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the new LA phenomenon

Oct 29, 202046 min
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The Saddle Ranch has morphed from a tacky Western-themed bar in LA that people rarely went to, to a TikToker, YouTuber, and paparazzi hot spot. Emma talks about why she kept going back (and how it wasn't good for her), getting filmed through an entire dinner, and chats about the paparazzi culture in LA. Plus, what's the most romantic thing someone's ever done for Emma? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hey guys, welcome back to Anything Goes. I hope you all are having an amazing week. I decided to record spontaneously today because I had an idea for something that I wanted to talk about and to be honest I've been... blank in my brain for the past few weeks just actually no longer than that the past few months because to be completely honest with you guys my life has been kind of a mess

Anxiety wise, like my anxiety has been pretty bad. But besides that, everything's going really well, which means that I don't have drama to talk about. You know what I mean? I'm not learning any life lessons. Nobody's burning me. So.

it's not like I can come on here and be like, don't trust anyone ever. Like I, that's, I feel like what I've been doing in the beginning of this podcast and like throughout, I've just been spewing out the life lessons that I've been learning, but I feel like I haven't really been learning much. you

Six opinionated Brits with very different views on immigration experience parts of refugee routes to Britain. We won't get that in South Yorkshire. Will the ordeal change their minds? Oh my God, what is this? Syria is scary. I don't know what we're going to do. Horrible. A new series. Go back to where you came from on Channel 4. Stream now. Except for that I did recently figure out the importance of communication, even when it seems.

unnecessary and actually you know what I'm just gonna get dig into this real quick before we get into our main topic because like I used to be somebody that would hold on to little things that bugged me because I didn't want to create an issue like one little thing would bug me and I wouldn't bring it up because I was like you know what I want to seem unbothered I want to seem chill right but recently I've been

really trying to like keep everything all out on the table all the time with everybody parents friends etc if something's bugging me I now refuse to hold on to it and let it like grow resentment in my chest. I refuse. And the reason for that is I don't want drama. I don't want.

to have resentment in my heart towards people so as hard as it is I've been really making it a priority to like communicate anything that I don't fuck with anything that makes me uncomfortable anything that bugs me instead of holding on to it and growing this unnecessary resentment I just bring that shit up now and let me tell you it's changed my life and it's changed my relationships I feel like

My relationships with people have been so consistently good because of that. I don't let anything go unnoticed anymore. it's uncomfortable sometimes but it's changed my life and my relationships truly having that like not only does it make my relationships with people stronger but it also makes me feel good. Like when you get something off your chest, even if it's so small, like even if somebody just...

did something a little bit off, or even if you think somebody's doing something behind your back, or you think that somebody's mad at you, even if they're not like being like, Hey, are you mad at me? Like, did I do something wrong? Even if it's irrational and stupid.

Bringing it up when it's bugging you literally solves every problem. And I can guarantee that unless somebody's up to no good, they're usually going to be like, no, you're totally good. Like, why? And then you just be like, oh, I don't know. I was just. fucking paranoid about nothing like thanks for you know humoring me or whatever like thanks for like letting me get that off my chest and then you move on I used to hold on to shit for

my entire relationship. I could be friends with somebody for two years and have something that they did that bugged me and never bring it up. And it would bug me for the whole two year friendship. but now I'm like no we're 2020 we are quitting on that and so that's something that I learned uh this past week but like I just really realized that that's something I've been doing more recently that I hadn't done before because I

was talking about it to my parents and I was like you know I'm just like done with like hiding my feelings whatever and they were like Emma that's huge growth like you have never been like that prior in your life and I was like word so I don't know something to think about Having an open communication and being honest with the people in your life feels really fucking good. So try that out. But that's not what we're talking about today. We're talking about.

A new LA phenomenon, phenomena, whatever that word is. Um, I asked you guys on the AG podcast, Twitter. if you knew what this thing was and a lot of you guys didn't know what it was but i think that you guys do you just don't know that you know what it is okay today we're going to be talking about saddle ranch let me give you a little background Saddle Ranch is a tacky Western style bar restaurant located in Los Angeles, California on the Sunset Strip, right in the heart of West Hollywood.

