Episode 406: Not for Consumption (Feat. Doe Boy)

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Well, first of all, thank you for pulling up, thank you for having me, and congratulations on everything Cleveland's own.

We were just talking about my boy Steph.

Lawsyout DJ stuff, and I see a lot of people are investing in Cleveland right now too.

Yeah, Cleveland having our wave right now, there's finally our turn. I feel like, yeah, yeah, I feel like everybodys been sleeping on us. Our whole life is.

Key from Cleveland right here.

Yeah.

Yeah, I went to I remember the first time I went there. I was in the club and he actually came to the club too.

Yeah, he'd be outside, he'd be outside. Yeah, I just he was just in my hood the other day without me. I wasn't there. He was, for sure.

And you just put out a new song, Roll the Dice with Daves Low.

Dage Loaf has not really done any features we and yeah, how did that happen?

Collabing with Days was always like on my bucket list, Like when I was in jail, I used to listen to her project to Sell Soul. I used to listen to it all the time. I'm like, man, she's so hard. But when I came home, she like started falling back a little bit right, and I'm like, man, damn, I gotta get to her though. But she always had just like following me on Twitter and shit, and I always follow her, but we just never like like we had say shit to each other here and there, but we

Wow, that's been in the studio.

The fastest peachy'all ever got back every in my life.

She was ready.

Yeah, hell yeah.

But I feel like everybody likes a dough boy feature right about now.

You got it like a dough boy feature.

Okay, So okay, so let's talk about this. You said, what were you in jail for it? When you were locked up?

Dang, I mean you brought it up.

Yeah, I was in jail for a robbery in the shooter.

So okay, that's time we all evolve and grow from certain things.

So what happened, what happened.

I was just young and just bad. Yeah, so, you know, just doing some dumb ass ship.

And what it being.

And because I feel like people I know who went to jail, they always feel like they did learn things and maybe it prevented something worse from happening to them.

Yeah, definitely. I feel like jail saved my life though, like I needed to go to jail, Like I feel like like while I was going through it, I didn't feel that way when I when I finally got through it, and I'm like and I look back at the ship, I'm like, man, I'm glad I did for real, for real, because it really made me stop and really thinking, really appreciate what I got going on and just realized, like, bro, you you could be a whole superstar, but you still

Yeah, definitely was your bed.

I was sayingenced to four years, but I ended up doing like two years and eight months. Bad Listen, I.

Did ninety days on Rackers Island, and I feel the same as I was twenty two years old at the time. But when I came out, I came out a whole different person, Like I really took that time to reevaluate my life and the decisions I was making. And from the time I came out, my life was nothing but up. So I can definitely relate to that for sure.

So that's what made you said I got to really buckle down and get serious.

Yeah, hell yeah, Cause it's like when your light flashed in front of your eyes, just sitting in there and just seeing all the ship that I'm missing out on, and I swear to God, And it used to be moments like I would be sitting on my rack and like future being on Jimmy Kimmel, and I'd be like, man, damn man, like I'm supposed to be right there, like I'm supposed to be a part of this, and everybody say it too. They be like, yo, dumb mass, make.

Sure yo dumb man.

Again.

So you are already signed when you went to jail, Yeah, hell yeah? Did you Were you nervous that people would abandon you? Because I know that's a fair too, as far as like just kind of be like, Okay, this is too much of a problem. We got to move on Like yeah, not not really though, because like it's just the way the way this free band shit is.

Him off, Like would you feel me? He still be right there, He's still gonna stand behind this shit no matter what.

But what was that? How did that get to that point for you?

Like how did y'all relationship even get to that point where he was like because like you said, a future don't sign a lot of people. We don't see him standing behind people like that, But how did that happen?

I was just real persistent, like because I had it said in my mind, I want to sign with him, like that's my favorite repport I'm signing with.

That he tricked him out of his phone.

Number, oh god, I did, But like I was on his ass like sending them songs and just really like, hey, look here, I'm really trying to focus you though, Like I don't even I don't want to do nothing else at this point. I want to be free bands like and he just like, man, you know what, fuck it. But at the time, like we just had we had the same manager.

Yeah too, but that came after the fact type ship like you mant yeah, exactly, big to do that, yeah, like future a different kind of nigga though, But you know, at the end of the day though, like I said, though, this ship family, and like I wasn't really worried about like him about a band of the nigga.

I knew when I came on and she was gonna still be right here.

All right.

So then you came home and then how did things flow for you? Because everybody be working with you, everybody, everybody loved them. The whole industry loved exactly.

That's what it is though, because I just keep it so real with a nigga, like like you gotta fuck with a nigga, Like I don't. I don't be on that that that we'll rap nigga ship like, so when people meet me, they just be like he different now.

Let's talk about how that translates over to the ladies then, because you could be like that in business with the guys.

Okay, but are you that real when it comes to the.

Wait for you? You know where you're at.

About you? But they be like, I really fun with him, man, he just keep it so real.

They do. Actually they love me like the same way because I just keep it so real, Like I'm just like that all the way around the board with everything. Okay, yeah it's not. It's not just you know, just on this side on the person's all around the board. This is how I'm coming.

Okay, So let's people actually thought when you and Dave's Loaf did the song together that Joe was dating. I saw people on social media. We knew it was a song, but people were like, are they together? Because to this day cute little messages.

The problem in the society that we live in is they put a man and a woman together and automatally assume as sexual.

Well, they was doing some little sexy tweets back and forth, though that's also hyping it out for the song.

Yeah, we was just promoting the song.

You know what you was doing?

What you mean now, I'm just saying you knew that you that y'all was promoting a song and that that helped.

Fish a little.

Yeah, that's all it was.

So it's being with you or you gotta roll the dice to be with you.

Yeah, take your chance.

But once you're in your in, yeah for sure.

See like like you probably gonna like at the end of the day because I know how girls. Girls look at niggas. Y'all don't trust niggas, and y'all y'all automatically think niggas ain't ship.

Yeah, I smart, but you do the wrong thing for your work.

Take red flax for you to Yeah, that's crazy.

