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Immigration Window Dressing. John Daniel Davidson talks to Armstrong & Getty

Jun 10, 201911 min
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While the crisis grows, so too does the degree of violence along our southern border. The Federalist's John Daniel Davidson joins Armstrong & Getty to shine a light on aspects of the border crisis that are not being discussed.

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Pump's own DHS came out and said, we read this emergency funding and we need a lot of it to deal with this crisis. This is not politics. This is a humanitarian crisis. Trump's own department said this, um and in twenty if you just look back, I mentioned this before, but that's a similar crisis inteen not as big. Uh. The bomb administration put forward is similar for a million dollars a billion dollar emergency spending proposal UH supplemental to try to deal with their own crisis at the border,

and was not passed. Both parties went into recess. Republicans were blocking that idea in the House. Now you haven't flipped. Republicans are saying, well, the Republican administration is saying we need the money, but that doesn't look like the political will to do anything. Trump's a racist. David David knock

Amer on face the nation. I think it was trying to make the point that a couple of presidents in our own now have tried to deal with a major, major problem, but a variety of reasons that we've talked about for years now, the politics don't allow that to happen. This is no way to run our country. Please welcome John Annual Davidson to the show. John is a senior

correspondent and federalist. Is written a number of things actually about immigration lately, including a piece in recent days as illegal immigration skyrockets the border crisis spins out of control, John, how are you, sir, doing well? Thanks for having me. Oh, it's our pleasure, so listen. Uh, you know, depending on who you ask, you get all sorts of different descriptors,

but I think they're all true. It is a humanitarian crisis, it's a logistical crisis, a legal crisis, financial, constitutional, It's a mess. And it's dangerous too, isn't it. It's extremely dangerous, and as the numbers of illegal immigrants continue to rise, we're going to continue to see more people die at the border, either after they crossed the border or attempting

to cross the rio grand um. You know these reports don't often make headlines or uh, you know, get written up in the news media, partly because it's so frequent. But you know, you imagine the worst things you can think of happening at the border, and they've probably happened in the last month. Well, I know you outline your story infants and handicapped people drowning or dying of dehydration in the desert, and the rest of it. How does that stuff time make more news? Doesn't have to do

with Yeah, I don't know it yet. Part of it is that it's the steady drum beat. It's happening constantly. Uh. You know, I think for a lot of Americans, it's hard to even imagine what the border is. Uh. You know, the news media doesn't have anything like the excuse of regular Americans. You know, they really should spend more time on the border. Um. It's not hard to do. Just book a flight down to El Paso and you know,

right around with the border patrol and you'll see for yourself. Um, but it is sort of hard to imagine what it's like. It's also hard to imagine how dangerous it is on the other side of the border. Raynosa is the city in Mexico right across from the Texas town of McAllen. It's not a big place. McAllen about a hundred fifty thousand people. Rains is a little bit bigger, but it's one of the most dangerous cities in the world. And I don't think a lot of Americans quite grasped that

you've got hundreds of thousands now of Central Americans. And that's one of the big issues is that it's families, it's women and children, sometimes children rented out by the cartels. And this is so fundamentally different from years ago when it was strapping twenty four year old Mexican young men, and that that logistical challenge is just enormous. John Once once folks get apprehended or turn themselves in, Yeah, it's it's fundamentally different than it was even ten years ago,

to say nothing of twenty or thirty years ago. All the facilities that we have built up over the course of the past thirty or forty years along the border were designed to hold single Mexican adults because those were the people that were trying to cross into the country and evade detection. Uh. And they were coming here to work. They were coming to work in all different industries, in all different parts the country. Uh. The facilities that we

have now are wholly inappropriate for families and small children. Uh. And you know, um, sometimes pregnant women sometimes infants uh that that are are crossing, you know, with with the with their mothers. Uh. So it's not as easy as just saying, oh, you know, well, let's get some better facilities down there. It takes a long time to build these facilities. It took us decades to build up the infrastructure we have there, and now we're facing a completely

different problem. Well, we're talking about how it's some of the bad stuff is not getting enough attention, so people don't realize what a crisis is is let's not hide it from our listeners, spell it out and you talk about it in your piece. What are some of the bad things that are happening on the border on a daily basis. Well, one of the things that we talked

about in the pieces that people are dying. Uh. If you follow the news releases and the media statements from the border patrol, uh, you know themselves, you'll see this. It's a pretty routine thing. People are found h dying or dead after they crossed into the United States and remote areas. UM. In some cases, infant children will drowned in the Rio Grand or nearly drowned before border patrol