It is the tackiest restaurant you could possibly imagine. There is a bowl that you can ride in there. whole thing looks like a fucking saloon that you would see in some sort of pirate movie or something. It's just like, it's so beyond tacky that it's unreal. But... recently it started to get this crazy amount of attention from influencers and celebrities alike and it never had in the past like it was always fun and I know like you know

People always went there here and there. I know there was a decent chunk of YouTubers that used to go there a few times a week just because it was fun and not a lot of people. were there and it was easy to get in because it was just like it wasn't super exclusive or weird it was just like easy to go because it was like the tacky place so it wasn't like going to some sort of

super expensive LA bougie bar. It was like the complete opposite. And I think that's why it was appealing to some YouTubers or whatever, because it was like, okay, this is like a chill place that we can go and have like a similar experience except. there's not all the bougie dumb shit involved and so that's why it was popular and then quarantine hit and then you know whatever but since it reopened it has

turned into something completely different. If you've ever watched a Hollywood Fix interview, Hollywood Fix is basically the paparazzi. for YouTubers, TikTokers, anybody, but normally YouTubers and TikTokers. It's a YouTube channel. You can go watch them. They're very entertaining. I watch them all the time, unfortunately.

and they just basically the hollywood fix dude it's just one dude and he just finds people and he interviews them on the spot paparazzi vibes whatever if you've watched any hollywood fix interview

I can guarantee it was probably one outside of Saddle Ranch. This dude waits outside of Saddle Ranch. His name is Fletcher, the paparazzi guy. Everybody knows him. It's this weird thing. Like, there's this weird... like culture and like weird like it's so bizarre to me like everybody knows the hollywood fix dude and that's such a new thing like i doubt 10 years ago celebrities

Like Brad Pitt would like know the first name of the paparazzi that harasses him all the time. You know what I mean? But now that we're in this weird influencer. culture phase of life it's crazy how like everybody's very normal i think and so everything's so on a personal level yet it it has the impact or maybe even the views of say like a paparazzi Brad Pitt interview from like a while ago it might actually get the same amount of views which is mind-boggling

But you know what I'm saying. I don't know if that's true, but I feel like that actually might be true. Back to Saddle Ranch. Saddle Ranch is basically the influencer capital of Los Angeles right now. every single night of the week, every single TikToker that you see on your For You page is at Saddle Ranch, including a lot of YouTubers too. There's a lot of YouTubers there, TikTokers. I even saw Megan Fox and fucking Machine Gun Kelly there once.

is going to saddle ranch and it's the craziest thing ever and the way that it's laid out is that there's This big outdoor seating area that is fully visible from the street. So anybody can kind of like look in to like what's going on at Saddle Ranch at any given evening. It's like a fucking zoo. And it's like.

Everybody who's seated at the tables at Saddle Ranch are the zoo animals and everybody outside can look in and see who they can find. And you can only imagine the field day that the paparazzi are having, you know. they're zooming in on people eating this has happened to me like they're you know they get infinite content of seeing like you know tiktokers interact with each other and youtubers interact with the whatever and it's like a fucking zoo okay and

I remember when this first became a thing, I was like, this is so kind of dumb. Like, this is dumb. And that's truly what I thought. I was like, this is so dumb. Like I don't get the point of it. Like it seems like just an anxiety fest for me. Everybody's being filmed hanging out and everybody that you know is there and there's a decent chance that you're going to see. some sort of fucking ex-best friend or some sort of fucking...

ex-boyfriend there, ex-girlfriend, whatever the fuck. There's a very good chance you're gonna see someone like that while you're there. And there's a decent chance that some sort of drama is gonna ensue based on whether or not you go over and say hi to them or not. That seems like a nightmare to me. i'm out i don't want to be a part of this well i got sucked into it for a few weeks my friends and i got very bored and there was something funny and appealing about the idea

of just going and seeing what it's all about. Because every night we just kept seeing everybody who lives around us that we relatively know going to the same restaurant. And it was like, And everybody was there at the same time. And it was like, it became the thing to do here. And nothing else is open. And they have a nice outdoor seating area that's like, you know.

regulated it just seemed like okay well there's no harm in this like let's just do it let's just go we're bored let's just go and see what we see see what drama ensues like whatever like let's just see what happens so I probably went to Saddle Ranch 10 times over the course of a few weeks. And I became addicted to it. Like I wanted to go every night. And here's why. Every night there was some new.