People many red flags, but go ahead and talk about yours.

I don't got no red flex. I don't do that wrong.

Oh that's a lie. That was the red flag.

I feel like I am but but but at the end of the day, I know I ain't doing okay, okay, So but I feel like I am all right.

So what would women who have dated you say? Would they say that you're perfect?

Yeah? They sound perfect to a certainerstand the only thing, the only thing they say about me is probably like I have been told that I was manipulative before. Okay, I can see, but I'm not really manipulative because I don't. I don't do things is to manipulate. I just really just say I feel like I don't like it's not a manipulation thing. It's just keeping it like I don't. I'm not trying to manipulate you.

I feel like you're trying to manipulate us right now.

I'm I'm really not. I'm really not, but I'm not. I can't really say I ain't gonna have no real flash because I might feel like that. But if you start fucking women, you probably not gonna feel the way I feel like.

What would a women's complaint be about you? That you hear the most that that women complain that.

Sometimes sometimes I can get a little mean. I can say that you have patience, I got my patients bad, but I do. It depends because I am patient, but sometimes I'm not. Okay, it depends on the situation.

Generous.

I'm very generous because.

I feel like they're really generous and they're intellectual.

They like to think, think thing think.

But and that will cause a problem because you expect the same treatment for yourself, you know.

Yeah, see I can't. I can't be with no girl who not a thinker though. Yeah, like if she don't, if she don't got like a brain on her, I can't funk with her like she gotta go.

Same my brother that I always talk about, he's the aries like I've learned everything from him. He taught me my history. If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't even know my saying.

I kind of got He was very nice, very generous, and we actually enjoyed each other's company. But I had to cut him off because he was a dodo.

Bird exactly that. It is a turnoff.

It's a turn off, that was it.

You feel like a girl needs to check you sometimes?

Oh yeah, always, okay, always if you feel like I'm tripping.

Hell yeah okay, and now you good at receiving that, Yeah for sure. Now okay, so let's talk about roll the dice for a second. The song with Dage Loaf. You don't fell in love with it demon? Why are you a demon? I said, I'm a because.

I'm I'm a street nigga, like I'm a demon in that kind of way. So when I say you fell in love with a real demon like you, you gotta acceparate thing that come with me. Like I live my life a certain kind of way, so my brain is programmed a certain one kind of way. So like it's certain things I might make, you're gonna have to change the way you live your life so.

You won't change yourself.

No, I'm I'm a change. But see I'm an adjust to you. But you gotta adjust to me too.

It's called compromise.

So it's just certain things that I don't like, like with me being a street nigga, is I got I don't trust nothing, like I said, Okay, that's so yeah, let's not record this, Let's not do this. Let's just move a certain kind of way. And she'd be like, you know what the fuck like.

Nigga, right, Like, let's not post pictures while we here, Let's let people know where we're going like that, Let's not let people know. Have you been on vacation with the woman before?

You know? It's crazy. I still ain't never left the country.

What can you?

I can't Now. I got my passport, When did you get it? I got it a year ago and still.

Stand that thing?

Oh no, I think I want to go to Turk first.

I got great connections and Turks for you.

Oh my god, but Drake and you're cool with Drake, so yeah no. But honestly, like I got a whole lot of friends in Turks. And when you go to Captain Oaks Tiki bar, right, that's what that's the bar, that's where like Dirk, b Drake, all of them. I know the guy that Oki shout out to Oak where you go let me know? And my boy on the studio out there too. Oh yeah right, no, I promise that.

If that's the first place you go, that's set in the bar because really beautiful.

They got a new hookah spot out there. They got some nice Turkey glass spots and restaurants. Are You're gonna have so much fun?

I had a big birthday trip oh Turk okay chairs to you.

Yeah, I had a big birthday trip to Turks a few years ago.

What you're doing, Lea Water, I'm arguing with.

Uber o her food. She's like, where is my food?

No, I'm not.

It's because he keeps calling me. I don't need to answer it. I gave him perfect instructions that I don't need to say. We're on where we're recording, but you know where to go the food.

It's really simple. So when I leave here, I can't wait.

Are you going to bring a woman with you to turch Are you going to go on vacation on your own with your boys.

By myself? Yes, you can go to church with my boys.

You can go with a woman, go for a man. I ain't gonna lie.

And then whenever Drake goes in, they always you can see his his private jet.

So people be like, oh, they didn't listen.

To the house that we stayed in for my birthday my fortieth, he was there before we We had to wait for him to leave before we were able to get into the house because he was there.

Oh wow, going on.

Yeah, so listen you when you gonna your boy do.

A couple's trip, like everybody has their girlfriend, it'll be good.

Yeah, yeah, that's why.

Yeah, because I think it's kind of like the way it is. You might be bored just the two of you.

Have my girl bring her girls and.

Yeah, remember your guys, you have a girl. Take to that to their shout out to do girl, jeezy.

Crazy, You're gonna get on.

You knew where he was coming. You definitely knew where you were coming.

I got a girlfriend something like it?

Something like it? What is is a situation?

There's a woman in his life that he's very fond.

Of, or is it like the last guy was the last guy met? He was dating someone but it wasn't his girlfriend, but he was dating her. He's given her a chance, but he's still wanted.

To have this.

Oh oh that's very what was it?

I missed it? Keeps dating somebody and want to give her chance, but he still wanted to tap that.

Oh, but he was still trying to be respectful to that.

You know, guys gonna lock you, you'll be like, you know, it's a situation, so I can still do so they can still Yeah, no, that ain't I don't do that though.

Okay, So what's complicated.

Because I'm a very honest person, Like I'm straight up and down, like I ain't gonna i ain't gonna lead you this way and then I'm gonna tell you what it is?

Jump, But what is that telling her what it is?

Because that's that's like a very what isn't what it is?

If I'm on bullshit, I'm gonna tell you I'm on bullshit, Like if I'm you can't be too like if if like I ain't, I ain't one of them niggas Like I ain't, I ain't gonna tell you what you can't do, and I can do anything. I'm not like that.

