Episode 372: Jumping Jacks with Omarion

the book explaining what it means to be unbothered. Yes, and UM, I think that this is a power tool, you know what I mean, and a guide to emotional intelligence, you know. Um, so far often you know what I mean, we are reacting to things that really don't surf us. You know what I'm saying. When you're thoughtful, you take a step back and you decide to respond. It really serves a lesson and a blessing. So you know, this book is a tool for people that you know need

a little help. You know. Um, I have journal props in there, I have mantras, I have breathing exercises, so we fully tap in and go in word. You know what I mean with this book. So if you're a book buff, or even if you just want to level up, you know what I mean, grab the book. It's amazing. Now this is lip service. So how can these things help in the bedroom too? Yeah? It all works. You know.

I would call that like really diving in. You know what I'm saying to the physical and mental experience of love. You know what I mean, Like we were talking about, you know earlier. You know what I'm saying in reference to love. In order to have those experiences and realize those things, you got to actually like who you're with, you know what I'm saying. Um, it goes past the

physical level. When you start doing breath work and you start you know, speaking, you know about the things that you know you collectively want, things you want to manifest. You can really get into some interesting things as far

as you know, sex happen. You know, it's important who you decide to partner up with two for sure, because you always want to be with somebody that's going to help you also level up and and hope you not make bad decisions, you know, because sometimes you want to jump out there and respond to certain things, But if you have the right person, they'd be like all right now listen, Yeah, I think that the importance of you know, a relationship is a partnership. You know, it is a business,

you know what I'm saying. And in order to really get into the success of that, you got to have a lot of conversations, you know what I'm saying. You gotta just really be honest about where you are and you you know, the number one thing for me, you got to be accountable, you know what I'm saying. As uh as I'm matured, you know, um, just even entertaining somebody that can't even admit that they're wrong, Like I'm

not interested in it, you know what I'm saying. So maturity has definitely showed me the benefit of like, you know, just really virobing with a person that's really on your level, you know what I'm saying, Um, it really serves you both,

you know saying. So Yeah, being in the music business from such a young age for yourself, right, did you ever get tired of be like I'm tired of all these girls Like I'm just you know, did you you did a little celibacy thing too, did a little three years it's not pregnant there like like three years were like you didn't come at all? And three like did you? Or is it like celebrate like with you with someone else because I know, well in the book my first

year I actually had a girlfriend. Yeah, so um yeah, I mean the three years it kind of transformed into a few things for me. You know, it was really mainly because you know, at the young age, you know, when we came into the game, you know, this is how they got us to not be horrors. Basically, they would tell us the stories. And these stories would be like you know a very prominent entertainers. I ain't gonna name them, you know what I'm saying, And it would

be these stories. He's like as a kid when you were here, you'd be like, what you know this girl, you know, he being with this girl and she trying to you know, used to come to get pregnant, and yeah, you know what I'm saying. It was. It was things that when they show you that driving school and they show you like to add that highway and death movie rights, you got to be careful exactly. So we got that talk you know, early on. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

So we we never you know, up until a time, you know what i mean, when it was time for us to have our experiences. But you know, we were like always had one girlfriend and stuff like that, you know what I'm saying, until later on, you know what i mean. But my southern pacy looked like, you know, three phases. It was like the first phase, I had a girlfriend. I was trying to figure out that it was it was it was actually it was, uh, well,

this is what she told me. She told me it was a beautiful thing for her because she was actually the opposite. She was more wild, you know what I'm saying. So when we linked up, it was like not about sex, you know what I'm saying. It was about affection and all that, but it was more it was about that in the book. Yeah, so it was more than it just the physical and and to be doing that at a young age was like unheard of, like for me to be that young and mature, you know what I'm saying.

So I think it worked for that year because she was turned up, you know what I'm saying. She was young, but she had experienced girls, you know what I'm saying. So you know, when you kind of peeled that back and you realize where all that experience comes from. Sometimes it comes from trauma, you know what I'm saying. I've been saying like, oh, you don't know what that has let them to make decisions exactly and value whatever that it is in the way that they do. So what

was PHAs two? Like Phase two was more like, Okay, I could do this, like I have power over myself, you know what I'm saying, not even you know, to be with a woman, could you know, differ me from

you know, my goals, you know what I'm saying. And that's that was more of like I would say, to speak to the competitive aspect of it or why it was interesting to me, and then the last aspect I would say it was spirituality, you know what I'm saying, because at this particular time, you know, I was diving into some other religions at that time, Jehova Witness religion, you know what I'm saying, And it was interesting to me at the time because I had heard Prince with

Jehovah Witness and then I knew Michael Jackson's mom was a Jehova Witness, So I just was intrigued, you know what I mean and Jehovah witness, I think or he might have just not want to give me no presence. I'm you know what if you dive deep into that, like and you really think about you know, how we ingest culture, you know what I'm saying, and the things that we like, the rituals that we practice, you know what I'm saying, We ought to know what that is.

