A&G On Demand Wednesday June 17 Hour 1

Armstrong and Getty communications compound. And hey, everybody today under the two ledge of our general manager, America's peace officer, your local police department. There you go. That just like a tip of the cap sign of respect for a tough job. That's sort of thing. Yeah, just certainly the object of discussions. He says. I was just in the bathroom doing my hair. That's where I was. I do my hair before I come in. You what now a drug code when you have very little hair like I do.

If when you get up in the morning it's all matted down on one side and it looks terrible. Hanson is nodding. How do you recognize this experience from other people that have had that problem? My hairs all matted down. It looks ridiculous. So I have to get my hands wet and rub it through it, rub my head to get it all fluffed. The tiny little hair is all fluffed up again. He was being serious. Yes, I'm being serious.

He got practically no horror, all being completely serious. Dare you to show up one day with matted hair and see if any of us started dudes, so we don't notice anything. Yeah, exactly, I could show up with a pink afro and you notice anyway. So I was in the bathroom doing my hair and y beautiful hair, and I was reminded that i'd heard a story that flushing

the toilet can send coronavirus particles into the air. Yes, questioning whether you should flush the toilet as much, or if you should get some sort of remote control flushing so you can flush it when you're out of the room or something. I heard a doctor saying he breathes more slowly and less deeply when he's in a bathroom in hale and stuff down deep into his lungs. That's pretty interesting, huh. So, but by the way, it fellas like he were more susceptible to the Corona bald guys.

The story came out last week, ten days ago something like that. Doesn't make any difference whether my stubble has been fluffed or not. I hate to admit this as a Harry Harry man with a thick, lustrous head of chestnut hair. But bald fellers have more androgens and some male hormones, which is why I'm so incredibly effeminate. Um and and that you've seen that the death toll among men is much higher than women and the outcomes tend

to be worse. Blah blah blah. They think it has to do with those manly manly hormones, but nobody's quite sure why. One of the many question marks attached to this, and you have more of those if you don't have hair. Yes, I didn't know that. That is one of the indicators. My kids, my my one son particularly has hair like he's Eric clapped in nineteen sixty seven, just the big, full wavy It's crazy. Yeah, I know him all the time. I'd like to have had your hair one day, just

for the options involved. A couple of my kids have hair thicker than the bears. It's amazing. Um. Back to the toilet. So as I read more about where you can and can't can't catch the coronavirus, yet another article in the Wall Street Journal today about that the science is in UM, I know how it's it's so much about breathing in close contact, rarely from surfaces. UM. Very difficult to get outdoors. So it's in a closed room,

close to someone else for a length of time. That's that's what does you But so bat and you know, I feel like I'm relatively safe most of the places I go. But bathrooms I don't know who's been in there. And then you got the coffin sneezing, blowing your nose and flush and toilets, the droplets in the air. Yeah, caldron of disease. Maybe I shouldn't stay out of bathrooms, well in the whole, in a closed room, extended amount of time talking to people. I think the President needs

to outlaw meetings at the office. There you go, probably let's say for the next ten years, Let's see how it goes. Wouldn't that be awesome? If what comes out of this the silver lining is doing away with pointless meetings, or they gotta be two minutes or less, right, because you're gonna do that. You're gonna do that. You're gonna do that. Anybody got a question? Yes? Should I do it this way? Yes? Okay, I have a question. Are

we gonna have the summer picnic? No, you're exposing us all to more possible virus with your stupid question that has nothing to do with what we're here for. Silence, jackass, Silence, jackass. If I'm your CEO, that's the way meetings would go. I'm willing to accept any offers that come my way. And the questions almost always coming from the people that have the least power or influence over the organization. Yeah, that's so common. You just started here last week. Put

your hand out exactly exactly. You work like eleven hours a week. You're just clearly killing time. See, you make more money. The rest of us have to get back to work or nod from you or no offense. But just with your position, you could do a great job or a horrible job and nobody would know the difference. Right, it's just minor impact. So no questions from you don't make me Silence You jackass. Let's introduce everybody in the squad there to kick off the show. There's our board