So if you find out she was talking to other people, you'll be okay with it.

How can I get mad at that and you're still the same. Yeah, yeah, because because if we're not together, then you don't owe me that, like until we all the way locked in me, do your thing you. I want you to do that so you can see that you don't mean.

Super meant to be super possessive over me.

Like if I'm fucking with a guy and he doesn't like he's okay with me, like dating other guys even being friends with other guys, hanging out with them, it's a total turn off.

For me for real. Or you don't like when your nigga let you do it.

No, even if we're not together, if we're having sex, I need you to not want anybody else around me, don't I'm not I don't.

Want to see. But just the thing though, I'm not saying that I don't want like because I don't.

Because you're not okay.

No, listen, I'm not okay with it, and I don't want you to do it. Please don't do it, okay, But I can't be mad at that because that's not fair.

You don't want to know about it.

You can't be because come on, that's not the girl like the girl you being.

Even if I don't want to know about it, because I do want to know about it, but don't put don't. I don't want you to do it, but you can't get mad at me if I do it.

In other words, I ain't gonna question has gone through your phone?

No?

Do you play that hell going through the phone thing?

Who does not going to my phone?

I'm very I'm very like, I'll be on my p's and q's. You ain't getting it my phone.

You know, it's so crazy that situation. I just said, like, had a situation. They're just dating.

They're just dating.

I'm like, it sounds like it's your girlfriend, we're just dating. But he still wanted to tap. I'm like, nah, because if you tap me, like I'm we go together and that's that.

But then he didn't want me to do it.

But check this out. Homegirl called my phone?

What?

She actually texts me from his phone?

One night because I hit him up like hey, like I had him hit him up for a while. Hit him up and I was like, hey, what's dope to go out? Me and Kalida, me and Melissa Frian was out. I was like, Yo, what's a good spot to go out in the city or whatever? Me and my girl want to go out. I didn't get a respond to like twelve o'clo. Like by then, I was drunk, you know. She called and it wasn't nothing, it was just the truth. She like, I guess she was the one texting me back.

Going on or whatever. I was like, oh ship, I'm that last lap and she rode back. What did she say? She was like, let's link up, and.

I'm like cool.

But I'm saying cool and some I'm like, a cool, I'm not having sex with this guy. I already said I'm not going to have sex with you if you're dealing with somebody else. I was like, I cool, I'm here with my girls.

It was her. Then my phone started ringing and I answered and she's like hello. I was like hi.

She was like who is this I was like, uh, yeah, number I guess yeah.

She was texting.

I don't know.

They must have been done tipsy too, because it was kind of like, why are you even allowing her to grab your phone and text?

Your telling me didn't know he.

Probably was sleepy, said no, he was right there because he put him on the phone.

She put him. I was like, listen, that's I told her. I was like listen.

She was like, this is girl. I was like, girl.

I was like, well, last he told me he was dating someone, but it's nothing serious. They're just dating getting to know each other.

I was like, me, and why he lied?

He lied to me? He was if this girl is picking up your phone and on your phone, she got.

But I did I text back after the fact.

After that, yeah, I would have just been like, yeah, that's y'all.

On her side. But she went wrong.

She was like this.

She was like, oh, so we're just dating, right, And you hear him in the background. She was like, well, tell her what I am. He's like, man, that's my girl. I said, all right, but you wasn't staying that. But that's cool because me and you ain't fucking like we're cool and I was, but I was drunk.

So have you ever got caught cheating douboy.

Mm hmm. Not not that kind of cheat, not like a girl.

Damn, just a little time.

You don't cheat because you're honest, because men don't cheat.

What about okay, because he's honest, he's letting people, you know what, they're getting themselves involved then, and they're choosing to be involved or not.

When you were holding you down while you was locked up, or did you have like multiple questions?

I think while I was locked up, I don't funk with her no more. The girl that I was working with before I was locked up, Okay, I don't funk with her no more since I came home.

Would you expect somebody to be faithful to you or would you rather they just do them and then you worry about it when you come home.

Because I'm gonna be realistic, I just rather you just tell me what's going on, because I know you're not about to not do nothing for three years?

Is that what happened with pretty much?

Like I just know you're not about to do that.

Okay, fair enough, that's a long time do that for three years?

No?

You know, you know me?

And when my ex girdfriend got locked up.

She tried though, Yeah, but I told him the truth.

I was like, I'm definitely gonna but you can do that.

Just don't go. Don't fall in love. Yeah, you just don't fall in love on men. You could do what you want to do because I understand you got ship.

You need to What was our relationship before you went in and that depends we.

Was in love when it was rocking, like this was my man.

Yeah, she tried to come back around after hell yeah.

What won't stop?

Won't stop?

Can't Stop't you going to block it all?

Like?

Did she go to the visit here?

When I came home and she was like like I was still.

But did she like did she answer all your calls and go on all the visits?

No?

I don't know.

Actually she ain't even visit me once? What I am?

Okay, No damn she did? She still hit it when you got terrible, I'm gonna give you a visiting. So but I ain't holding down no big somebody.

Else definitely not going to be. I'm not going to stop my life, but I'll definitely hold you down.

Like at least when I come home, the niggas gotta go.

Can't nobody tell me ship?

I want to know for holding somebody down and jo just don't expect me to start my life.

Do your thing when I come home. That shit stop.

So if you're in a relationship right that, you love the girl whatever and she cheats on you, but the pussy good, would you still funk with him?

Yeah?

Okay, so you're not thinking, you know, I feel like you're just not trying to be in nothing serious right now.

You're having a good time living life.

Didn't even that I ain't trying to be in that serious because I am, though, like I do, like I do want to, like you know, I don't.

Exactly if you're if you're anything like your zodiac flying y'all, everything is serious.

Yeah, like I don't. I don't. I prefer like to be in a relationship like I would rather.

Be in keep out of trouble.

Yeah yeah, like I rather I like chilling for like I don't like being on. I do like it's fun and ship to.

Be with somebody who loves you, somebody everything.