You know what I'm saying, like, we ought to know you know, what deities and things that we're serving, because essentially that's what we're doing when we're talking about st. Nick. Nobody knows it cares about sat Nick, but you know exactly. Yeah, So what was the point that made you realize, Hey, I that was it was? It was after. It was

after I realized that it wasn't for me. And it wasn't for me because when I understood the thing about being like this fellowship from your family, you know, like when you're going through stuff like that, Like I couldn't recacile that because that's not how I was raised. How I was raised where very close to my family. So if something going on, you know, I gotta tell my land or I gotta you know, talk to her. She's the only person that's going to protect me, you know

what I mean. So the thing that I just didn't agree with, you know what I mean, which I understand in the business frame, it's like, Okay, you don't want to associate with certain people to not mess up your business. But then you know, it becomes a conversation about religion

versus spirituality. You know what I'm saying. That that's really what I was stepping in, and spirituality allowed me to just you know, view myself differently than how the world viewed it, you know what I'm saying, Like you know, all of my experiences or or like being with a slut or a hole, you know what I mean, and like understanding why they're that way, you know, accepting them from for who they are, you know, and a lot of religions kind of ostracized people, you know from yeah,

forget it, even come to church exactly. So it was like the other side that kind of made me feel comfortable with like okay, you know what I mean. And it was interesting, you know what I'm saying. When I stepped back, Yeah, for sure, it was like my body turned into a kid again, like twelve years old, you know what I'm saying, when you did decide to indulge in sex again, did you start a new relationship or was it it was it was my home girl, you

knew him was comfortable with exactly. And that's a lot of times I think what women confuse things with men, you know what I'm saying, because comfortability is a major part, you know what I'm saying, of being able to open yourself up. You know what I'm saying. So for me, rather than like getting a girl courting her feeling like okay, she's nice enough, I'm doing all of these different tests,

you know what I mean. It was like with my home girl, was like yeah, yeah, if if it was if it was like three pumps and I'm out, she wouldn't be like you know what I talking. That's never been the situation. A three years elevancy. You wasn't come on now, you would come on? You definitely did three three years ago. Because let me tell you what do Okay, I believe, but let me I believe that he that he you know, really performed because I see it the

opposite way is what y'all see it. Y'all see it is it was so much backed up that he had to hurry up and let it out. But I see that he connected with himself at different level eternally, that he was able to have his mind in the place that was connected with his body and able to really exactly he came in and went again and pretended he didn't come that first time. You got to be able

to go back spiritual into mine. But when it's been a while and find somebody that my body just says, yes, somebody says, splash, listen, but your friend, it's your home girl, right like that? Like, was it something that y'all have been talking about? Was there an attraction with each other that y'all have already had sex in the past. Now, we never had sex, and it was just a flow.

We was just vibing, you know what I'm saying, And it was a flow and we just was we was both like comfortable with open up, you know what I mean, And we just took it there, you know what I'm saying. And it was cool. And I'm a very like I don't like pressure type of person, especially in places that I want to feel like most authentic and comfortable with, you know what i mean. Like I'm a very go with the flow type of person. So if the moment calls for it, then you know what I mean, and

you're good, then we're good. How is your guys relationship after that? Like, did you guys try it again? Because they say sometimes it's hardy maintain that friendship. Yeah, break the seal. Well, I think that when we see each other, we definitely have like a type of mutual respect for each other, but it didn't transform into anything else. I think a lot of the time, you know, sexist for

men and women, you know what I'm saying. And yeah, yeah, I guess, Well, I mean not if you you know, if you have an intention, you know, and intention is clear, you know what I'm saying. Um, I don't think men have clear intentions beyond just wanting to most of the time. And you know, I feel like that's true. They also try to sometimes tell you like they feel like they're not gonna be a way. They want to warn you, like like just so you know, I don't want this

to be. But then sometimes they change to be done. That happened one time and this guy was like, look, I don't want anything serious, and then next thing, you know, he want me to be his girl. And I'm like what time I wasn't even looking at you like that because we had a whole convery because he didn't know. You know what I'm saying, That's just what women have to understand the power to peak, you know what I'm saying, Because we're trying to figure it out. We gotta we