operator Michael Angelo, President button's flipping toggles, pulling levers. Sorry this morning, Michael, go ahead. Yesterday, during the eight o'clock hour, we had a horrific scene when I almost ended the hour at an improper time, and it was because I couldn't see the clock. And just you know, I so yesterday I finally had to swallow my pride and I had executive producer enlarged the clock on my screen and now I can see it beautifully and it will never

ever happen again. Keep your fund for the older man. Yes, keeping time will never be a problem again. What times your step in tub being wow? Wow? The youth on the staff, that's ages and staff on that's hate speech. Getting yourself a walk in tub and bigger buttons. There you go, that's all right. So I went home, cried, swallowed my pride, and there came back today. Fantastic. You got to adapt. Um. Do you have one of those remote controls at home, the really big numbers that you

can get. No, not yet, but keeping time will never be a problem again. I'll be on it. Excellent. Um, there is positive Sean who smile lights up the room. How are you showing doing very well? But I do have a correction to many minutes. It was thanks Michael was timing. It was it was yesterday's show. We were just cussing one of the many Karen's that was that finds our finds herself in the news cycle these days,

and I got my Karen's confused. I asserted that the Karen, the California Karen we were talking about at one point during the engagement, said something to the effect of go back to where you came from, that was a different Karen. I apologize here, despite the request from my Twitter mentions, I will not be issuing a written apology to all Karen's, but I will say hashtag too many Karen's. Okay, yeah,

we got that story completely wrong. Actually, it's just top to bottom, and I'm to blame because I I brought it up fine moments. The The overall gist of it was the same though, which was my point. The the details of that particular story, I really wasn't that interested in. It's just that overall phenomenon of that sort of thing. As her husband now has been fired. So not only did the Karen have to lose her job for doing something that the society decided was no good for, you know,

an hour on Twitter, but her husband had to go. Right. But what was unclear to me at the time, and apparently I still have no idea, is did he play an active role in it or is he just like THEO, taped it and allowed it to happen. I guess like the l A Galaxy, his his mouthy hot wife made some untoward comments on Twitter or something. The Galaxy let him go because he's got a mouthy hot wife. Really yeah, yeah, I don't think the fact that she was hot went

into the decision. How did that the decision of marrier? True? I am going to in one random day in the next five days, I'm gonna come in with my hair matted down and see if anybody notices I am on a letter time all thought you were joking you have stubble. No, I was doing my hair. That's what I was doing before I walked in the room. Was in the bathroom, Okay, my hair you made? Did they have video camera in there? Perhaps you could go back and then look at the video.

I'm Jack Armstrong, he's Jogetti on this Wednesday, June. We are arm strong and getting we approve of this program. Let's begin fluffing our stubble. According to FCC rules and regulations, the show begins officially at mark. The United States didn't inherit slavery from anybody. We created it. That is Senator Tim Caine, who is willing to say anything, no matter how stupid, inane, or inaccurate, if it scores political points. Well, he was vice presidential candidate too, Yes, yes he was.

He was. Recall, that is unfreaking believable. That's a heck of a thing to say. That's an evil thing to yeah, that's horrid. Does not make things better, And it's it's popular now in MSNBC Scarborough and all of them do it. It's to regularly refer to our four hundred years of systemic racism based on that sixteen nineteen project. The founding of this country was founded on slavery. That's what it's always been about. We've you know, institutionalized racism on purpose

from the beginning and it continues. Man. We we we need to work that out as a narrative and in our nation. Well, and we have folks being dragged into training sessions all over the country now where they are being taught to be woke at their office, at their workplace. It's very much like the uh, you know, the non sexual harassment training we've taken and everybody had to go in a room or some dope man or woman and instructed you

on how not to sexually harass. And of course studies have shown sexual harassment rises after those for some reason. But um, so yeah, those woke classes are now being required at a lot of employers. Really and here's here's the issue. And didn't get any of the what they