There was some new person that walks in that was like, you know, oh my God, like I can't believe they're here. And it became. like a literal nighttime activity that I looked forward to where it was like, who am I going to see? And it was almost like going to saddle ranch was like scratching an itch in my armpit. Like, you know, when you just have like a really bad itch.

and it like you know that if you itch it it's just gonna make it worse but like you want to itch it that's what going to saddle ranch was for my friends and i we we hated it we hated the fucking stigma around it we hated the drama that came with it But we kept going because there was something so satisfying about it. And I mean, one night sticks out to me in particular. It was this night where we all went and.

We were sitting at this table. This was the thing that set me over the edge. We all were sitting at a table and we were eating and the entire dinner. The entire hour and a half, two hours that we were there, you know, we were filmed the whole time. The entire time through the little window thing, the little like divider.

from the outside street into the inside it's see-through and we were being filmed the whole time and that was the thing that like sent me over the edge I was like I can't do this anymore because then I had to like go home And then I had to go to bed and wake up the next morning and watch the dinner that I had had the night before. And I hated it. And I was like, what if I looked bad? What if like I had a booger in my nose?

what if, what if, what if, what if I did something bad on accident? Like what if I fucking pitched, picked a wedgie?

or something like what if i like what if they accidentally caught me slapping my friend in the face on camera i didn't do that but you know what i mean like what what did they catch like even though i know it's like i know i'm being filmed so i'm like and also I'm not doing anything fucking weird anyway but like it's just it makes you think right like what's going on that was what sent me over the edge and so I stopped going and once I stopped going I was kind of able to reflect

on my time at saddle ranch and just see the immaturity that i was it was an immature thing for me to do and i'll explain why In the moment, it seemed fun and harmless, but looking back, it like was very immature of me. And here's why. Every time I would go, I would go home with this crippling feeling of anxiety.

number one because you know the paparazzi situation was crazy number two because there was a bunch of people that I like half know not like fully know them on a personal level but like people that I've dappled with you know People that I've hung out with a few times, people that I've like talked to for a little bit, like shit like that. And that's all there. And you don't know who's going to show up. But like the fact that those people were around me.

I wouldn't anticipate them being there, but I also deep down knew that that was a possibility. And yet I would choose. To go there multiple times a week, knowing that I was going to see people that I would be uncomfortable around. Yet I chose to do that because there was something exciting about it. But then I would be anxious for the next 48 hours until.

We would just go again and it would all start over again. I would say that a decent part of my anxiety came from me going to Saddle Ranch religiously and seeing people that I didn't want to see. And that I had no reason to see. I have no reason to be seeing these people. It's not necessary. They're not in my life anymore. I don't know these people very well. I don't want to have a weird, awkward conversation with someone that like.

I've hung out with four times a year ago. Like I don't want to have those conversations yet. I was making the conscious decision to go to Saddle Ranch with my friends instead of just hanging out and ordering food into my fucking house. Instead of doing that, we're like, no, let's go to this restaurant that every TikToker goes to.

And every fucking influencer goes to, let's do that instead. Why? When I knew that that would make me uncomfortable, yet I was doing it anyway because it was like... scratching an itch for some reason there's something so satisfying and fun about it even though it was bad for me and even though it would harm me and I knew that and I wonder if all the other you know kids that are going that are

I wonder if they're all thinking the same thing like this sucks but yet I can't not go because there's something so fun about it and I think it's also like because it's like a fucking lunch room it's like you know everybody and it's fun to like see everybody There's something fun about that. You know what I mean? Knowing that there's going to be 20 people that you know there. There's something interesting about it. And even inviting, I'd argue.

you know I don't know it's just I stopped I'm glad I stopped going it was harming me literally in my head like it was starting to make me feel like The internet was my real life because my one interaction with people outside of my two friends being at this restaurant where I'd see people from, you know, however many feet away, like. Me looking around the room at Saddle Ranch and seeing my entire Instagram Explore page for like multiple weeks on end ruined my mental health. It ruined me.