gotta figure this out, you know what I mean. I don't want to feel this way, but damn, you're making me feel this, so let me tell you so. But then that didn't work so exactly, so you know, I think that you know, it does take time for a man to mature, you know what I'm saying. But when a man knows what he wants, you know what I'm saying, it ain't no question. Did you eat the booty like groceries? You know? You know I appreciate you and I can't let you in my bed At the point why no

said yes, somebody's like, I can't tell you. That means I actually had that phase in my life where it's like if I sleep with you, we go together, like I'm not gonna sleep with you, Like I wasn't gonna give it up, but I'm not gonna lie. As I got older, it was times resident after I sleep with you and you know I didn't feel it, yeah, you know, and sometimes it was a chemistry there. Yeah, kind of changes things. Because have you ever been with somebody and

you really like them, but then you sleep together. Oh my god, you're saying it and you just wish you could take your pussy bad. You never game. I got jumped over. So I was a town boy in middle school. I went to three twenty in Brooklyn, and I got jumped over my homeboy. Like you know, I was like tomboys. So all my friends, like all the guys like we would do crazy stuff like I was a boy, and

I didn't know that my best friend liked me. His girlfriend even jumped me, and everything with her sisters, Like her sisters was like eighteen seventeen. I'll be dass at least hers and everybody. Wait while you were in middle school. Yeah, her sister was eighteen and she jumped in like I was fighting her, like I couldn't worry about everyone else. So you know, I was making sure I was taking care of her. But it was because my homeboy, who was to me my best friend, I didn't even look

at him like that, liked me. So she didn't like that, so they jumped me or whatever, and I was like, like, I didn't even know he liked me, Like I didn't even to me. Literally, it was just this is my friend, and I'm in middle school, so I wasn't It's not like having sex or anything like were though, but again I was a townboy, like I wasn't seeking about having sex with him, and like that I didn't like him.

I think that a lot of the times, you know, women don't understand that, you know, man like like women like their mama. So if you have a cool mom, like I have a cool mom, then like I actually like really cool chicks, you know what I'm saying, versus the opposite, you know, which would be like maybe chicks that want to be pursued in a specific way. So you didn't know, you know, but obviously you was a great friend, you know. After that, I found out that, you know, he was like, you know, I did, and

I guess she picked that up. But still I was like, no, I don't like you. But then years later, as adults, I moved back to New York. That's when I moved back and we linked up again. It was like, okay, well, I guess let's try this. He was so small was there? Wait? What happened? His penis was so small? I was like all the time, it's the same side of it was in the middle school. That's I've never I was like,

I have to my best friend. I was like, yo, could you believe, like after all these years and I'm telling you this, was like, now we're like y for this little thing. Though I thought some women prefer that. Nah, how someone like put up with it? Okay, Sam is only good for the butt? No, this is little. It's like the only good for an I was like, what you're in there and otherwise you know, we need a certain and and they're too big. It's my penises know

they have small penis. They better because they don't ask you questions that like other guys asked you, like is it big? You know you love it? They don't even ask you that. They're just happy to be inside. I was like, I got jumped over this. If this this little, Now, imagine back then you really jump me. Now, Marian, being that you were so young when you first got in this business, did older women try to talk to you a lot, older women trying How did you handle that?

I actually like it, you know what I mean, I'm not afraid to learn. So yeah, they never felt creepy, like Okay, I'm si nah No, you know what, I was the kind of kid that like brought flowers to my teachers and stuff like that. You know what I'm saying. So I'm you know, I'm gonna score. Yeah, for sure, you were still going to school during this time, like when you were still in regular high school? What before two? Yeah? Um yeah, yeah. I went to ninth grade then my

team grade year or summer. Then I was in the group and I never went back to a regular school. I was gonna say, this is no way you could have been in school doing nah yah know I was getting turned up in high school. She just would have been all in that. Teachers then the teachers we're not like the teachers are out teacher teacher yea. She said that after she got on Valley, when her old students and her a messing at d M. It's like now

that I can't anything like that. Yeah, it wasn't too many sexy teachers that I came across, But as far as older women though, you know what I mean, it depends, you know what I'm saying, the one thing that I can't appreciate about a woman is her reserve, you know what I mean, and her ability to understand. Sometimes the reserve is a bit too much, you know what I'm saying. But for the most part, I'm interested in like having a peaceful time with a woman, you know what I'm saying.

