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Joe Biden: A Serious (and Handsy) 2020 Candidate? Debra J. Saunders talks to A&G

Apr 02, 201910 min
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Las Vegas Review-Journal White House correspondent Debra J. Saunders joins Armstrong & Getty to talk about Joe Biden's troubles. Does Debra think that he was seriously considering a 2020 run?

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It's definitely not okay. I mean, smelling hair is always weird, all right. I don't care who it is, even if you're in a relationship. If you smell your girlfriend's hair, she won't say anything, but in her head she'll be like, is he a serial killer? Like, honestly, smelling is one of the creepiest things you can do. It's it's on the list of creepy things. It's right after collecting doll pots and sneezing with your eyes open. You know, the

press line is hilarious, but the premise is wrong. Collecting doll parts, the scent of hair care products is like everything modern unit Smelling other people's hair, I mean, clean hair smells nice, but you can be sniffing people if you're in a relationship. That's it's just wrong, wrong with hair. So that's interesting. No one took a shot at it.

I don't see any jokes from the other people. UM watching the left leaning media CNN, MSNBC, they talked almost none about Biden in the hair smellings yesterday, So I thought, okay, the left, which gets to decide who their candidate is, has decided they're not that into this story. Deborah J. Saunders is the White House correspondent for the Las Vegas Review Journal. She has a B A in Greek and Latin. Well risk if so local is what I say, Deborah,

how are you? Uh, nobody's smelling my hair today? Which is the superior language? Would you like me to? That's a. That's a great question. So Greek or Latin? I like Greek better because there are no rules. But the truth is, the older you get, the more you appreciate Latin because it's easier to understand. How many times have I said that Greek has no rules? Well, okay, like early ancient Greek,

who was pre grammar. The Romans came up with grammar, so you could go nown noun verbs just for some reason, and well, the way that you would like the spelling could be different, all sorts of If you read Homer in Greek, which I have done, Uh, there'll be different spell lanes um for different words. You might be too good for this show. I've just determined. I've watched I've watched Homer on Sunday nights. Oh my god, I understood everything he said. So that's impressive. People can't read it,

including me, can't read it in English. You read it in Greek. I did, Okay, how you're too good for the show. That's what's been determined. So as long as your patients for slumming it holes out, I guess we'll talk to you about some of the stories of the day. So listen, old uncle Joe Biden, the whole sniffing, stroking, leaning in thing, creepy sexual grandfatherly, what's the viber on decent?

And how much are people talking about it? Um? People are definitely talking about it, And I think a lot of people feel that this is sort of let me just tell you, I didn't think he was going to run. I don't think he's running in I think that the fact that he hasn't announced yet is important. It's harder for you to get new staff when you wait this late. And I think he dislikes flirting with the idea, but he doesn't really want to necessarily put himself or his

family through this. Let me back up just for a second, because you mentioned it getting in this late. Trump didn't get until June, and is the president? So is it is the time just shifted with this crowd or what? Well? I mean, look at all the look at all the candidates who have real teams working for them right now. Um, and Trump, of course didn't have a team for he didn't need a team. He didn't need a team. But anybody else who's writing, who's in politics, they want to

have a bunch of operatives. They want to have people raising money for them, they want to have uh, they want to have their own communications team, and they need field reps and everything else. So Trum Trump, of course is the exception to every rule. But if you're a Democratic politician, you're going to want to have the staff in place. And he does have loyal people around him. And there are people who love Joe Biden. I hear he is like the nicest guy in the world. Lots

of people say that on right and left. But as the ancient Greeks say, a jackdaws always found near a jackdaw. Joe was googling while you were talking at the top of my head, roughly equivalent to birds of a feather flock together. That's interesting you say that that. I'll always remember Um, former Secretary of Defense and CIA director Gates saying, and he's a Republican of of Joe Biden. Everybody likes Joe Biden. He's wrong on everything, but everybody likes him.

