Episode 48 Ft Garren James and Nick Hawk

saw you on their nick uh huh. We saw not a lot of clothes on us part us some of the first of all, what's up with the private profiles? Started with some guys that are private, how are we supposed to pick you? Well, they have a code that you can unlock the profile. Yeah. Some of those guys, they're they're more like they have corporate jobs where they have different there in modeling agencies and things like that, so they just want to be a little bit more private.

So when a client calls, and some clients prefer a private person if they're going to a wedding and event and they just they paranoid that maybe somebody would spot them with somebody on the website or something like that. Have guys ever gone to like the same event and been hired to go to the same event and being like yo, from across the room? All right, now, you know we always sat with the tip of the day. So here's a great tip that you guys can help allot them men out with. Okay, how do you get

hard when you're not turned on? What are some tricks to get hard when you're not really turned on by a woman? Well, you got I don't know why you want to force that if if you you have a problem doing it, you shouldn't have a problem, you know, getting hard. It's it's a mental thing, you know, practicing with your with yourself will do it. But you know, find something you're attracted to. It shouldn't be that difficult you're talking about when you're with a women, right, you

should be able to find something you're attracted to. It shouldn't be Sometimes your penis doesn't cooperate with your brain. Yeah, well, then you know you gotta you gotta eat better, you gotta exercise, you gotta take better care of yourself. Yeah, Okay, sleep more. There's anything you do to benefit yourself, it's going to help your libido and sex drive. What if okay, but what if like the woman you're you're not you know you're doing You're having sex with this woman for

a reason, you know, like whether it be money. Some guys who are listening as might need a house to stand. Ye means when it's like income tax. Yeah, when you're asking start training your brand up here and thinking differently, you know. Okay, Well, I mean it's really hard to find a woman that there's not something that's attractive about her, whether it's her smile or the way that she looks at you, or or the way that she's helping you out in your life. You know, so that's attractive. Um,

I would hope that that. Yeah, And you know, it's not always about your cock in bed with women obviously. I mean, there's so many other tools that you can use your mouth if woman has feel good right, that's true. Now that that's a great tip. I mean there's a lot of tools you can You can also bring a toolbox with you, you know, there's multiple explore. Sometimes I jump into it a little bit and I'm not immediately turned on if I if I go down on a woman,

that that arouses me turns me on two. So yeah, it doesn't matter if she's super hairy. Does that bother you? I'm not a question fan of. Can we ask you, ladies, like what your current hair situation is? What? I have a landing strip? Okay, that's nice. I'm a little bit too hairy that then I would like to be at the moment, but I plan to take care of that tomorrow just a little. Are you that much? Yeah? They take care of it or they just have a little

strip or something. I usually have a landing strip, but I'm doing a little bit lex and lazy and when they're getting it on a little bread a little every couple of because you know what A mean, because I feel like a second I didn't get a third answer, and she's completely bald, And yeah, I shave it. I shave everything like I squat down and shave my crack. I shave it. You know it? Her shape to shaving

doesn't that make you steadily? Um? I shave it like every day whenever I started feeling Yeah, when I shaved every single single single day. Yeah, which is why these days I'm like the only time I don't shap is when I'm on my period and I just finished my period and it's like the best day. The last day is like, yes, I'm gonna clean everything and shave it all up. She also bleaches her asshole. Yeah, I do.

I bleach. I bleach everything. I bleached my whole keep it clean, everything, all of that, the whole entire area, even the clippers and everything. Myself, I don't. I don't shave anything. I get grown hairs and stuff and do that, but I haven't expensive the clippers that I take that everything. Okay, Now for those guys, bring it to a box. Alright, so two box so like a like a dildo. There's a lot of toys. You guys are intimidated by toys. Sometimes.

That's about to say that some guys don't want kids. That's what it is. You know. There's so many different fun things. I mean, you can bring up a rope, you can bring bring a sexy up. Yeah, bring a rope. You don't do some time or that's just can't get hard then what I've never been signed up. They have these these outfit things that they're like like a mesh. You know, and you can you put it on just so so you could tear it off the woman And that's fun and sexy. Get some of that that's hot.

That's fun. That is hot. That should turn the clothes off. So a edible panties tasty though they look like it's like they're come in different flavors and stuff. I like crotch lists clothes though, that's that's a turnout. All that's sexy, like black flate tax or leather with with a hole in the croducts really nice. I do. I like that easy? What about you guys? Are they things that you'll were like you get dressed up to cowboys for angels? You know, I don't think that that there is an out there

a men's lingerie line that is sexy. I mean you got like the Little Elephant underwear or something. I mean it's just like no sexy men's underwear or lingerie line. It's nothing like a clean cut man with a with a fresh hair cut and you know, nice jacket pants, shoes, whatever is the equivalent to us seeing a woman in lingerie?

