This week's interview dives deep into the state of biometrics with two Forrester Research analysts! This discussion compares and contrasts regional approaches to biometrics; examine the security challenges and benefits of their implementation; and reveal how biometrics holds the keys to a range of engagement models of the future. Andras Cser dives into the technical end of things and explains how biometrics can be resilient to attack. We can't replace our fingerprints or faces, but as Andras exp...
Nov 19, 2024•1 hr 11 min
In this week's interview, Melinda Marks' joins us to discuss her latest research. Her recent report Modernizing Application Security to Scale for Cloud-Native Development delves into many aspects and trends affecting AppSec as it matures, particularly in cloud-first organizations. We also discuss the fuzzy line between "cloud-native" AppSec and everything else that refuses to disappear, particularly for organizations that weren't born cloud-native and still have legacy workloads to worry about. ...
Nov 12, 2024•1 hr 9 min
After spending a decade working for appsec vendors, Grant McKracken wanted to give something back. He saw a gap in the market for free or low-cost services for smaller organizations that have real appsec needs, but not a lot of means to pay for it. He founded DarkHorse, who offers VDPs and bug bounties to organizations of all sizes for free, or for as low of cost as possible. While not a non-profit, the company's goal is to make these services as cheap as possible to increase accessibility for s...
Nov 05, 2024•1 hr 6 min
Better TLS implementations with Rust, fuzzing, and managing certs, appsec lessons from the everlasting transition to IPv6, LLMs for finding vulns (and whether fuzzing is better), and more! Also check out this presentation from BSides Knoxville that we talked about briefly, https://youtu.be/DLn7Noex_fc?feature=shared Generative AI has been the talk of the technology industry for the past 18+ months. Companies are seeing its value, so generative AI budgets are growing. With more and more AI agents...
Oct 29, 2024•1 hr 23 min
Building cloud native apps doesn't mean you're immune to dealing with legacy systems. Cloud services have changed significantly over the last decade, both in the security controls available to them and the sheer volume of services that CSPs provide. Scott Piper shares some history of cloud security, the benefits of account separation, and how ratcheting security helps orgs stay on a paved path. Segment resources: https://www.wiz.io/blog/a-security-community-success-story-of-mitigating-a-misconfi...
Oct 21, 2024•1 hr 17 min
Zed Attack Proxy has been a crucial web app testing tool for decades. It's also had a struggle throughout 2024 to obtain funding that would enable the tool to add more features while remaining true to its open source history. Simon Bennetts, founder of ZAP, and Ori Bendet from Checkmarx update us on that journey, share some exploration of LLM fuzzing that ZAP has been working on, and what the future looks like for this well-loved project. Segment Resources: https://www.zaproxy.org/blog/2024-09-2...
Oct 08, 2024•1 hr 13 min
More remote car control via web interfaces, an RCE in CUPS, Microsoft reduces attack surface, migrating to memory safety, dealing with dependency confusion, getting rid of password strength calculators, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-301
Oct 02, 2024•46 min
APIs are essential to modern application architectures, driving rapid development, seamless integration, and improved user experiences. However, their widespread use has made them prime targets for attackers, especially those deploying sophisticated bots. When these bots exploit business logic, they can cause considerable financial and reputational damage. In this discussion, David Holmes offers insights into the latest trends in API and bot attacks and provides strategies to defend against thes...
Sep 24, 2024•1 hr 8 min
When a conference positioned as a day of security for developers has to be canceled due to lack of interest from developers, it's important to understand why there was so little interest and why appsec should reconsider its approach to awareness. Dustin Lehr discusses how appsec can better engage and better deliver security concepts in a way that makes developers not only feel like their time is well used, but that the content appeals to them. Segment Resources: - The Security Champion Program S...
Sep 17, 2024•1 hr 2 min
Considerations in paying down tech debt, make Rust work on bare metal, ECDSA side-channel in Yubikeys, trade-offs in deploying SSO quickly, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-298
Sep 10, 2024•56 min
Check out this interview from the ASW Vault, hand picked by main host Mike Shema! This segment was originally published on May 9, 2023. What does software resilience mean? Why is status quo application security unfit for the modern era of software? How can we move from security theater to security chaos engineering? This segment answers these questions and more. Segment Resources: Book -- https://securitychaoseng.com Blog -- https://kellyshortridge.com/blog/posts/ Show Notes: https://securitywee...