That's been his vibe forever. He just it's got weird boundary issues he does, but he would be a hands on commander and cheese get it. Um. But but man, the knives are out for him. She got those stories coming out, somebody's somebody's you know, highlighting them. And then this story yesterday, which I guess was around but got put back out yesterday that after Biden's son Bo died of brain cancer, Bow's brother Hunter started an affair with Bow's widow, leaving his own wife a twenty three years,

which is a messy family thing. And be tough as a dad. I mean, that's God, that's roth to deal with that. But it's out in the news again yesterday. Does he want to does he want to have that floating around in his life? I don't think he needs that floating around in his life. And you know, I just don't. I I just don't think he's running. I haven't all year. I think that, Um, he's had a

great run. Why would you want Why would you want to put yourself through a messy campaign where everybody looks at everything you've done and it is sort of creepy the way he touches women. Let's face it. I saw Barbara Boxer in an interview talk about that former senator from California and how yeah he's he's always done that. Nobody felt threatened. I never felt threatened. I know other women who were like, that's kind of but nobody ever felt threatened. But it's probably not gonna work in the

modern era. Longtime female SLAF staffers are coming out of the woodwork and writing editorials and the rest saying he is a great champion of women and women. There was never anything funny. It's just so that's fine. I just I think, you know, we've all had aunts, haven't we, her uncles or grandma's or whatever, who just invaded your personal space too much, pinching your cheek in the rest of it. Yeah, I wonder if he's that, um, you know, just on steroids. But you know, as I'm reminded by

the words of Aristophanes, man is naturally deceitful. Ever in every way Debora j Songs, you read that in the original Greek or Latin or whatever to oh yeah, yeah, I just didn't want to, you know, freak out the audience. You know, it's funny. It occurs to me, Deborah, if you and I were at some sort of bar and we were both a single and set to mingle, I could like run to the bathroom and google a bunch of that stuff you having mentioned you're in ancient Greek.

That sounds like I'm hitting on you a little bit here. Once dated a guy. We could both recite in Greek the first ten lines of the Odyssey. Wow, well that'll bring a couple of people together, the one that got away. That's all it was good for. Oh yeah, yeah, so hey, listen, that was fun talking about healthcare for forty five seconds. But that went away fast, Benny. So I noticed that both, you know, the Fox crowd and the MSNBC crowd moved

on to other stuff. Why why such a lack of enthusiasm for getting down a business in the Beltway, Deborah, You know, I think Joe Biden is liked It's funny. I was watching CNN yesterday and there was a segment on this and and Lucy Flores and Nevada wall Maker who uh first wrote the piece about him kissing her hair and stuff. Um, they didn't show video of him. I mean, you know, they're all these montages of creepy

Joe Biden. And let's say said, there are people who aren't going to like having a total stranger do that to them. Um, so I just think that people don't want to do this to him. But he's sort of done it to himself. And there was a montage that was done when a number of senators were sworn in and he was vice president. Hey, listen, I'm sorry to jump in, but are times super I wasn't joking the whole healthcare thing. Why why why is there so little taste to seriously take it on. Is it just because

it's such a tough nut to crack? Well, we know that the Republicans, after spending X amount of years saying they were going to repeal and replace, we're unable to do it. And then ont of the blue, the Department of Justice under Trump puts in this two sentenced things saying that they're going to back this of federal judge

from Texas decision that Obamacare is unconstitutional. And it just throws over this, It just throws arranging everything because it's the day after the MULA report comes out that this

is submitted. So the timing is weird. It's also um, the day before the New Green Deal vote, which Republicans really wanted to use to embarrass Democrats because they said that on the one hand, they say global warming is something we can't wait on on the other hand, they can't even vote for this thing that they say they support,

and so the timing was crazy and um. And you know, you just don't understand with Donald Trump that he's serious about because the other problem with Republican healthcare bill is there was one that passed the House and Trump had this big celebration in the Rose Garden and he had all those Republicans there to stand with him, and then he turned around and criticized it. Yeah, so it's really hard to understand what he'll stand by. And that's a

real problem and he has in Washington right now. Is so if if if he were to come out with and say this is my plan and this is the way I want to do it, I think then people would take this notion more seriously than having this Department of Justice UH in person into this case when you have no idea what that means. Well, we'll see and we'll talk about healthcare. And by all means. Debra J. Saunders, white House correspondent for the Las Vegas Review Journal, You're

the best, Debra. Thank you, good to talk to you. I'll look that up right back. All Elliott some free, That's what I say. So. I've tried to read Homer's Odyssey in English and gotten like a page in and I and I can't do it, but I doubt that anything was ever said better than what my Homer said. Why do the things that happened to stupid people keep happening to me? That's my life's philosophy, Homer J. Why do the things that happen to stupid people keep happening

to meet? That keeps me in line. And I don't want to brag, but I do watch The Simpsons in the original English

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