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Episode 087 - Good Sign, Bad Sign & Exit Sign

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Do you know how the song 'Bad Sign Good Sign' composed by Monty Norman is permanently etched in pop culture? Do you know which word first mentioned in Liber Medicinalis was written by Londoners on their doorways to ward off the plague ? Do you know what signage did P T Barnum use to make sure guests exited quickly and didn't linger around the displays and exhibits for too long?


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Welcome to Are You Quizzing Me. I am Vineet Nair with my Co host Aditya Kashyap. This is a quizzing trivia podcast show. Join us as we dive deep into history, science, pop culture and so much more. Let's get quizzing and we're back for episode number 87 of Are You Quizzing me? Your favorite quizzing and trivia podcast show. Aditya and I are back for another round of quizzing, and let's start off today's episode

with the audience question. This is a question that I asked at the beginning of the episode and the answer to which I revealed at the. End of it. The question for you, our dear audience today is on 8th of May 2006, the television station BBC News 24 wanted to interview technology journalist Guy Queenie about the Apple corpse versus Apple computer legal dispute.

By mistake. The BBC LED Karen Bauman interview Guy Gomer, a Congolese French business studies graduate from Brazzaville in the Republic of Congo, who came to the BBC for a job interview as a data cleanser. The incident became one of BBC's most widely reported bloopers, something which has become very ingrained in Northern Day pop culture. When introduced by interviewer Karen Baumann as an Internet expert, Goma realized that there had been a misunderstanding and was visibly shocked.

Aware that he was on live television and not wishing to make a scene, Goma attempted to answer questions about the Apple call versus Apple computer case and it's ramifications. This, as I mentioned, is an incident which is ingrained in pop culture. My question has however, slightly towards left field who owned Apple Cops, which was in a legal battle with Apple Computers on which Goma was expected to commentate. So that's the question that I

have for you, my dear audience. Hopefully some of you will know the answer. So then keep it in mind and see if you're right by the end of today's episode. So let's start out regular round of quizzing. Aditya, why don't you start us off with that question? All right. Welcome back, Vineet. This is good to be back in our regular setting. For our first question, I actually have something that I've been wanting to ask for a very long time.

It's been in my backup questions, so I'm going to ask it today. When Sony Walkman in 2014 launched a new model for the earphones, they advertised a feature in a very unique way, especially in New Zealand, from whatever I could tell. So they advertise it in their packaging. The packaging was uniquely done.

To. Exemplify or to emphasize upon a certain feature of the Walkman. What feature was it that this new model of earphones had that Sony was trying to emphasize with that unique packaging back in 2014, especially in New Zealand, I mean, New Zealand part is not really important. It just so happened that it was in New Zealand. OK. And this is specific to the

earphones. Yes. And the year again, which year was this 20/14/2014 When you say earphones and Walkman, the first thing that comes to mind, but I don't know why it would be unique and it's too late for 2014 would be noise cancellation. Is that the feature? No, it's. Not OK, I wasn't expecting that to be but OK. So then what else is it got like an inbuilt hardware equalizer on the headphones? OK, so when I said unique, I don't mean to imply that it was the first time that was being

done. I'm pretty sure there were models that had this feature. It was just something that they were trying to emphasize in their new model. It was Sony's W series Walkman, by the way. You. Know the earphones? Are those the ones with the kind of hook that go over your ears? So they don't, you don't drop, they don't drop out of your ear. No. Then I'll need a clue, OK? So this particular Walkman was being sold in vending machines across New Zealand in places like gyms.

Oh was sweat resistant. Not too off, but I'm still asking about what is the unique packaging feature. You're kind of there in the vicinity in terms of the feature, but I'm asking you about what was the packaging that was meant to emphasize this feature? Is it like water resistant packaging or something else? What? OK, perfect, you got it right. It was a water resistant feature that they were trying to emphasize as being the USB for the W series. But what was special about the packaging?

Did they challenge people to pour water on it, on the fact that it would not become soggy? I don't know. I'm not particularly very creative when it comes to this kind of stuff. Soggy earphones I love. I know. Actually I don't. I'll take that back. I do not love the sound of that at all. I have lost an earphone or two to water so no. I'm talking about especially. How was this particular thing packaged? Like I said, it was sold in vending machines in gym so that

should probably give you a hint. Vending machines in gyms. How was this packaged? Oh, was this in the form of a can? OK, I'll give it to you. It's very close. It was basically called the bottled Walkman. So it was sold in a bottle of water. So they actually put the earphone inside a bottle of water to sell it. It's pretty cool. You can actually go check out pictures of this. And it is a bottle of water with

earphones inside. And I mean, I don't know, I guess you throw the water out because nobody is going to want to drink water which has had earphones in it. Yeah, I. Don't think you. For weeks or months. I guess so, but they were selling it in gyms in a vending machine to emphasize the fact that these are water resistant. As water resistant as it gets. Just immersed in water and not soggy. Very nice. Yeah, But it is that that's

pretty creative. There is no better proof of concept or at least proof of the fact that it works the other than, you know, having to be able to show that it is water. Like you're literally getting it while it's immersed in water. Nice question. So my next question has. Absolutely nothing to do with any of it.

