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ROH: Death Before Dishonor 2022 - Preview/Predictions

Dec 11, 202235 minEp. 76
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You are now entering. Hello, and welcome to another episode of Armbar Audio. I'm your host, Tim Farley, and across the screen from me is my trusted committee, John Churns. What's up, everybody? Today we are here to do discuss Ring of Honors Pay-per-View. Tonight's death before Dish. and give our predictions. Yes. John has the card, so he will be bringing those up. I do have for us to discuss, to have the card. They won't be, he's got all the Pokemon cards too. I don't have Pokemon cards.

Do you want his address to steal 'em? I damn it. I don't have any Pokemon on cards. I have. I have some my hero academia cards. I have, I believe that are mine. I have mine too. . I have, um, I do have, I believe, one Pokemon card. It's a squirrel card that I got from a McDonald's Happy Meal. So shocks. Shocks is right. So we're go, as we talk about the matches, we will talk about the build to them. We're not gonna talk about the build to this pay-per-view beforehand.

We're just gonna jump right into, yep, we're jumping right the fuck in. With some pre-show matches. We have Alison K versus Willow Nightingale, Cole Cabana versus Anthony Henry, and then Shinobi Shadow Squad, which is Eli. Eli Isam, how do you say that? Eli Isam and Cheeseburger Burger versus the Trustbusters. Devar and Slim J Oh and another pre show Match. Uht Bunch of Enterprises, Brian Cage and the gates of agony, which are con and to Leona own a versus three of our favorites.

Alexander Blake, Christian and Tony Depen. So the pre-show looks pretty fucking. Uh, is there, is there anything you wanna discuss with the pre ship? Yeah, I would like to discuss all of, let's go for it. Alison. K will you Very, very, very happy to see AK 47 on this. Uh, I hope that coming out of this pay-per-view, the idea of r o h becoming a show or maybe a monthly. Extravaganza or something will happen because I am a big fan of AK 47. I'm also a very big fan of Willow Nightingale.

Um, so I'd like to see them more often. Um, we do get to see Willow in, uh, in supportive rules and jobber rules in a w. Uh, she is the babe with the power and, uh, she's gotten some more experience under her wing by going to Tokyo, Josie Pro with Thunder Rosa this past month. Um, just for the sake of that, we've seen her on a w Moore. I would say Willow's gonna win this, but, uh, it's not gonna be a squash. No, it, it's gonna be a damn good.

Uh, women's Division Contest, women of Honor, as it were, uh, AK 47. Alison K is one of the best in the world, uh, as is will and night go, but like you said, will and Night Go has been getting the dynamite spots. So I do expect her to come away with the victory, but swerving us with Alison K winning would not be a negative in my opinion. . Um, I, I agree her to appear more often. Uh, col.

Yeah. It could build, it could build a number one contender type of feud for the women's title Col Cab and Anthony Henry. You can't have Ring Honor without col Caba. That's true. Anthony Henry, uh, is a fantastic wrestler. Uh, I watched. and most recently in, uh, Southeast or the, the big Southern promotion now that AC Mac made beyond the, uh, I, I mean the uncharted territory. I, I forget the name, but, well, uncharted territory is beyond, but I, I. Is it Honor Moore? No, no. AC Mack. AC Mack.

When he won the, after he won the title, he put the title on the line against someone and said if he retains the title beyond, uh, uncharted territory goes to the South. Oh, shit. Because he's trying, he's trying to blow up Southern wrestling. Yeah. Um, so, so it's been going on there. I, I want to say the promotion's called Southeast, but I, I don't, I don't. I didn't, uh, but I watched him wrestle Daniel Mabe. I've been watching him wrestle for years and he is such a good worker.

That's why he's in the tag team with JD Drake called the Warhorse. Oh yeah. But, uh, I've seen him in Bat Black Label Pro all over the place. He's even been on a e w Um, it's hard to go against Colt Cabana because he's an a w contracted wrestler, and he's a Ring of Honor mainstay. . Yep. But it all depends on what Tony's plan for. Ring of Honor is just like we talked about with Willow and Allison. K I would really love to see Anthony Henry get the win here.

