Episode 403: Riding for Rookies (Feat. Toni Williams)

What us it is liftserver, Simon Angela yee, I'm Gigi McGuire.

I'm Jazzmine Brand, I'm Laura Mora.

And I'm Tony william Now if y'all don't know who Tony Williams is, she's very valuable, okay, for everybody, men and women, because you actually teach women how to ride riding for rookies, okay. And as in writing, we mean writing that dick.

All right.

So, and this is something that actually somebody had asked me this as an asked you question. She was saying that she was really self conscious about getting on top, and you know, she didn't know the right way to do it. But she also was self conscious about like her bobby and her body and how she looks. And I'm sure a lot of women have come to you with those issues. What do you tell them?

So?

I tell them a lot of times women will come to me for different like reasons. One girl came to me and she had lost like a hundred or something pounds, so because of that, she never got on top before. She was like, Tony, I've never got on top because I.

Used to be big.

Now I lost some weight. I'm ready to show out. I'm ready to be outside, I'm ready to be on top, but everywhere whatever. And we just had a conversation and I was like, just just just do it.

You know.

And a lot of times they'll come to me after class and they'll say that now I feel better. I didn't have the confidence before. So it's usually after the class they'll come up to me and we'll talk for like thirty minutes. I give like about thirty minutes after each class, and everybody will come up and tell me that story they lost weight.

I had a lady recently. She was fifty seven.

She has not had sex and seven years because she was going through cancer. I guess the treatments and stuff like that. Okay, and now she got her thirty three year old man.

Yes, man, she's ready to go homeboys.

So but you hear all types of stuff women being overweight, just some women that have never done it ever in life.

Yeah, some women are n't comfortable. They never have been on top.

How did you become ex? How did you master all?

Right?

So there's there's a story. I'm not gonna tell the whole story.

Now.

Basically, I've had a best friend and she has come to me for all of her personal like sexual like I guess education, okay, And in doing that, after having a couple of sessions with me, she got engaged.

She got engaged.

So you're like, oh, I have a formula that's working.

Yeah, it works.

And then I taught the class in Baltimore.

It sold out. I taught it again in Baltimore.

It sold out. I taught it again in Baltimore, it sold out. And then I went to d C DC sold out, Philly sold out. And then it just started spreading. And then you're getting feedback and then the women are like, this is going on, this is working, Tony, what do you The husband's here, Tony, I heard about this class I'm sending my wife.

I love it.

And then when I found out that if people want to hump on pillows and people are I'm getting good feedback, I'm.

Like, all right, let's do it. And then it went worldwide.

I love that.

That's the entrepreneural mindset right there, and it seems like the thing you enjoy doing.

I love it. I love it.

Is that your favorite position? What's your favorite position?

I'm sorry, I will say yeah. I will say yeah, because you have control.

Yeah, I actually really like that position too.

You know, I've always said that's the easiest way for me to have an orgasm.

Yeah, a lot of women feel I'd like it better. I get have an orgasm better on my back, But I like being on top. But I like being flat on top, like laying flat on top of it, like that as opposed to the finisher.

The finisher, yes, and.

I like and I like handle to.

I like reverse Cowgirls for him, but for me, I like it.

I like it o.

I like like being on top. And then I also feel like it's like a workout.

It is. It is.

I haven't been to the gym. Let me go, get on.

Top, put my hands up and act like, you know, like give them and play with them and stuff.

In the class.

Actually, typically the girls burn between five hundred to seven hundred calories. I put that calorie counter one and at the end I'll have them come tell me what they got, and it's usually between at least five hundred to seven hundred.

And the classic's like fun. I was looking at your Instagram page. We have a good time and you can see the women in there and it's like a real like squats.

How do you make the women feel comfortable to do something like this in front of, you know, strangers.

Yeah.

I think it's a trust thing. One of my assistants says that I actually protect the women and I didn't realize it. Like one time I did a class in Atlanta and it was a small like a window like that, but the security was out there and just for me, I said, can you put something up on the blinds?