So that's going to be my segue moving to something from Sony Walkman to something that has absolutely nothing to do with it. So this is a very simple question and I have to credit Annie, who's been our quiz Master one on on our previous episode for this question. So this is the question. Please pay very close attention to it. AB. This is a name. It has two parts, hence AB. AB is the protagonist of the book X, which is not a one word

title. That's just I'm putting X as a placeholder for the name of the book, but it's not a one word title. Published in 1958 and it has a very famous 1961 film adaptation which is also has the same name. Now when you look at the name ABA is the name of a plant associated with a certain festival and B is a relatively uncommon name which if split into two would be a phrase meaning tread softly. Can you identify the book and the character? The character features in the

book and the movie, right? Yes, the book and the movie. And the last name split into two would mean tread softly. Yes, and the first name, or the first name is the name of a plant associated strongly with a particular festival. Did you mention if this is an Indian book or did you not mention that? I have not mentioned about the country of publication, no. OK, would that be too much of a giveaway? Not particularly.

I can tell you it's not India. OK, because the reason is because I was thinking are these words the name of the flower and the tread softly? Are they English words or am I supposed to be thinking in some other language? No, they are English. They are English. OK, got it. So tread softly, walk soft, OK? And you have a flower, a plant. Plant. Sorry, no context to this at all. OK, the profession of AB is still a point of debate today.

Very obscure clue, but if you are a movie buff, you would probably have a hint you are a movie buff. So that's why I'm trying to make it difficult while at the same time make you go oh when you hear the answer. If you don't go oh. Then I failed. That's a good benchmark. Like, how much do you, how long is the awe when you hear the answer? Yeah. Can you tell me the release date of the book and the movie One more time? 1958 is the book and 61 is the film. Oh that's not an easy guess then.

No man, I have literally no clue for this. OK, so the movie is remembered even today for launching a very famous fashion trend, which is it's one of those fashion trends which never go out of fashion. I would say launching it, but it kind of brought it into the public consciousness. There's one particular fashion choice, or at least fashion. Oh, Holly Golightly, this is Breakfast at Tiffany's. Yes, it is. It is Holly Golightly for Breakfast at Tiffany's what gave me away.

The little black dress. The little black dress, yes. And the clue regarding her profession being hotly debated is that there is an ongoing debate as to whether Holly Golightly is an actual prostitute or not. Oh, OK. But according to Truman Capote himself, who was the author of Breakfast at Tiffany's, Polly Golightly is not a prostitute. She's more like an American geisha is his way of. Oh, OK, OK, OK. Yeah, so props to Annie for this question.

He excels at making these kind of questions and I just loved it, so I had to steal it. Thank you, Annie. Yeah, Holly Golightly. I like it. That's pretty cool. OK, Since we are doing questions that people have bestowed upon us, I will ask you a question that a regular listener of ours, Parag, who's also a friend of mine, and I met him very recently when I was travelling.

It was very funny because he's like, you know, it doesn't even feel like that it's been that long since I met you because I listened to your podcast very regularly. And that was a very sweet thing to have said. And I'll tell you another interesting thing that happened, but I'll tell you after the question. So let's do the question 1st. And this has an audio component, but I'm not going to give it upfront, so we'll play the audio later. Let me just describe it first.

Are you familiar with VS Naipaul's novel A House for Mr. Biswas? Yes. I feel like you already know where this question is going. Like I see something in your eyes. Yes, I do know where this question is going. I already know what the answer is. I know what the question is also going to be, but that's going to be too much of A flex, so I'm going to sit here and wait for you to ask the question so that I can pounce. Vineet, I'll let you do this. You deserve it.

I will ask the full question. No worry. But this is a chance for the audience to know just how smart. I mean, they already do. One more evidence in that. Go for it. Tell me what the answer is. OK, the theme for James Bond. Oh God, man, you did not disappoint ever. This just refuse to let me down. I love it. I love it.

You know, I do this in with the quizzes that I host where if I start a question and somebody just raises the placard or raises their hand before I've even completed the first sentence, I'm like, you know what? If you give me the right answer at this point, I'm going to give you all the points. Every single point I have is yours and obviously they back off because I mean it as a joke. I assume that they're not going to be able to answer it, but.

Vineet. I had to mention literally the first sentence in order to finish that and you already knew the answer. Yes it is. There's one theme. OK for Parag's question. It is a great question, but I'll do credit to you if you need. This is too smart VS Nepal's novel A House for Mr. Biswas is set in the Indian community in Trinidad. There was a musical adaptation of it and there was a song that was composed for the musical adaptation called Bad Sign.

Good Sign this was composed by Monty Norman. Monty Norman's composition inspired the iconic theme and that was going to be the question of what what did inspire? As Vinit already said it way too early, It is the James Bond theme. The iconic James Bond theme is inspired by that. I guess at this point there's nothing much to do except play

the theme, so here goes. I was born with this unlucky sneeze and what is worse, I came into the world the wrong way round Pond. It's all agreed that I'm the reason why my father fell into the village bond and drowned. It's a great question Parag. The only problem is you can blame Aditya. He set it up in a way that I would know the answer. If he hadn't said audio clue it would have taken me maybe halfway through the question to get to it. Still.