Yeah. Um, I'm gonna also say Anthony Henry, but if he gets hit with that Superman pin, ain't no escaping from that. Shabi Shadow Squad Cheeseburger and Eli, Eli Isam versus the Trust Busters. Ari Dari and Slim J. Now, uh, I read somewhere that the Ari Dari, I don't know if it's hap if it happened like on New Japan Strong or whatever, but like, apparently, you know, the, the, his, they're called the Trustbusters because. inherited his family's money.

Um, I don't, I don't like to go against Eli Isam. I think Eli Isam before Ring of Honor folded Eli Isam was a shining star of ring, like up and coming, shining star of Ring of Honor along with Dak Draper and. I'm, I have to go with the Shinobi Shadow score. Yeah. I'm gonna agree with you. Um, I can't go against you Eli Iso or Cheeseburger, to be perfectly honest with you. I just, I love everything about that guy.

Yeah. I, I like how whenever he was on the independence after Ring of Honor Forward, he wasn't by world famous cb. Yeah. World famous cb. Yeah. Take them a little bit more serious, you know? And then our last pre-show contest. Tulley Blanchard, Tulley Blanchard Enterprises, uh, the gates of agony and the machine. Brian Cage against a trio of John's favorite j c w wrestlers, Alexander Blake Christian and Tony der . Well, I'm gonna start by saying Tony Depen has been making a lot of moves for him.

Uh, of Honor Unfolded. He was, he was in the Ring of Honor, he was television champion. He was, uh, I want to say he was the, the TRIOS champions, but I'm not sure. Um, he recently went over to the UK and was wrestling for RevPro and over the top in Ireland. So, um, right. And Ring of Honor has had all three of those men on their. But Brian Cage and Totally Blanchard have, have been with a w for a long time.

Um, Khan and Leno, Leon, Leona, yeah, have been shown on the sh on the shows, whether it was Dark, dark Elevation, rampage Dynamite. Um, there if you want to establish Tulley Blanchard Enterprise, , you have them go over here, but it's going to be a fun spot fest type of match, especially when you have Blake Christian, um, Alex Zane and Brian Cage, right? Um, I have grown to really, really enjoy trio's matches over the past year.

, um, with everything a W's doing with them, uh, watching them in New Japan. And we actually, yeah, we actually have the Ring of Honor trio's titles being defended on this show. We'll get into that later. But I love the focus on trios that is being presented right now, and Tony Depen shared the tweet about, Himself. Blake and Alexander were supposed to be a trio, uh, I believe before the, the hiatus came. Um, but it fell through.

So he is very happy and excited and I am too, to get this opportunity, to get this trios going. But like you said, yeah, all the, all these guys are getting good opportunities. Yeah, man. Like if you look at the past, Of Blake and Alex and Tony, uh, and considering where Alex and Blake went for a little bit, just everything that these guys are doing. Zane finally got to be in the best of super juniors and Japan loved them.

Blake is, is putting himself in the upper echelons of G C W and Warrior Wrestling, and he's been on impact, like these guys are on the bubble, you know. It just sucks that they're, they're gonna be against Poly Blanchard Enterprises Yes. Because you really, they need, they need this victory more than anybody, like, for sure. Well, it, it, it's good that they're getting the exposure. Yeah. You know, but yeah. Gotta go with Poly Blanchard on this one. Always been on blanch. Totally. B blanch.

You're at the hper view. Hey, roast me, Rick, the media roasted you enough? Oh my God, that's last year. I got better things always to do with , with the hands. Always. I never thought about it until you just did that. Yeah. So. . Yeah. Pre-show looks pretty fucking good, honestly. And the pre-show is kind of min a lot of the time on every show, but holy god damn, usually this is a damn good. Like this whole thing is like a man car, right? Let's get into the man car. I was just gonna save that.

Let's first talk about the Battle of the Brothers that was just added, uh, within the past couple days. Versus Dragon Lee. Very excited to see Dragon Lee back in the United States. Uh, he and his brother Jako have been in Mexico for aaa. Uh, I really hope this means that we get to see more of Dragon Lee in the cross, the crossing of Ring of Honor in a w, especially since Ingo Noles are back together in an capacity.