And I wasn't even thinking about like protecting the women.

It was in a sense where it was like, you know, I just want them to feel like they don't have people looking at them, even though it's just a security guard.

But they were like, you know, Tony, you protect us. You know what I mean.

It feels good, it feels safe. I think I have good charisma. I think I'm pretty personable, and I come in.

With I guess good energy, and a woman loved.

It, and I'm sure women come with their friends too. Yeah, like that's a fun thing that you come together with your homegirls, Like, come.

On, girl, let's go. That's a great bachelor ret.

Yeah.

It is party idea too.

Because remember when everybody was doing the pole classes. I feel like this is.

The new way that I was when I had my post studio in Atlanta, my biggest money maker was my party artist Whole Parties for bas the Red Birthday, Girls Night Out Divorce.

That was like what I made the book of my money in the business.

I feel like we need a lip service dick writing class.

I feel like y'all do took so much all right, Yeah, I feel like I feel like y'all do a really fun collaboration.

Yeah.

I think y'all should. And I'm pretty sure you'll be like told me I was lit.

Now you also now correct me if you're if I'm wrong, But you have are you married or you have a partner.

I have a partner.

He does real estate, yes, okay, uh huh okay, So now how do you implement this.

At home?

Often, so one of the things that's Q I don't know if you've seen the videos with him actually in the video, but sometimes he travels with me, and the women don't always know or expect me to bring him up. But I'll say, oh, they'll ask, well, Tony, how does it look if you're doing it on a person, because of course on a pillow, they think it's a little different. So I say, babe, come on, and come on, lay down.

And then the ladies are.

Like, oh wow, I get it now.

Now their tips for a guy has a really small dick, because you know, you can't go up high.

Oh yes, that's one of the first things we talk about. That's that's one of the first things. That's I think I cover everything, honestly, tell us what to do.

If a guy's penis.

Is not so you gotta stay you can still do the same moves. You just stay low to it. We say call it little dick lane.

You gotta stay in little dick lane.

You gotta stay in little dick lane.

And sometimes you go a little faster on it, okay, but you just don't come up so high because there's nothing up there for y'all.

And then you could break a dick that way if you come up high and then come up with it and then you go back down and it could bend.

Yeah.

Like I've had an experience where like I love to ride like and said, that's like the way I come the fastest, but like his sick was so big, like I felt it up here, Like what do you do in that?

What's the best?

I just go slow, just take and maybe don't put it all the way in.

I laid down like I did that on my stomach, like because I couldn't like sitting up was just I tried everything, reverse cyled girl, all of that.

And I just use the elbow trick.

What's the elbow trick?

I'll show you will get the pillows elbow?

So what is the number one like question or the thing that the ladies bring to you?

And typically the biggest complaint is weight for them feeling like they can't get low enough, and that usually can be thwarted by stretching.

It's really simple, you mean, what does what does it mean when you can't get low enough?

What do you mean?

Like so again, if you can't get close to the deck, like it was.

Too big, if you're not like flexible to.

Sit on it.

You know what I mean, Because it can become uncomfortable if you can't get low enough and open up your hip area, your growing area.

So some women can't open their open their legs, what do you mean?

Yeah, they don't stretch out much, so you know you're growing right here like her and be painful.

Yeah, it becomes painful right here.

So my next question would be, what is the thing that in this journey that has surprised you the most dealing with these women.

I don't think anything surprises really.

I don't think so, because I feel like if I'm surprised, then it's like I'm not expecting something. And with this sort of business, you gotta be like, I'm expecting all types of while shit.

So when I taught pole classes, my number one thing that surprises me the most in my students was the lack of confidence. I did not know that there were so many women who weren't like And one of my like taglines was confidence is sexy and I will always try to bring that sexy out of them to build confidence. And that's the reason why, because so many women were just like not confident within themselves, within their sex appeal. And you know that kind of showed a lot during the classes.

Yeah, I would agree, but I feel like I already know that you know what I mean.

I feel like I know because see you court me off guard.