And you know, um, when questions are asked, they are articulated in a way that you know, it could be some open dialogue, you know. I mean, they don't have to just be like judgment, you know what I'm saying. So now let me ask you this being that, like I said, you were really young when you first got started you in the group. How old were you? Like? Sixteen? Yeah? When we started when, um, I was fourteen, but we got signed, I was like sixteen. Yeah, So you did

you ever before that? Did you want to be so low? Um? I was. I was preparing. I was preparing to be so low. I was like a rapper actually, and I was a part of this rap who called the Wild Kingdom and um yeah, Wild Kingdom, yeah, the Wild king Yeah, yeah, that's all I got my name with Marion Actually, yeah, I was a bunch of I was around a bunch of older dudes. You know what I'm saying, That's how I've always been for me, you know what i mean, mature.

So yeah, like I didn't. Actually I started singing because my mom was like, Mario, I think you should sing, you know. I was like, why mine? She was like, because it sings to get all the girls. She knew I would like to get you going. Did your mom like any of these girls when you were younger? Like, did you bring them home? Yeah? Yeah, a few of them. She liked a few of them. She like, like she's hard critic. She said she liked April in the beginning.

She did. Yeah, everybody loved April in the beginning. You know. I mean, like, how do you think that being on reality TV? You think that affected things? For sure? For sure, I think that affected the trajectory, you know, just of you know, the mindset and what was available, you know, just as far as like you know, a place that she feels like she could make something of herself. You know what I'm saying, Like maybe if it was a different platform, you know what I mean, Um, it would

have just transformed differently. But it's like, you know, I have a love hate relationship with reality TV because I know how it works, and I know that a lot of the times, you know, people making up stories, you know what I mean, they're not really trying to transform themselves, you know I'm saying. And the few that are, you know, um, they don't know enough about the entertainment business to like really you know, transform it into something productive for our culture,

you know what I'm saying. Those that do know where they're going with it, it gets overshadowed by all of the stories, you know, exactly to keep people engage. Yeah, And it's just like, yo, life is more than like, you know, these issues, you know what I'm saying, Like what about you know, getting through the and like what happens after that, you know what I'm saying, and the

healing that goes on between that. So that's why reality TV never really worked for me, you know what I'm saying, Because I was actually being vulnerable and open and sharing the moment with my public you know what I'm saying, that with the people that have grew up with me as an artist, you know what I'm saying. So it was, like you said, like the vulnerability got overshadowed and through the moments, you know what I'm saying, even though I

was still able to amplify my brand. You know, essentially I created a platform for someone to kind of bad mouthed me, you know what I'm saying, and do me wrong, you know what I mean. But it's like, hey, you know that come with it. It had the potential to

be good. It did. It was It was It was because it's like, okay, you know when you guys doin because I feel like all the time they're trying to reinvent that show and make it seem like, Okay, we're gonna bring some credible you know people are here, but then the drama happens. Yeah, because it's not really authentic. It's just like people think enough for opportunity, you know what I'm saying. And it's like, you know, me and

her was authentic, you know what I'm saying. And that's the real gift of you know, entertainer of performer, you know what I mean, to be able to like live it out in front of everybody. You know what I'm saying. I would say that's the true mark, you know what

I mean an entertainer. You think you have trust issues now because You've been through a lot when it comes to trust, when it comes to being in the group, when it comes to people that you thought were around you to benefit you and then instead it was a lot of behind the scenes tearing things apart, and then even being in a relationship and things like that. How hard is it for you to trust someone? I would say that at one point in time I did have

trust issues, but you know, I'm elevated now. I just realize how to identify, you know, with people that have good intentions and people that don't. You know what I'm saying, Like I could feel it, you know what I'm saying. It's happened to me so many times that you know, now I'm connected to it in a way that it's just like my life flows into a direction where you know, I'm around people that I deserve to be around, you know what I'm saying. Um, And I think that that's

so important. You know, when we all take a step back in our lives and we just you know, speak to our value. It's just like, if you're valuable, you know what I mean, then you know you you can be you can be open enough to be valuable to

someone else. You know, what I'm saying, and it's powering that and too far often like we all, you know, get hurt and we kind of lose that that human aspect to our lives, you know what I'm saying, and essentially doesn't do good for you, you know, because you don't you don't let nobody in, you know what I mean.

So I see the importance of trusting people, but I also see the importance of protect myself and like being cautious and you know what I mean, um, just being aware, you know what I mean, because you know it could happen once, you know what I mean, but the second time it's swing you for real reasons. In lifetime, like you say, and there's people, and I feel like as you get older, you choose better. Well you're supposed to.

