Welcome to Are You Quizzing Me. I am Vineet Nair with my Co host Aditya Kashyap. This is a quizzing trivia podcast show. Join us as we dive deep into history, science, pop culture and so much more. Let's get quizzing and we're back for episode #105 of Are You Quizzing Me? Your favorite quizzing and trivia podcast show. Aditya and I are back for another round of quizzing, and let's start off today's episode very quickly with an audience question.
And the question is as follows. This name perhaps best known to us as either part of the name of a feminist author and poet, or as the title of a 2009 vigilante film starring Vikram. It's one of the names of Lord Muruga, A Hindu deity, and means Lord of War. However, for a native from the West Coast of I1 could be forgiven for thinking the name means Lord of Onions. What is the name?
Let me repeat the question. This name perhaps best known to us as either part of the name of a feminist author and poet or the title of a 2009 vigilante film starring Vikram. It's one of the names of Muruga, A Hindu deity, and means Lord of War. However, for a native from the West Coast of I1 could be forgiven for thinking that the name means Lord of Onions. What is the name? Try and get the answer by the end of today's episode and I will reveal it as usual at the very end.
I can see. I think you're scratching his head, which is good because it means it's a good question, and it basically makes me feel really bad that this is not a question I came up with. This is one of Annie's classic questions, so you can see the class of the question and the question itself. The part about somebody from western India would think of it as a lot of onions was very Annie like. I I was going to just say that it sounds like Annie. Yeah, it is Annie's question.
OK. For those who came in late and who do not know, Annie is Annie Rutas in Gupta, Quiz master extraordinaire from Goa, who's been friend of the podcast and has been on a few episodes as well. Go check out our back catalog to find those episodes in which Annie does appear. So, Aditya, why don't you start us off with your question? All right, let's do something. I believe you'll crack very quickly. Oh no, I hate these. Oh. No, no, I'm pretty sure they'll do it very quickly.
And let's try that out. What event has happened thrice in history? Once in the 13th century, once in the 15th century and once in the 21st century. Ah, 13th century, 15th century, 21st century. Is it some kind of astronomical phenomenon? I would imagine astronomical phenomenons happen at some sort of regular interval, though. That's a good guess, but no. No, because I was thinking of the and deep cut for those who watch the show the Van Buren Supernova.
Yeah, as a supernova is sure fair enough. Won't be a regular occurring event, would be randomly spaced out, but no, not an astronomical event. I'm actually being a little vague because there might be other answers which fit this description, so let me be a little bit more specific. This happened first in 1294, second time in 1415 and the third time in 2013.
I was tempted to say the fire is in London, but no, when you've said the 1st 2:00, my head was like OK, I think he's going to say 9390490494. I was thinking of plagues, plague outbreaks, but that's not it either. No, no, no. Something that's happened only 3 * 2013 two popes, all right. Fair enough. Yeah, I'll give it to you. Not 2 popes exactly. Basically resignation of. Popes resignation, Yeah. So when you have a resigned Pope, OK, the papacy is an
office till date right? So technically even if somebody does resign, they're still popes. Hence 2 popes. I guess I don't know. I'm not very well versed with the intricacies of the papacy and what happens with the Vatican, though. I believe that the first time it happened was to Pope Celestine the 5th and he was actually some sort of a hermit, A monk, sort of a guy who was very upset at the Roman Catholic Church and he wrote an angry letter to the Cardinals.
And this was during a two year election. As soon as they received the letter, they elected him the Pope because they were addicted. And he tried to escape that, but unfortunately he couldn't. He had to be made the Pope. One of his only acts, he he tried to pass a few acts. One of his only acts was to decree that Pope's could resign, and he did so one week later. I think those are called the Papal nuncius, right? The acts of the decrees of a Pope. They're called Papal Nuncius.
Exactly so. Very few of his nuncius have lasted. The only one which has lasted is the ability for a Pope to resign from that office, which has been exercised as recently as 2013 and only the third time in history. Oh, OK, that's nice. That's Ratzinger. And so Pope Benedict and Francis, right? Yes, that would be it. All right now, since we're talking about the papacy and electing a Pope, and since that is something relevant right now, though probably not when this episode airs.
It'll be long done by the time this episode is out. I. Want to ask you if you know about this particular movement called Sedi vacantism. Sedi Vacantism. What sedi vacantism? Are you sure it's not pronounced Sidi? Vacant is all. I think it's vacant because it's something to do with vacancy. Vacant ISM. I'm going to choose to pronounce it Sidi Sidi Vacantism. OK. No, I mean like, no, Yeah. So that was the question. No, I have no idea what Sidi vacantism is. OK, that's not the interesting
part question. OK Sidi Vacantism is a traditionalist Catholic movement which holds that since 1958, Death of Pius the 12th. There has been no Pope the. Occupiers of the Holy See are not valid popes. Yeah, due to their espousal of one or more hell seas and that for lack of valid Pope, the Sea of Rome is vacant. Yes, I'm aware of that concept. I didn't know it was called SETI Vacant ISM, Yeah. One of the famous seti vacant vacant is I guess. Vacant.
Let's be French for this one. Yes, seti sedi vacant was this gentleman by the name of Monsieur Hoton? That's Monsieur. Monsieur, Monsieur also probably called Mr. Hutton. OK, this gentleman was an American conspiracy theorist, a Holocaust denier. OK, He wrote about sedevacantism. OK. You also fought in the Second World War, so he was a World War 2 veteran and he was the Jeopardy Grand Champion for 1968.