teach you in those things to absolutely um. But the problem is, and most of the terrified and or just um uninformed employers and executives don't understand, is these activist groups have redefined all the terms that you think, you know, like racism, You are a racist unless you adopt wholly their political views. That is what you must sign the forms and give away, you know, your entire intellect to

these activist groups. Otherwise you are a racist. So when you make your employees pledged not to be a racist, that's what you're making them pledged to do. More on that James Lindsay is on fire on the Twitter machine on that. That's that's good stuff right there. How's mailbag look? Oh my gosh, epic, It's just it's fabulous. Wow, you laugh, you'll cry. Comments on anything we've said, including do you

fluff your hair? Four one two nine five k f TC is our text line four one five two nine five KFTC are strong the armstrong and Getty showed I've been drinking her syrup since I was a tiny lad. But Aunt Jemima is going away. We'll talk about that coming up. And also a one hundred and thirty six year old Christopher Columbus statue being removed from a park in St. Louis. I want to talk about that phenomenon as it sweeps the nation. Yeah, troubled times. Have you

noticed that crazy man crazy? There's a little hope on the Chinese bat fever, then steroid if you're one of the very few who gets it and the very few who has a severe case of it. Um they've they've cut deaths by like, which is, you know, if you've got it, you're hoping more like but at least there's hope. Mailbag, you can email us mail bag and I'm strong and getty dot com and there to register opinions, send along

something you think we ought to be talked about. Whatever freedom loving quote of the day from Stephen Fry today. We've we've had a couple of Stephen Fry quotes. And I really even know who he is, so I checked around. He's an English writer and actor and director and kind of a renaissance man. He is a liberal, but a kind of an old school liberal. I'm a fan, like is he a contemporary like alive today or from the second? Yeah? Good,

good question. Well he's he's tweeting, so there's there's a hint um he's yeah, he appears to be I don't know, in his sixties. Maybe he was buddies with a Hitchens. Okay, okay, Chris Hitchens Liberal, Yeah, okay, anyway, he wrote the following social media thanks to Chris for sending us along. Not

Chris Hitchens, He's past. This is a different Chris. No. Social media is a stalking ground for the sanctimoniously self righteous who loved his second guest to link to conclusions and be offended, worst, to be offended on behalf of others. They do not even know, it's as nasty and unwholesome characteristic as can be imagined. It doesn't matter whether they think they're defend women, men, transgender people, Muslims, humanists. The ghastliness is absolutely the same. Hard to argue with that

that's good. Is it gonna take a full generation to end up with only people who have grown up with Twitter around for it to to settle down? That's an interesting question. I'm more focused on whether the classical liberal liberal or the woke militant religious liberal will triumph. Life experience tends to get you off of the woke fanatical thing. Although if you can postpone any sort of rational thought, um, then maybe you can hang with it. Thought you might

enjoy this, writes John. This is a joke Jack, A priest, a rabbit, and a minister walk into a bar. The bartender asks the rabbit, don't you have a rabbit? Says I don't know. I'm only here because of auto correct. A priest, a rabbit, and a minister. That's pretty fun. I know that's a good joke. I read that. I cracked up. I said I'm gonna try this on my wife. I readed her. She gets that mystified look, and then cracks up rab well, I'm not gonna explain it to you.

Don't get it. You don't get it. He says, Oh, shot, I'm getting the duck out of here, then walks out of the bar. Yes, well said, let's see. Oh, Matt says, you guys used a word a few weeks ago. I'm racking my brain trying to remember it because I've been googling over half an hour. Google is evil. By the way, Google is completely evil. We'll be talking about that, please. It's when something is named. You would have noticed that.

It's when something is named after the fact, essentially a name, possibly before, but everyone is said, not a word for it after its original conception. I don't even remember discussing the concept. Yeah, that does not ring a bell at all. I wondered if anybody else. You're probably listening to a more erudite radio show perhaps or more podcast or something. Yeah, I don't have any ideas. You know, we do talk about, you know, names of things and sometimes origins of words.