Yeah, like people say it all the time. They come to me because you know I do own the Post studios. You're right, Oh yeah, so in Baltimore, I'm like a fitness studio back home. But anyway, so a lot of times women who come and after divorce, after a breakup and after somebody made them feel bad, and they're like, I want to feel sexy again. To me, I want to feel good. I need something to make me feel good. I want to either lose some weight or because he made.

Me feel like shit. So that was my turn, and I'm like, come on, come on.

Many some classes too. How can we help them get some classes they need to us? Like we're doing all this ship, were working out, doing stretches and class.

And they taking honey pegs right, taking honey right.

That's what they're doing.

Can we figure out a way to like get these guys in some classes like some.

So I do do some couples classes.

There we go.

I've done some couples classes and they actually work out really well. Yes, but typically it's still the woman doing most of the work or whatever. But I know, but like I even did this video. I don't know if you're s the one when I did the headstand. Yeah, we just watched it, and a lot of the commentary.

Was like why she gotta do everything?

Why? Why?

Why?

Why he not upside down doing the handstand?

And I was like, that was.

Cute because just because we're on top, man, y'all got a responsibility too as well.

You know what I'm saying.

You can't just lay there while we're on top doing all this work. Like y'all got to, like, you know, maybe we need to give the guy some like thrust up classes and.

Something I don't going to be.

As response to that thrust up, somebody said that we should call her back shots for beginners, but.

Beginners they do because.

I was telling you early to one of my friends was complaining about the guy she messed with. His stroke is not hard enough. It's like that like a timid stroke. She was like, she was like, it's just too timid.

Like she needs to start talking to him.

She's tried.

Men definitely be class and also to know when it's the time to like go hard or like because it's like as I'm climax and there's a pier where like I just want you to go, don't stop.

Some of them stop.

Consistent, slow down, trying to switch you like now you just messed it up.

Yeah.

And another thing that's really fun to do on top, like you know, you could put like all kinds of stuff because girl, all right.

So another thing is that.

Like while you're on top, you could also like put one leg up higher than the other, like up by his show.

And then what do you do with the other leg? Just keep it where you're at.

Yeah, So that's like almost like a Frankie linean split. I've got a half a split.

Don't you want to be kind of flexible for that?

Or jump in the hurdle?

You know, maybe I can't try.

Girl, I teach you.

That you never tried that.

I don't think you.

Know what I like doing.

I like actually squatting on it, yeahcause they.

Acquire some strong Yeah.

I love the squat So like I like squatting on it.

That's what I'm saying all the time. You're doing something too, you know. Now, what about a guy. Let's just say you're with a guy in his rhythm isn't right? How can you get him the lock and low?

Tell us about that?

With the lock the lock and load. I'm giving all it's fine. I can know the names.

It's when you take control basically, and you counted his rhythm. It's a move, okay, so you got to counter in his rhythm. You basically push him down so he doesn't move. You thrust him in where you want to be thrusted. So one hand is here, one hand is here.

Okay, one hand is here.

Lock and load, lock and load.

As you're gonna have to show me a vidual just got lost.

I got you the lock and load.

So part of these classes and d writing classes, right is it? Reverse cowgirl is part of the instructions to yes man, which one.

Do you like better?

It depends on the person.

So there's only one that I show in class, and it's because the classes for everybody. But for example, the person that I'm with has a curve, so the way that I got to turn isn't the same way that you would curve.

So that curve work. That curve. It's called the couchie curve.

It called you got to be all the way to the loft.

Where you're going.

But yeah, we do that one there. But my favorite move is the lock and load.

Okay.

It is because it's simple and it's effective, super simple, super effective.

They love the lock and little okay, and then you know what's good about like reverse cowgirls, or even when you're on tap, like playing with the balls. That's a good thing to do while you're on top. Also, yeah, reverse way, you got to reach I don't think I've reached around. I haven't tried around and ranch it off.

It's not here. I've done it when I'm the other way.

So I got to reach around.

Yes, that that requires some stretching. Also.