Just the craziest thing a girl ever did to you, like if she caught you talking to other Like, what's the craziest thing that happened?

Because I feel like, you know, I made some women go crazy.

Pulled up to the spot where Damn, that's crazy because like one of one of the situations that happened, and ship my nigga, my nigga was in a relationship too, and we both was though. But I actually I really wasn't even know, no bullshit for real, but he was. But our girls was the girls that they were. We was, we was we will.

Tell me what he's doing.

You we was out at the bar and we was with these two other girls. But our girls was with each other. And then his ass got on live. He was trying to make his girl mad.

I was in trouble and fire.

You got me and trouble.

Why should he do that? So what he was hurt? So what do they do?

They they was in the park, but they didn't come inside.

I would have came inside.

I would have came.

I would have been like, oh, that's my she came inside, surprising.

I don't know. I don't know that.

What was the other Who was the girl he was with?

Like?

Who was she to you?

Was it just a random or it was you was a little something happening.

No, No, I just really just met her. I really just met her, Okay, really just met her.

Yeah, so everything said who would you go home with?

Damn?

That was crickets.

Damn because at the time, she actually the girl that I was with who I got in trouble for, she actually ended up dropping me off. I was still living at my mama house, so she dropped me off at my mama house. Your mom, yeah, yeah, and.

The other one picture up.

No, what does your mom tell you about women and dating?

Like?

What did you learn from her?

That's why? That's why I think I treat women good though. Okay, yeah, so I like I'm very respectful and shit like that, Like I don't really just be dog and girls and shit like like no, but I think that's come from me being the only child and just like growing up with my mom and shit. So I know how to treat the woman.

But you seem like a very sweet person.

Yeah I am. Okay, people think I'm just fucking evil and women. Now, I ain't gonna say women just the world.

Yeah, I feel.

And the reason I know that because a lot of people fuck with you, like even just to do for you to come up here, which we were excited to have you, of course because of who you are already. But everybody say, yo, here man cool, you gotta have dough boy hunt. So we were excited for you to come here. But even artists wise, just the people that you've collaborated with, like everybody, and you can move in all different kinds of circles.

That's a skill because we got definitely it's like this ship, this ship, like it being a whole nother kind of way, like shit, you know, I can't really you know, I ain't gonna I ain't nothing to talk about, you know, but at the end of the rap game, respect me type ship. So that's what's really going on. Type ship, Like it's real, it's genuine love, but it's a respect thing type ship, like motherfuckers know.

That's what's up.

So what's one person that because you've worked with so many people, it was one person that you still feel.

Like you would like to work with.

Oh yeah, I feel like that's happening though about I feel.

Like that's gonna come. It's gonna come.

Because you've been said that. And then I saw when you came to New York.

You was posting like you was in the car listening to fifty and you definitely seem like the type of person fifty would gravitate to it.

Yeah for sure.

Yeah, so I've had conversations. No, I never talked to him really, this got it happened.

Yeah, fifty was one of our very first interviews.

Yeah, actually we did a pilot and fifty cent was our guess and it was hilarious.

And yeah, they literally like made him bite. They'd be like, he got a game.

Yeah, he was here for so First of all, fifty loved talking about relationships and sex. To be honest, he does. Like it's fun for him to have those discussions and he's I mean he's locked in now, but prior to that, he was on Demon time too, probably of course.

Yeah.

And then look and so many people embrace you. So you ended up and we see like people listening to your music and then they want you to pull up to the studio. And then even like with Drake, that had to be a crazy situation because that's Drake.

Yeah, yeah, hell yeah, that was that was a It's so crazy though, like even even the whole story when me and him even did our song, because me and Drake, we was working with each other for a minute before we even work together, did that. Hell yeah, it was just on soon cool. Shit like I ain't even never ask him for a song. I ain't even want that the way to do it. I just waited till it

He was in there.

He was in there, wow. And he sent me a video, send me a video of a song. He's like, I need you to do.

This right when you Like, I was just literally just watching.

I was watching his story like I was about the.

Nigga about he was that's wow.

No, he ain't even he don't even let you ain't seeing it. No feature, He's about to pull up on you. He had me come to the crib.

Yeah, l A, I see he's selling off. So what was that experience like being there?

Like how does that ship?

Was hard? Just seeing like how he moved, Like I'm like, damn, he really on some president ship. When you pull up to his ship, the guard waiting at top of the driveway, I'm like, yeah, I can wait my ship like that. Then you pulled down another guard in the middle of the way. Nobody another gard Barack Obama. That's your heart?

Yeah, yeah, because think about like where your life has taken you. You know, from what you've been through being in Cleveland and then you know going through it linking up a future and then you know, going through what you went through like you said, I got to drop you off at your mom's house.

She was still with your mom. And then look at where you are now. Don't that feel like a blessing?

That's crazy as facts?

That's great.

So what's the new album b's going to be like? Because we've heard that one single so far with Day's Loaf, So what else has happened?

Because everybody worked with.

You, like we said, you're taking us on a journey dollar time back to part one?

What else asking you.

About like music? They didn't they Yeah, we got it.

Okay, Yeah, I mean I like that one that what I asked about. What you like get back with someone that cheated on you? Have their pussies good because you mentioned something?

Yeah, yeah for sure, Like I ain't gonna say, I ain't never forgave a girl.

For all right, So you'll get back with a girl.

You guys said what you said, But I mean, are you gonna trust her the same?

Are you gonna hold her?

No, I ain't gonna judge.

You're gonna forget, but you ain't gonna forget for sure.

That's what I'm saying. That's why you ladies out there like.

On your soul.

Like a girl ain't never just came out and told me nothing always found that ship. So it's like you act like.

You deny if they find out.

Deny, I don't when I find out, I ain't even coming at you until I got concrete. I'm I'm gonna sit on it. I'm gonna way, I'm gonna let it all stack up, and when I come at you, I'm coming.

I feel like, guys don't want to know that stuff. You don't want to said. We're gonna go through your ship. We're gonna find everything.

Man, right there, y'all impulsive.