But no, that's that we're I'm we're as mystified as you are, Sir Rich Rights. Hey fellas, yesterday you talked about a perfect storm for riots after the election. I live in Portland, where people rioted four years ago before Trumpet even started the job. Now, after four years of the world being indoctrinated about how horribly is there will for sure be riots no matter what my perfect storm was.

They believe a lot of the George Floyd protests and protests around the world that have been uh pretty you know, heated. They're trying to figure out why exactly are these protests so hot right now, and they think it's because we've all been locked The combination of being locked up, worried about your job, worried about your health, it's made everybody like anxious and angry and crazy, and that's going to

continue through the summer up to election time. You combine that with a close election and some severe problems with elections if the COVID's going on and uh distancing and machines not working in ballidly you know, mail in ballots and all this sort of stuff. See the problems they had in Georgia a week or so ago. You got a recipe for some severe rioting and a real belief that this election actually wasn't legit. No, that would be terrible, and half the country in a close election, no matter

which direction it goes, believes that's not my president. I think that's likely where we end up. See Armstrong and Getty show a quart to the reason bull fewer Americans have a negative a vice president Joe Biden then they did of Hillary Clinton said Clinton, stop asking people leave me audio poles. That's pretty funny. Oh boys. So here's a couple of stories that I don't know what I

think of. I realized as a talk show host, I'm supposed to have a very solid opinion yes and that's the one and defend it strong, and people who disagree with me are evil. But I don't know what I think about either one of these stories. I'll start with PepsiCo owns Aunt Jemima Syrup. Didn't know that they own practically everything you eat a drink. PepsiCo doesn't anyway, They've decided to drop the whole Aunt Jemima label thing. Now Aunt Jemima there's a black woman on the bottle of syrup.

That's all I really know about it, and that's the that's the extent that I've thought about it my whole life. This gets to well exactly This gets to the I don't know what to think about this thing. I'm I don't want to get too far down the road of systemic racism and racism you don't see in white privilege, because we'll be off on that subject. But I feel like Aunt Jemima being on the bottle of syrup, which I've used since I as long as I can remember, had no impact on me whatsoever in terms of my

my thoughts about Black America. I really honestly believe that I believe it had zero impact on me. It's also gonna have zero impact at being gone, So you know, I'm not like angry that it's going away. Is separate to the statutes I'm about to talk about. I don't think there. I don't think I don't think there's any possible damage that could be done by removing Aunt Jemima

from the syrup. So you're saying that if you went into an accounting firm, say with help for for help with your taxes, and in a black woman or to meet with you, you wouldn't think this accountant is just like Aunt Jema. Believe I've got any lingering anything about Aunt Jemima being on the Sir the sir let alone something deeply negative. I just don't believe it. Now. Yeah, well, I've heard some stuff about an Jemima that is not so savory. I heard it from Mrs Butterworth, who is

my syrup. I also feel like if you introduced aunt Jemima today, but you and you go back with the old, uh slave woman look that they had up until a couple of years ago. Remember they changed the look of Angela. It was kind of an old timey mammy, early twentieth century. Yeah, but I think I think if you introduced it today and presented the story as this is trying to show

that black women who worked for white families contributed. Also, here's someone who's recipe for syrup was so loved it was stolen and appropriated and used all over Southern America, became a national brand. Right if you spun it like that, you could make a hero. It's a positive thing to spin syrup. Well, no, I'm yeah, Ultimately, I say, well, my whole point is, I don't think it has any impact on anybody at all. I don't believe it is a symbol of racism or rain. I don't think it's anything.

I don't think it has any impact any more than the than the what was the ivory soap baby contributed to attitudes toward infants? I don't know. I just these brand names are lucky Charms is contributed to racism against my people, the Irish anyway, um, so like, but I'm not certain about that. But I just feel like it did not cause me to have any negative feelings about Black America in any way, having drank drank bottles of and Jemima's ear throughout my life on the statue things.