I think Dragon Lee will be able to show his stuff in this match, but Roche will come out with the victory. Yeah. Roche is definitely going to win. Um, I think he has to because like they're trying to get Lewis and Gar Oways going Well, well, fio Andwe and. We can see the f we're probably gonna get, see the fist thrown up at the end of this match. Maybe even at the beginning. I, I'd be very happy. I would be very happy. So, yeah. Gonna go with Rosh on this one.

I wonder if their father will be in attendance. Uh, beast. Yeah. Maybe. And I think definitely we're gonna see on draw day in Ru's corner or in a backstage cap. , um, what's So yeah, Rouge on that one. We're both in agreement. Uh, we talked about it a little bit before. Let's get into it. The Trio's title is being defended by the Righteous Vincent Bateman and Dutch, um, with Vita V, and they are facing Dalton Castle and the Boys, the Tates. what do you think?

I think that Dalton Castle and the boys shouldn't be in this position. I think that Dalton Castle should be on his own and in a better match. This match gives the feeling to me of an R o h reunion type show. Right. And not a r o h rebi removing head. Right, exactly. Um, I think, um, you know, we've seen Bateman in New Japan strong as the leader of the Stray Dog Army. Dutch has been doing his thing. Vincent has been in honor no more for the past few months in, uh, impact.

And I think this going away from the negative things that I talked about, this is a very good match with people with very strong and established gimmicks. There's gonna be a lot of high jinks shenanigans and fun. Um, yeah, it all, the winner all depends on, like I said earlier in the pre-show matches where Tony wants to take this. But I feel like you keep the titles on the righteous. Yeah, for sure. Vincent is just, you know, like when I first saw Vincent in. Role as he is now.

I thought, oh, he is just a bra Wyatt impersonator. But he is become so much more, he's like, he's like a cult leader in the desert and like peyote type dude. Yeah. Like I, I, I don't know. It, it, and like Bateman has the look and Dutch has the look as his followers. It's a strong, it's a strong gimmick. And like I said, Dalton cast. is, uh, what I would like to see for Dalton Castle, honestly, is they run into tag team titles with one RJ city.

Ooh. Um, I, I don't know if you saw that Family Feud that they were on with David Arquette. I, I remember, I, I, I remember seeing RJ sitting and David Arquette on family food. I didn't watch the whole thing. I know I didn't, but I definitely saw the place. Right, right. I only saw clip. . Uh, but you take Dalton Castle and his ability on the mic and his wrestling acumen and you mix it with RJ City's charisma, that, that there could explode an entire promotion.

And, um, I don't know if RJ City wants to be a wrestler anymore, but if he does, that is he's kind of busy right now with take case. So what I. I would suggest after the match, after the righteous win, the Tate Brothers turn on Dalton. Interesting. Yeah. And didn't that, didn't that kind of, um, get teased a little bit ago? The boys turning on Dalton? Well, when Ron Ring of Honor was still alive. Dalton kind of stopped relying on them so much, and then he would bring them out as he needed.

And he was kind of like in a, uh, he was in a character crisis. Yeah. Uh, not, not, not because of ca like in Kfa. Yeah. You know, he didn't know what to do with himself. So, uh, yeah. I say you pulled the trigger on that. So trio's titles, staying on the Righteous, the Boys Turning On Dalton Castle. Dalton Castle. Moving into a better position and being, you gotta let the peacock fly. He's a peacock. You gotta let him fly. Let me see your peacock.

Cut. Cut. Oh, see you were doing a different thing. I was doing it from. No, no, that's a, that's like an old Katy Perry song. No, it's uh, absolutely awful. Is it Katy Perry? I thought it was Kesha. Yeah, it is. Oh, absolutely not. I never owned a Kesha album. Oh. Oh, you know what that was Katy Perry. Uh, that was a dark time. It's dark time. I, Hey man, Katie Perry was catching was hell, and I. I bought that, that album, that the song sucks. Oh yeah, yeah. Atrocious.