I feel like this. I feel like even for the man's mental health. Do you care about this man?

Don't let him find out that you're doing other things. It's just they don't like it. It changes everything. It does, that really does.

What was the tour? What was going on tour?

Like? For you? What the last one we just did? Y? Yeah, tour was lit? Though it was lit. It was definitely a hell of a experience, like just to be able to perform an arenas every night and ship like that, like it's a good experience. Like, but if you're talking about all that type, I was chilling. I actually was chilling.

How did you get ready for shows?

Because I do think where artists like they got to pay a lot of attention to what their stage show is like because people listen to your music, but to see a live it's a whole other experience. You get hot. But so how did you get ready for that whole going on tour and everything?

Mm?

These are arenas you gotta run around?

It ain't no, it really it really wasn't. Even. Man, A lot of the times when it's time to do a show, I literally is just as soon as I leave my hotel room. I'm walking. I'm coming to the show as soon as it's time for me to get on stage. So I'm really about to be back there backstage ten minutes. I'm about to chill, I'm about to simp a little bit and then go to the stage. Like it ain't really like a.

Whole prot No, hell no, why not you should?

No, no, no, that's why do it for me?

Okay, Yeah, you just want to show up like I show up and the handle my business.

Yeah.

Period, what's different about this new album that you have coming? Because it feels like already this is a different type of vibe for you.

It's really just showing my growth as a person, like and in my music you can hear the growth, you can you can hear the growth is me growing up, like like I'm almost I'm about to be thirty. But I'll really be thinking about that. I'm like, man, damn, bro, you really not a You're not a You're not a young nigga.

No more like that's a blessing though with them, And.

I'm glad, knowledge glad. I'm really glad because I ain't I ain't like how it used to be, Like I really used to be like I ain't have it all and it's just now I'm just I'm just so bossed up, Like the money really just made a nigga just all right, bro, shit the fuck.

Down, like because you got a lot to lose, but you don't have nothing to lose.

You could be you know, there's a lot of the life all.

The time, people outside all the time acting wild.

They just what's something you know now that if you knew then.

Like now now, I really got it in my head that this ship only go in this way or that way, you're either gonna die or you're gonna go to jail. Growing up, I always heard that motherfucker tell me that. Believe it. It's like that ship gonna get there and not the other. Yeah. But then just the older you get, and I tell your niggas all the time, like I'm one of them niggas, like if I if I don't even gotta know you, if I just see you doing some dumb ass ship, I'm gonna be like, hey, bro,

Exactly what age do you think that you actually matured like that you really started thinking?

And and I can't I'm gonna be all the way honest, like I ain't even gonna say like it wasn't even really when when I even when I came home from jail, right like I knew, I knew that I can't be doing certain shit and I was moving way smarter. But I'm not gonna say I didn't have my slip up because I'm not perfect doing so and habits. I have done a lot of dumb shit like, but it ain't been that bad.

It ain't.

I ain't like how as bad as I like I did dumb ass ship. But but now the point that I'm at now, hell no, but I'll say probably when I was like twenty seven.

So recently.

A couple of days ago, because I have a twenty two year old son, an amazing kid, amazing kid, and I just.

Got to call it day a car was crashed again.

Damn how many times you're gonna crash? Period?

But you know what I'm saying, And I just like people say I enable him or I don't. You know what I'm saying, you got to stop always being there for him, And I don't believe that because I feel like boys, specially and especially in days that we're given right now, they grew up in different ways, you know what I'm saying, They mature at different times.

Listen.

So I definitely feel like the fact that you're saying, outside of free bands and.

The record, who did you have?

You feel growing up that kind of like always had that foot on you, like telling you and you just didn't listen.

You know, sometimes you need somebody that like.

Mama, That's why I'm a ride and people everybody telling me to you enabling.

Him, don't, don't, don't, don't give up on him. I'm I'm gonna tell you I'm on some real ship. When when my mama used to she would get so frustrated with me. She had kicked me out like she but that's what made me worse. That's when I really start doing bad ship.

Like that, My god, that's when I really she don't care.

I was already and I ain't gonna say that. I felt like she didn't care. It was more so that you making me so mad. I'm so mad right now. I'm finna go outside and I'm finna terrorize it.

I think because everybody the first thing they tell me it is like, Laura, you know you you you enabled him, like he knows that he always got you.

Like listen, at the end of the day.

The world that our kids are living in right now, I think it's a little more difficult then back then. The pressure is a little bit harder, you get what I'm saying. They're seeing more things that we didn't see back then. Like I really feel like we were really living like there was no.

And then even just trying to communicate, like were you able? Were you good at communicating with my mom? Because sometimes that's hard. That's the part that I'm scared.

My communication was always fucked up. You know. My mama even tried to put me in like therapy and shit like that, Like she tried everything to try to get through to me, like it had been times where I didn't been at school, and she then went through my shit, found a gun and then took my phone like I'm goin to send the police to your school. She wasn't really gonna do it, but just shit like that though, And I'd be like, I get the fuck up out

But she you're her only child exactly, is a single single mind. Yeah, so what that is for her like trying to raise a boy a man exactly on her own, and she don't know how to handle that.

I don't know what I would.

Do, especially at them at them one ages, and ship like a nigga really be uncontrollable, right, Like, like, man, I'm talking about when I was like thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, you.

Had about her a house. It's eighteen house?

What my mama super like? Yeah, No, that's why. That's why now I don't tell her now, like I never tell her. No, you know what she probably what like no matter what I never told her. Now, do you have any kids? Yeah, I got a son.

Okay, how about is he he know, all right, so he's nine years old?

How is he as a Because he's a good kid, you got to pray that he don't be like how you.

Know, he's not, he's not. He like it. He real smart and he just he don't he don't want to be in the streets like he just the kids shit, like he a TikToker.

Like yeah, that's a whole nother thing that streets Internet.

You know, my son is is sixteen, gonna be seventeen, And I just feel like our boys, like you said, don't let people tell you that you're enable and your son spoil him.

Let him do as much as.

You ain't gonna lie.