So they just took down a one hundred and thirty six year old of Christopher Columbus statue in a park in St. Louis. It's been there a very long time. Um. It was originally put up to honor contributions of immigrants in America, which is something we're supposed to be doing, not white ones. Um. I guess Portuguese is stupid Portuguese. My only problem with this I think, well, for if anybody's ever listened on Columbus Day, you know it's right.

It's the whole Columbus thing. I don't care about at all. It doesn't I think it's a completely different sort of thing than the Confederate thing, and certainly a different sort of thing than taken down Thomas Jefferson. But but just in general, the thing that bothers me the most is it's being decided by mobs. That's not the way we should decide these things. Mobs shouldn't decide what's up in

the park. I would like there to be a movement toward you hate the statue, you think it's gonna come down. Let's let's let's get petitions signed, Let's go to city council meetings, let's get it on the ballot for the next election and get it removed. And you might easily have enough support in your community to have the statue taken down. That way of doing it fine, But mobs deciding what acts or statues get to be is definitely no way to run a country. And that's the way

it's going right now. The mobs didn't bring the statue down, but they had defaced it and spray painted it so many times. The park finally said, we just can't afford to provide enough security to keep this from being to face. It's like the Heckler's veto Yeah, they're afraid at this point as it is, old enough and carved by some famous carver of statues that it is an artifact and actual work of art. They decided we got to move it into a museum to protect it. But the mob

should not decide I stay something what comes down. Well, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I almost hate saying it out loud. Not that like the Antifa maniacs are listening to this show or anything, but they so discredit themselves when they do things as an angry mob, as opposed to pursuing the levers of our republic like you described, good solid activism. That would then, and this is the part I really don't want to hear them here, they

would learn how the process works. They would be better organized, They would know who to petition and in what way. It would probably be more effective than launching their ridiculous, woke schemes on the rest of us. I almost prefer them acting like angry idiots. Well, that was the argument Barack Obama was making a couple of weeks ago about getting organized at your your local level, going to city

council meetings, voting, that sort of thing. There's easily enough power in a lot of communities to get these statues taken down in a democratic fashion as opposed to in the middle of the night with ropes and you know bats. That's no way to make decisions. I find that very, very troubling. I do like this, uh, this movement that's going right now. Is this just in Tennessee or is this all across the nation sewn? I think it's just in Tennessee, but I'm trying to get it going all across.

In Tennessee, there is a movement going to replace all statues with Dolly Parton statues. American Treasure simply reads wrote Joe, Lene and I will always of you in the same day. What have you done? Right? Right? Wow? There you go, or some sort of movement of people throwing up Columbus statues all over the country. You know, you show up to Main Street, they're like three Columbus statues. That would

be funny. I mean, I'm sure you can get some sort of cheap plaster cast or something like that and crank out like a hundred fifty of them for a thousand bucks. I'd kick into that. Not because I have any particular interest or pride in Columbus. I really the whole glorifying Columbus thing is pretty silly, absolutely, um, but I just I love the trollery of it. Making in him an evil spreader of genocide is also silly. Ryan, He's just a product of his time, like you're the

product of your time. The biggest Columbus statue, obviously, is the one Columbus circle there right at the corner of Central Park in Manhattan. That's that's what. That one's a big deal, and that's when you'll know the mob is really taken over. Yeah, any way, was that compared to the Robert E. Lee statue that was like sixty feet high? I meant big in terms of importance on a height. Yeah, I haven't been there in ages anyway? Where were we?

I s So you will likely, if you are part of corporate America, you will likely be dragged into a wokeness anti racist slash diversity training session. And the fabulous, the brilliant James Lindsay. He's a lefty professor, but he hates the the woke cancel culture. He has a great series of well he has some suggestions for how to approach it if indeed you are forced to attend one of these. Anybody have any thoughts in the whole and Jemima thing, is that actually harming in America? I mean,

it wasn't helping in America either. My care My reaction to this conversation is that it's making me hungry for pancakes. That does sound good, doesn't Yeah, and a couple of sausage links on the side or bacon whatever you got, have you had? Do you do you ever drink the light syrup? Drink it? Stop saying that I just have a couple on ice and I have pancakes once every four years. At this point in my life, was that

just once a week I play the pancakes. I gained two pounds, no kidding, or at least once a week on pancakes. But I'm flipping love pancakes. No punny. Like a lot of diet stuff, it just tastes like it's so much worse for you. I mean, you look at the label and there's less calories, but the chemicals involved in diet soda light syrup, that sort of sting is your body is screaming, this is gonna give you cancer.