You should, because you know, some people will say new new friends, but the people that are meant to be in your life. You don't have to be loyal to people just because you've known them a long time. Sometimes those people are toxic to you. And then some people that you know will stand the test of time. You know, we've all known each other a really long time and managed to and we've never had any issues with each other, and so some people will grow with you and some

people will fall off and fall out. But you can't try to force it if it's not meant to be. Right now, let me ask you this, So when you guys were younger, how was it like being on the road. Did you guys compete over women? You know how sometimes it might be on the show or on the road and then there's a girl. Everybody's like, I wanna talk to her, Like, how did that work? Were there are times that somebody would try to get somebody from someone else, so bring someone back to the room, but you were

talking to her first. Well, um, from my perspective, you know what I mean, you know, coming into the group and just realizing everybody had their own different swag, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, that's kind of like how it was, you know when young girls would come around. Like for me, my position was just like, you know, choose up, you know what I'm saying, because I'm not really to like go after you type, you know what I'm saying. I'm more like I appreciate who

appreciates me, you know what I'm saying. And I back back then that's the kind of person I was, you know what I mean, Like I think that you know, we have maybe like some of the same girls, you know, naturally, you know, especially talented girls that were like coming into our space that like had more to offer than you know, just like a look you know what I mean, Like, oh, yeah, you know what I mean, like Jennifer Freeman, you know what I mean, Like naturally, our interest you know, we're

talking about kids, child actors, our interests in the script was that we had to like each other, you know what I'm saying, Like that was the role we had to play. So it was so natural for us to like each other, you know what I'm saying, like, because

that was the vibe, you know what I mean. Now, you know, aside from the work, I wasn't going to be the person that was just like, oh I need to like call you more than this person calling you because this person like you, this person calling DIBs on you, and Nika just did a little stupid stuff like that,

you know, as kids, you know what I mean. But because I listen, I've been around, like you know, worked for a lot of different people, and I've seen that happen where it's competitive, Yeah, no, I like, I like for a chick to choose me. I feel like that's more, that's more of my speed, you know what I mean. Like it could be a lot of handsome guys in here, but what you want, you know what I mean, because you know what you're interested in? You know why am

I interesting to you? You know what I mean? So I'm more of that person energetically, you know, than anything like I'm not into Okay, Yeah, I'm the lead singer, so you you know, I get the number one quti in the room like you might be feel him. You know, you don't gotta be my you know. You know what I'm saying. What if someone else likes a girl but she likes you, and then like how does that work? You know? Because you gotta let the woman choose. You

know what I'm saying. You got for real, you gotta let her choose. You know what I'm saying, because, um, it is what it is at that point, you know what I mean. It's not like a conversation. It ain't like ohd me versus you and I'm trying to size

you up and yeah it's like yo, she bob with you? Cool, It's it's I mean, there's so many beautiful people on the planet, like, for real, for real, even I'm not, you know, some women's only option, you know what I mean, Like I would be silly to think that I'm their only option, Like any guy, you know, no matter what you bring in to the table, you know what I'm saying, It's all about what the woman wants. You're okay with dating a woman who's dating other people? Um, defined dating.

I'm talking on the phone a lot, you know, going out, spending time together, having sex, okay, um, but not not in a verbally committed relationship. But it feels like we really like each other. Well, that's kind of a tricky question, just because you know, I I know women, you know what I mean, And when't they're really intrigued and interested in something, you know, they're data, They're not necessarily open, you know what I mean, unless that's just how they are.

You know what I'm saying, That either have to just be that way or have been that way, you know. But what I find with most women, you know what I mean, if they really vibing with you, then you know they're gonna communicate that to you. You know, where you guys land that's a different thing, you know what I'm saying. Um, for me, I wouldn't say that I necessarily date, you know, because you know, it obviously takes

me time to get to know someone. And I believe that to truly get to know someone, Like we're not talking three three to six months, you know what I'm saying. We're not talking about even three years. You know what I'm saying. It takes a real time to really develop something with someone, you know what I mean. So I don't like to give myself a time limit on that, you know what I mean. If I want to move into a more serious agreement, then you know, it's a conversation,

you know what I mean. But I haven't been in that position yet to um have a more serious conversation until last time you had a one nice stand. Um, let me think about that. No, not really, not really, not really no, Because it's like, if you really want to have a consistent kind of experience, you know what I mean, Like you gotta vibe, you know what I'm saying.

You can't just be like, oh, you know, nice ass, big big tits, you know what I'm saying, Like it gotta be some fight they gotta be some dialogue, like I gotta at least, yeah, I at least gotta be able to tell you what I'm gonna do and you like it, you know what I mean, Like, Oh, I never had that happen. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, So what could that be? Now? No, I'm just I'm just chilling. You know. Being a single father, you know, UM makes it a little you know, more difficult. You know.