Moving into some more championship. Action. Let's talk about sin. Sin, sin against Music. Music. And there's, there have been many. Let's get back on track. Huh? I mean, full, full disclosure, my mother walked in, threw her debit card at me and said, order us Papa John's. And I was like, I can't do that right now. I can't do that. Don't you see? I have headphones on the day of reckoning the green screens up for Christ The Day, day of Reckoning, the same in every day.

Day of Reckoning has not yet come. We're not quite at 40 and 30 days yet. Yeah. Yeah. Every match now that we're gonna talk about is a championship match, which is cool. Let's talk about Mercedes Martinez defending against the professor Serena D. Oh yeah. Serena D laid the trap and she got what she wanted. A W Tony Conn. Have a lot of faith in Serena de and that's, that's a good thing. Um, Mercedes, Martinez and Serena de can be compared to each other really, really thoroughly.

Um, I think because of the feud with Sheda, because of the professor challenges the five minute challenges. Of the development over the past year or so of Serena de de will come out with, uh, her first big singles, uh, title. I agree. I think Serena Dee is winning this one. Uh, she's washed every FD so far and it's time for her to come out. , did she really lose the sheet?

Well, she didn't really lose the sheet of you, but like she hasn't held a title yet, is what I'm, is more what I'm getting at, right? Um right. Yeah. It's time for her to do that. And not that I don't love Mercedes Martinez, cuz I do, but like eight. And I don't blame any issues that I have on the talent at all with this yet. It's just that Ring of honor hasn't. , they still seem to not really know what they want to do with it, right? There's no, there's no two us. There's nothing to base on.

Just random, random, just two random wrestling fans. We don't know the future of what r o h is. Yeah, so nothing that we're talking about, it's still going to be our talent if, if it's still going to be Ring of Honor wrestlers showing up on a w. Showing off their titles, putting on title matches, right. Or starting storylines on a w for an r o h feud. You put that title on Serena. Yeah, right. Precisely.

Serena dude, uh, moving into pure title territory Wheeler You to Defending Against Daniel Garcia, this is one that could go either way. Um, with what we've been talking about with the a w influence, both of these guys are. Heavily featured on Dynamite Rampage, even on dark. So how do you see this one going? Shit for a while Daniel Garcia was Daniel Rampage Garcia. He was the main event. It was him on Rampage for long.

It was him and Hook for a long time, and they r and for the past, uh, three or four months, they've really built up you. Yeah. Um, And I, you know, I've talked about this on our last show, their, their I W T V 100 match that went to a 60 minute job was absolutely amazing. And I'm sure that a lot of wrestling fans were confused by Daniel Garcia being in the Jericho Appreciation Society and not the Blackpool Combat Club. Yeah. Uh, and we've talked at length about.

and how we feel like that it's good that he's in Jericho Appreciation society because, uh, we all know that he can wrestle, you know, um, this is my most, this is the match I'm looking most forward to on this card. Um, this is the future of Ring. Yeah, absolutely. That's a perfect way to put it. I'm gonna let the people know real quick. Uh, just a fair warning, it just started thunderstorming. If this ends suddenly, that's why I can't call it. That's, yeah, that's, that is a, and that's.

That's something that doesn't happen often with prediction shows, but it does happen sometimes. I mean, UDA UDA was in that badass tag team match, and he got the brunt of the beating from the best friends. And, you know, he, he just came back from Japan from the best of super juniors. Garcia on the other hand, you know, he's, he's relatively fresh, uh, you know, bodily and.

Uh, you'd have brought up the whole, the whole thing about him being in the hospital and almost losing his life or whatever. Yeah. I mean, Garcia Garcia is a hound dog, man. You don't want it now, now that it's pure rules though. You to bring that up is smart because Garcia's gonna wanna punch you. Yeah. Garcia's gonna wanna not listen to the re so it comes down to. . It comes down to those pure rules. Oh, it al it almost happened. It almost happened. It almost almost happened here.

It almost happened. again. Uhoh. Oh no, I think it did happen. Oh, I've lost Timothy. He's gone. Oh, no. So Will or Yuda, uh, Daniel Garcia. Um, they're both great. I can't really call this one. Daniel Garcia's gonna want to act like a, uh, sports and retainer, and he is not gonna be able. Uh, let's see here. Samo Joe defends the TV title against Jay Lethal with Sanjay Du and Santo Singh.