Allegedly back when I was a pancake eater, which sounds like some sort of slur um I got onto a real maple syrup. Oh yeah, that's when my one son will only drink that, and it stops saying drink Nobody drinks syrup. Nobody says that. You've been saying it for so long anyway, But there's there are horrific amounts of sugar in it. But that's probably well, it's it's not good for you, but it's probably better. Got to wap

it up whatever chemicals. You know, it's got to be some corporation is squirting out of their factory and pokeps in maple syrup. You only need just a little bit, a little bit, just drowned it. Yeah, then you drank it. Eat on the rock. Text line is four got these pancakes from restaurant called pancakes egg cetera. It's kind of a plant words. Oh god, hard to imagine he didn't get elected text line four one five k FTZ are

Strong and the Armstrong and Getty Show. Text line Soon we'll have to name more Columbus, change the name or Columbus land in Columbus, Ohio. Absolutely right, and landed in Columbus, Ohio, declared it his everybody knows that m if evil. Take two if power corrupts, and there's nothing more powerful than big tech right now, beware big tech. They're evil. More on that to come. And when they're not evil, they're stupid because they're so big and and and powerful. Being

stupid is not good. You're talking about your facebooks, your Google's, That's who I'm talking about, your your Twitter's, Twitter's. Do you know who James Lindsay is. He's a professor Portland State, right. He's a lefty, a nice fellow, but he's a classic free thought, uh debate discussion lefty. And he's troubled as we are, by the the angry, bloodthirsty woke mob. And he tweets a lot, and he's a crazy smart guy about the phenomenon of anti racism and critical race theory

and wokeness and and all of it. I think he might be going crazy. He claims he's not, And I think he's going crazy. Do you I think this is driving him? You think the stress is getting to him? Well, I just hope he keeps cranking out his smartness while while his sanity last. Someone he tweets, actually like thirty people in the last hour or two told me they have to sit through an anti racist slash diversity training for work tomorrow and ask for advice. Here's something you

can really do that works. Ask calibrated questions. Ask questions about definitions. So when you say racist and anti racist you don't mean like the normal definition. Sound confused? This is important. You're there to learn, after all. Don't fight back. Just be a really slow learner and ask questions to expose. Ask questions about implications, like so, if I become an anti racist, am I still a racist? How do I stop being racist? How does this pro graham make me

not racist again? You're there to learn, so sound like it's slower. First, First of all, I wonder how prevalent this is. Is this the new going to be the new? Like sexual harassment training? Yes, that everybody's taking a work well, as he said, he's had dozens of people in the last couple hours. Hey, I got dragged. I gotta go to one of those two. I wonder if we'll be doing that. And secondly, um see, am I a person

who wants to make America better place? Am I afraid of an ideology taking over that's going to destroy the nation? And I want to, you know, stand athwart to Yale stop or um, do I just want to keep my job, in which case I would keep my mouth shutting that training, sign the piece of paper, and go back to my cubicle so that the boss doesn't say that person is asking all the questions. We need to get rid of them. Yeah. Well, I would suggest that if you feel the need to respond,

this is a great way to do it. On the other hand, rolling your eyes that your your compatriots there in the office and just waiting till it's over is another strap. Although I've clicked you know, yes, I've taken the sexual harassment training and a variety of other things many times over my life. I'd want to read the fine print on this one. Yes, yes, I will tell you this. Most of this training, well, let me put

it to you like this. Ten percent of it is to address the problem it says it's there to address. The other nine is so that your company slash corporation can say, when the lawyers come after him, whoa, whoa, whoa, we trained our people. In fact, Joe signed a piece of paper saying he'd taken the training, so we did our part. Don't sue us, sue him. That's why most

of this exists. On the other hand, this uh list of questions is less about the specifics of being in a training session and more about just the principles of all so anyway, try to get them to say, you can't stop being a racist and the contradictions. Wait, so if color blindness means not seeing race and that makes me racist, seeing race make me racist? Is race supposed to matter or not matter? I'm confused? Slow learner mode, activate, make them explain it and make it look hard to learn.