I'm not buying the order and two paste and none of that. You twenty two.

But I'm gonna always keep.

A roof over your head, you know, always make sure you go. I'm never gonna set you out in the streets. I'm never gonna sit here.

That's like that's like saying to the wolves. That's like sending you to like I'm not doing nothing. He don't want to be outside, like already you go.

Because it's going to fall back on like, you're gonna feel so bad if you don't put him on the streets and then something go wrong, You're gonnaeel.

Like, first of all, I had him at sixteen, s already put him in a situation where I was a child.

He than a child. You understand what I'm saying. So I wasn't maturing myself.

So he's already like starting per you know, And I can't even say per society, like I know that I wasn't necessarily the best person I could be as a mother.

Was you get what I'm saying.

I was a child.

I didn't have my mom or my dad to even show me what it is to like it's a lot of shit.

I ain't gonna lie. I'm learning now that I'm learning from friends.

I'm learning from Angela like people, you know, so just I could never do that ship.

To my child, especially my boys.

I think our kids. Is that a little bit more to be a little more spoiled? Yeah?

Do you does your mind meet the women that you date?

Do you bring?

Yeah? Yeah, she met all of them, all of them. I didn't. I don't got you said that, Like, I've just.

Been in a million relationships, done.

A good question. Yeah, she do got a favorite. She got a favorite.

And if you stop talking to a girl that your mind, stop talking to them too.

Yeah. No, no, actually no.

Mother's Day.

Actually know she'd be hitting them up? She yeah.

Does she ever have talked to you like? Now, listen, you gotta treat this this.

Lady right, she she always do that? Though she do that with every woman that that I ever brought to her type? Ship?

Would she invite one to a family event?

Despite I can't say that because I don't even go to family Damn, we don't know. I mean my family we don't do that.

We don't even have like reunions and nothing.

We don't even do that.

Ship, you should set it off. You have a family reunion.

Man, that she's gonna be trouble. Wow, what I don't even know. They're gonna be on my ass. We're gonna tear me apart. Hell already.

Now, boy, being that you are more mature now in many different ways, let's talk about what the ladies. Okay, do you make love or do you fu? I love that both both?

But what are you more apt to do?

Like with your lady?

Are you?

Are you gentle?

You do you tell her you love her during sexy.

Girl lady lady Yeah, hell yeah, like I love doing That's why I prefer to be in love with a girl when I'm her type ship like it just makes it better. So you could just not really just want to be extra nasty what you like, I'm literally gonna put your whole body in my mouth, like every piece of you.

Like my favorite guys are always the guys who say I love you the first time there with you.

I want to tell you this while you just gotta you know, you.

Gotta like I'm like, oh my god, I love you too.

Like like that.

Make it better.

You close your eyes, look at When you close your eyes, it's.

More like intimate because you're like.

Like you.

Ain't gotta look. She's gonna be she go overna be looking at you be looking? Do you hold back? Do you hold back?

Hold back is.

Like from coming too fast?

And how do you do that?

How do you hold back? Do you stop? Do you think about other things?

Yeah? Like no, you changed, like you try to switch it. You better not come like like you got yourself.

You gotta have a pep talk.

And then sometimes it's back far because then now the more you think about it, she gnawed, It'll be like I told myself that and then I didn't come fast enough, and then it's been it took me too long, and then you're not going to come out, and then it'd be like damn not She she feeling like, damn, nigga, you ain't come. Something wrong with me.

Right myself about it?

I'm told guys, bef, I was like, you bet not come like you be not?

That'll make him come?

Right?

If a girl ainything the.

It's literally everywhere because you if you say certain, ship to it like and vice versa. Like if I tell you to come, you're gonna come. Probably. I ain't gonna say probably you is a matter of fact. No, no, it gotta be. You gotta be doing it the right.

You know, have you been squirted on?

What? Of course?

Can you remember the first time it happened? Did you know what was going on?

A girl was squirted on my Facebook?

Was the first time I skirted it.

I didn't know, you see, I had no idea. I did it taste?

So you don't like it?

I ain't gonna say I don't like it, but it don't tat. It don't taste, but it.

Tastes like to taste.

Like like elfreda Stop.

I think, but they don't say it's salty. I was, I spurted in somebody's mouth.

I didn't. It's good I didn't.

Don't.

He caught it in his mouth.

And they ain't gonna tell you it's nasty. I'm not gonna tell you it's nasty that she don't taste.

It depends. Listen the girl happened, Can I say something? The girl who yeah, she never she don't know, don't You ain't gonna they never tried.

It tastes good as fun?

Well no, no, no, listen the girl who spurred it, who squirted it, and you didn't like to taste, she needs to change her die yet, that's what I'm saying, Like, my friend, that's because they should not taste bad.

It ain't even like it's like Lobo you gotta it's the same thing with because he needs to change his diet.

You are no, no, no, no, no, it's just that ship is not for consumption, human consumption, like you're not really supposed to Who said that?

Human not consumption?

Do?

Boy? Okay, it's very rare because you're probably used to doing that.

Ship though it's good for you.

You probably do that ship on the regular. What it is normal for you to feel good that you may have squat, Yeah, for sure. So listen to what I'm saying. If this ship don't happen all the time, Okay, this ain't just don't just squirt in your face like this ain't like an every time thing like when you sucking a nigga dick, he gonna come in your So you're used to that ship like so it's probably not nasty to you no more.

Listen to listen to what I just said. That case, my case scenarios.

Every every every man's ejaculation does not taste the same. Some of them don't taste like anything, taste like a spar gives. Some of them tastes like bleach. Some of them are softy, some more thick, some more things faced on what you consume, I'm telling you what you come. When you put it, it's gonna come.

Out like drinking piss like that is I like, it's just.

Like face person is yellow and something.

That is Yep, it's just that ship is pissed.

No matter, there's a little bit of pissing there. I don't think that I tell people that all the time, and I'm a spurt. Like you said, you nasty, so you good?

You like this show, I ain't gonna gonna be like, hell yeah, okay, a little toes.