Absolutely so, But what about like guys, you guys have those pants that can just rip off and stuff so I sometimes I feel like mile stippers do a lot more work than female stippers do because I've been to mirror review shows. Was phenomenal because she was doing all kind of chicks. But I feel like because y'all got to like pick women like set your dick on fire instead. Yeah, you gotta spinning flips like women. You're just like you

like this shake shake their you know, shaking a little bit. Actually, there's a pole dancing that's that's a good workout too. It's like too much of a workout. It takes a lot of strength to get up there and climb on that phole. Was a phenomenal I still I teach it. I teach dancing, but I feel good. But I feel like there's some women who don't do nothing. Like they beat you up too, man. I for an episode, I took some pole dance classes and end all that it

kicked my ass. I bruises everywhere all things. I'm a little too big to be up on a pole. I think a girl can handle that a little better than me. But that was hurting. Yeah, alright, Well, now have you ever been hired by somebody that you really ended up liking? All of them? Most of them, most of them. You know, they they come into this situation, they have a great attitude,

they're excited about it. You know, usually they're in Vegas ready to have a good time, so very very a few times and someone in like a bad attitude and I don't have a good time, and I don't like them. I've been I've owned this agency for eight years, and maybe once or twice over the eight years, someone will call me, I'm one of my guys and say, listen, if she would like to schedule me again, like I'm

out of town. I mean, it just doesn't happen. I mean, because you know, these women are going into this to have a good time, so they're usually a lot of fun to be around. I mean, I've only done that one time. Is this because she didn't take care of herself? Though? What does that mean? She had a rotten tool? You could smell it. I could smell that ship when I was parking my car too. It was rough through and I didn't want to hurt her feelings or anything, but

you know I couldn't see again. You are the only two things if they don't take care of themselves or if they had a bad attitude and like you said, it's it's really rare them. You don't think it's worth telling her though, like honey, might needn see your dentist. I don't think I'm I'm there to, you know, try to make her feel good about herself everything. I didn't want to ruin that that moment. You know, it's it's

sometimes it's like a bucket list thing for them. And if you know, if it is kind of my job to make them feel good, and if I've said that, that would totally you know what if she asked you, like, is my breath? Does this smell a little tight to you? Honest? I would have to be honest in that situation. If if she asked about it, I'd be like, you don't smell that ship She knew her rough Now, what would you say? The majority of your clients are like, what's

the description of these women? Because they were all trying to figure it out what types of women or your clients L base, we mean we have different I guess you could say a lot of different sections or groups of women. And I love the calls from women and the first thing that they say is listen, I don't need your service. I'm a beautiful woman, a woman. I just want to have some fun tonight. So we have a lot of those calls. And then we have a

lot of executives. Women that are traveling coming to New York and they're from l A and they don't want to jump on match or go sit at a bar. They want to go out for a fun night and have somebody that can show them around, protect them, be protective. Um. So there's a lot of those traveling women. We have women that are more I guess you could say special needs kind of women. Um, these are the women that I love calls from. They're going through a divorce, they're

having a battle of their lifetime. They're fighting for their kids, they're fighting for you know what, they've worked for their whole life, and they can't jump into a new relationship because they're in a battle. So how do you start a new relationship when you're going through a battle. But they're so sick and tired and they just want to have a weekend of fun, and so like we're like

a relief for them. We have women that have lost their spouses for over twenty years, um, haven't stepped out of the dating scene and and like for us to just like break them back into like, oh my god, I'm so nerve. I was only with this one person that was everything. I guess everything you just said was everything. I guess. Yeah, that's all right. I enjoyed that part two in a stepping stone of some sort. But what did they get attached? And do you feel bad? Like attached?

One sense is okay? But you know I laid down the law and draw a line and put up a border and say this is how it is. This is I plan on doing this for a long time, and I see other people. I'd love to continue to see you. But I'm never gonna lie to a client and say someday I'm gonna quit this. I'm a run away. He stays crying. Whatever. I understand that front from from the first second. I'm up front. You know, they didn't a matchmaker,

they didn't call. They're not looking to get married. They're looking for fun, like they're looking to pay to be Like, Okay, time to go. I gotta go to work. I got things to do in my life. So speaking of time, like, do you guys like have a certain time, like it's the date all night long? So the next morning. Yeah, we have overnights, so we sort of so not all dates are overnights. It could be I've booked two week appointments. I have booked really two weeks. What about like a

couple of hours. What about like a woman could call and asks to be with a man for an hotel room for an hour? Well, yeah, I mean our appointment. You know, it's kind of I try to let people know an hour's extremely short, you know, and so I usually recommend a four hour appointment. If you're doing this, Um, so you can meet at the lobby bar, have a drink, get to know somebody, possibly go upstairs, go you know whatever,

you know. Direction you what if she just wants to fuck, Well, if she tells me she just wants to funk, I can't book the appointment because that's then you have How does that so you have an option? Like if you guys go out, then absolutely like you can't have sex if you so choose, But it's not part of Yeah, I mean, you know, I have to follow the law.