Sep 02, 2024•38 min
IoT devices are notorious for weak designs, insecure implementations, and a lifecycle that mostly ignores patching. We look at external factors that might lead to change, like the FCC's cybersecurity labeling for IoT. We explore the constraints that often influence poor security on these devices, whether those constraints are as consequential given modern appsec practices, and what the opportunities are to make these devices more secure for everyone. Segment resources: https://www.fcc.gov/docume...
Aug 27, 2024•1 hr 4 min
This week, Jeff Pollard and Allie Mellen join us to discuss the fallout and lessons learned from the CrowdStrike fiasco. They explore the reasons behind running in the kernel, the challenges of software quality, and the distinction between a security incident and an IT incident. They also touch on the need to reduce the attack surface and the importance of clear definitions in the cybersecurity industry. The conversation explores the need for a product security revolution and the importance of t...
Aug 20, 2024•1 hr 22 min
Startups and small orgs don't have the luxury of massive budgets and large teams. How do you choose an appsec approach that complements a startup's needs while keeping it secure. Kalyani Pawar shares her experience at different ends of an appsec maturity spectrum. In complex software ecosystems, individual application risks are compounded. When it comes to mitigating supply chain risk, identifying backdoors or unintended vulnerabilities that can be exploited in your environment is just as critic...
Aug 13, 2024•1 hr 9 min
Even though Security Champions programs look very different across organizations and maturity levels, they share core principles for becoming successful. Marisa shares her experience in building these programs to foster a positive security culture within companies. She explains the incentives and rewards that lead to more engagement from champions and the benefits that come from so many people being engaged with security. Segment Resources: OWASP Security Champions Guide - Get Involved! - https:...
Aug 06, 2024•1 hr 10 min
Modern appsec isn't modern because security tools got shifted in one direction or another, or because teams are finding and fixing more vulns. It's modern because appsec is meeting developer needs and supporting the business. Paul Davis talks about how AI is (and isn't) changing appsec, the KPIs that reflect outcomes rather than being busy, and the importance of communication for security teams. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securitywee...
Jul 30, 2024•45 min
Generative AI has produced impressive chatbots and content generation, but however fun or impressive those might be, they don't always translate to value for appsec. Allie brings some realistic expectations to how genAI is used by attackers and can be useful to defenders. Segment resources: https://www.forrester.com/blogs/generative-ai-will-not-fulfill-your-autonomous-soc-hopes-or-even-your-demo-dreams/ https://www.forrester.com/blogs/top-5-things-you-need-to-know-about-how-generative-ai-is-used...
Jul 23, 2024•1 hr 5 min
How can LLMs be valuable to developers as an assistant in finding and fixing insecure code? There are a lot of implications in trusting AI or LLMs to not only find vulns, but in producing code that fixes an underlying problem without changing an app's intended behavior. Stuart McClure explains how combining LLMs with agents and RAGs helps make AI-influenced tools more effective and useful in the context that developers need -- writing secure code. Cloudflare's 2024 appsec report, reasoning about...
Jul 16, 2024•1 hr 9 min
Sandy Carielli and Janet Worthington, authors of the State Of Application Security 2024 report, join us to discuss their findings on trends this year! Old vulns, more bots, and more targeted supply chain attacks -- we should be better at this by now. We talk about where secure design fits into all this why appsec needs to accelerate to ludicrous speed. Segment resources https://www.forrester.com/blogs/ludicrous-speed-because-light-speed-is-too-slow-to-secure-your-apps/ They're also conducting a ...
Jul 09, 2024•1 hr 13 min
OAuth 2.0 is more than just a single spec and it's used to protect more than just APIs. We talk about challenges in maintaining a spec over a decade of changing technologies and new threat models. Not only can OAuth be challenging to secure by default, but it's not even always inter-operable. Segment Resources: https://oauth.net/2.1 https://oauth.net/specs/ https://oauth2simplified.com/ https://oauth.net/2/dpop/ https://oauth.net/2/oauth-best-practice/ https://oauth.net/fapi/ https://developer.m...