So I'm glad that I stopped. But I wonder when Saddle Ranch will die. Like, is this going to die and everybody's going to stop going? Or is this just going to be something that, you know, we all waste our time with forever? And that's...

The question I have. I don't plan on going again anytime soon. But then again, I haven't been in probably a month or two. Maybe a month. Maybe three weeks. I don't know. I haven't been in a while. I don't plan on going anytime soon. I really... think that it was super toxic for me and it was so it just wasn't like it was so it was

not a positive thing and I don't regret going because it was like kind of funny and there was like some funny memories from it and like I think my friends and I had fun with it for a few weeks until it just got we all were just anxious messes from it And so we stopped and I've been a lot happier since. But it's just interesting how everyone congregates to like one area and like.

90% of the people sitting in the saddle ranch fucking at the saddle ranch tables, 90% of them, the ones that all know each other from social media and shit, all hate each other. I hate talking about it like this because it's like, it's just such a weird community and I don't like talking about it as a whole because it's like just seems so dumb right but at the same time like

It is this weird LA community of like influencer, TikToker, YouTubers that like, and it's so interesting how everybody knows each other. And like, even when they don't. seem like they know each other because nobody like follows each other blah blah blah everyone knows each other and it's so bizarre to me and I will never get over it and that's why the whole saddle ranch thing is just even more toxic because it's just like

everybody knows each other but half the time some people don't even want to admit it and it's just it's just not it's very very it's a very avoidable thing that like you could have a lot of fun without someone said is saddle wrench full every night or is there's a Or is there a specific day in which everyone goes? Literally everyone goes every day. Like you can go any day and you're going to see everyone.

And like now it's hard to get in. It used to be something where you could just get, it was so not exclusive at all. Now you have to wait in like a five hour line to get in unless you have a reservation or you have some sort of like, or you know someone or something. And it's like.

Y'all, are we, this is a fucking, there is a mechanical bull inside and it looks like something from the wild, wild west. Why are we waiting in line for this? Although they do have the most amazing tater tots. So like I would wait for those.

but oh people are now talking about boa okay so somebody said who wins the saddle ranch or boa who wins the battle saddle ranch or boa so let me tell you about boa i don't go to boa boa is like the other place so there's two saddle ranch is like the light-hearted fun place that everyone goes To like see everybody that they don't like and to get paparazzi. That's Saddle Ranch. Boa is like the exact same thing except it's a steakhouse. It's down the street. It's close. It's a steakhouse.

where you have a little bit more privacy but it's very overpriced and the food is like fine but it's like not that great like it's good but it's like okay you could definitely go somewhere else where you're not going to get

harassed by the Hollywood fix outside like you know what I mean it's it's you're not I don't think people are going there because they like the food that's what I'm saying and it's the same thing with Saddle Ranch they're going for the drama you don't go to Saddle Ranch or BOA To like eat the food when you're on social media. I'm being straight up about it. You just don't. You're going for either the drama and to see people you know and to see what's going on and to see like.

you know to kind of like experience the the fucking culture of it or you're going to get paparazzi and there's no in between. Personally, I don't like getting paparazzi. I'm more there for like the drama of it all, just to like see kind of what's going on. And it's just like fun to people watch. It's for me, it's fun to people watch. I don't know if that's what everybody else is doing for it. I doubt it.

I think for everybody else, it's more of a lunchroom situation. I agree with that, but I tend to kind of keep to myself when I'm at Saddle Ranch and I just like to watch. Like, you know when you go to Disneyland and you sit down for a second with your churro and you just like to watch like moms?

do embarrassing shit with their kids like they're just like you know talking baby talk super loud to their baby right and that's fun to watch at Disneyland or you're seeing like some sort of you know 15 year old couple that's like all over each other and it's like weirdly entertaining even though you don't know who they are and you're never going to see them again it's the same thing at saddle ranch there's this people watching element that's priceless there's nothing better than seeing

everybody on your For You page interact. There's something very interesting about it. That's why the fucking Hollywood Fix interviews do so well. And there's nothing negative about it for anyone else, I would say. I think it's fun. You know what? If you like... seeing other social media people around. And if you like getting paparazzi, I don't see a negative thing about it. I don't think it's hurting anyone. It just hurts me because my brain doesn't.

like this shit so that's why it's not good for me and it makes me anxious and I was just scratching an itch and people watching and like but I didn't enjoy the elements of it that I was literally walking straight into It's almost like I was better off watching just the Hollywood fix. But I knew that I could just drive 10 minutes and I could be there. And I wanted that.