You know, I have a family of kids, you know, and and in an agency to protect so you know, our our service and you girls know, I mean, so it's just for a da not just you, but you know that any woman, I mean you you three this. You can't even ask you three this question, but you know you can walk into a bar and raise your hand and be like I need some sex right now. Yeah, and you'd have like fifty two guys. But any woman can basically do that. So obviously our services a little

bit beyond that. They're tired of, you know, the lame date or the lame funk or whatever that is. If we want to have like some beautiful attention and like the man that pushes in their chair and just like really cares about them. He's not on his phone, he's

not like he's into you. He doesn't look at anybody, So you're not You're used to all this stuff that I'm saying, like, so when that looks at you the whole time, doesn't look So is there a training process that yeah, I mean it's very strict, very very strict policy. But you know what, things do get romantic. I mean obviously if you're with uh with a client and there's a spark, and you know, there's a romantic spark, things can happen on on appointments, you know, but that's not

something that you know, it's not a service, right, you can't. Right, you can't say now listen now that my time's up if you give me, you know, an extra thousand dollars. You know you can't know that's a But what about it like Vegas? Yeah, in place and not in Vegas and Nevada because it's in the leg and there's certain counties. But yeah, not in the city of Vegas, you know.

But the beauty of the Showtime show Jiggelos, which is airing on Thursday night, UM, is that we have a sign up list on our website and there's a specific box that says do you want to be on the Showtime show? And and we send an email blast out when it were ready to air, and it says your name,

some photos and what is your wildest sexual fantasy. Now I would then submit those to the producer and we pick through those and then that that person is then um free flight, free hotel, and a small step and to appear on camera so they can be as wild as they want and do whatever they want because the producers pay the men. So on the show there's some wild, crazy ass sexual Now, let me what if a woman is like I want to hire two guys. Sure, she

doesn't happen often a lot of double dates. Did a lot like three three girls like you going to Vegas and have with them? Yeah, I already know who's death wants. Yeah, they already picked. They went from I mean, just um, just for you know, just for the record, I I sleep with really gorge this guy is and they don't

charge me. But but I thought, um, I thought that, you know, because from the photos on the website, and um, I thought, you know, like this would be for a woman, like maybe she can have sex with a guy, you know, pick a guy, but not get like a hot guy, you know what I mean, somebody that's gonna fuck the ship out of her all the you know, and look really good at the same time, you know what I mean. But again, like that's what I thought. The woman, any woman can get laid. I mean, this is this is

really more than just sex. But it's like a whole it's a boyfriend experience. It's being taken care of, it's being courted, it's being comforted, it's being Okay, I get it, I'm attention. And they're still working on legalizing prostitution and everything like that. In the bada as well. But we I still want to do that. I would, I would still do this can hanionship. I think they should anyways and regulate it. You know, it's been proven to work better,

you know. But you know, I'm just saying again, women, of course, it's easier for us to get lead than it is for a guy, right, I don't know what it's for guys too, but I mean, like, I don't think that's easy for guys to get late. I don't think it's easy for a woman to get laid by a star, by a guy who's likely isn't here, you know, Like I mean, like a guy who is just like you know, who looks like a statue, you know what

I mean. I don't think that every girl. I know, girls who their whole lives, they're not going to get that. So it's just that statues aren't that much fun. No, But I mean that looks like you know what I mean, do you have like you know, you look at this man and he looks like his body looks like you know what I mean, like it's chisel. It looks right. But I don't think there's you know, sometimes a woman could get a guy with a really hot body and he got bad teeth for a funked up looking face,

or is versa really good face or bad body? You know what I mean? What about cuddling? How often do women hire you they want to just cuddle. I want to be everybody likes the cuddle. I like the cuddle because I know there was a whole story. But I think in Japan there's all these guys that get paid just to cuddle. Yeah, I read am you read about that?

Does that happen often? Women cuddling? I mean overnight Obviously they're going to be in the same bed, and they want to feel protected and safe, and you know, they want to feel loved another body, other energy connection. I like cuddling with sometimes I just don't want to be touched. I'm like, all right, so you hired you. Yeah, you lay next to me and don't test you. But That's why I'm not the hiring a guy a guy type of girl, because you know, I want my man there.

I want a guy there, and then I don't you know what I mean, So so you can call them over. No, I'm not paying for anything. I'm not paying right anything. Well, you know it's like this uh, I got to pay my bells. Most most women, it's it's kind of like they've been taught that it's okay for a man to hire somebody, but it's not okay for a woman, Like

it's it's like below you or something like that. But really it's empowering that so many women call and they say, like, this is going to be so much fun, Like actually, I think it's really awesome. Yeah, amazing, And especially the way you described it, and again every woman that you described as who your clientele, it was what I thought was what I guess, divorce seas and people on vacation and so forth, and so one. Or if you're very busy and you like the I need some arm candy

with me, right. One of the biggest ones is, Yeah, some lady who spent a lot of time in college and educating herself and starting her business or working for a company and working her way up in the company, so she's super successful and she can she can afford to have a quality companion. She doesn't have to go out and date and date and date to to try to find somebody, and it's on her time, it's on

her schedule, and when it's done it's back. She can make enough money to keep him faithful, to keep him what's that like? Do you think she has enough money like to pay him forever so she could just be worth Because at the end of the day, that's what a woman wants, no matter how successful she is or what he did. You know, you want forever companion. Yeah, yeah,

I think we all want that. And I don't really date my personal life, but I'm open to finding someone like that who accepts me and from what I do. And I don't plan on getting out anytime soon. But the likelihood of meeting that perfect person, if you're realist, is very unlikely. Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of a sad thing. I'm a hopeless romantic at hard a little bit too. But and it's a lot of work, and it's a lot of it's a lot of a lot of bad relationships and and a lot of bullshit.