Jun 25, 2024•1 hr 1 min
Check out this interview from the ASW Vault, hand picked by main host Mike Shema! This segment was originally published on April 4, 2023. Following on from her successful title "Container Security", Liz has recently authored "Learning eBPF", published by O'Reilly. eBPF is a revolutionary kernel technology that is enabling a whole new generation of infrastructure tools for networking, observability, and security. Let's explore eBPF and understand its value for security, and how it's used to secur...
Jun 18, 2024•37 min
Looking at use cases and abuse cases of Microsoft's Recall feature, examples of hacking web APIs, CISA's secure design pledge, what we look for in CVEs, a nod to PHP's history, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-288
Jun 11, 2024•39 min
Open source has been a part of the software supply chain for decades, yet many projects and their maintainers remain undersupported by the companies that consume them. The security responsibilities for project owners has increased not only in dealing with security disclosures, but in maintaining secure processes backed by strong authentication and trust. Segment Resources: https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/news/lessons-xz-utils-achieving-more-sustainable-open-source-ecosystem https://www.cisa.gov...
Jun 04, 2024•1 hr 12 min
With hundreds or thousands of SaaS apps to secure with no traditional perimeter, Identity becomes the focal point for SaaS Security in the modern enterprise. Yet with Shadow IT, now recast as Business-Led IT, quickly becoming normal practice, it’s more complicated than trying to centralize all identities with an Identity Provider (IdP) for Single Sign-On (SSO). So the question becomes, “How do you enable the business while still providing security oversight and governance?” This segment is spons...
May 28, 2024•31 min
Check out this interview from the ASW Vault, hand picked by main host Mike Shema! This segment was originally published on April 18, 2023. We talk with Ben about the rewards, hazards, and fun of bug bounty programs. Then we find out different ways to build successful and welcoming communities. Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/vault-asw-9
May 28, 2024•36 min
Secure coding education should be more than a list of issues or repeating generic advice. Liran Tal explains his approach to teaching developers through examples that start with exploiting known vulns and end with discussions on possible fixes. Not only does this create a more engaging experience, but it also relies on code that looks familiar to developers rather than contrived or overly simplistic examples. Segment resources: https://github.com/lirantal https://cheatsheetseries.owasp.org/cheat...
May 21, 2024•1 hr 9 min
Everyone is interested in generative AIs and LLMs, and everyone is looking for use cases and apps to apply them to. Just as the early days of the web inspired the original OWASP Top 10 over 20 years ago, the experimentation and adoption of LLMs has inspired a Top 10 list of their own. Sandy Dunn talks about why the list looks so familiar in many ways -- after all, LLMs are still software. But the list captures some new concepts that anyone looking to use LLMs or generative AIs should be aware of...
May 14, 2024•1 hr 7 min
A lot of AI security has nothing to do with AI -- things like data privacy, access controls, and identity are concerns for any new software and in many cases AI concerns look more like old-school API concerns. But...there are still important aspects to AI safety and security, from prompt injection to jailbreaking to authenticity. Caleb Sima explains why it's important to understand the different types of AI and the practical tasks necessary to secure how it's used. Segment resources: https://cal...
May 07, 2024•1 hr 5 min
Companies deploy tools (usually lots of tools) to address different threats to supply chain security. Melinda Marks shares some of the chaos those companies still face when trying to prioritize investments, measure risk, and scale their solutions to keep pace with their development. Not only are companies still figuring out supply chain, but now they're bracing for the coming of genAI and how that will just further highlight the current struggles they're having with data security and data privac...
Apr 30, 2024•1 hr 20 min
How can open source projects find a funding model that works for them? What are the implications with different sources of funding? Simon Bennetts talks about his stewardship of Zed Attack Proxy and its journey from OWASP to OpenSSF to an Open Source Fellowship with Crash Override. Mark Curphy adds how his experience with OWASP and the appsec community motivated him to create Crash Override and help projects like ZAP gain the support they deserve. Segment resources: https://crashoverride.com/blo...
Apr 23, 2024•1 hr 18 min