can rescue them. There was a case last week of smugglers on the Mexican side throwing into the river a double amputee and another band who was a paraplegic, who both of whom almost drowned before border patrol could rescue them. Uh, really bad stuff is going on, and a lot of it is being driven And this is another thing I think people don't realize. A lot of this is being driven by what is essentially a huge black market for

human smuggling. Smuggling networks and drug cartels are making billions of dollars a year off of smuggling Central Americans through Mexico up to and across the US border. They're charging them between two and seven thousand dollars sometimes more per person. And you think about the hundreds of thousands of people that are coming, it adds up. John Daniel Davidson, Senior correspondent at the Federal It's just one more question for

you from me, John. I read in your piece that you have pretty serious doubts as to whether the six thousand Mexican National guardsman sent to the border will do any make any serious difference to the number of Central Americans coming into Mexico. Why the doubt because the Mexican National Guard is an institution that was created very recently, and Mexico has a real problem with their institutions being compromised, uh by corruption by drug cartels. Uh. This is not

a serious thing. This is window dressing on the part of the Mexican government to avoid tariffs, and we shouldn't expect it to make much of a difference. You know, that's obviously true. If there are billions of dollars at stake for the drug cartels or or whoever is making all the money off the smuggling, you're not gonna let some nineteen year old guardsmen in Mexico slow you down. You're either gonna writing number bribe them, right, And that's analysis.

I hadn't heard from anybody but John Well well done, John Daniel Davidson from the Federalist. Give our best wishes to Molly Molly Hemingway, would you if you run into her? Well done? John M's talk again soon. I don't want that to be true. I want this to get solved, right, But obviously, if you've got drug cartels who own the police force of some cities, of course they're going to be able to well, they own the frigging governor, so yeah, of course they're going to be able to infiltrate the

National Guard or whatever they call them there. Yeah, I mean they might have to. They'll call the commander of the guard, the head of the cartel. We'll say, hey, you know, Hector, how are you. I'm good, Jose, how are you? I'm terrific. Listen, I understand you guys are gonna be doing this on the border. What do I need to know? Yeah, well, let me get you the patrol schedule and we'll we'll go from there. All right, thanks best to a wife. I mean, it's literally like that.

Well we learned that from the old Chappo trial. They had transcripts of conversations like that, including the at the time president of the country allegedly um so yeah. I have a feeling that that's too bad. I wonder if I wonder if anybody, if from Mexico, including the president who's the president of Mexican Labrador retriever, if he's said to Trump on the phone, or anybody has said, look, I'd like to remember the man's name. I'm sorry, that's

just how I Dobrador over. I wonder if anybody has said to Trump our our our DHS secretary or anything, he said, look, we'd like to we can't, we can't. We We've got many cities where we have no control over the police force. We can't have we can't have a trial. We we can't. There's no way we can do this. It can't be done. What if they ever say that, I think they probably have ways to hint at it behind the scenes, you're lower, lower level talks. But this, this is exhibit number one of how idiotic

the partisanship has become in the United States. Because, as I've said many times, you can get a panel of randomly selected Americans and they could pass common sense immigration reform in minutes. Explain to them, listen, most people come

become well, listen, here's a great example. You got Gavin freaking Newsom, pretty pretty Gavin Newsom, the mayor of Kelly, Unicornia, who is now pushed and gotten past this law that anybody who sneaks into California gets free healthcare up to the age of twenty five and over the age of sixty or whatever it is. I can't remember, Uh, the old and the young, and sooner it will be everybody.

If you are a Honduran and you've got all the problems of Central America, violence, gangs, corruption, poverty, the rest of it, if you don't do whatever you can to get to California specifically, I mean the United States, and once you get in, if you have a kid with your rented or otherwise, they'll turn you loose because they can't hold you. So once you get in the state, you just then get to California somehow. But if you don't do that, you're a bad person. You're a fool.

I can't imagine why you haven't yet. So you know, until the magnets, and the magnets are getting bigger and bigger, until they're removed or the juice is turned off to them, there's virtually nothing Mexico Mexico can do, and damn near nothing we can do about it. So nobody's nobody's serious. That's what makes me crazy. Even people who agree, they spend their time shouting at each other about Trump and nothing changes, and it's no way to run a country.

It is interesting that you have old people in babies dying on the border and it's not getting more attention than it is because I guess it's not a clear cut this is Trump's fault thing, so it's just oxygen, as they say, very frustrating. Our text line as always is four one five to nine five k f TC four one five two nine five k f TC. Well, it looks like the tariffs are off, So what's your favorite guacamole recipe for one of two nine five k f tc Armstrong and Yettie

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