It's about if. If it's about implicit bias, learn to gain the test. It's actually very easy. Then report this. Sometimes you take it. They're talking about the tests you have to take that show your implicitly biased. Sometimes you take it and it gives you a strong pro black bias, other times strong pro white. What gives This part is kind of confusing, but moving along, ask them really obvious questions like doesn't making us focus on race make the

issue more sensitive? And doesn't a reporting system make it harder to work with people we don't trust, Make them explain the practical failures away and look silly. This isn't just a fun strategy that can work, especially on the people around you. It's actually court of the literature. You can even mention it to show what a good interested student you are. Um. For instance, Barbara Applebaum says in

Being White, Being Good, it's a book. Apparently it is a book, apparently because it was that ebooks are Kindle, it was Kindle Amazon. So when I was on my Amazon Kindle app yesterday, it's got recommended books, and they're all these woke racist you're you're racist books that are so popular, and that's everything they're recommending to me. That's the only thing I should be reading completely from one, I think, very narrow point of view. That's what's being

recommended for readers now by Amazon. This, this whole thing is troubling. Yeah. Yeah, But in her book, she says the only legitimate way to disagree is by asking challenging questions to understand to eventually agree. So do that, take that vibe and approach, be a slow learner and points subversively at the problems. Again. You know, if you want to stick your neck out at your your workplace, that's

how you ought to do it. I get it. Um Oh, I like this, by the way, he says, if you can pull it off recorded try to get them on audio saying reprehensible stuff. You don't have to force this, it comes out naturally, or get caught up and confused and contradictions or nonsense. Don't get fired. Play along and subvert. Wait, so are we talking about real racism or systemic racism? Okay, if systemic racism is real racism, what do we call

real racism? So we don't get them confused. So we can all be racist because of systemic racism even if there's no real racism. That's some good subverting. Oh boy. Then he gets into the whole white fragility thing, which is one of the great rhetorical traps of my lifetime, where if you say I'm a racist, well then you you get beaten down by the mob. And if you say I'm not a racist, then you're guilty of white fragility, which proves you're a racist and you get beaten down

by the mob. It's very much like denying your a witch back in the day. In fact, it's the same rhetorical trap. Yeah. Well, I've recommended many times, you know, just Tay can any of James Lyndsay's YouTube videos or podcast he he talks about the same thing over and over and over again. But it's it's really interesting stuff. And the point of this whole game is a setting up rules. You can't win, right exactly, You're always on

the defensive. Well, it's funny. That's a variation of what I and Randy used to talk about, which is, you know, we have so many rules, we will find you guilty of them, and then you are under our power. You're a lawbreaker and we will break you. Um and and they're pursuing the same the same techniques. Hey, on the topic of taking down various statues and things like that in California Sutter from Sutter's Fort and maybe learned about it and down. How about Eli Yale? He was a

slave trader? Somebody texted, is that true? Eli Yale was a slave trader? I have to do a little digging on that. Oh what was it? What was the other one I heard the other day? That would be a complicated one. Oh, James Penny. I'm pretty sure it was James Penny, for whom Penny Lane the Beatles song. Uh, well, the song was named after the street. The street was named after the dude. He was involved in the slave

trade too, or something similar. So uh. There are some who want the Beatles to change the name of Penny Lane Lane to Dane Dede. You just have to bleep it out, Fenny Lane, Kenny Lane. There you'd go, Kenny right, attribute to Kenny Rogers right. Armstrong and Jetty