And we're kind of we're kind of moving into a society. No, but I mean for that woman that you said, who just didn't have time to find that, you know what I mean, and established and she's done and she's right, that's what I mean. And I'm by herself, so she could go and get one of you guys, right, and that's nice. Done what we get her in the game a little bit too, make your feel more confident of course. Yeah,

we're temporary. We're just temporary. Yeah. I met a couple of regulars who have met a boyfriend and I wish them the best of luck and everything missed them. Especially we do. I do a lot of amazing stuff and we have weekend bookings and if you go to Days Africa for Desication, you definitely know that has a woman ever been like I'm sure, Okay, I just want you to get out the game and just you know, oh, I lay down the law from from guy down the law.

But for women sometimes we feel like it's the skills that we're doing this one that you have to have if you're successful. Jiggo. You know, we're not going to be respecting. She's not gonna believe anything you say, right, And I teach my guys just always be completely honest with with your clientele. I mean, your job is to make them feel special, but you know, read the littlest

of bullshit. Don't say you know hey, baby, like you know you keep booking me and eventually I mean that's yeah, no, because that's not you know, we're here to be honest with them and you want to here to lead you on or anything like that. Our our services a set time frame and you're paying for a certain amount of time, and they know that, and we're not like you know, the old misconception of a jiggalo is, you know, to

lead somebody on to. But I can say on the reverse, and you know, like like you were saying before, it's um, it's like it's a common thing for a woman to be a process who you know, it's it's probably the oldest job in the in history, you know what I mean. So, but a lot of times you hear a process of Marian the trick. You hear about that, Yeah, you hear about that all the time. I'm open to finding someone

like that, you know. Like I said, I I love my life, though it would take somebody very special to change me. Most likely, if I did meet somebody who accept of me, she would accept my job at what I do as well. And when people see you, they probably already recognized you from gigelow a little. It's a lot more than I thought it would be for being a show time. I mean you guys, said the one of the top ten shows on cable television. Still, of

course you're going to get recognized. Yeah, yeah, But are you honest If a woman doesn't know who you were and she's like, oh, so what do you do, what do you say? Well, he said, he doesn't date, and lots of other stuff. I usually talk about one of my other one of the other things I do. I do music. Yeah, okay, But of the men, I'm sure a few of them have girlfriends, just that they accept that this is their boyfriend's job. Yeah, that was gonna be my question. How did you get started? Because I

see that you're married. So how I started this business Because I started dating women who owned an agency, Women for Men, and then I slowly learned the business from her, started working with her, and then started my agency. But so I need that it had to be. But were you yourself? Well, when I first started the agency, we didn't have I didn't have a lot of guys, so I'd get a call and no one's available, so I

would take the calls. But as I got busier and busier, you know, my job now is to be in constant contact and scheduling and talking to the clients. You can't have a Friday night gig when he has five other bookings. You know, you know, because I walk everybody into the appointments and I'm talking to people, and people get lost and things like So I couldn't be a great date on my phone. So I had this booking, you would be the worst day, yell at him, allege. I take

his phone from it. I'm like, you don't get this phone for five minutes. We're gonna stay here and toss. Now, what about women have certain fetishes like I have some fans that only like fat guys. Really, oh my god, I do have one fancy loves fat guys. Right, So I didn't see any fat guys on the site. No, we don't have any. You know what do they call? Remember? Yes, there's no teddy bears on the site. Well we could always start, uh, you know a subdivision? Do you know

when out there? I know some good teddy beards Shelby chases are out there. Seriously, there might be some like need for some type of some women like guys with really small penises. I never heard that either. I think you're making it up. I don't know about I don't know about that. I mean, you know, yeah, I don't. I don't know about that. Okay, So what's yours? What's my fetish? Let me see what am I like? Um? Well, I like think guys. I think I kind of like

guys with beards. Maybe I don't know's I think maybe scruff. What's up with those? No woman is into those those trendy big fats, I'm not. I hate it. It's awful. I think other guys are into their guys. Yeah, I think that. I think helping nobody. Yeah, that's a cool beerd bro, and you're like, bro, your girl's gotta fetish. My thing is like a dinner in your beard? How do you clean it? Like? How do you seen it? It smells like bear should not be dirty sons like pizza.

It's gonna smell like clean beard. Take care of them and everything. What are your girls a fetishes? Um? I don't think I have one? Okay, so let me because I did? Okay? So gee, if you were going to hire a male escort, what would your requirements be? If you could put together the perfect mail for the night, what would you say? Would be his attributes as fire? It's not even just his looks, but everything about him would be the person would depend on what are you

you degrade? I like your shoes, thank you, Okay, that's important. And I like your techs so you do good too. And actually I like your whole style Peter, jewelry and everything when you first walked in. It's cool. Appreciate it. But I don't know. I don't. That's a hard question.