Wow, OK, that's a deep cut. All right, now, Mr. Hutton is probably more relevant or more famous today for being the father of someone. Do you know who he's the father of? Where isn't there an actor Timothy Hutton? Hutton is his first name, by the way. Oh, OK, yeah, OK TK. So if I. Give you the last name. It would be too easy. Oh, OK. Yeah, no, because I was thinking of Timothy. I think there's isn't he called Timothy Hutton, the guy who was the lead in leverage? Oh, yeah, there is.
There's Timothy Hutton. Wow, look at you. Yes, yeah. Leverage and ordinary people and taps and the dark half. OK, That's a great show, by the way, Leverage, fantastic. Show. Wow, Holocaust denier and he was a Jeopardy grand champion. Well, no, no, no clue. Actually, Holocaust denier might lead you to somewhere close to the answer. This person is famously OH. Wait, is this guy also a chess prodigy? No, no. No, he's he's not a chess Grand Master or anything.
No, no, no, no. No, so he doesn't have two kids who are kickboxers. No. Who's that? Who's the chess prodigy who has to? OK OK, forget my brain even went there. OK. It'll go on upon a tangent, so I'll explain myself to We've revealed the question. All right, OK. No dude, I Holocaust denier Ford. Harrison Ford is not not Holocaust denier. No, I was like, I wasn't thinking of Harrison Ford.
OK, you told me he's an actor. I should have been thinking of Harrison Ford. I was thinking of famous people who were also anti Semites and Nazi sympathizers. Ford, famously, was one. I don't know if we would call this actor a Nazi sympathizer, but he has made some anti-Semitic remarks for sure. Mel Gibson, Mel.
Gibson's father seriously was a Jeopardy Grand Champion for 1968. A World War 2 veteran, a Holocaust denier, he wrote about Cerie vacantism, and an American conspiracy theorist, as would probably be implied in all of this. Wow, that's a gentleman with a lot of hats. My God. So the thing. So let me just go in chronological order for those the audience who think I may
have gone mad. I had screamed out the Van Buren supernova in that particular voice because I was, let's just say, poking a little bit of fun at a particularly preposterous episode of Sherlock in which he deduces that painting is fake because he sees A star or a particularly bright star in the night sky in the painting, which he deduces it to be the Van Buren supernova, which happened after the painting was supposedly done. So then, yeah, I've never understood that. I'm as a painter.
I just put random dots in the sky to depict stars and whatnot. How could he possibly have thought of it as the No. So it's stupid Anyway. So that's the first thing. The second thing, the reason I was asking if the man was also a chess prodigy was because I don't know if you know this, but Andrew Tate's dad was chess grandmas, a very, very smart man. For a second I thought, OK, maybe you were going a little left field from here. So that's why. Andrew Tate is not really an
actor. He's not an actor, no, but my mind was going a little crazy over there, but yeah. Little bit of a stretch to call him an actor, but OK. I was talking about Mel Gibson, as you very correctly identified, and his father is Hutton Gibson. OK, who? Has held a lot of these interesting stances in his life. Yeah, the portion in your question about Jeopardy Champion kind of reminded me of another question I used to ask in the past when this person was more
relevant. Since he's not so relevant today, I don't know how interesting the question would be, but the questions are very straightforward. 1 You remember this old show called Boogie Boogie, which used to appear on Sony, of course. I almost appeared on it. Oh seriously, when was this? I was, I was meant to go on to boogie woogie and this was supposed to be as a dance group, so you could go on as an individual dancer or as a group. Individual or as a group? Yes.
So my group had qualified for it because they had to send in some videos. I don't even know how the qualifiers happened, but we had qualified for it and we were supposed to appear on the show. And I think that day or the day before that, I was diagnosed with the chickenpox. Oh, which meant that my entire group was also probably exposed so they couldn't go through. None of them had probably even
shown symptoms yet. I think some of them eventually did contracted and did end up with chicken pox. I was the first one who showed symptoms and so my entire group could not go. They didn't go for Boogie. Or not my commiserations. But for those who again, don't know. Or those born after 2000 who inexcusably don't know this, but Boogie Woogie was probably the most fun dance reality show and the OG dance reality show on Indian television hosted by Javed Jaffrey and his brother,
right? What was his name? Naved Jaffrey I think. Naved. Naved, yes. So it was a very fun show. Like Aditya mentioned, people would come on, dance and they would get judged and they would go move on and finally you would have a champion. There would be a Boogie Boogie champion. So the question I used to ask in the past was who was the South Zone champion of Boogie Boogie in 1995? That's a very specific question that I assume has an interesting answer, but no, I have no clue.