Because I was like this is fun because I like watching these Hollywood fix interviews. I'm just gonna go live it but it really ended up ruining my life and There it is Somebody said is the food actually good at Saddle Ranch? it's not bad but it's like you could eat good food anywhere that's not what it's about and I think that that's what you know I kind of wanted to talk about today is like almost I wanted to have a confession moment and be like

I've never gone to Saddle Ranch for the food. I go to this. I go to Saddle Ranch for every other element. And I. Had a few weeks where I was guilty of it. And listen, I might go back again. If you see me at Saddle Ranch someday again, don't yell at me. Because there's a decent chance that one night...

My friends and I are going to be like, this kind of sounds fun right now. Like, let's do this. Like, this kind of sounds like it'd be an interesting thing. It's an interesting activity. You know what I mean? To do. It's like interesting.

But I can tell you it's not for the food. Somebody said, do you go to get paparazzi? Personally, I don't because I don't like it and usually it makes me very uncomfortable. But at the same time, when I go, I know that it's a... potential and sometimes it doesn't happen but a lot of the times especially

towards the end of me going there, it started happening almost every time. And that's when I was like, you know what? I don't like this. There was many, many times where I went and it never happened. It was more just a people watching experience. It was fun. It was entertaining, you know.

It's lighthearted there. You're always going to see someone you know. You're always going to run into somebody who was fun. It was like entertaining, whatever. And there was no paparazzi element. But it started to get really bad towards the end of me going there. And so then I stopped going. Because of it because I was like this is just like I don't number one. I don't I don't like it. I don't like walking into it and like I also don't I

I was like, it doesn't make me feel good. It gives me crippling anxiety to watch it the next day. So I want to avoid that at all costs. And yeah, so no, not me. But I do know some people probably do. And that's totally fine because it's kind of, some people enjoy it. And I totally get that too. And I think that a year or two ago, if I would have gotten paparazzi, I would have enjoyed it.

But now I don't anymore. And so, I mean, I don't know if I ever enjoyed it, but I think it never used to happen to me. So if this would have happened to me like.

a year or two ago I probably would have thought it was the I would have like enjoyed it or whatever it wouldn't have created anxiety for me but now it does and so no I no longer want to participate all right we're gonna move on from questions about Saddle Ranch I'm done talking about Saddle Ranch I just needed to like I needed to get that off my chest like I feel like nobody's talking about the truth about Saddle Ranch and I just wanted to be the one to do it and

You know, I hope it was relatively interesting. But for some of y'all who don't know about it, go watch the Hollywood Fix interviews. Go check it out. Go see like how crazy it is there. It's just so weird. Actually, somebody just asked me a good question about, you know what, maybe we'll just keep on the fucking Saddle Ranch topic, okay? Maybe we'll just make this a Saddle Ranch episode.

Somebody said, does the Hollywood fix just hang out in the same spots because the TikTokers don't get creative and just chill around the same three blocks? Or does he like actually go find where you guys are going? Okay, here's my conspiracy because I don't know the truth. I think that there's a few spots that he knows that he can wait and he'll succeed. This is just with paparazzi for influencers in general because it's very different. It's like the paparazzi for like actual, like, you know.

actors or like models and stuff like that. I don't know how that shit works. That's a totally different world. I don't know shit about that. But when it comes to like the weird new paparazzi on YouTube for influencers and TikTokers. it's a very I feel like it's a different game it's like a different thing and it's so interesting to me that it even exists because when I started YouTube it didn't exist so the whole thing is just crazy to me but I feel like he waits

He goes to Boa, he goes to Saddle Ranch, and he goes to... Those are the main two, I feel like. That he waits outside of knowing that TikTokers and YouTubers and any type of influencer is going to go there. Because it's almost like this mutually agreed thing subconsciously that everybody knows that he's going to be there.