I guess it has to look at things that you would have to be like, um, whatever we were doing, like, I would need somebody that would be able to if I was interested in going to like an amusement park, I would need somebody who wants to rnbody fun that doesn't get sick fun, who wants the funnel cake with me and you know that type of thing. Somebody who hold win me all a bunch of teddy bears and

hold them for me. You know he's gonna have good aim. Yeah, that's what I tell It's so much about the little things that women love. The little things, is what camp? Yeah? Alright? What else? And looks wise, what would you go for because that's the first tall okay tall? What else? Hure? They don't like younger glasses? Shut up? He's talking about my late thirties. Yeah, I like them older. I'm late thirties.

I like them older to make like forties. You might like you're I think you're describing Tommy down And that's definitely that's the one that's like, yeah, you see alright, so mature for for five years and we actually he lives down in South Florida with me, so we hang a lot, okay, so you know we can because definitely she's like, yeah, I like Tommy. I'll let you know

what I come to, Mimi, isn't I wouldn't. I'm not a good client for that because if I were to hire a man for to keep me company, I want to get fucked. Okay, So what do you would have? To have? A big dick really like a six pack, you know what I mean, a good face, strong hands, like be able to choke me, and you know, to

be rough. You know that's what I like her, Tommy. Yeah, like I don't know, you know, that's what I mean, like I don't care about the conversation, a little to be not be scared, you know, be able to slap me, because those are the things that I don't get from guys. Listen to this right now, so if I was, I wouldn't be able to buy anybody's time in your service because I would require you're gonna have to go to a brothel and yeah, yeah you got whatever Heidi place has,

ye girl. I mean, if I was to hire a man, I'm not gonna want to walk around with him. But let's just say I'm gonna want to aside from the fucking part and the guy with the big horse dick, personality wise, you know, what would you look for for somebody. Obviously there's gonna be I'm gonna pay, I'm gonna to be aggressive, I take it right. I want him to be like I want him to be in control. If the personality wise, I need him to be like, sit, come on, let's go. All right, you lay down on

your knees. That's crazy. You know. Some of my best guys exactly, some of my best guys have taken dominatrix classes because there with women that are very high and high stress level jobs and their bosses they're corporate and their bosses, and they want someone to like say you're done being a boss. I'm the boss. When I was a dancer, when they the guys with a lot of the guys that were high in power, um, in their employment, they would want to Yeah, they would want to be

like you know, the whole S and M thing they told. Yeah, they would want to be told what to do. When you're a boss all day, you don't want to be a boss having Really, I know this woman who's a dominated and she said their highest clientele is Orthodox Jewish men. She said, that is like the most you know, client tell that they have, aren't the ones with the girls are there? You see them all the time and when I where I live at, it's a whole big community

on them. So then when I see them, I'm gonna be like the mirrors and oh my god every time I see one of them, mamma bee And I'm like, I know, you know they say in the dominators, you're not supposed to sleep at your client ends. Is that true for us that dominated you're not supposed sleep at the client because they said, that's like giving up power. Yeah, you're not supposed to it. It's all about like it's all about like, um, yeah, as long as they're in

control it it happens. Sometimes. What's the most add requestion you've ever gotten? Like, oh my god, I mean, over the years, we had just gotten some crazy like you know, obviously the website says straight male companions, but there's always this guy, you know, guy men that are like wants me to fart on their face and ship. It's weird. What if you don't have to do anything with them?

Is there anything wrong? Like if that's a great check and you don't have to do anything, you wouldn't just fart in your Face't make myself don't know that you were thinking about it. I mean it's like being a dominatrix in a way because that's what they do, kind of like different weird things without having said the chest, I mean, I don't know, that's not enough, like uh,

you know, and it's trying. It's strange. What I don't understand is there'll be a gay man and he'll say, um, I only like straight men, and so that's why I'm calling you. And I'm like, don't you get it that if if he's gonna be with you, then he's not a straight man. So how does that fantasy about any transgender women as quient? You know, we've had over the years, I've had about three calls and and like it's kind of a situation where I just don't know what to do. Um,

because I don't know what to do. You don't leave it. You should leave it up to um. You know, some of the escorts to see if they're down for it. Yeah, I mean, you know, so far it's never gotten past the part of me like you know, let me think

about it. And they haven't like pursued it more than that, so you know, I don't know, like it's such a it's well for me, it's like a newer thing and like you know, how to handle that situation, you know, because we're like for women, and but they they are women. So yeah, well, I mean the postop ones. Yeah, technically yeah, Nick's like, no, I'm not doing it. I've put thought into it as well. And it's just not a common

call anywhere. It's tricky. I mean, I don't I don't see myself, you know, being being attracted and having a connection like that, even if they went through the surgery and everything, I don't think I would, right, I don't think they have to tell you that either by the way they wanted they wanted. I mean, I always know you can tell. I always know that you've seen so you've had some clients because I would assume that if you you're a post app, you don't have to tell.