I'm not going to drag this out. Like I said, the man is not as relevant anymore, but he was relevant 10 to 12 years ago. The person I'm talking about is S Rishad, the cricketer. Oh, what? That's kind of cool. He can shake a leg. If you've seen him on these award shows or wherever he now appears a little bit, or even in the past where he used to appear, he used to always shake a leg a little bit. He can cut up rug, I think is the term. Tell me if I'm making a fool of
myself here. Cut up the rug. No, I don't think it's called cut up the rug. It's called Cut a Rug. If it isn't already, then it should be from now on. It should be. Yeah, it should be. We should have T-shirts made. Cut up. A rug. Cut up a rug. No, no, it's cut up. Oh, this is some indulgent humor right here. OK, that was a segue to absolutely nothing because the question I have planned has nothing to do with this, but it is a fantastic question. I feel so, So Aditya, the
question is as follows. This is an indulgent question, so please follow very carefully. X&Y were once married. After they split up, X made a movie, let's call that AX made a movie A in 2003 which starred Z Oh God, Aditya's got his hand up, he already knows this. OK, so before I kind of hang my head in shame and have not having been able to confuse this man for even 2 seconds, at least the audience is going to play.
So audience, you can listen to my question, pause, try to guess what it is, and then come back and watch Aditya flex. OK so after this split up X made a movie A in 2003 which starred Z in which X fictionalized parts of a relationship and depicted how she viewed her ex partner Y 10 years later in 2013 Y made a movie B which also had a fictionalized version of XB. Also that movie also starred the same person Z. Both movies A&B won the Oscar for best original screenplay.
Which movies am I talking about? Who are the married couple and who's the person who starred in both of these movies? Now Aditya is flexing so hard that my computer screen is starting to bend and warp. X would be Sofia Ford Coppola. Oh Y would be Spike Jones, Z would be Scarlett Johansson. Yes, A would be lost in translation and B would be her. Standing ovation my man. That was a master class and how to wreck a question which took me some time to make.
OK, I have to put this as a qualifier. I definitely have this on my own list of trivia to ask at surprise. OK, that explains it which. I and I have feeling this was going to happen. Poster 100th episode. I have feeling I have asked this already so I don't know if I have already asked this I but we're going to leave it in the episode. If a regular listener has heard this question before, please remind us so that we know that we should be more careful in the
future. If not, then great, we are doing fine. I don't think we have asked this question so. OK, well, in any case, I it was in my planned list of questions. So yeah, I can't, I can't flex too much. I'll flex a little bit. Can't flex too much. Nice, nice. OK, so in that case I claim a replacement question. OK, go for it. This is one of your favorite kinds of questions. It's a list non exhaustive. Shimla, Tirumala. Trivandrum, Rome. Istanbul. Moscow, Athens, Tehran.
Jerusalem Connect and you mentioned non exhaustive, right? Non exhaustive? Yes. Shimla, Istanbul, Rome, Tirumala, Tehran. Also, did you mention? Yes, Tehran, Jerusalem as well. Interesting. Yes, it is very interesting, eclectic. I did not know this piece of trivia when I just stumbled upon it. I was like. Huh. OK sorry this is going to out me as a little bit of an idiot, but Tirumala is in which state? Tirupati Tirumala. Tirupati, Andhra. Oh, OK. All right. Yeah, that's what I thought.
Tirupati is Tirumala, but I just want to. OK, Cool. Cool, cool. Wow. No idea at all. What? What, what could possibly? I'm OK, Let me just put it out there because I think our audiences also enjoy hearing a struggle. So first thing I thought of was airports for some reason, but I don't know. I don't think that is a connection at all. No, no the. Second thing I thought was some sort of a location for film series. James Bond is one of those that
is filmed in exotic locations. I don't think it's been filmed in Shimla ever. No or any other director I can't think of was filmed in all these places, so it's not movie either. Third thing I was going to go for was some sort of food, some sort of GI tag, but then that list is way longer and a lot more random. So no, these are my 3 guesses, which I don't think any of them are close to the answer. I'll give you a clue. So the clue would be to think of Rome because Rome.
Like if you asked about this trivia, what I am giving is the answer to this question. If you asked about that to somebody, chances are they would only say Rome, or at least most people, because Rome is most famous for this.
Not that the other cities are not famous, but they are famous about the further maybe in that vicinity or locality of people of that area know about it, but Rome is particularly famous for it. Oh, isn't Rome one of those cities that there is a city called Rome on every continent? No, no, that's not it. I would be very surprised if you found Shimla in every continent. Yeah, Tirumala in South America would be. Unexpected Jerusalem, yes. Tehran, maybe, but. Fair enough.
And so Rome would be the most obvious answer to this trivia question. If I reversed it, if I did a Jeopardy version of it? The trivia that comes to mind with Rome, and maybe because it's in the news right now, is always the Vatican. No, it's nothing related to the Vatican. OK, no idea then. No, no, no clue. OK. This is basically a combination of history and geography, both combined. So there's something geographical which is very important on for the history of
these cities. Something geographical. Their their terrain is also pretty different. Shimla, Tehran. You would think so, but apparently not. Are they? Is Rome? Is it in a valley? Are these cities in valleys? Oh, very close. But there's something else. There's a sobriquet. That's our sobriquet, which is usually referring to Rome, which is actually not so unique. What's the subrique for Rome? The the ancient city They I don't know what the subrique is for Rome. No idea.