Yeah, one of the things that we talk about is while you're in a froggy position, different hand positions will change.

The visual, will change the feeling.

And it's something simple as like putting a hand right here, putting the hand here, put in the hand here, putting your hands here, putting one hand here.

So yeah, we talked about this stuff.

See, and I always think the first time you have sex with somebody is good to be on to get on tap.

I don't.

You don't why because it's an expectation. Okay, yeah they do get you know, is this the dick rotten girl? I want you on top.

Like I'm now, I'm not doing you want me to show out? I'm not sure.

No, that is true. And when a guy messed with it before.

I did that the first time, and it's it was just like just every time he wanted me to do that every time, Oh my god, And for me it was it was y'all.

Do y'all want to hear my heart?

Yes?

See y'all making it sound bad.

No, it's fine, but I just don't. I don't want to do that.

Go ahead, go ahead.

So I'm not going to say which X, But I have an ex who every single time we had sex, except twice, I wrote him until he came.

That's along. That's a lot.

Every single time he came. Every single time, our sex was the same every single time except twice. I can remember the two times that it was different. You were like, once was on the couch, once was in the bed. But those were the only two times where he kind of like you know, got on top and from the back and switch positions. Other than that, it was very cookie cutter, jump on the deck, ride it he come, that's it.

He came fast sometimes.

But I think personality wise, do you think it's like more dominating women that.

Like to be on top to kind of like that control.

I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that I feel like it's I feel like it's like some guys just pull you on top. He might not even feel like it, like some girls are like I don't even feel like going up there, but he'd be pulling me up here, and I don't know what I'm doing. So I don't think it's it's it's a domination thing because a lot of women don't have their characteristic.

Because I remember my ex boyfriend told me that he didn't normally like for girls to be on top during sex until you Yeah.

I actually experienced he never came that way before. I don't know why.

Yeah, some guys. I feel like some guys don't need to go to her class.

Some guys don't like that at all, you know, until like it's you know, just like we don't like certain things until it's done right.

Yeah, I've experience it's where like they'll stop me because they're about to come too soon while I'm on top, so they'll just like switch because they don't want to come right away.

Like that's my experience when it comes to that.

But I like writing like for me, Like I said in that last episode, I was on when I was sixteen, and you know, I was having sex. I didn't know that you could come through intercourse. I thought it was only my head and on top. That's the only way I thought. So that's why that was always for.

Me to go to.

Even now, like when I'm having sex and if I feel like he's having a hard time actually making me climx through throughout intercourse, I'm like, let me get on top, come on, take over, and like turn around, let me do something.

Some girls say the first time they have antal, the best way for them to do it is on top.

No, that's a definitely, that's.

One time only because only because you can control and control it.

Nah, they say on your back.

Yeah, they say, I haven't done it at all, So I can't even speak.

But I just heard that. I heard that it's better because that way, he can't ram it in you like you can if you're ramming it in your ass. He is very disrespectful and problem I feel like, okay, because.

Ain't some people feel like sex could be just one time.

I was one time I was having like a a very explosive night, let's call it that, and it was in my butt and then we flipped over and somehow I got on top and I was riding it and then I spun around and it was like an amazing situation. And then afterwards he was like, ain't nobody ever did that game?

Like for what?

But yeah, that was you know how sometimes we just had those nights.

This might be the advanced class that sounds like All Star riding.

Yeah, that's my class. An that's trying to cut the balls.

Around like customized classes, personal like privates or their levels.

So as of right now, for the riding classes, just ritting for rookies.

Starting in July, I do want to.

Introduce the All Star Riders class, okay and yeah, and that would be the more advanced class because what I find is that most people aren't all stars, you know what I mean.

Most people are donkeies or rookies, you know what I mean.

So a lot of times, like if I'll post like a very simple basic move, people are like, everybody can do that, and I'm like, what the fuck?

They can? They really can?

They really?