And when I'm friends with with a few, but I just I always know I support them. I support the whole gay community as well. Yeah that as long as you are whoever you know you're supposed to be, I support you. Yeah, and I and I also like when men call. I helped direct them to find you know, agencies men for men. You know nothing against it. But when we started the agents, I found that if a woman was going to hire Billy, she didn't want him to be with Joey the night before, killed their whole

the fantasy. So we're very strict with hiring street men for women only, so pretty much worldwide. You know, we're the biggest and best at that particular market. So do you like check guys out as far as like, okay, I need to know your measurements. Yeah, that's a good quest. I'm gonna hire her. I need you because I tell you that you're into that. You know, so maybe I want to get your number, give it to Tommy and then you too can work out a deal where he

hooks you up in payment for you. I always do deals. That's what I'm all about, doing deals good. Honestly, you should be on the show. I should be on the show is the most wildest request you guys get from the ones that are on the show that you know, with Showtime, we can say there's a woman and she's in a wheelchair and she hasn't been on a date in a long time, and maybe a couple of guys can go out with her and make her, you know,

take her to Vegas and take her. And the producers across the table they were like, do you think she'll show her tits? And I'm like, come on, it's not that day. And they're like, okay, onto the next idea, you know. So yeah, it's the wildest and craziest kind of women show too. And they get notes from Showtime saying, you know they have to show so much as well. Okay, it's wacky, crazy, dirty, but it's no, and I don't want to be on the show. I'm not doing porn.

You want to do? No, She'll just be should go on in the episode and we'll do uh because I gotta do some new recruiting and then you know, I'll do the recruit I'll talk to the guys and then she'll take him in the back room drop your pants. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna work everything you said. You know what women want, right, Yeah,

Over the years, a lot of women went. Women want they want to feel special, they want to feel love, they want to have attention, they want to they want to go on a date and again, not have a guy on his phone and and and paying attention to them, remembering what they're saying, asking them questions about them, not talking about themselves. Yeah, caring, fun, being involved individual. Yeah. So a big thing that women are turn off on

is ego, Like too much ego. I mean, healthy ego is great, but when you're just they're talking about yourself, that ain't gonna work when a woman Yeah, humble confidence and so you know that's what a woman wants. Um. They want to ultimately feel special and UM at the end of the day, if if you're good at that, then you'll you would do well in this industry. Is actually caring about people. You can't be fake about caring

about somebody. Everyone can see right through that. So especially women. Yeah, so you have to, like, I hire guys that care about people. Um in general. So and they're getting paid obviously. I mean there's no you know, we're doing this like me to when I started the job, and we get paid. So when I started this, it was what it was. And you know, I didn't I actually didn't have that much to bring to the table as as I do now. You know, I try to help and bring as much

as I can. Besides, you know, just being fit and taking care of myself, you know, help them if they want to do that. I like to motivate my clients, and it helped them with their business and bouncing ideas off of them and being creative and health, fitness, nutrition, everything, Nick, did you ever envisioned doing this? Like? Was this something? Like? Is it crazy to you? Sometimes you think about it like this? Well, it was. I left the Air Force in oh five. I was in the Air Force for

four years. I went for the g I Bill and then I after that, I moved to California pursue entertainment and I got into stripping and uh and I stripped for five years before I did this. He's taking off, all right. He try to slide out. He's busy, you know, he's been in his business. We're gonna all right now we can really get into it with Nick now, oh said by you didn't have to like sneak. He was trying to sneak out. He's trying to try to do

it on the slow. But you put them out there, so you put them on glass women, women and devastated and you just try to sneak out on us. But Attle he really cares duck out the back door by g all right, always over for you, now, Nick, you don't have any backup. Alright. So yeah, stripped for five years, and towards the third or fourth year or something that I was actually interested in. I approached to a few companies to two pops possibly do it, but like he said,

there wasn't any companies. I think he said in this interview, there wasn't any companies that were straight men for straight women, and all the guys were pretty much seeing guys, so there wasn't amy out there. Then luckily, a couple of years later, he found me on a modeling website and approached me. Saw that I had the stripping background, which helped a little bit, like my look, met me like my personal personality, and theres his history, so yeah, I

can see you as an actor. Really, I loved it. I loved it. I loved living in Hollywood. I miss it. I live in Vegas now, and I was going around auditioning every day. And you know when Gigolos approached me, it was it was after studying um acting full time

for five years. I was doing a lot of improv classes and audition classes, and I got to the point where I really felt like I perfected my craft and I was getting callbacks to everything, and I knew the town and casting directors, which are a big part of it. And all my representation says, you know, you can't do adult and you can't do reality, and it was both. Giggolos was both, but it was a starring role on a showtime series and I was doing music and stuff too.

I'm like, man, this show has got to go like three seasons. If it goes one or two, I'm screw Like I'm gonna be a joke. And that's how it wasn't the beginning to like what is this? Who are these jokes? But then then season three happened, then four happened, then everything else with the charity Top five and six, We're having our biggest season ever right now. It's just crazy journey. Yeah. How competitive is it with the guys though, Like we always see all these movies and you know

what a tough businesses. I know for women, it's really competitive with women. Is competitive for women? I mean on the shore with the other guys with the agency, Yes, yeah, in the agency. Just as far as this, you know, this industry, how competitive is it? Is it like a lot of cutthroat each other clients. I don't know about that, you know that. I don't think that's that type of

person who works for this agency. The other guys on the shore are good guys as well, and you know we we motivated and inspire each other and we push each other. You know. If this guy is doing this, so I want to do that, you know. And is there a lot of like you get a client and then you reach out to then y'all talk like offline. You know, I know everything has to go through the agency. But I'm sure these women will be like, well, let me just hit you out myself, like no, it's it's