Uh, for that reason, I do believe that Jay Lethal might just come away with a victory here, um, unless the referee has to throw out Santo Sing and Sanjay. because like one-on-one Samoa Joe clears Jay lethal. But with that, with that big ass, something sing at ringside, things could go us south for Samoa. Joe, uh, do Jonathan Gresham defends the Ring of Honor World title again, it's Claudia Castin. Uh, this is gonna be sort of another coming out party for Claudia.

Um, he debuted at, shit, I don't remember the name of that show. It was the last Paperview Dub War, nothing. Was it Dub War? Nothing. Is that where debuted, I think it was. But then he came into the Blood and Guts match and looked like. Goddamn machine cuz he has a goddamn machine that's Swiss Superman. But, uh, does Gresh lose here? Interesting. Does Gre , uh, does Gresh lose? I don't think so. Not this time, but if Claudia does come away with the victory and win that.

Then I think Claudia's Feud for that title should be with Lee Moriarty. I think that makes the most sense. Um, so I am predicting a cla win and I'm hoping for Claudia win, even though I absolutely love Jonathan gre. I mean, I got my little man right here. This is it. It's an octopus. Tim bought me this before he, uh, before his house blew away in, in a thunderstorm, which will shortly happen to me. Um, , uh, finishing it off with FTR versus the Briscoes two take.

FTR in Briscoe's one is my favorite tag team wrestling match that I've seen, uh, in recent memory maybe ever. They have this match, has big shoes to fill to live up to the first one. I think they're gonna have no issue doing so. Uh, FTR is defending the Ring of Honor world titles or world tag team titles against the Bris. The Briscoe's just recently signed a long-term deal, and there, here's the power. It's back on. The power is on, but not like all the way on.

Uh, it is dark right now, but you know, I think I'm still alive. Uh, Tim is not here with. , but I think we're okay. I'm gonna try to turn up my brightness and see. No, that just made it worse. Uh, you can kind of still see me . This dream is going off the rails, but I think we're still doing fine. I think the, uh, that fuse blew the fuse blew, uh, the fuse. Yeah. I'm gonna go check it. Yeah, go check that out. Because like, we have power, but I have no lights, and no ac.

So. There's lights in the basement. She says, uh, this is a weird stream, but you know what, what does arm audio do? We persevere, we push forward and we predict that FTR keeps the titles because they are starting their boat collecting journey and it's going to be long, a long, long rain. Um, let's see if I can do something here. Now, the Briscoe's did just sign a long-term ring of owner. So, oh no, we got it. We, oh, and look at that. Uh, let's turn this back down now. Hey, there I am.

That looks so weird. Why does the background look lighter? It doesn't matter who chairs. Um, so. I hope you enjoy. I, I, I hope you enjoyed this. Um, I hope this was good. It's, uh, 37 minutes of semi coherent rambling about Ring of Honor, but you know, when you make plans and they follow through and. , then they come back. The fuse was warm to the touch. The fuse was warm to the touch. Yeah. That doesn't sound like a thing that is safe. Whatever. Zapped through must have zapped everything.

Was our house potentially struck by lightning? I don't think so. I think we would know. Would've heard that if that happened. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, well, there you have. Uh, I'm gonna get to work building my arc, and we will see you on the next video. Take it easy. Enjoy Ring of Honor Death before Dison tonight. Um, it's gonna be a damn good show, top to bottom. Like all, all stream. Chaos aside, this, this card is fucking phenomenal and it's worth the price of a. So check it out.

Watch Ring of Vonner. If you don't watch Ring of Honor, they won't be able to do it anymore. And like, we all want it so bad. We, we, we gotta hold up our end of the bargain and make it happen, you know? So yeah, that's gonna do it for myself. Uh, Johns and, uh, Tim Foley. You wanna say something? I guess.

So thank you for joining us, and we will see you on the next episode of ABR Audio, wherever you are in the world, whether it's morning, noon, or night, you have a great one and peace and love to all of you. Bang. Yeah, ho.

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