Quite the flex, Vinit, Come on. I get very few of these. I really have to milk every oz. Of you sure, you sure you deserve it. And the lovely thing is that Parag mentioned and he set up this question to me. And this was in person very often when we receive questions, it's on e-mail or messages. But I met him and he was like, oh, I have a question for you and you should ask this in the

next episode. I was like, OK, great, hit me with it. And he plays the music and initiate took me like solid 10 seconds into the music to even get because it, it sounds so different from what the team is obviously. And it uses very classical Indian instruments. So very unexpected, but I loved it. And that is bad sign, good sign.

The song that we just played for you, which is from the musical adaptation of VS Naipaul's novel A House for Mr. Biswas, composed by Monty Norman and obviously inspired the James Bond theme. Great question, great question. Thank you. And please send in more questions. You know, you can also be my friend and give me questions. You know, I mean, I don't know why people don't do that. I would like to stump this fellow once in a while. Doesn't happen that often. You're not stumped.

I don't get, Oh, you're not even stumped. Oh, OK. By the way, I was at a party at a friend's place at the house party. And this guy looks at me and I don't know him. So I'm just like a bunch of strangers. And then you're only a couple of people at the party and I'm just mingling around meeting some old friends. And this guy looks at me and he's he's looking at me for a while. And then he's like, hey, are you Aditya? And I was like, yeah, I was like, do you do some stand up and stuff?

I was like, oh, is my stand up gotten popular? Because I've not read. Wow. There is no one in the stand up community. And it turns out he was just checking because he's like, are you the one who does? Are you questioning me? The podcast, that's how he knew me. And the stand up part was just because I think he had seen it on my profile at some point. So I managed to meet a lovely, lovely friend of the show, Bala. And Bala was at this podcast and he's like, Oh my God, I'm such a huge fan.

And and he apparently listens to the podcast on his commute every day to work. So yeah, it was lovely meeting somebody out of the blue who had heard of the podcast. You know what? If you ever see Vineet or me anywhere, please do do tell us. If you do listen to podcast, it's lovely too. Unless you're somebody who visits a laboratory quite frequently, the chances of running into me are not that high.

That is the other reason is also he's like I have visited both your profiles on Instagram and vid doesn't really post anything but you do so that's why I recognize you. No, because my Last Post I think was from 8:00 or 10 years ago. That's pretty cool of you, actually, yeah. I know because I just don't get Instagram. I am that grouchy old man now. I've admitted it that I have grown old, but I just don't get Instagram in the way that some of my younger colleagues and younger friends do.

So I find it difficult to engage over there. LinkedIn is something that I am on Facebook. I have a profile which is again dormant. As you can see, my social media game is extremely bad. I should probably start posting something, but then my question is what do I post? I don't want to post photographs of myself. That seems a little nasty. So I don't know share it or anybody who actually does that on Instagram, which is that I'm not comfortable doing it so.

Fair enough, fair enough. Well, I'm glad at least I had my pictures up there because I got to meet this person. So thank you. Thank you so much, Bala, for reaching out. And he did mention that he wanted to actually send us a question or two. So while this is a reminder, if you do have a question, you can send it to Vineet. Yes please. Well, if you feel like my profile on Instagram is better, please send it to me. I would not complain one bit.

And that's probably why people do send you questions. They must be looking at my profile and like Burger hasn't posted anything in 2015 years or 10 years something. Probably not a good person to send a question to. Yeah, but hey, if you send it on the e-mail, Vineet will definitely read it. So that's that's that's the out right there. So yeah, thank you to two of these friends of the podcast, both Parag and Bala. Yeah, shout out to Parag and Bala.

All right, Vineet, on to you. OK, moving from the literature from the mid 20th century to something that's quite older, the question goes as follows. Listen carefully. Its origins stretch back to Roman time.

It was first documented in the Libere Medicinalis, that is the book of medicine written by Quintus Serenus Simonicus, who lived in the 2nd century AD and was physician to the Roman emperor Cracalia. Simonicus was actually executed by Caracaria IN212AD as part of a broader purge, but before then he suggested using X or the term that he had coined as a cure or prevention against catching malaria, which he called Hermitageus. Londoners used to paint this

term in front of their doors to ward of the plague in the 17th century. What am I talking about? Sorry, was the name of the person again. Written by Quintus Serenus Simonicus in the 2nd century. AD, 2nd century AD and then the plague thing that you mentioned was? Yes, he coined this term as a cure to cure our prevention against catching malaria. Londoners used to paint this in front of their doors to ward off

the plague in the 17th century. So I guess this doesn't probably make a whole lot of sense, but welcome. No. Is it by any chance the etymology for welcome? No. OK. I'll give you my clue I can give you is that the etymology for this term is quite disputed as well. This is what we've actually have. But there are other theories for the etymology of this term, most of them going back much farther. Is this something similar to welcome?

Like is it something that you'll see on doors still or something like that? No. Well, you may see it in one or two specific places somewhere in the world. That's an unnecessary clue. So just forget I ever said that. It's not going to help you. Yeah, it doesn't help me. You don't see it in front of doors or anything anymore. OK, wow. OK again, I'm pretty stumped. I have no idea. OK, so another clue I can give you is the source of this trivia. Where did I get it from?