I mean a lot of a lot of women want to move into something very serious with me very fast. You know what I'm saying, and you know they're kind of put off that sometimes that I'm not um in that space, you know what I'm saying, because I bring so much to the table, you know what i mean, Like, how do you eat in exactly? That's a great question, you know what I mean. I let the energy you know I have in the past. You know what I'm saying. Um, but no, hell no, I'm not. I just I'm just

getting shout out to the tender heads. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, No, I can't. I can't do that. I can't do that. I think that, Um, in order for someone to you know, understand who I am and what it is that I'm doing, you know, because I'm first generation wealth and I always explain that to women. You know what I mean, because I has to do directly with my focus and my communication. You know what I'm saying, Hey, I'm first generation wealth builder. You feel me.

So if you can't be patient with me, you know what I'm saying, you can keep it moving. It's being patient with you because a lot of men say that, like, be patient with me. Being patient is being able to, you know, ask the right question to garner some level of understanding and being able to adequately articulate your position so you can you know, because some women, which this is I despise that some women feel like they're running out of time. You know, like I e. A woman

that doesn't have kids versus someone that has kids. You know what I'm saying. It's like, oh, you're rushing to have kids because you're like and how I feel it. But but is it though? You know what I'm saying, there's so many women that you know, it's like, just on your story on where you at. Don't try to force where you think you need to be, you know what I mean. Even though it's lessons in that, you

know what I mean? Um, what I find you know serves us more just you know, realizing where we are and while we're here and where we want to go. People get so stuck on societies standard of beauty be where they think it would be and how they think they should and it's just like, just be you let your ship flow, and I promise you with your life

would be so much better. Period. You stop worrying about what everybody else takes standards of what you think you're supposed to be exactly, And that's how I live my life, you know what I mean? Just like, Yo, you know what we're doing right now? You know what I'm saying, Like are we vibing or it's just physical? Okay? Cool? Then you know what I mean. We could do that until we feel like we need to have a conversation about going further. Okay, what can you contribute? You know

what I mean? What can I contribute? You know what I'm saying, Like, what can we do? Because I'm definitely not interested in being you know, a boyfriend? You know what I'm saying, somebody that because I like you and you que and what we got going is nice right now? That I'm like fully supporting your brand, you know what I mean. Um, if it's in a real investment, you know what I mean. We got to talk about the terms. You know what I'm saying, period, agreement, period, it's a business,

it is. Vacation is the key to all success and happiness. You said communicate, but vacations help to Yeah, communication, vacation, unication and everything in friendship and family, in all relationships, like, communication is key. And that's where I think everything lacks is people don't have clear communication or understanding of perspectives.

And um, I saw a post where they somebody was like, I kind of want from the jump when we date, give me all your traumas, let me know what's going on, because I think that's how you best know a person and you're able to understand all the trauma. I'm not doing that from the post, and I din't understood where it was. It's like that. For you to understand a person,

you gotta understand where they come from. You gotta understand their past, you gotta understand, you know what's going on for you to fully understand the perspective, like you shouldn't fully understand some when when you first meet them, you gotta like grow the post. I don't agree with that that was the post. Let me take my trauma, because I would run if somebody sits head know that was

the post. But I do feel after a certain amount of time, like you send a lot of people, you don't understand them because you don't know where they come from. You don't understand what they've been. People don't even know their own trauma though sometimes, you know, sometimes like a lot of a lot of people don't though, because there's a lot of things that you might not realize. I feel this way because this happened to me, you know,

until I started therapy then. And it is true that like a lot of people try to put their best foot forward when they meet somebody that's like the representative. That's what you always get the representative at first, of course, as you should, yeah, because that was the honeymoon phase.