He said, he why okay, he said, he's gonna put the whole body.

In his mouth when you're doing missing the yeah the foot right.

Yeah.

You like you?

You like your boss, play with.

You like I love my boss. But it's sometimes it tickle too much though, sometimes beat too much. Sometimes that should be too much, like you played with No, don't go down there.

Don't go down there, not even in between.

That is.

No.

I know what you're saying, but I don't really like you to be down there type ship.

Like what about your nipples?

No, I don't play with my nipples? Why not a lit That's just weird to me. That's too freaky freak.

To you, don't.

What's the one abnormal spot on your body that you like?

Yeah? I like that, Like that's not like that's not the normal with everybody else.

Nothing on my neck and fucking that's it though, Like.

How many tattoos do you have?

I don't know.

Too many, too many.

I've been trying to I mean, no such thing as too many, but too many to count because I asked, what was your first one?

This one right here?

What is that?

Pillsbury boy? You got a couple of.

You know what's so crazy? The story behind this ship is so crazy. Like I was really like I was ready to die behind this tattoo. What yeah, I had one hundred dollars. It was it was no listen, listen, I had one hundred dollars. And and we was at my nigga house and we were sitting in the driveway. It was like back in the day. He had like a magna like them bitches, was like it was fancy back

At first, but you almost died.

Yeah, that's stupid as fuck.

Wow, that's a very meaningful tattoo.

What so what happened to your boy? What's your most recent.

Ship on my leg?

Damn you guys tattoo? You're like your whole.

Huh, your whole body's tatting.

Yeah for the Yeah, my whole front. I just still got to get my back.

Okay, so you're not done?

Is on you?

I'm sorry on this side, Like I've been looking loyalty?

Yeah, this loyalty? What's I just say, Karen? Okay, okay, yes, m.

Any and that you were any tattoos that you regrett? No, and they all have a story and all have a meaning.

Yeah, what tattoos should really be about?

You know what people get?

When I was dancing, you know, I saw a lot of tattoos on naked bodies, and we used to call them the Macarena tattoos because girls habit to.

Here here, here, here, here, here, none of.

That, none of it makes no sense with all these Macarino tattoos.

You like?

Do you like the Ship Club?

It's cool sometimes.

Have you been in Magic City?

Of course?

IM about to say you've been around future too long, too much. And I think, you know, one of my favorite people in the world is escopposed to be like best friends. We used to be neighbors. It's that magic when he first started working there, and I think they made it for a long time actually, but me and him, me and him were neighbors and we became like really really really really close friends.

And he's like literally one of my favorite people in the whole world.

About to come back out.

He's very special.

Okay, So as far as the music business, right, some people can get really jaded. But for you, you know, what are your thoughts like as far as having real friends, because people will tell you, like, you know, no new friends, there is no real friends in the music business.

What's been your experience?

It's not It's definitely is these niggas not your friends. That's one thing I had to realize too, like like being in the game and just like dealing with a lot of different rappers, I had to realize, like these niggas really not your friends, because how I'm coming, Like I said, I'm a junie niggas who I'm coming there kind of way?

Like yeah, but when you real like that, you can you can detect it.

Yeah, fact, So it's just when you when you show me a certain flaw and I'll be like, all right.

Would you say your real friend, let's do the positive part of it, like who's who?

Would just say?

These are the people that's like in real life, even if I said, I ain't doing this ship no more than my still.

That I like deal with. Yeah, nigga like south.

Side, okay, south.

Friend, Like south Side like one of really my best friends my whole life. Yeah, like for real, Like that's one of the niggas I talk to every day on a daily basis, like about anything, Like hell yeah, south Side like her Like Yeah, niggas, certain niggas I funk with a different kind of way, Like we got like our we got like a little alliance and ship like.

We heard been here with you said that she didn't say a word one day.

That was the last time he was here.

Yeah. Yeah, it's rowdy, okay, niggas, Like you know, it's certain niggas that I do with like it's and it's more too, but you feel me, it's just a lot of a lot of niggas. I ain't everybody not your friends, right, that's everybody. Everybody should just notice, Like I know a lot of niggas don't really fuck me for real, but you're gonna act like you fun with me.

And it's just business for sure, and it and it just be like that ship.

Really it used to be like damn for real. It used to shock me because you know, I'm coming out the streets and I'm just not getting into this ship. And when I deal with a nigga, you know, yeah, but no, I just this ship is what it is like fun with your niggas.

Street business in the music industry is two different things. Absolutely.

I realized you got to separate that ship.

You can't really Just do you still live in Cleveland?

No? Hell?

No, okay, just asking. I don't know how, So when did you realize you had to leave?

I realized I had to leave when I motherfucking shit as soon as I start getting some money, that's right. I'm like, man, I outroot this place, like it ain't nothing more I could do here, Like I'm already the biggest ship, Like I'm big as I'm gonna be here.

How often do you go back?

Mm hmm, like every other month, Like it depends, like I don't. I ain't gonna say I be there a lot, but I be there though. Yeah, but you know I'll be having to do ship like I go back when I got shipped.

To do you know what I'm saying.

It's just different because in my city, like we're not a musical scene nor it's like it's not a lot of it's not a lot of money flowing through there or nothing. So it's like when I'm there, oh my doble in town, like it's a big deal, like I'm the one, So I can't just be there just like you know, And I also like keeping it rare, so when I pop up, it's a big deal. People be like, oh, ship don't be here?

What about.

Yeah? Yeah, facts facts, Bron changed my life. Bron made me rich, Like he played a big part of making rich explain that like that video he made dance to my song just really you know, it boosts my.

Stock And did you know him before that or he just did that because you from Cleve.

Like I didn't. Me and Brian ain't really talked before then for real, like but we always like through niggas like Flaws and the rich pause and you feel me. So bron always knew I was and of course I know who he.

Is, like.

So, but after he did that, we really just started like connected.

Ye hell yeah, what's the first thought when you saw like.