OK. I got it from a book written by JK Rowling. OK, the the book itself has the trivia in it, or you found the word in it and then you. No, I found the trivia in a book that was. To ward off malaria. Currently the Harry Potter novels because I would remember this piece of trivia if it was in the Harry Potter novels. Is it Harry Potter by any chance? Related to Harry Potter. Oh, OK, so one of those compendiums.

OK, something that's on one of the doors in on Gryffindor or Hogwarts or Slytherin, I don't know. Yeah, I have no clue. This is one of those books which is written I think Co written by JK Rowling and couple of others and this had specifically to deal with spells and chunks. Oh. Oh, so Alohomora, is it like you open the door or? Good guess that you're thinking of Alohomora, but it's not. For those non Harry Potter listeners of our podcast, Alohomora is the spell used to

open closed doors. Hence why this is a good guess, but unfortunately it's not. Because the other word was the one that used to lock the door, and I'm guessing that also probably is the might fit the logic. No, forgot what that word is. Wow. It's been a while since I read Harry Potter. I guess Wow spells. Which is not Aloha Mora. Something to banish, something to prevent, something to stop, defend. Oh, I don't know.

I don't know. Stupefier defender was to break it to kind of. Defender should break it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and the spell for locking a door was Cola Portos, by the way. Coloportis OK, All right. No, I I don't know. I don't know. OK, one last clue would be that this is possibly the first spell that Harry Potter is ever faced with. Oh, faced with I mean one of the iconic first spells is Wingardium Leviosa, but I don't know if that doesn't make any sense.

No, no. OK, the first spells, that's the one that is OK. So if that is the spell, what would be the actual term? Because here we're talking about real world. Oh, no way, Abracadabra. Is that where it comes from? Yes. Oh. So yeah, there as I mentioned, there is some disputed etymology. A lot of people think that abracadabra has its etymology from anamic or early much earlier languages.

But factually what we know is that it was first documented in a book called Liber Medicinalis, where Quintus Serenus Simonicas had coined it as, I don't know, a word that would somehow prevent from catching malaria. But then they did think it was because of bad air. So, you know, expelling good air by saying abracadabra would probably help you not catch malaria. It doesn't make any sense. Anyway. During the 17th century Londoners used to paint abracadabra on the doors to ward

off the plague. So it's like a 17th century English version of OS3 Kalana. OK, interesting. So it's abracadabra. You did get a pretty long O from me, so that that was an interesting question. I did have a long prolonged O. Oh, OK, cool, cool. I enjoyed that question. Well, I will move from that question since you did mention something to deal with epidemics. I'm going to talk about

something very similar. Wow, I love this was a very great segue in this country, and the country shall remain unnamed for now. In this country, X, in 1938, a national order mandated something to deal with the outbreak of cholera. It has now become iconic as a symbol of this country, uniquely to this country, if I may say so, actually something that people associate almost uniquely to this country and is also a massive tourist attraction.

What was this national order in 1938 in the country X that was mandating something to deal with an outbreak of cholera? Something to deal with an outbreak of cholera, and it's become a symbol of the country. Yes. Wow. OK, OK. Dealing with cholera, obviously you want clean water, but it's a symbol of the country and it's uniquely a symbol of the country. Cholera is a fibria, cholera bacteria that spreads through the water. It's highly contagious, causes a lot of diarrhoea.

And for some reason, a measure to stop it, a law to stop it, has become a law has become the symbol of the country. A little weird, but. A symbol as in like it's, it's a massive tourist attraction. If you see it, you're like, oh, this is that country X immediately. Oh OK, so the law basically caused the construction of something which is now a big symbol of the country, but it was constructed to back a cholera? I have absolutely no clue. OK, I'll give you a clue.

What if I told you the name of the Prime Minister who gave this order? Maybe that lead you to the country as well. Wait a second. Suddenly a thought occurred to me, but I don't know if it could be because I'm just thinking slightly laterally. Is it like Christ the Redeemer in Brazil or something? Oh, that's a great guess. But no, it's not. It's not. OK, so give me the clue then. The name of the Prime Minister who did this was Ionis Metaxas Ionis Ionis. There will be a Greek or Cypriot

name. It's Greek. It's Greek, yes. So the country in question is Greece I. Think Greece is one of the oldest countries with a lot of, you know, iconic iconology, to be honest. And I don't know White Houses. Hey, there we go. That's perfect. Yes. So, OK, so this is one of the reasons, but it is a big reason, white and blue, obviously colours of the Greek flag. It has been colours of the

Hellenic Republic for a while. It represents the sky and the ocean, which is which is basically what surrounds Greece, right? So it is meant to symbolize that. As it turns out, they made it mandatory for the the island houses to be painted in blue and white because there was also an outbreak of cholera happening and whitewashing their homes was supposed to help prevent or at least curb the outbreak. And I'll tell you why.