it's not allowed. Um. Sometimes if it's a regular and she needs to pass on a message or note or help plan a trip or something like that, you know, I'll give a quick phone call, but I'll block my number, but there's there's no contact at all. That's one of Garan's biggest rules. So I respect that. Yeah, but what about if you really end up having a person of relations on a birthday once in a while or something like that. I always, oh really, So no matter any contact,

you would let the agency. I like to bring it up in some way, and I'll tell you know, I called her this week and this is going on, and you know, usually she's talking about some type of booking anyways as well. Okay, so it's kind of like a follow up for but that's good. A little bit. I'd like to check in. I wish I could check in more than than than I do as well. But it's kind of like when I after I see somebody, I'm kind of gearing up and get in the mindset to

see the next person too, you know. I I kind of I have like, you know, twenty thirty girlfriends, you know that that that I see it, and it's and I can't have all of them my mind at all times, so I can't be in that I'm with it because it's not like he's lying about anything, you know what I mean. He's not, and these women aren't being blindsided to the station they are walking and they know. Are you ever sick of being? Like? I got to be the perfect guy for all these women? Who are you? Like?

Who are you talk to? Um? Do I get sick of it? No? I enjoy it. I try to be you know, better at every date and everything. But you know, I am kind of the pleaser. I love I like being being a pleaser. But yeah, once in a while, you know, I I don't mind being pleased, And unfortunately, sometimes my regulars will do that for you there's something that I like, or you know, take care of me for a night. You know. They always say in every relationship there's a giver and there's a taker, So you're

more of a giver. Yeah, every single one, unless it's my birth. There something she wants to do, something special. You know, what, do you have a fall in love? You have you ever felt like an emotional connection with somebody when on some level I put up that wall though I don't allow it to pass a certain point. And when when I was younger, I bounced around from girl to girl, falling in and out of love or

what I thought love was at the time. You know, I think a lot of love is immaturity and being scared and and thinking that you society in Hollywood tells us we need to be married and settled down with kids when we're in early twenties pretty much, and you know, so, so we're scared and we're looking for that next person. If this person I'm attracted to you just a little bit, I'm gonna jump in relationship and it's gonna suck. I'm gonna make it work and we're gonna fight. But that's okay,

you know people fight. No, it shouldn't be like that. How do you decide how to spend a birthday with m does that quest extra um or do you have several birthdays? Usually special clients booked me for my birthday? I'm trying to think the last couple, when's your birthday? September three? Karen's September one as well? For Yeah, Yeah, he'd was like, okay, it's my bright day. Who am I going to spend away? Everybody? You got to outbid each other? How many days dild you say you go

on in one day? Like with the most Oh no, it's nothing like that. When when the show got picked up For the first year, it was only like one or two months. I was lucky to get to it wasn't there. But then the show aired and a lot more came in and I overwhelmed myself. I'd see a few a week, but typically it's like one a week, and I have an overnight and overnight minimum on weekends, so typically it's an overnight or weekend booking. Not The real question is how expensive is it. The overnights are

three grand, the weekends are eight grand. It's not bad, Okay, Garen take that, but it's still nice money money. I'm happy with it. Garen wants to put my prices up again because I have a lot of bookings that I can't handle. Supply demand a little bit, but I'm happy where they're at. I think it's I think it's fair if I one night, like, forget that Chanel bag, We're gonna book Nick. I like to think I'm worth it. Oh my goodness. So all right, So he was talking

about what women want? So you what do you think that women went? Garen was telling us he knows what women went. What do you say that that women want? He said? He I agree with a lot of things that he said, he talked about um, some women, you know want the alpha type male. It's most women want. Most women want the alpha type. Most women do want you to take control. You know, when they're they're handling the finances and the date and the planning a little bit.

You know they can't handle all of that, but you know, you take control another way. You make sure you get to if they plan a few things. You make sure you get to where you're going, and you check in the reservation, and you know, you take control of the conversations and you know, if anything develops, you take control

of every situation. They do like that. Yeah, Like I wouldn't mean like a like a like a wholk type of guy like I would if I would to hire somebody, it would be to get what I can't get from guys. And that would be like abuse. Sure, you think abuse is a bad word. Rough players, blood, broken bones, a little little chokings, Okay, as long as you don't pass out sad, isn't any up a little bit grab them aples and flip your asshole, Yeah yeah, or anything? No,

I mean you don't want any marks? Yeah, mark marks, little slap marks that last like this night maybe, but no no blood no no, no. Wiped out hair some some people pull hair too hard. You can pull hair a little bit, but you gotta do that right to know how to. Yeah, I've had my hair ripped out. I get abused man. Yeah, as you'll see this Thursday on Jigglos. I insured my penis for a million dollars. He's got them just I get beat up, man. I want to slapped me so hard she almost knocked me out.