And he knows that everybody's going to be there. So it's like this perfect thing, right? Where everybody wins. They know where to find him and he knows where to find everybody. So that's that. As for like day-to-day stuff, like if you find somebody at like a restaurant during the day at lunch or something, I feel like that's more something where people are calling it on themselves. Because I don't know how he would just know that someone's coming out of their, you know.

fucking doctor's appointment like you know at 11 a.m in Beverly Hills like it's so random I just have a hard time believing that he just knew that so I think that there's a decent chance that When it's not at the main locations that everyone knows are like established Hollywood fix spots. Like I feel like that's planned. I've actually always wondered like I.

I've always wondered like how that works. Maybe I'll call the Hollywood fix on myself one time and like pre-plan it and just see how that process goes just so that we can all kind of like know how that shit even works because I've never called it on myself.

ever although one time he found me at my I kid you not he found me at my apartment once and I'm convinced that someone gave him my address I'm like how the fuck did you find me there because I did not call it and you can fucking see it in my face too I was like there is no way you just found me here but I also think he might have followed me home because I was at a popular location

right before i don't know i don't know i i always wonder that but i i want to know like how that works like do you dm him like i don't know kind of fun maybe i'll try it just for a social experiment for all of us somebody said do you think la is overrated It's crazy because I feel like recently LA has gotten a little bit, it's changed a lot since I first moved here, especially over the past few months.

With quarantine like a lot of things have changed about it I feel like you know a lot of stores have closed a lot of like permanently a lot of people have moved out of here um a lot of people have moved here in the first I mean so it's been like both like a lot of people are moving out but a lot of people are moving in

And it definitely has a different feeling than it did when I first moved here. And I miss the old feeling that it had when, you know, when everything was bustling and, you know, there's like so many people here and there's still a lot of people here, but I feel like so many people are leaving and a lot of people.

are over it and I get it because I'm kind of there too it just feels kind of like sad and dreary and dead right now to me and I don't know if that's just because of the fact that we're you know in a pandemic or whatever or if it's just because maybe coronavirus kind of killed la a little bit because there's so many there's been so many clothes closings a lot of things have closed

like a lot of stores like you go down Melrose which is one of the main cool shopping streets in LA and like so many things are closing permanently and it's so sad to see um and it just feels kind of empty now Somebody said, what's one influencer that you really want to collab with? I guess we're doing kind of an influencer. Influencer saddle ranch, truth of it all episode.

The truth about collabing with other influencers is that I think that you assume that you're gonna get along with somebody because they do the same thing as you. But the truth of the matter is that's usually not the case. And it's usually, I mean, it can be a very pleasant experience. It can be fun even. I mean, for sure.

But I found that like it just doesn't always click. And that's why I don't like to collab because I feel like when you structure a video and you collab in a way that's super structured with somebody who you don't.

genuinely feel like you get along with it just it makes the whole experience miserable and it's fake and personally I just don't want to be fake on any front if I've ever collabed with somebody I'm I'm friends with them at least at the time right and so it's not like I'm collabing with people that I don't know on a relatively personal level like it's usually somebody that like I've at least gotten a chance to get to know and I don't know like

I just have a hard time with collabs because I feel like I also don't want there to be some sort of toxicity in the fact that when you collab with somebody, it could benefit one party or both. and with you know growth right like I think a lot of people don't realize that like a big part of collabing is for

I think a lot of the times it can be because it's fun and I don't think that it's always for the number element. But I've seen so many people in this space collab just for the numbers of it all. Not because they actually genuinely like the person or not because they genuinely think that it would be fun to collab with this person. It's more of just like a business move. And I've never done that because I don't believe in that. But I also don't bash people.

do it because this is something that's it's entertainment right like a lot of people are doing this stuff for entertainment purposes and so sometimes it makes sense to do maybe a surface level collab because like you know that might be what makes sense for their business and their you know the business side of their YouTube whatever for me I just don't like looking at it like that and so that's why I've avoided that

at almost all costs and that's why you don't see me collabing with a lot of people or even having guests on this podcast because I'm like I just get anxious about you know making sure that that's an authentic choice somebody said oh this is interesting someone said what's the most romantic thing someone has ever done for you okay this is so off topic and has nothing to do with like anything that we just talked about but