Because the whitewashed houses used to paint used to contain limestone, which is a powerful disinfectant. And there were no other disinfectant as commonly available at that point of time. So the citizens whitewashed their homes to help sanitize them and reduce the spread of

cholera. And it so happened that they were like white and then blue became the colours, which is what is iconic for a lot of the Greek islands, especially Santorini, that people very often flock to when they go to Greece. Very nice. So yeah, that that a little bit of a epidemic related trivia to counter yours. OK. Yeah, that's nice. That's nice. And it's a complete TI for me and frankly a very wild guess, which fortunately for me came to be true.

OK, OK, I'm going to give you a couple of names, right? And I'm not giving you a segue this time. You know what? I am switching it up. No sequence. I'm going to give you a list of names, and I want you to tell me what's the common number. And I also want your word that you will not find me and track me down and kill me. So the list of names goes as follows. Lil Wayne, the rapper, Prince the musician. Caligula, the Roman emperor.

Napoleon, the French Emperor, Kyodor Dostoevsky, the Russian writer, and Theodore Roosevelt. OK, there's one more name on the list, but that's going to be the clue that I would probably give you, so. And I'm supposed to find the. What's the common thread among these people? Wow, did they all have the letter O in their names? No, like Lil Wayne. You can pronounce it Wayne. OK, I'm kidding. All right. OK, Now, that was obviously a terrible guess.

Could you repeat the list again? So there was Lil Wayne, there was Roosevelt, there was Napoleon, there was Dostovsky. And. OK, so the list goes on as follows. Lil Wayne Prince, the multi talented musician Caligula, the deportion of Roman Emperor Fyodor Dostovsky, the very serious and depressing Russian writer, Napoleon, the not so vertically challenged French Emperor and Theodol Roosevelt who carried a big stake. Lil Wayne is on this list that is really confusing me.

Obviously this is a non exhaustive list, I wanted somebody who's quite modern. Oh, I have no idea what connects these people. No, wow, OK, no, nothing fits the bill because Lil Wayne is really throwing me off. I was trying to think of names and etymologies to the names and something like that. Lil Wayne is obviously. No, no, this is something common to these people themselves. It's nothing to do with the name. That's my clue to you. Common to these people

themselves. There can't be an award that connects all of them. There can't be AI. Can't imagine there are places named after Lil Wayne. No, there are not. At least I hope not. Yeah, it will be a strange thing. Sure, why not? Good for him. But. And you said there's one more name that you haven't mentioned. Yeah, there are a couple more names. There are two specific names which would probably give you a big clue, so those I'm keeping to the very end. But there are other names I can

give you. Hugo Weaving, who played the agent on The Matrix. Yeah, right. And Elrond on Lord of the Rings. He also belongs on the list. Danny Glover, famous actor who's too old for the shit. Lethal. Weapon. Yeah, Lethal Weapon, Danny Glover, he's also on the list. Lenin would also find himself on this list. So would Pope Pius the 9th. But that's no clue at all for you. None of these are clues. These are all people from all over the place.

OK, Susan. Boyle, the singer who came to attention during the Britain's Got Talent show. The one she had the very frumpy appearance and then she opened her mouth and people were entranced. On an iconic, iconic moment, and I still remember that. Oof, goosebumps. Wait, this, this is interesting because Susan Boyle was, I think, the first woman you mentioned. And somehow it might lead me to, I don't know, is it some sort of a physical condition that they all share? OK, closer.

Like I said, I have two more names, and those names will probably give you a big clue as to what this is. So Susan Boyle. I feel like I know Susan Boyle had something that she was dealing with on the medical front, so. She had multiple. OK, so but this would be very like thyroidism, hypothyroidism or something like that they got. A little more specific, do you want the last two names? OK, hit me. OK. Do you want them together or do you want me to give them one after the other?

So to give you a better chance, or at least be a better chance. Give me one at a time. OK, the first one I'm going to give you is Joan of Arc. Joan. Of Arc OK, second woman mentioned so far Joan of Arc? No. I have no clue as to what medical condition affected Joan of Arc. OK, so then the last person, and probably if you know the piece of trivia, this is probably the one that you will give it away, is Flojo Florence Griffith Joyner, the fastest woman ever

recorded. I am familiar with her. This is the back of my head. I feel like I know this because especially since you said Susan Boyle, it's just been like Danny Glover, so I feel like. I would probably ask you to focus on Joan of Arc and Flojo. Those are the ones that probably should point you most closely to the answer. Juno Park is somehow not ringing any bells. Frojo. Does Susan bond also? I feel like I read this when I first encountered her on social media. Say something.

It's not dyslexia. No I don't think this is dyslexia. Is it by any chance epilepsy? It is epilepsy, yes. OK. All right. These are all people who have suffered from epilepsy at some point in their lives. Lil Wayne does, Prince did and kept it a secret for the time. Caligula. Yes, Dostoevsky. Napoleon is also thought to have suffered from epilepsy. Danny Glover did for a period of his life. So did Theodore Roosevelt by the way. Not a fact that many people know.

And the reason I was pointing towards Joan of Arc and Flo Jo is because a lot of people suspect that Joan of Arc's visions were actually the effect of a certain type of epilepsy. And Flojo, or Florence Florence Griffith Joyner, developed epilepsy in her 30s and she famously died in her sleep after she suffered a grand Mal seizure while asleep and died from asphyxiation. Oh, that's, that's a shame, OK.