I think I'll need a more specific look because I'm really grasping in the dark right now. No idea what the Subrique for Rome is. Oh, OK, let's also give you a clue that it involves a quote UN quote holy number. 7 Something to do with seven, yes, seven hills or something. Is there something like that or what? Yes, Rome is known as the city of Seven Hills. OK. But not just Rome, there are a huge host of cities which claimed have claimed to have
been built on seven hills. OK, this is interesting. Which include Shimla, Trivandrum, tirumala, Rome, Istanbul, Moscow, Athens, Terra and Jerusalem St. Paul, MN, Staten Island, NY in India itself, Bhopal, Mumbai. Apparently it was known as. Seven islands. Yeah, so that Aman from Jordan, Brussels from Belgium. Prague is supposed to have been built on seven or nine hills, depending upon who you ask. Very interesting. So this could potentially have some sort of mystical relevance
also? Like people choose to count only the seven, Yes. Possible. Yeah, people. Maybe that's why people either chose this or retro respectively. Want to call it that way? Even Athens. The historical seven hills of Athens are Acropolis, Aeropagus, Phillipapu, Hill of the Nymphs, Pinks, Lycabettus and Tukovuni. I have. Climbed Mount Lycabettus, very lovely view of Athens from the top of Mt Lycabethus. Really. I was hoping I'll hear that name. Very nice.
What do I do with this bugger? That was, that was not a flex. I mean, it sounded like a flex. I just need to clarify that was not a flex. It was just. Yes, yes, yes. It's what we call in the industry is a humble brag, Yeah. Humble brag, that is it. But you know, you got it in the end. Very cool. I was very surprised by this fact that so many cities. There's an entire Wikipedia page on the list of cities claiming to have been built on Seven Hills. Go check it out.
OK, I'm very cool. I will have a look. Yacht on. All right, since this is an interesting phenomenon, I'm going to segue to another interesting phenomenon, I guess. OK. Yeah, identify the phenomenon that was first pointed out by marketing strategist Doctor Dan Herman in 1996, who conducted research and published the first academic paper on this topic in 2000 in the Journal of Brand Management.
OK. This coincided with the advent of the Internet. OK, before the Internet there was a related phenomenon which would probably best be characterized as an English idiom. OK. And this idiom originates with the comic strip created by Arthur Moment in 1913, which ran until 19. 401913 to 1940. Yeah. Wow, I am completely lost in the weeds here. So there's some phenomenon which was reported by this guy called Daniel Herman. Correct, Dan Herman. OK, now let's get a little bit more specific.
I'll give you some further history attached to this. OK. Author Patrick McGuinness coined the term that we identify this phenomenon today with and popularize it in a 2004 op-ed In The Harbors, which is the magazine of the Harvard Business. School, OK. So it's a business terminology, I'm guessing marketing business. That's what is interesting. It's not really a business terminology. It's not really a key. First, the phenomenon was identified in Journal of Brand Management.
The related phenomenon, which was before the Internet came up in the comic strip from 1913 to 1940, and the term itself, which we probably today recognize it most popularly with, was coined by the author Patrick McGuinness and popularized in an op-ed in the Harvard Business School magazine Harbus in 2004. So this is kind of the history of this particular term, which means a certain phenomenon. And the comic strip was from 1930 to 1940 and was authored by Arthur.
Momand. That does not ring a bell at all. 1913 to 19. Was it like a pulp comic? I don't know if you would call it a pulp comic. No, probably not. OK. It was published in the New York World and other newspapers as well. So it's a proper comic strip, OK. Yeah. Would I know this comic by the way? You have probably heard of the idiom that is basically the name of the comic strip. The name of the comic strip is an idiom. Popular English idiom.
OK, let me give you a hint as to what the idiom means. OK, the idiom basically means how one compares themselves to their neighbors. Compare Keeping Up with the Joneses. Very nice. Alright, Keeping Up with the Joneses is actually a comic strip from the 1910s. OK, OK. Got it. OK, OK.
Yeah. So keeping up with the Joneses, that essence, that meaning was later identified as a phenomenon much later in 1996 and was an academic paper on it was written in 2000. And then the term that we identify this phenomenon with today was written in the Harvard Business School magazine Harvest in 2004. The only marketing thing that's coming to my head is predictably rational Dan Ariel's book I. Remember, keeping up with the Joneses related is is a very related phenomenon.
So, yeah, so I'm guessing it's a marketing thing because they're using. It isn't actually in marketing thing, it is. It is a very social thing. I would say it's something that everybody experiences at some point in their life. And I would know this term. Oh, 100% yeah. A fast fashion or something like that? A more general term, actually, Yeah. Fast fashion could be an expression of this phenomenon, yeah.
I will need some other clue. So the clue that I'll give you is the name of the article that was in the Harvard Business School magazine. The article was titled McGuinness 2 Fo's. Patrick McGuinness was the author. McGuinness 2. Fo's Social theory at HBS and Fo's is spelled Capital F Capital OS smaller. My brain automatically went to Fofo, which is franchise you own, franchise you operated. Or a lot more universal than Fofo, but very. Oh FOMO FOMO. Yes, fear of missing out.
Yeah, you're right. OK. OK. That was as far back as 96. I was so surprised the phenomenon was first. I didn't write in 96. I thought it was a much more recent thing. I thought it was the past ten years or. Something. Yeah, I was very surprised. That is what caught my attention, that it is actually that old mind blown Exactly. Yeah. Do you want to try to guess? This will be very difficult, but do you want to try to guess what the other FO McGuinness spoke about?