I have an opinion that I want to share. Like this has been something that's been on my mind. I don't like romantic things. Like I was just talking about this with my friend who's a lot older than me. And like she's been in a relationship for a really long time. And, you know, I was talking to her about like, how do you keep things interesting in a relationship when you've been dating somebody for like, you know, five, seven years? Like, does it get boring? Like, whatever.

you know she's like no like it doesn't it doesn't get boring because you you know there's obviously ruts in the while you're dating someone for a long time but like you know when you if you still like if the relationship feelings don't fizzle then it is always exciting in a weird way and i get that i i get that and but it also made me think like because i was kind of asking like

do you have to start doing like fluffy ass shit, like start doing breakfast in bed and shit after seven years because you need to keep things romantic and exciting? I was kind of asking that and, you know, her answer was kind of no. And I think that that's really interesting because I don't really think that romantic, super romantic, traditionally romantic things are like for me. I just don't.

care about that it's just so not my love language and part of me wonders you know are super romantic actions are they overcompensating for a lack of something in the relationship does that make sense like Don't get me wrong. I think it's really nice when somebody does something heartfelt for you, surprises you with like a gift or something like that, that, that like means something, right?

Like that means something when it's like heartfelt and thought out and spontaneous and random. Whereas like when somebody is just like buying you flowers just because to me, that kind of makes me feel like it's because. there's a missing part of the relationship that needs to be filled with some sort of like meaningless gift like a flower or like a fucking breakfast in bed or like

you know, some sort of like meaningless gift. Like, I feel like that's filling a gap in a relationship. And that's always how I felt because like, For me, I don't like that stuff. I don't need that stuff. It could be like my 10-year anniversary with somebody I feel like that I am with. And literally, I'd be fine with just having a normal day. I feel like every day, you know, you do little things like that. And like making some big romantic.

episode like about an anniversary or about whatever I I wonder if that's just maybe some people's love language Or if that's genuinely just overcompensation for a lack of maybe even connection. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it's just that that's just simply not my love language. You know? Who knows?

Because I just feel like that stuff doesn't work for me. I would be happy just sitting with a guy that I'm with and talking about... nothing for hours i'd rather do that than like be surprised with flowers like I've been with a guy and they got me they were shopping and they found something for me that like related to something that I care about like they they got me they found they were thrifting and they found

something that they knew that I would like because it had a personal connection to me. And they gave that to me. I literally cried about it because they were just out doing their own thing. And then they thought of me and they found something for me that they thought I would like. And then they brought it to me and then it was so personal. Like that to me is so much more meaningful than like.

Oh, fuck. Like my girlfriend's mad at me. I'm just going to go bring her flowers, I guess, to like make her happy because like blah, blah, blah. Or like, I feel like I've been a bad boyfriend recently. I'm just going to bring my girlfriend flowers or like.

whatever I mean maybe it can be cute like if it's like they had a bad day and you just want to do something I don't know maybe I just have a jaded view on like I think that sometimes I associate like a large romantic effort with like overcompensation for like bad behavior so maybe I'm just jaded I think that romantic things for me are more like the kind of small mundane things

like that's the stuff that I like will shed a tear over not like some sort of picture perfect shit do you know what I mean I don't know I don't know anyway

I have a hair appointment. So I'm going to go do that. I'm going to go get my hair re-dyed blonde again. It's going to take... probably three hours and I'm gonna have a lot of back pain and it's gonna be shitty but um thank you guys for listening to my little saddle ranch rant I know that's like so random so I hope that that's not too far-fetched for you guys to

understand or listen to if you guys have no idea what the fuck that is but it is really interesting so go do a little saddle ranch research and kind of look at the culture that it has somehow um on the Hollywood well I don't even should I even be fucking promoting that I don't know it's very interesting um so I hope you guys enjoyed this episode I love hanging out with you guys uh feel free to tweet at the ag podcast twitter topics that you want me to talk about

um I'm always open to what you guys want me to talk about um and I want it to be stuff that you guys give a fuck about too so go on the Twitter at AG podcast. Leave us a little review on Apple podcasts. Leave a little five stars if you fuck with it. And I love you all so much. And I appreciate you guys coming back every week to listen. And. Yeah, have a killer week. Here's to Saddle Ranch. Bye, y'all.

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