That's when you're just like having fun. You know, it's kind of more at that point, superficial, until you feel like you could trust somebody enough to like I think I think that too, But I feel like it gives room for you to grow, and it gives room for you to actually, like for me. You know, it's hard to be uh like uber romantic because I know the full extent and effect that it has on someone's life, you know what I'm saying. So it's like you want to be mindful of that. You can't just do that

in the beginning. What do you school? Super romantic to any woman? To any woman is something that means something to her, you know what I'm saying, Something that deeply touches her, Like, give us an example. That's something the most important period dowtful gifts. Um, I feel like the most important ones are the extensive relationships, you know what I'm saying, So like maybe a parent or you know, figuring out you know, how to I don't know, let

me think about an example. Um, but what's something for you that's been romantic romantic? Uh? Make this book with me and my kids like of like all memories like you know what I mean, since they were one of until their age like something like that. That's why I'm saying something very intimate to that person. You know what I mean that you know that's just like oh yeah, the heart string it like yo, Because there's nothing you

can't buy yourself. So yeah, and certain experiences to you know, like certain women haven't had certain experiences, so like first timers, that's a big thing too, you know, But thoughtful gifts, like you said, is uh is the supreme you know gift to to give anyone, you know what I mean? Definitely, When do you think that you learned how to um

properly be intimate? Because I feel like when guys are young, you all don't really know what you're doing until you get to us and you're like, Okay, this is how you make a girl squirk, you know what? Yeah, I mean I think that there is you know, a mental

and physical aspect to this. You know that only you know, either you you're learning from an older man, you know what I'm saying, or you actually mature into and you know, obviously a stronger aspect of you know, the society is like at this point in time, it's like you can learn everything on you. Yeah, but so you had like tell you what to do, like this is how you gotta Yeah, I mean I around the air hustle doing that conversation. No, I definitely you know, learned some things,

you know what I'm saying. But I also was very curious, you know, I remember my mom, you know, she used to work at this harrisalon in Hollywood called Afros in Hollywood, And it was like the first time that a right across the street was like this adult store, you know what I mean. And me and my brother was just like walk into adults store like being a little badass kids. And that was like the first time I've seen like, oh, wait a minute, she is busting it wide open and

she is handling this like this, hold on now. Yeah, so that was kind of like my introduction that's the worst way for guys to learn how to have sex. Yeah, not, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say it's completely a waste, you know what I mean, just because just because there is a physical aspect and intention that goes into pleasing a woman, you know what I mean. Like if most women you know complain about not coming, you know what I mean, but they're watching poor you know, he he mes, you

know what I'm saying. But but like I said, as you mature, you realize that, like sex isn't just physical, you know what I'm saying. So you know, but if I wouldn't have you know, learned learned that, then you know, I would say that my intimacy, you know what I mean would probably not be so potent, you know what I mean when I decided to love a woman, to be intimate with a woman, you know what I mean, Like it's like, wait a minute, hold up, this is different. Yes, yes, baby,

do you remember the first time I girl squirted? It? Um? Yeah, I think I think squirting is it's cool. I'm not, I'm not really I don't really like that. I think I think because it's sometimes you know, you know, certain women they're mixing it with the p you know what I mean. Okay, yeah, see that's why I know I didn't like it, because the material, you know what I'm saying. The material and the consistency of it, you know what I'm saying, and depending on what you're drinking, you know,

pH whatever, you know what I'm saying. But I would say, to make a woman cry, that's that's different. That you have sex you cry, like that's something that's like emotional emotional. Have you have you cried during sex? I have when I like cried, like he saw me cry, but like I love this person so much, and my like when I skirt, like I'm not squirt with everyone, but when I spurt, it's like that that the chemistry, and it's

just a feeling that's there. Um. But with my ex, who I was with for a while, I did cry. But I think it was more because it was so emotional for me because I love this person so much and we had such great cremistry in bed, and it's just like in that moment, it was like, how could you do me? I don't know, it was just crazy, Like it wasn't like happy. It was a happy cry. Yeah, more than once. Actually, Yeah, it wasn't like I had to. I've had that happy cry and why I've spared it

a whole lot of times too, And never were their tears. Yeah, when I don't laugh, when I square, I don't think. I don't think crying. It wasn't like happy cry. Yeah. I haven't had a so in love and I feel like this, yeah everything right now? Emotional. Yeah, that's what That's what I'm referring you shrooms? No, this was before the shroom. So you cried during sex? No? No, I never cried. Do you want to? You said you never

cried a period? No? No, I mean, of course I've been doing sex yea, yeah, No, you got to let it out. Sometimes you don't want it to build up over time, you know, I mean, you gotta let it, let it tear out. Um. But as far as sex goes, no, But I have felt incredibly intimate, you know, like when I created my son. You know that was definitely one of those moments overwhelming loving. Oh wait a minute, hold up,

my lord. Yeah, you feel like that with both your kids, like you knew, Um, it was different what I may you know what I mean, It was always love, but you know it was more intense the first time for sure. But my baby is just so special, so you know I would definitely, you know, um say that love. It was more more of what I you know, put into that situation than anything because they're awesome. Did you fall

out of love? You can fall out love for some people feel like once you're in love, you love that person forever. Like you know that you gotta update, you gotta update your love, baby, love and love you could, I mean, you could love someone because if you've been through so much and like real love, this is the greatest gift my children. I like, I could not not you, but I'm not in love with you, and I think in love is the part that keeps in love. It's done.