Oh yeah, he said. Two fours, right. Hence that's what I'm saying. Franchise you want. Franchise you operated. No, no, no. No, it's social theory. Social Theory. Actually, what? I'll tell you what it is. I'll tell you what it is. You tell me what the full form of it could be. Fo Bo is the other one that he was talking about. What do you think Fo Bo refers to? Fear of breaking out into hives fo Bo. Fo Bo, this is a very tough one.
I've never heard of it anywhere else except on this particular article. It is fear of a better opinion which does make sense. I I can relate to that. Fear of a better opinion, as in what does that mean? I imagine, OK, that's not explained here, but I imagine it's the fact that there could be a better opinion out there. Like you're probably not getting the best opinion on anything for that matter. Oh so that explains why my wife keeps shopping and going to multiple different shops or
something that. Oh, let's not let your wife hear this at all. No, I mean like it's not just my wife. I see a lot of people do this. My concept of shopping is have an idea of what you want, go tell the salesperson exactly what you want. They'll give you 4 or five choices, Pick one and be done with it. Yeah, I think this is something I learnt. I don't know if it is my mum who
taught me or some friend. Basically like once you have bought something, don't stop, go into another shop and ask for the same. I keep telling them it's like a never ending chain, no matter how good a thing you get you're going to say let's see if I can find something better and then you end up like a zombie in a department store. This is ridiculous and I spent 3 hours sitting there while people
offer me insipid tea. Hey listen, honestly if you're doing stereotypes I would say going shopping for the same thing multiple times is better than men who go through midlife crisis and end up starting. Podcasts. Starting podcasts. That is, that is fair, I think, as far as gender stereotypes go. I am self aware, I can probably call myself middle-aged, but not Aditya. He's still young. Kuwara. Fast approaching. OK, so for more actually traces
its history back to the 90s. Wow, did not know that. Alright, your question next, Vineet. Yes, it is my turn to inflict the pain. OK, I'm fairly sure you know this, but I'm going to ask it anyway. In living color. You've heard of Indiana living color? So in Living Color, for those who don't know, there was an American sketch comedy television show that originally ran on Fox from April 15th, 1990 to May 19, 1994.
Heenan Ivory Wayans. Yes of that Wayans created, wrote and starred in the program. The show also starred very at the time several previously unknown comedians and actors including Jamie Foxx, Jim Carrey, Tommy Davidson and many others. The show introduced Jennifer Lopez as a member of the Living Colours dance troupe called The Fly Girls, for which the actor Rosie Perez was the choreographer. This is all just background fluff. Let's get to the meat of the matter.
On January 26th, 1992, In Living Color broadcast a live show which ended up having massive ratings. This directly led to the inception of which modern pop culture phenomenon? I can see a smirk on this bugger's face, so I'm fairly sure he knows this, no? No, no, I just because you said January 26th, I was like, oh, it can't be any related to India. On January 26th, 1992, In Living Color broadcast a live show. Massive ratings.
OK. And that directly led to the inception of which modern day pop culture phenomena? No idea what the hell. So I will give you a clue. The live broadcast was a counter program for something that was happening on Fox's rival CBS. OK, January 26th, 1992. I was going to say, is it something to do with the presidential swearing in ceremony? But that would happen in 1993. This phenomenon actually the like the live show was in 1992, but the result of it was seen in 1993. OK.
Specifically, January 31st, 1993. OK, and I'll give you one more very famous piece of trivia associated with the thing that happened in 1993 is that it was 2 minutes late. Oh I OK so this is something I read recently. I had no idea this had any connection to in Living Colour but 1983 and two minutes later thing because I saw I think an Instagram real about it recently where Michael Jackson said the music will only be played when I put on my sunglasses or my shades or whatever.
Yes. So he just stood still. Stood still for two minutes and the entire crowd waited. My God, that man was a force to reckon with. Genius. Whatever his legacy might be and his his controversies, but you cannot deny the fact that he was something exceptional on stage. Yes. So this has to be the half time Super Super Bowl half time show, yes? So you've got it right. It is the Super Bowl half time show. Let's rewind the clock to prior to 1992.
So prior to 1992, it's not that Super Bowl did not have the Super Bowl did not have 1/2 time show. It did have 1/2 time show, but those were like small variety acts, you know, marching bands and that kind of thing. Quite boring. So if you go on YouTube you can see some vintage, I think there's 120 minute performance from from 1983, which was really, really boring, not even considering the shitty television quality, but it was
really boring. And in 1992, when In Living Color broadcast their live show, they are broadcasted at the same time as CBS's live telecast of the Super Bowl. This basically took away a lot of their audience, the Super Bowl audience. This prompted the NFL to book a list acts for future game entertainment, starting with Michael Jackson the following year.
So Michael Jackson's iconic show and a lot of other iconic things that have happened, including something very infamous courtesy Justin Timberlake, has also happened. Yeah, all of that happened because In Living Colour broadcast a live show which took away so many eyeballs from the Super Bowl that they decided, Nope, we are not going to do that anymore. Interesting, very interesting. I actually remember reading about that costume malfunction in in that particular Super Bowl.
The 2004 Super Bowl was it. Yeah, it was some early 2000s, yes. And I, at that point, had no idea what the Super Bowl was. And yet that became such a big culture from that. I remember somehow it permitted through to wherever I was, whatever I was doing in school, this young child. And I just remember hearing that, oh, there was a malfunction that happened on stage during a performance. And that's how much of an impact cultural impact Super Bowl halftime shows have had.
