roughly seventy to one on California
college campuses. That is some of the finest most dry humor I have heard, uh in a lifetime. And I credit the who is at the chancellor, whoever it is, um with some really hilarious stuff there. Um, what do you say to the argument that they make, Well, it's academic freedom, assemblyman. You know, we have to have unpopular
views on campus. Who as a as an someone who went to undergrad at Berkeley, I'm kind of used to this type of stuff actually, And um, uh, you know, I was a conservative student who was part of the college Republicans on campus often said, never trust a college republican.
I think a lot of liberals. But anyway, that's I haven't heard you say that, but you know, on that campus, you know, it was it was pretty clear that the university you know, oftentimes uh, you know, talks about diversity, he talks about diversity of thought, UM, but in many cases it was, you know, as long as it's a liberal perspective, um. And then you know, in these cases, I just like, why can't they figure this out? You know, of course we want to diverse uh, diverse viewpoints and
and ideas expressed and talked about, UM. But that doesn't mean that you allow for this kind of hateful dialogue that's calling for death and hart and bodily harm to people.
It doesn't mean you allow for people with viewpoints to be shouted down, you know and beaten, uh, you know, and when Ben Shapiro comes to campus, you know, allowing people to you know, basically beat people and throw molotov cocktails at the uh, you know, campus buildings, you know, white you see, and some of these other you know, the University of California and others figure this out that what free speech actually means. James Gallagher California Assemblyman James.
We appreciate at the time and you're helping out on this because we think it's important. You know, one note just for folks who don't remember, are not familiar with it, Davis, California, is where very close to the campus on one of the main arteries where students come and go. A a beautiful in spirit. Twenty two year old young woman was a young police officer, was executed by an anti cop guy. He was a troubled guy, obviously, but she was murdered
in cold blood. You know, a ten minute walk from where this guy teaches, advocating the murder of police officers. And it's just it's absolutely unconscionable. And again we don't twist words around here. I mean, it's easier to shoot cops when their backs are turned. No, he tweeted. I'm thankful that every living cop will one day be dead.
He tweeted. In an extended and review with San Francisco Weekly, just a couple of years ago, people think that cops need to be reformed, they need to be killed, he said. Beautiful teaching your kids at an extremely high cost. If you're a professor who said abortion is murder regularly in your class. You'd be done right right, hope please, you'd never get hired. No immigrants should be deported immediately. You'd never get you wouldn't get an interview. I like to murder.
I think you should murder cops. Oh sure, remember in good standing of the academia. When you're ready to ride Metro, we want you to know we're ready for you. Here are just a few of the people at Metro to tell you how we're doing our part to keep riders safe. We're cleaning before you've found halfs out of suns of statist no mask, no Metro need one. We have a few extras at Metro. We're doing our part to keep the DC area moving. Find out more at well not a dot com m slash doing our part