I had a professional wrestling match a lot of man, I wouldn't want you when your face right. I do braziliandrod so as well. I'm a brown belt and I do M M A and all that. So they think that they could be rough with me and beat my ass up. Yeah, and I'm not bad boy's tattoo, so I can kick your ass. Hell no, don't bad tattoo. Yeah. I kind of wish I didn't take on that role, now you know I don't. I can getting beat up

way too much. When I was reading up on the company, I read that you've guys had over fifteen thousand UM employment requests and they've you You're only up to ninety five. So does that make you feel like you know show you special, very you made it through my life. Yeah for sure. Yeah, they're very special, very happy, very buling. You know it's great. Oh yeah, and Garen loves it when you send him penis pictures. So I love that unemployment for him and send him penis pictures once again.

Number four angels dot com. We actually have a website um email adjust for penis pictures as well. So Angie likes to Yeah, pretty dick Swagon Gmail. If you guys want to send your forward all those the guarant I'll pay you to that. I don't pay someone here to do that. What about like a thousand penis pictures in

a day? Oh my god? What about pictures at he's women allowed to take pictures and stuff like that with you, like if if they're laying in bit, like I want to say, I try to keep it as private as as possible. You know, on the side, No, he's not private. Yeah, you know, well about half and half of the clients. About half the clients watch the show and you know they're kind of fans to and they want to take a picture and usually I do that outside of the bedroom.

But like, you can't be laid up like me and I don't know. I don't ever post pictures when when I'm with another girl or a client or anything like that, because I don't want to make anybody jealous. Do girls ever like be with each other? Like, oh, I've seen such and such put up a picture with you? Are you sucking her? Oh? No, one more time? Like some of your other clients, like, maybe they'll see another girl post a picture with you. Do they ever actually like

to post them up? Um? So it's usually just fans who come up to me. If you ever see me with a girl, it's usually it's so not a client. So you don't take a picture with a client, but you would ask, I'm not the posted. What about family gathering? Yes, family gathering like listening and so I need you to pretend that you're my fiance. I want you to come in my family on Thanksgiving? Have you done that? Not too much of that? Um, trying to think, and he

brought up the weddings and stuff too. I don't think I've done too much that. No, that's not that common. Usually they're in Vegas. They want to have time, you know, you's gathering or it's me and her going off to you know, to Hawaii, or what if a girl said, can you can you urinate on me? Do girls ask for stuff like that to be pretty tight for me to do something like that? I think I don't think i'd be if that's what she really wanted. No farting,

no farting the line. Maybe, I guess. I don't know. I've been been asking. Nobody asked them no, no, no. The golden shower thing too, and it's I mean, you're you're in sanitary too. It's not the biggest thing in the world, and it's warm. I guess I don't know, but that's that's the big turn on right a little bit. I don't know where it's like shooting something out of it.

Oh my god, what are some things you said no to? No, I haven't been paid on either, Uh, no to somebody asked me to pee on them ones you didn't do it. I would have did it all Like, Okay, my baby daddy told me that I peid on him. But I really had an accident. Well I squared it, but I didn't know that I squared it. I was so young, I didn't know what was going on. But in hindsight, I was like, oh, I didn't peel you're embarrassed. No, he told me about people, and I like, I pee

on you your girls. As I grew up, I realized that back then when he said that that it really was just that I had squirted on him. Guys love when you squirt on them grows. She's like, yeah, I can't control it. It happens. Like it happens and ruined it too, Like, yeah, who sleeps in the poddle? But you're in hotel because I mean, it's not like it's in your house. As long as you're bad. It feels

good though, that's good. It happened, just feels nice. So you said that you don't really date much in your regular life, right, but do you like you don't want to at all? He doesn't it happens. I mean, she's got to be pretty special though, you know, I get my fixed. I like, I love dating. I like who doesn't like going out and going to a nice dinner or a movie or a show, and you know, having fun and doing everything else that you know you're doing

a relationship or traveling. But you know, I kind of I get my fixed from the job. You get more than your fix. I was about to say that you get your fixed really fat Patrick? All right, well, giglo uch Thursday nights right on show Time. More episodes this season, but Garen's been saying, you can download a Showtime app for like a free month and all the episodes are on there. I'm gonna I'm going to watch them. I don't want anybody watching it. And you guys, I'm talking

about that. You guys can learn a lot about women, what women want. Okay from what guys? How? How seriously are you about your music career though? Is that something that you would say, Okay, so serious? Now? I wasn't at the beginning, you know. I told them that I was a rapper to get on this reality show, which I wrapped my whole life. But then they're like, okay, rap. So I'd come up with some really puts together some music, and I put together Giggilow, which is it's a solid song,

but it's nowhere near to what I'm doing. Now, that's really He hadn't had a song called I Gotta. I got an awesome review about my song from Variety saying it was better than His Treasure. Yeah, yeah, that was cool, but um no, I just we fight. I just did the music video to that too. That's that's my baby. And I produced, and I put a lot of blood, sweat and tears and just hours and hours of writing.

I'm really complex with my rhyme structure and and I studied English and I was I focused on creative writing, So I mean, I just have just studied our language and putting words together, and uh, you can really see that in the song. It's motivational music. I got a new track called No Competition coming out as well. What a perfect mail specimen. That's like my son's father, he stave. He's an incredible rapper. Like my son's father is a really good rapper. Alright when I want to plug him,

but he's a good rapper. We thank you so much for coming by and hanging out with us. Thank you, ladies, thank you. It's seven