The first time I saw you that a viral post of yours on Instagram, I was in the comments and it was so many people that were like what this is and I'm like, no, ma'am, Like there are people who are inexperience. There are people who just don't know a lot. Yeah, you'd be surprised.

I typically yeel between about sixty to over one hundred girls per class, right, and maybe ten percent of there for like a girl's like everybody else is there for whatever taking notes?

People have their no pads.

I had a girl the other day with her no pad, like really like class, like, Tony, do you have an e book?

Do you have it?

Where can I get the notes? And I'm like, I need to work on it?

So that's how to get on that. So are there every guys in the class too?

I've had I've had two guys come once in Atlanta and then I had one guy had to kick out.

Why he was just he was there for the wrong reason.

He brought a blow up though. He was trying to get me to teach the blow up doll how to ride him.

I switched.

I was in San Antonio.

Oh yeah, that man had a mental and.

What I found out later on it he was a YouTuber, you know what I mean. He was trying to make some show.

So the guy in Atlanta, he was homosex.

Yeah, and that wasn't That's not about.

That was fine. I was cool with it. Yeah, you do you have an age restriction for your classes?

Nope, I had, Well, you gotta be eighteen, of course, you gotta be eighteen. The oldest lady that had was ninety. I don't know how she found out about writing for rookies, but.

She came and she needs it.

Still working baby, and she wanted to come for her birthday. Her her kids literallyranids old.

Wait was she like physically what she What they told me when she came in is that she didn't. They did not want me to know how old she was, but they told me, you know what I mean, she did not look like she was ninety. You could tell that she was still active in some way. But of course she couldn't do everything. But she was just like, let me do my thing.

I'm not mad at.

You know what I'm saying.

Before, I'm trying to feel the toes when I'm ninety, she was, Okay, so now I'm picturing the tippy toes that you just said, right, So standing up all the way.

So basically on your feet like how you would flat foot, but raise up on the balls of them.

Okay, yeah, and like in your heels. I feel like I could in your heels, I said, like you in here.

Okay.

Now here's another thing that I said to this woman that told me that she was really self conscious about being on top, is that maybe like the first few times you do it, do it in the dark.

I'm a lights on girl.

But until you get comfortable, you know what I'm saying. I just feel like, if you're not that comfortable with it and you're self conscious, then you start off that way and then you'll be like more confident to be able to do it with the light time.

I feel like honestly, most people after the class say that they are so confident, like I don't know if they go home with the lights on the lights off, but they're like, like the dms I get. I had one DM. It was kind of bizarre. The other day, it was a lady who told me that she came to the class she never got on top before, and again they tell me all their business. She found out before her and her husband got married that he has sent another woman a message and said before.

I get married, I want you to ride me to the wheels go.

Off or something like that, and that crushed her, you know what I mean? That crushed her because she never got on tip before. And if she came to class, she still married them, that's fine. It was before they got married and she said she came to the class and now they're happy.

That's bad, that's great.

I woulder if he still got that person.

You know what she said?

She said, he didn't, She said, I don't know, don't asked, never know. There's a stigma with with women being on tap or writing like, do you think there's a stigma with that? Or you like, why do you think that is something that is so scary or something that even like that we need to have because we don't have a class on on being on bottom?

You know what I'm saying, you don't have a class on being on bottom. I think that I guess, I guess it could be.

I guess it is for some women that people don't want to get on top and they they're like, I don't want to do it if you don't feel comfortable doing.

It right, because it does require work. It's definitely word you get a Charlie horse.

We talk about that too.

You we cover everything what do you do if you get it? So we just talk about stretching and how important it is. You don't want to be some water bananas all that.

Get that potassium.

Okay, So statistics wise for a woman to squirt, is that like the most squirtable position.

I'm not gonna say that. Okay, I'm not gonna say that.

And the only reason I'm not gonna say that is because I actually did some like certifications and like sex therapy and stuff like that, so.

We can talk about all that. But there's something called the skiing gland. I don't know how much y'all know about squirting in real life, the skin gland.

I mean, I never heard of that, but I definitely know about squirting.

It really, Okay.