These are all very famous people who unfortunately did suffer from epilepsy, but not something that we may immediately know about. And I was very surprised when I heard about Napoleon and Svidor Dostevsky and Lil Wayne. That should have killed me in Caligula and Napoleon. I doubt hypothyroidism would be a diagnosis that would fit those people. Yeah, fair enough. OK, But great. I love that question. Oh, epilepsy connects these people.

I, I think it's just because of Susan Boyle, because I think I might have read it somewhere. Very cool, Very, very cool. That brings me to my question regarding another famous man. And this particular man has been featured on our podcast before. We are talking of PT Barnum, and PT Barnum had something called the Barnum's American Museum. It was very popular and there were exhibits of, you know, the those, those attractions of quote UN quote exotic people, I guess.

You can say freaks. No, that's what they called them. Let me clarify. That's what they were called during that period of time. Time. It's not like you're saying that people are freaks now. Yeah, quote UN quote freaks. You're right. That's how they were called and that's the name that was given to them at that point. And they were a massive attraction.

So various people like somebody who had dwarfism or this woman who had a beard, the bearded lady, the bearded lady, conjoined twins, all of these different individuals were were exhibited, as it were. So PC Parnam realized that people were lingering too long at his exhibits. What was his solution to this particular problem? What signage did he put up to deal with this problem of people just lingering around not letting others come in and and enjoy the well whatever the display?

So what? What did he put up? OK, this is again going to be something clever. Which I'm not going to be able to guess. Did he say that they would be charged for every minute they stand and watch? That would be that would be kind of PT Badam style. But no, it wasn't the case that he was going to charge them. He just put up a very simple signage to direct the crowds in a certain direction, to direct the crowds towards the exit actually.

OK. And what did you put up to direct the crowds towards the exit? Did he promise that there was going to be another attraction? Yeah, in a way, that's what it would seem like to an audience who was not familiar with what certain words meant. OK. It's pretty close to the answer I'll I'll give it to you if you don't get it in the next few tries. It's going to be some kind of word play. Knowing you, it's going to be some kind of word play. It's going to be really funny.

In this scenario, it's actually not a word plan. It's funny because of just what he did, but there's no word play in this is just happens to be something. Something this way. I think he would have put something this way or something. I don't know. I'm just. This is way too specific of a word choice that that's unfair to you.

It basically said this way to the egress and egress obviously means exit, but people not knowing that egress was another word for exit followed the signage thinking that there was another exhibit waiting for them in outside of that particular door and ended up outside. So he just put up signs and said this way to the egress. Very PT Barnum.

Yeah, exactly. I thought it was really funny so I had to include it. That is PT Barnum related trivia I we could actually do if you ever do like a super cut of are episodes of different topics. I think there could be just a PT Barnab episode we have done and. I think Theodore Roosevelt also appears quite often on our questions. Yeah. That he does. He does. He does Napoleon as well. Yeah. We could actually have like, just an episode dedicated to these people.

OK, that was nice. So moving on. From. Certain turn of the century individuals to another turn of the century individual Born in 1856. X was a lawyer who completed a PhD from Johns Hopkins. X was a prolific author and ended up as President of Princeton University.

X's book, History of the American People, was used as a source material for a movie, Y, which was the first movie to be screened in the White House. Y was almost single handedly responsible for the rapid rise of a fraternal social club first established in 1865. I want you to identify XY and Z.

1856, right? Born in 1856, X was a lawyer, completed a PhD from Johns Hopkins, ended up as a president of Princeton University. At one point, X's book History of the American People was used as one of the source materials for a movie. Why? Why was the first movie to be screened at the White House and why was also almost single handedly responsible for the rapid rise our fraternal social club first established in 1865?

I want you to identify XY and Z. You said lawyer Johns Hopkins implies America. Yeah, we're going to assume it is a politician because lawyers ended up following that path. 1856 until unless it's a precedent, it would be. 2. Out of my reach, so I'm going to guess something like 1856, probably in the early 20th century. Is it by any chance Teddy result? No, it can't be Teddy result. I wouldn't do that to you that

haven't. It's just to like Theodore Roosevelt coming in two questions on the same episode. Yeah, OK. He is one of my favorite people. I have lots of trivia about Teddy which I've not brought to the podcast, so there is. More to. Plumb through Teddy's life, but let's leave Teddy aside for the moment. OK, then I'd have to venture a guess. First movie. Actually the first movie. This is something I have I remember from Black Klansmen where he's pretending to be a

KKK member. This black guy's pretending to be. It's based of a true story and I think they speak of Birth of a Nation. In that side is Birth of a nation. I remember this was a yes. OK, so the movie Why is Birth of a Nation? OK. Which is a very famous movie, and it was the first movie to be screened at the White House. An unfortunate choice, but yeah. So then what was the Fraternal Social Club first established in 1865? What is Z then? Z 1865 Club that was established.

