Author Recap: Rethinking Work: Is it the end of the full time job?

Well, Ches, really interesting, fascinating subject, fascinating guest on, you know, the, you know, we don't all have to sit on the bench all our careers and wait. That's a different way of thinking about work that's coming, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, the old adage, right, from the mailroom to the boardroom, you know, and you had a 50-year career. I mean, my dad worked for the same company for I think over 40 years. I know your dad did too. That was loyalty and that was the roadmap to a comfortable retirement and fulfilling work. It really is a mindset shift on, look, I can do fractional things. It was really interesting to me that she went right away to purposeful and meaningful work that people are looking for that. And if you've got a full-time gig, you might get trapped with that bad boss or a company that's taking a left turn and you don't feel like your work is meaningful or purposeful. The other thing that I took away was this idea of the benefit to the company of having a fractional C-suite person, is the knowledge that they bring from the other companies they're working with. And she said, look, it does feel like, you know, you're the only guy, the only client, and yet we know you have other clients. And to be able to bring that diversity of experience is also a huge benefit. Well, it is because we work with, I mean, who's producing for us? It's our amazing Brent Klein, and he's fractional for us. And yet when we call on Brent, he's there for us. Christy Lawrence, who is our booking agent, she works with other people, but we feel like they work just for us. And so this works, but we're also, as I mentioned, we also do that for the clients we work with. When we're on retainer for somebody on their, when we do executive coaching, when we consult on their culture, we are there for them. Remember one day, remember when we were back in our corporate days, Jess and Dave Ulrich, our good friend, HR guru Dave Ulrich came in and he asked us a question. He says, who do you think's happier? So people who work for a corporation have stability and that, or people who work on their own have to worry about their next meal. And we work for a corporation, so we said the corporate guys. And he said, no, he says vastly more, they're much people are happier when they're on their own and they have autonomy and freedom. And boy, does that prove out. So if we have a whole economy built on that, it could be really interesting. Yeah, the right people at the right time, fractional C-suite. Yeah, I think it's really interesting. And clearly, she said, the younger generation is already in a portfolio mode, you know my son Garrett he does a lot of video production He's doing it for the company works with full-time and they encourage him to do Side gigs because it keeps their creative juices flowing and brings in other experiences, you know, speaking of juices Adrian I I know I'm a little maniacal about this magic mind is kind of a magic juice for me Where it does calm me down. Of course, we have a wonderful relationship They've got some wonderful products that help you sleep. But the one that I really like is the Magic Mind. Seven hours, easy up, easy down, all natural ingredients. Go to magicmind.com forward slash Gossigan and Elton 20 and get a 20% discount. I've started to hoard it, Adrian. It's a little, you know, I've got, I want to make sure I never run out. Kind of like that toilet paper shortage in 2020. You never want to be out of your magic mind. I'm still in the pandemic mindset. But anyway, yeah, I think Sarah really brought to us that future of work, what does it look like? And not just for the older established people. I thought it was really interesting to see younger people were coming into this and figuring it out, the diversity, the engagement, the stimulation, the purpose. Yeah, I thought it was great. That's awesome, that's awesome. Well, good. We had a great visit, another great guest here. We want to thank Brent Klein for putting all this together for us, our producer. We want to thank Christy Lawrence who helps us find and book amazing guests, and to all of you who listened in. If you like the podcast, please share it. We'd also love you to visit our website, thecultureworks.com. That's thecultureworks.com for some free resources to help you and your team culture thrive. Yeah, and buy the book, Anxiety at Work. There's lots of great resources there as well, and we love speaking to audiences around the world, whether it's virtual or in person on topics like culture, teamwork, resilience, reducing anxiety. Give us a call. We'd love to talk to you about your event as well. Adrian, I'll give you the last word as almost all. Hey, if anybody's still listening, we appreciate you hanging out to the end here. Maybe you just couldn't reach the button as you were jogging or whatever you're doing, but we want to thank you for joining us. And until next time, we wish you the best in mental health.