The post nigga? It's so crazy because I had the nigga. DJ Mill has sent me the video while I was in the studio, like the previous night, like the night before I had posted the video. I on the one who put it up first. He had recorded it from me. But I'm like, damn, that's crazy though, that because that was a real nigga shit because you ain't have to record that, you ain't even have to play that song.

And he knew what that was gonna do exactly.

He played the song knowing it was bron Ship. He played the song and recorded him dancing to it and sending to you. So That's why I always appreciate him for lif because you don't even have to do that because that whatever in the moment, nobody never would that's real. Yeah, hell yeah. He sent that brich to me, and then I'm like, I can't wait till the morning post out of here. Nice And I was in the process that I was negotiating my deal and that helped. I'm going

So what does success look like for you with this new album Busy on the way.

You're knife right?

Success look like this six nine? Okay, Nah, it's just just this album right here. It's just it's it's on a whole nother level. Like I said, like this ship really finished, like I've been that nigga. Let everybody know this and everybody want me to win, like everybody like when the album dropped, the gonna see like the whole world gonna support it like basketball players football. I don't

I think to celebrate, you gotta go get squirted on in terms of keos for your thirty workday.

Listen right there, I'm telling you it's gonna change your life. You're gonna want to go on vacation all the time, and you're gonna be.

Turning out even even like mm hmm, like bitches cream all the time type ship, like that's a normal thing. I don't even like the taste of that, but I do it.

Like I still listen, you need to find yourself to find you some women with better.

Gonna like the taste of it, but it's like I do, but I don't. You enjoy it, But I'm enjoy it in the moment.

That's nothing that boy, for real, We're gonna you need to find you some whomen with better.

And I not.

I'm right now in a drought.

But I have somebody who loves to eat the groceries just because they understand and they respect my journey.

Right now, the first thing that you.

Eat it ask so you like asked more than eating sound.

Like eating it more. But I'm definitely an ass eater. I sometimes I like eating the ass first. Make my way either way, I'm coming this way, I'm coming that way.

I do you even try that the time girl asked you to do that?

No, No, it's just it's just a thing like when I just get in that mode, I just get in that moment. What hell, yeah, gets over.

I didn't say I didn't like it, but I think it's overrated.

Some girls thinking overrated period.

To some people.

Some women do on Twitter bits really just on their complaining, talking about I don't like it like that all the time.

Saying that second one of my closest friends, she won't do it. Have you Okay? You eat as you do at.

No, I feel like, no, you never tried say I never tried it, but do it like, yeah, no, I don't do it.

Yeah, you got to prepare for that.

Yeah, that's some ships. You got your favorite position missionary.

Missionary confidence, missionary is your favorite. You're a lover guy because that means you her face he wanted to.

I feel like I feel like missionary make girls come the most like That's like I feel like I feel like because you at the same time you stimulating the click to like while you it's just you gotta know what you're doing. Missionary is like there's.

Just one guy.

There's this one guy. He knows exactly where to go to make me my whole ship meek like.

One.

I honestly feel like it might be the shape. Honestly, you can't. Honestly, it might be like the shape of your penis, Like is this straight?

Is it carve?

Do it go?

You have a curve a little bit?

Yeah, So that's that. That might be wide that you're making her come in missionary like that?

Do you consider yourself excised?

Or damn?

I gotta think about this.

How told you?

How big is your faith? So? Yeah, because they said we're not.

So My my theory, y'all know my theory.

My theory is that men who are in the five foot.

Range or tripods, do you think they got penis? Tripod?

Three legs? Tripod?

Okay, okay, okay.

How often do you masturbate?

I love mass babing. I love massing me too sometimes sometimes sometimes I prefer that or se wow. Sometimes if I.

Don't some better women in your life, I don't feel like these girls don't taste right. They have good time. You're not enjoying the pussy.

Enjoy and pussy though, like pussy tastes so good to me, like I enjoyed, Like I like you want to get squared like I'm all I was saying was that ship. Don't taste good? Salty, That's all I was saying, don't taste good.

It was the wrong.

It was the wrong pussy though, Like I like you pussy. I like pleasure in the girl, like I feel like you. I'd rather pleasure like I'd rather you. I don't even care if I come or nothing like. It ain't even about me. When I have sex, I do it for you.

Have your pa orgasm you have?

I have, Yeah, I have. I have did that before. Some girls be insecure about ship like that?

Are you loud when you came? Are you loud when you come?

You said I'm allowed when I come? Am I gonna make tell you? It depends if if I with you like that? If you just a big thing, I'm just working. I'm not gonna be.

Coming to you. Be quiet.

I'm not going you like to be slapped. No, you can choke me. I ain't doing nothing that.

What about spa you like go to spit your mount spin.

In my mouth, and I'm spinning yours. Two.

Okay, would you?

Would you? Yes?

It's like rapid fire over here. Right, well, listen, Thank you so.

Much for coming through, Thanks for having so The date is official, right six nine nine, June ninth.

I was like dropping off that.

Time he was reading it on the notes. It was sixth nine.

Yeah, I was thinking that, but I don't think that you're doing.

That easy June ninth, June Night, June ninth, twenty twenty busy and.

He loves sixty nine ladies and let son.

Juice in his face just makes you.

Drink your water water.

I cannot wait to see her with on this album.

You know the fact that you got Day's loaf out of here and like got heard in her mode.

I love that she's going crazy right now too.

Yeah, just listen.

Because motherfuckers like that, like you gotta put some respect on her name, like even me doing the ship with Days, it's for the culture, Like even Ship on my album, I got Ship. That's really for the culture. Like like what like I got real old school artists.

You're gonna be like, like, who give us a little something?

I can't. It's going, it's gonnau a surprise.

Well this he can tell us after we turn the mics off.

It's okay, all right, fine, turn them.

Off right now.

Thank you so much. I'm glad that you came up here. I hope that we get to see you again.

And congratulations and everything and all your success and success well deserved.

Keep going, appreciate success, congratulations on all your.

Love live service. I can't wait to come on here.

We appreciate you. We had a good time with you. We really did it.

Yeah, thank we appreciate you.

There is boy period.