Fraternal Social Club established in 1865. And but wasn't this guy born in 1856? Yeah, the guy was born in 1856, but the movie was responsible for the rapid rise of a fraternal social club, which was. First of 1865. Sorry. Right, right, right. I missed that. I missed that. OK, so then Rapid Rise is the Ku Klux Klan. Yes. So it is the KKK. So you have both of the Nation incredibly racist movie and the Ku Klux Klan, which is currently having a lot of competition for

racism. So with the KKK. Wow. Oh boy, that's such an unfortunate piece of, well, I guess trivia in this case. So who's who's ex? That's actually stumping me completely. Am I right in assuming that it is a prominent politician, presumably a president? It is a prominent politician, yes. A president. Yes. Oh boy. OK, President 1856. I'd have to assume this is Garfield. No, not James Garfield, no. So think of somebody who's very

bookish. Early 20th century, apart from the Roosevelt, Hoover. Hoover was around that time, I think. No, actually Hoover was much later. 2 presidents actually. Oh, so not that far apart. OK, 2 presidents from somewhere in the in the vicinity, is it? There's there's that guy. I always think of him as associated to this Larry McKinley. No, no, no, McKinley was before. OK, McKinley was just prior to Roosevelt. OK, so it's after Roosevelt but before Hoover. Yes, I will give you one clue.

When I was a kid, we had these, you know, kind of Model UN things, right? That means, yeah. Part of that was learning the history of the United Nations and whatnot, right? So almost every history of the United Nations starts with the fact that the United Nations came into being, and the reason for it being structured the way it was was because of the failure of an organization that. League of Nations. Either League of Nations.

Exactly. This person was practically responsible for the League of Nations. Wilson Wilson. Woodrow Wilson. Woodrow Wilson. Yes. Yes, yes. OK, that I remember. Yes. So all right, all right. Putting it all together, Woodrow Wilson was a very learned and prolific author lawyer who was president of Princeton University prior to becoming president of the United States. His book The History of the American People, when it was released, was quite well received in many circles.

But it's like one of those Manoj Night Shyamalan movies where everything's fine until there's a twist at the end. So like, the book is completely fine, but until he kind of portrays the Ku Klux Klan as being the saviors of the people in the movie Birth of the Nation, which was a silent movie, by the way, it was a silent movie. And in that movie, there were kind of cue cards or text cards which popped up because of the silent movie, right?

So there's no dialogue. So to kind of propel the story along, they have these cue text cards, and many of them were practically taken verbatim from Woodrow Wilson's book A History of the American People. The movie was incredibly controversial even for its own time. Many states wanted to kind of ban it, but because there was this question about censorship, as in how much should be censored and what should be free speech and whatnot.

And it was only after Wilson himself screened it at the White House and gave it a review. The other state, all the states, were like, yeah, if it's good enough for our president, it should be good enough for us. And that movie was single handedly responsible for the rapid rise of the Ku Klux Klan. I would like to apologize to anybody who feels offended with my description of the Ku Klux Klan as a fraternal social club.

That was the description of the Ku Klux Klan when it was first established in 1865. But today I think it would be better to call it as white supremacist, far right terrorist organization or hate group. I don't say, I won't say to be fair to Woodrow Wilson, but apparently later on he did kind of express his horror at what the Ku Klux Klan was supposed to be and what it turned out to do and turned out to be. Bare minimum, at least, I guess. All right, pretty cool piece of

trivia. I would not have made the connection between Woodrow Wilson and both of our nation and Ku Klux Klan without all those hints. And so, yeah, great, great piece of history over there as trivia. And also that reminds you black Klansmen. Great film. That's my pop culture recommendation. I'll mention it again in our pop culture recommendation on Does that bring us to the end of the episode we need? Yes, yes, that is all the time we have for our regular questions.

So let's start winding up. So there's the question that I had asked at the beginning of today's episode. On 8th May 2006, the television station BBC News 24 wanted to interview technology journalist Guy Cuny about the Apple core versus Apple computers legal dispute. By mistake be the BBC let Karen Bowerman interview Guy Goma, a Congolese French business studio graduate from Brazzaville in the Republic of Congo, who'd come to the BBC for a job interview as a

data cleanser. The incident became one of the BB CS most widely reported bloopers, something which has become ingrained in our pop culture. Lot of memes have originated from it and during the interview itself. When interviewer Karen Bowerman introduced the person as Internet expert Guy CUNY, Goma realized that there had been a misunderstanding and was visibly

shocked. Aware that he was on via live television and not wishing to make a scene, Goma attempted to answer the questions about Apple Cos versus Apple computers and it's ramifications. My question to you is this iconic pop culture phenomenon which happened at that blooper, which happened at that point of time was all because of this legal case of Apple Cops versus Apple computers. Simple question, who owned Apple Cops, which was in a legal

battle with Apple computers? Interesting, I do remember this interview. It is quite hilarious. You can find it on YouTube. It is. It is very hilarious. Don't think this is part of the whole Steve Jobs exit from Apple and coming come back. I don't think this is in that. No, no, this is more of a copyright thing. They wanted to use the name Apple. Right. No, I don't think it's any tech mogul for from whatever I know. So somebody outside of tech, but I have no clue who.