Yeah. Can't minimize this interesting event in Living Colour, by the way, Kendrick Lamar's 1/2 time show, My God. Oh, that man was so good. Yeah, I'm not a big Kendrick Lamar fans. You know, I also didn't I, I, I don't care too much about this Kendrick Drake food and all that didn't matter to me. Yeah, I just don't get it. They both suck. Oh, wow, you took it to holy level. All right, I'm not going to comment on that, but yeah, I did not care so much for it. But then I saw it.
I was like, oh, man, this guy had truly had some stage presence. I love it. But yeah, OK, cool piece of trivia. I like it. Very nice. And I don't know how many in the audience would have been lucky enough. I consider myself lucky enough, my first exposure to this particular halftime show, that Michael Jackson had performed one of the greatest performances ever. That happened because in those days, Michael Jackson used to release video cassettes, VHS
cassettes of his music videos. So there was a particular collection of VHS called Dangerous, the short films. OK. Which was a huge set of all his songs from the album, right? There's Black or White, there's Will You Be There, There's Gone Too Soon, Heal the World, all of that. And one of the performances of Heal the World in that video cassette was the Super Bowl half time version. OK.
It's fantastic 1 and I feel so much nostalgia for that period of time when you used to get all of Michael Jackson's music videos on a single VHS. You put it on a Friday afternoon because obviously Friday is the holiday in the Middle East. For the next 1 1/2 to two hours, you are completely transported into Michael Jackson's world. It's Michael Jackson's world, and we're all just living in it. Fair. There was a definitely time when that was true.
And a similar thing, I don't know if it's still available, but I don't know if many people remember him, but there was a magician illusionist by the name of David Copperfield. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah, his tricks. He included making an elephant vanish in front of people. He vanished an entire aeroplane and the most famously, he vanished the Statue of Liberty. I do not know this. OK, interesting.
Yes. So David Copperfield also had this kind of cassette collection in which he showed all his greatest tricks, and he had a supermodel girlfriend at the time. So the video starts with her walking into his kind of hangar of wonders, and then he starts telling her a story. And each story ends up in this major trick that he's done, which included, you know, vanishing an airplane and vanishing the Statue of Liberty, walking through the Great Wall of China.
He starts from one end, and then he ends up on the other with an unbroken camera shot. I think he still performs in Las Vegas, but he's nowhere near his old. Not that famous. Yeah, yeah. Not that famous anymore, but if you can get a hold of his collection of videos it it's it's an lost art making those kind of cassettes where the compilations make you entertained. I don't know, I just don't see it anymore. Like that's not just only for
VHS, it was also for music. You remember those collections called Now That's What I Call Music. I don't actually know. I don't remember. Oh my God I am dating myself so bad. I am properly mid middle-aged now. My podcast partner does not know about Now That's what I call music. Hey, maybe. Maybe I was just out of the loop, maybe I didn't. I just didn't know. I was not cool enough perhaps.
It was everywhere. So yeah, no, I I think it was after I think the 2010 that it kind of completely went. Right. No. But I also think because you were in the Middle East for a while and I was born in India. So I think there was probably a little bit more technology penetration over there. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, that's true. So it could be that. Could be that, could be that, but yeah. OK. Long long winded segue for no reason.
Half time shows. Alright, so that's something that started, as you said, in the 90s, right? Yes. That gives me a perfect segue because I'm going to talk about something else iconic from the 1990s as well. Oh, what is that? The 1990s thing is actually the final answer, but let's start from the beginning. So I want you to tell me the name of the first ruler of the Kingdom of Hawaii. Kamehameha. Oh my Lord, that was so quick. OK, you're going to go to Dragon Ball.
Z Yeah, I was going to go to Dragon Ball. Z It was going to be. AI would also flex and say I would have also included Magnum Pi in that because Magnum's friend Rick is the manager of the Kamehameha Club. You're you're adding to my question things I didn't even know myself. OK, fair enough. Fair enough. Very impressive. So what happened actually, since you probably already know this
for our listeners benefit. Yes. The creator of Dragon Ball, the very famous anime that maybe a lot of us saw 90s kids, especially Akira Toriyama, was trying to come up for the name of the iconic pose. And his wife suggested the name Kamehameha, which was the name of the Hawaiian King, the first Hawaiian king. And she thought this would be easy to remember and sounds rather unique. And he loved the sound of it. He loved how it fit into his vision of that iconic action.
And anybody who has not seen it, please go YouTube what Kameha Meha looks like right now. You probably have seen it and probably don't remember it if you haven't seen the show, but you have seen other people do versions of it. It was that iconic. And Kameha Meha, the iconic move from Dragon Ball Z is named after Hawaiian King. And Vineet not even let me get to the question before he answered my entire question. That was the cool piece of trivia though. I will pass this on to Udayan.
Udayan saying who? Whose question? By the way, Vineet also asked in a previous episode. No Udayan was kind enough to send me some questions as well. And out of all the questions that he sent, this was the first one that caught my eye. So I might ask the rest of them in some future episode. But thanks Udayan for this question. And hey, listen, don't, don't beat yourself up, OK? This this Vineet is just vineet can't. Help me. No, let me just be frank about this.
The only reason I know this is because I'm an avid consumer of 80s and 90s TV shows. I'm somebody who perpetually lives in nostalgia, and I have watched all eight seasons of Magnum Pi maybe 3-4 times. Oh wow.