I've never on top though, Oh yes I did once, but I didn't know that.

It's not that was the one time that I skirted that I didn't know I squirt it, Okay.

But there's something in a woman's body called the skiing gland, and that's what controls actually squirting. But again that's a whole different thing. But yeah, it's not it's not necessarily a position. It's just your body tolerance. So like if you don't squirre it on top, you're probably like you

Is it a fact though, that women that position is an easier position for women to come in.

I'm not going to say that either, but some people say that, yeah, some people.

For me, I'm not going to say that because for me it's different.

Yeah, so you more on top, you come more on top?

I think it's easier.

What about you? Are you more?

Because they say, like the position, I mean, I've heard that. I don't know how to it is, but I've heard that the position of like the stuff like that.

That's why what about you?

What's no missionary? Me too?

Missionary? That's the best orgasm for me, missiary?

What about you?

Me?

I on top?

But I've learned to close?

Would be.

Dog style?

No, what is it?

I know the name of it when you're laying flat on your stomach and doge style like all the way I say it all the time.

But that position and what about you?

Second dick, that's you come from that from you every time, not every time, but I've done it.

I've done it, not every time, but every time.

Is that only with your manner? Was it always like that?

It's with the man? Like you know what I mean? Yeah, Like that's my ship because that's.

Got to be like love.

I'm trying to put it together, man like.

It's so lis it's hard to explain because when I did it, I was I actually came, y'all know, no filter. I actually came one time eating ass a dude.

Or girls a guy.

I never eat a girl's ass before, only put She's like, how dare you?

It's not the same.

It's not the same.

Okay, but you know.

As ass, but a man eating a man's ass is a whole different life than I feel like it's a harrier, but.

It's not.

It's got to be.

Have you eaten a hairy ass?

I have had?

I have? And and then I made her manscape because I was like, listen, we can't keep doing it. We went to CBS and got some clippers, and I got to town. Got that thing right, been right ever since?

I know that's right?

Oh my god?

All right, So let's plan this because I feel like, we need to do a cliss service service writing class.

Yeah, let's do it here in New York.

Yes, you know, I was just here in New York to I taught this weekend in New York.

I was, well, I was here Friday night.

I taught in Boston Saturday, and then I taught bick in New York Friday, I mean Saturday night.

Again.

This might have to be like a little special thing that we do though for our listeners. Maybe we can get a sponsor.

Yeah, make the whole thing, y'all should y'all would love it. It would be fun.

Yeah.

I feel like, okay, because I'm down to learn some new tricks because I really like that position. I want to really perfect it as much as I can. And are there other positions that you teach too? Or is this really the main Like it's all rotten nine rottens.

Oh right, nine. I like that some options I even know they could be not I'm like, I love it.

We go through nine and different variations of each one, and then.

I feel like somebody needs to start the man thrust Thrust class.

You called it something.

Bagshot for beginners beginnings.

Anybody climates during one of your classes.

Not that I know, but let me tell you not that I use the humble pillows when I was little child, and listen I did, do you do key goles and everything too?

Yeah, okay, I'm doing them right now?

You can.

No one will know, you know, we talk about all that in class to see.

I like that.

I like like destigmatizing all of these things because I feel like it is really hard for women to talk about that sometimes, especially why I think their lips are versus is important, you know, because I've heard women say that they've learned a lot just from this class and also been like, okay, so now I feel like they can learn more about dick writing by following you and maybe learn about you from here if they haven't already followed you. Yes, and then we're gonna do our class.

Hey, I'm with it. I'm so with.

It all right, Well, Tony Williams, thank you so much? And where can people find you and follow you on social media?

My Instagram is Fantasy Fitness MD, and you guys can follow me there.

I think, did y'all want to bust a move or something?

Yeah? Part two up next? Sorry, I'm gonna be the student. I feel like we walk do.

I'm gonna go practice, all right, come on, all right.

Well, thank you so much for coming through Tony Williams again. Make sure you follow her writing for Rookies founder. All right, it's lip service.

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