Give me a hint. The hint would be that Apple have you, I don't know. I mean, like you're an Apple user, right? We are like direct opposite. I'm a PC guy. You're an Apple guy, right? So on your Mac, you may have seen a sound file called Sosumi. SOSUMI. Apparently, I think the name slightly changed in the newer versions. But at least for years, almost a couple of decades, there was a chime, which is part of the Apple Mac thing called Sosumi SOSUMI. The original name for that was

supposed to be chime. But the Apple head honchos did not want the name anywhere near music, any kind of name or term related to music being used in the Mac software. So instead they put in because they didn't know if it would come under the copyright problem or the copyright agreement. So they quite cheekily of one particular developer used the name SOSUMI, so sue me as the name. And that was there on many Macs for I think a couple of decades until it's it was changed quite recently.

It's in the music industry. So with that clue, do you think you can crack it? OK, Music industry and it is the UK, the BBC and knowing you beneath, I'm just going to say The Beatles. Yes, it is The Beatles. So Apple Cops was one of the holding companies of The Beatles, including their catalogue and whatnot. And then when Apple Computers came up, there was a copyright battle between the two for the name Apple. It was finally settled after many decades of multiple legal

battles. And there was a very cheeky reference to that in many Macs with the chime that was called Sosumi. None of that. That's kind of funny. I see it, I see it, I see the humor in that. But. I knew you would just enjoy, you know, the moment, the ride off the bat. How can you not? So sue me, of course you would enjoy that. Yeah. OK, that brings us to the pop culture recommendations. And I since I did mention Spike Lee, I'm gonna mention a couple of his films that I really

enjoy. Black Landsman was, I think his latest film that I've seen, but before that I had also, Oh no, wait, I think I also saw the the five bloods, which is criminally underrated, I felt, and also I think got an Oscar snub. If I'm not wrong, deserve better. I have to mention do the right thing inside man. Again, I I doesn't get a lot of cred. I think it's a fun film, a bank heist film as bank heist films go. And Malcolm X, these are the few

that I'll mention. So that's Black Clansmen, the Five Bloods, Inside Man, Malcolm X. And of course, do the right thing. Nice, nice. So my recommendation for this week would be a movie I caught on OTT, which I'm told did not do well and in the theaters, and I'm going to be surprised it did not. It's called Khel Khel Me starring Akshay Kumar. It's been a long time since I've seen Akshay Kumar at the top of his game.

To be honest, I've seen a lot of his inspirational movies and he for some reason falls short on all of them. He's back to being a funny guy with very good comic timing in Kale Kalebay. And I have to also mention that Kale Kalebay is a remake of a movie called Perfect Strangers and it's a 2016 Italian movie and it's been remade I don't know how many times, at least in excess of 20, with it having been remade twice in India prior to this.

So one of those I have which I have watched is a movie called 12th Man. It's available on Disney Hotstar for anyone to watch. It is a slight twist on Perfect Strangers because while that's more of a relationship drama kind of story, the same conceit or the same concept is used for a murder mystery in 12th Man. Which is.

Directed by Jitu Joseph, who you may have heard of and you may not have heard of, but Jitu Joseph is the man who wrote and directed the first Drishyam, the original Drishyam, so you know you're in good hands. So that's a movie that you might want to catch on Hotstar. Disney hotshot. OK, interesting that I will randomly plug a movie that I made in college. It was called 1 Beer down to the short film for the short film competition.

And the central conceit was not exactly the same, but kind of similar because I think in this movie The idea is that you have to share your phone calls and messages with your partners. Yes, yes. The theme for our film was that the group of friends and you're not allowed to use your phone except for one phone call and I think everybody in the group also fine. I've forgotten what the movie. Would be made. I think that's called going to

jail for most people. Except that you were these were guys who had who were spending their last day together and the next day was their last day in college. So this is the last night. And so they're like, we are going to spend it with each other, but we are disallowed 1 phone call it. So I don't know why where the team we just took me back to that. Don't watch it. Honestly, this is not a. It's a non recommendation if anything.

By the way, if if somebody did not want to watch it, where would they not be able to watch it? I think you should not be watching it on YouTube. That's that's where I remember last not watching it. Yeah. So check check out everything else except that. Just an additional piece of trivia, Perfect Strangers has been recognized as the most remade film according to the Guinness Book of World Records. Wow. Yes, so, and this is the best part, there's an English language stage version.

No, OK. Yeah, there's an English language stage version which is going to star Neil Patrick Harris, Jane Krakowski, Debra Messing, Constance Wu, among many others. And I really love the title of the stage version. It's called Shit Meet Fan. Nice, I like that. I like that. Very cool. So that's all for this episode. Thank you for listening in. We hope you enjoyed the show and learned something new. If you liked what you heard, please subscribe to our podcast and leave us a review on your

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So if any of our friends of the podcast live in Mumbai, I would suggest going for this quiz. It's called QED and it is meant for medical professionals but also to open to other people. They already already did the qualifying rounds last weekend. I was there alone and I sorely felt Vineeth's lag there because I have 0 medical knowledge as I found out last weekend. But that was just so meant for you.

I felt I told so many people about the podcast and I was like, but my Co host would be great at this except he doesn't live here. So yeah. In any case, it is open to people to come. Just watch. And the finals are happening next Sunday. It's happening in Mumbai, in Bandra, in Saint Joe's Auditorium. So if you're around in Mumbai next Sunday, you should go check it out. I'll be there and come say hi if you do come for the quiz. And at that note, see you guys next week. Bye.

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