Yes, yes. As I mentioned, Magnum's big close friend Rick, one of his compatriots from the Vietnam War was Rick, who settled on the island and became the manager of the Kamehameha Club, which I, I don't know if the pronunciation was Kamehameha. I, I always thought it was Kamehameha because they said Kamehameha Club. That's the only reason. And then once I was curious as to why did they call this club the Kamehameha Club. And I realized that this was that.
And the Dragon Ball Z trivia came very quick. You know, closely after after when you once you start digging with that name, obviously search has come up with Dragon Ball Z. So this happened almost a decade ago. But yeah, I've never forgotten Kamehameha. Well done, very well done, but then next time when you send me any questions, I will make sure I'll make it as tough as possible for this genius. No, no, this is like I said, I only know this because of. Right.
Yeah. You are an avid consumer of literally everything we need. You can't use that as an excuse. You, you know, everything. It's just that's the short of it all. Just to tell people this is a pop culture recommendation. It may not be easy to consume, it may not be easy to find. But please watch the original, not the remake, the original version of a Magnum Pi. It is quite a dense watch. There are a lot of filler episodes and what not, but the soundtrack is fantastic.
There's an episode where Magnum is being hunted by an assassin and the Genesis song Mama plays in the background. It's just a fantastic, fantastic sequence. The entire sequence of the song just builds and builds and builds Peter Gabriel. And then there's Tom Selleck, and then there's his moustache, which itself is a different character. Yeah, I just have to watch Magnum Pi 80s in all of his glory. Tom Selleck with his mustache was was a force to reckon with
as well. Alright, Vineet, I believe you have the last question. Yes. So I will now ask a question from Anatomy. OK. So it's a very simple question. Which organ in the human body was named after the scientist who discovered it? And a musical instrument. An organ named after the person who discovered it and a musical instrument. I don't know why is pancreas the answer. No, no, no, no. OK, it sounded like it could be some sort of Hispanic name.
I don't know why. OK, not the pancreas, then. I'm sure there are a lot of things named after people who discovered it. But this is, oh, you said an organ, so it can't be like a bone or something, right? It's not a bone, it's an organ. It's something you've heard of OK, but you probably think it's named after something else. OK, the esophagus. Nope. OK, I'm just trying to think of things which which have which. I can't think of any clear etymology though.
Honestly, I can't think of clear etymology for any of the organs. I don't know what stomach is named after the brain because the brain discovered itself. Come on Vineet, you gotta give me that one. What musical instrument are we talking about there? Something vibranium. Never mind, I'm going to stop. Now, Oh my. God, something to do with vibrations? That is so stupid. No, some organ that is name of the person who discovered it. OK, give me some some hint. OK, think women. Women.
Ovary. Ovary. Can't think of an instrument close to an ovary. Is it ovary and I'm just? It is not. OK, women, what else? The uterus again, not an instrument, right? No it's not. Don't beat yourself up. To be honest, when I ask this question to my wife again, she's going to kill me for saying this, but she had most of your same guesses as well. OK, press Mammary glands of fallopian tubes. A fallopian tube. Yes, it is the fallopian tube. But what? I know this was my exact
reaction. Mr. Fallopian. Actually, I shouldn't assume it is Mr. Fallopian. It could be Miss Fallopian. And so who discovered fallopian tubes? It was discovered by a 16th century anatomist by the name of Gabrielle Fallopio. Italian, obviously. OK. So we call it the Fallopian tube from the name that he gave it, which was tuba. You try, And he gave that name not because it was a tube, but because the structure resembled. Tuba. Trumpet. Not exactly the tuba which is a a trumpet like thing.
So then he basically named it trumpet tuba, which is near the you try and hence called it tuba you try. And when it was anglicized, they were like, ah, OK, so then it's fallopian's tube, Fallopian tube, Fallopian's tube. OK, that's. Pretty cool. That's pretty cool. The tube comes from tuba, not from a tube, even though it is a tube. So we never know. May somebody might have been very clever while naming it. Interesting.
OK I just pulled it up on my computer because I was trying to figure out what this man looks like that why I wanted to see him. Gabriel Philopio. He is also someone after whom Philopian Canal is named, which is in the skull. Yeah, that's not a very popular one. Yeah, yeah. And some Philopian ligament as well. So quite a few body parts named after this guy. Oh yeah, yeah, there, there, there are a lot of people who have a multiple eponyms in the human body.
All right, what part of the human body would someone name after you, Vineet? Why would they name any body part after me? I don't know you're in the Medical Sciences. You might make some medical scientific discovery. Yeah, if I was born like 400 years ago, that would make sense. OK, I'm sure most of the organs the human body discovered, but maybe like a like. Oh no.
I'll tell you. I'll tell you the one thing they could possibly still name after me is a new gene that's discovered, which basically has a mutation in that gene causes somebody to be compelled to host a podcast or something like that. VGN 1 gene. All right, We we have to figure out the source for this and then try to help people suffering from the VGN 1 gene. I think Joe Rogan has two of those. Mutated, yeah. OK, cool.
Fun questions today. This is a fun episode, but should we wrap it up with the audience question? I'm still wondering about that one. OK. So the audience question. Which I had asked at the beginning of today's episode, and hopefully which some of you have guessed the answer to, was this name. Perhaps best known to us as either part of the name of a feminist author and poet, or the title of a 2009 vigilante film starring Vikram.
It is one of the names of Muruga, the Hindu deity, and means Lord of War. However, for a native from the West Coast of I1 could be forgiven for thinking that the name means Lord of Onions. What's the name? Hmm, Lord of War. Oregon Lord of Onions Onions West of India Kanda Kandivali, Oh, it's a suburb in. Mumbai, but. I don't think that's the answer. Freeze that thought and then think of. Feminist authors and poets from Chennai. This is going to be. Embarrassing.
I'm not sure I know too many feminist authors and poets from Chennai who write for the Outlook India. Who write for The Hindu? Who was the editor of the Dalit, which was a bimonthly magazine of the Dalit Media Network? It's called the Dalit. Yeah, OK. No, no, no idea. No idea at all, Sir. OK. So you had it very closely? With the play on words which is Kanda which is onions. So the actual name is Kandaswami.
Oh, OK, so Kandaswami. There was a. 2009 vigilante quasi superhero movie called Kandaswami starring Chi and Vikram, the South Indian Tamil superstar. The name of the feminist author and poet is Meena Kandaswami or the full name being Elevanil Meena Kandaswami. And the name is also one of the names of the God Muruga, also known as Karthikeya. And it means a lot of war, but you could mistake it for a lot of onions, a lot of.
Onions pretty cool. I'm I'm woefully ignorant about Meenak and Sami, but I will try to correct that as soon as possible. And again, once again, shout out. To Annie, this was his question, which he asked in one of his quizzes. So I poached it and I own up to my theft. So thank you, Annie. Oh. Annie would only be proud of you. Vinny, that was a great question. And do you credit to a great quizmaster for coming up with it? Yeah. So Aditya before. We wrap up.
What's your pop culture recommendation? The 1st and the. Perhaps the most important recommendation I can make right now. Please, please go to the theatres and catch it. Though I believe by the time this episode comes out it won't be in theatres anymore. But I hope you have caught it. If not, catch it on your OTT platform sinners. Oh what a phenomenal. I saw that on IMAX it. Was amazing. That was such a good. Film Spectacular. This movie if it does not get
recognized. At the Oscars next year, Yeah, I am going to stop watching Oscars and I'm going to stop carrying on. No, seriously, it is just fantastic. And it's a musical that doesn't feel like a musical. There's no song. There's no performance in that, which kind of stands out as a oh, this is just a song they put in. Everything is seamless. A friend asked me to describe the genre and I. Was like, I don't know, horror, but thriller but with a lot of sociopolitical commentary.
Yeah, and sociopolitical commentary. Musical as like, it defies every single genre label I can think of. Exactly. And it somehow is. Better than. Anything else I've seen in the long, long time Yes, and Michael B Jordan. As the smokestack twins. Oh, so good. Props to him. I could without even like they were very helpful with the blue cap and the Red Hat. But even without that, just his body language and his delivery dialogue delivery, you were able to make out who's tack and who's smoke.
It was phenomenal, which by the way, due. Credit to the director and Coogler who has been making some great films. I was actually not that big a fan of both the Black Panthers. They were decent films and get too much for them. Creed was phenomenal. I really like Creed. So Michael B Jordan has been in every single film of his. And Sinners is the latest outing from director and Coogler starring Michael B Jordan and you must watch it. You must watch it on OTT and not
just watch it you. Should listen to the soundtrack, the soundtrack, the soundtrack. I have been. Obsessing. Oh my God, it is. So good. So good I. Know we're gushing. Over this? Movie, but I too had it on my pop culture recommendation list. You should see it on the biggest screen possible. I know this is going to be really bad because by the time this episode comes out the movie will be way out.
Way long ago it would have gone out of theaters, but I saw it in IMAX and I did not regret it even for a second. The movie just pulls you in, but what I really loved about it was the inspiration behind this thing was one of my favorite legends, which I've also asked as a question on this podcast. OK, so that's the spoiler then. After the podcast, and you have to remind me because I don't. Yes, yes, I'm going to tell you after the podcast. Cool, cool, cool.
Very cool. Alright, that is, I think I want to leave it at that because I've gushed enough. Yes. So that is my pop culture recommendation for today. I've already given a bunch of pop culture. Recommendations This episode and I join in with Aditya. Definitely Sinners. I think it's one of the best movies of 2025 so far. Really good. I've already recommended. Magnum Pi, which I would, you know, recommend everybody please watch. It's a fantastic show.
There's nothing more to be said about it. Just go watch it for wherever possible. If you do want to pick out one particular episode, I would say have you seen The Sunrise Part 1 and Part 2? Fantastic. And if you're a Psych fan, you know what I'm talking about. And the other show that I recommended in today's episode was Leverage. Go watch the original run and then you can watch the fresh new version, which I don't believe is as good as the first five
seasons. But definitely Timothy Hutton, fantastic performer. That's great. And Sinners as well. Again, Sinners, trust me, it is better than what we've told you. Yes, yes. We've gushed enough and we've gone on. Long enough, today's been an episode where we've gone on tangents quite often and hopefully that hasn't bored you. And that's all for this episode. No more rambling, no more tangents anymore. Thank you for listening in. We hope you enjoyed the show and learn something new.
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