I'm over it. Yeah, that you for falling and that's everybody getting all personal. Yeah, I'm in love with myself, my kids and everybody around me that loving me right now and just come on, you know I love with this oxygen that's keeping me alive. You want to get married one day? No, marriage is not for me, you know what I mean. The custom and it's not it's not a it's not a good business move for me, you know what I mean. But I am all for a good um. Yeah, I wouldn't want to get married.

You know. Well, first of all, let me just say, you know what I mean to be able to go and sign an agreement, you know what I mean to the courthouse to validate my love or to validate how I'm gonna show up in your life, Like it just doesn't equate to the type of love that I have to give. Some people feel like for legal purposes, like it's something happens to somebody. Yeah, that's already protecting yourself. I mean, I don't know, you know, that's not how

I was raised. You know what I'm saying. I wasn't raised you know, in a home where it was like marriage you know, was a you know, a status symbol. You know, it's none of love, is none of those things that it is for the idea of marriage for me, you know what I'm saying. So that's the real reason why it's you know, even in the business you know aspect you know, uh, to really wealthy man, you know what I'm saying, that I have a mass you know, billions.

You know that is their worst business move, you do a prenup. Yeah, I mean I always thought that way, like your young adult into well, I never I never grew up seeing a marriage really work like happily, you know. I mean, I've always just seen people put up with each other, you know what I'm saying. So it's like not a lot like more people kind of like I think, staying married because they feel like it's the right thing to do, or gotten married because ever reason, or they're

not that happy. That's what I'm saying, and I want I would never do that to myself. I would never be with somebody that I don't like. That's just torture, you know what I'm saying. Somebody that I don't vide with my own love. I don't not even want to, like share the same bed with you for real, but you could be with somebody forever, just you don't feel like you have to get married. No, no, we won't because you bean monogamous. Like with one person, I feel like I could want to be. I feel like I

could want to be are supposed to be? I feel like I want to be. But if I'm being honest, like I don't know in the physical aspect, I don't know, you know what I mean, I don't know that one woman has made me feel like just on a mental and a physical level, like damn, I don't even need no nothing else, Like I've never felt like that, you know what I'm saying. No woman for sure when you get older, yeah maybe maybe. But you know what I don't know. You know, I'm I'm pretty you know, sounding

my energy, you know what I mean. It's you know, for a woman to have to deal with me, you know, she got to be a special type of woman you know that deals with energy in a in a way, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, we'll see. But you know, I really feel like the true definition of love is acceptance. And you know, for me, a relationship is about that. So it's like I want to be chosen to be loved in that way. I don't want to be like, yeah, we together, you love me, I

love you, and that's what it is. Like. I want her to be like I don't even folk what this nigga do. He can't do nothing but love me, because that's what I want. You know what I'm saying. And it's just like, damn, what are you gonna do to that? You know what I'm saying. As long as it ain't toxic, you know what I'm saying, and as long as it's authentic and it really comes with you know, um, those kind of intentions, and that's that's a love that I

want for sure. That's a love that i'll keep, you know what I mean, And that you're married and that I will What if what if she has more than you as a business and arrangement, Like let's just say that she's wealthy, then that's a good. Yeah, for sure, then you'll get married. I would give no baby about the cheese, because you ain't about the cheese. The cheese

is you know, just some means. Yeah, you know, it's just some means to be able to say, hey, look meet me and you know you meet me here, meet me there, you know. But for the most part, you know what I mean, I want to be supportive, you know what I mean, even if there are business ideas, because I feel like whoever you know, I end up with,

she'll have great ideas too. So it's like yo, if we you know, Polly and and she's like, yo, baby, we need to up Like all right, I'll put up at like I would love to do that with a woman, you know what I'm saying, because that's really an exercise in the value of the relationship, you know what I'm saying. So I'm interested in stuff like that. If she got more bands, you know, because of her family or something like that, or just or her hard work, you know

what i mean. Now now, now give us out nows. Now you know, everybody got their own thing, you know, currency chase and that's a two black line. Um. Yeah, but hey, you know, to each his reach, you know what I'm saying. Um, I don't know if that would particularly be my um you know, um, definitely something to have fun with, you know what I mean, But maybe not, you know, uh, the end all be all, you know,

And I hate no women to have that hustle. You know what I'm saying, Um, it's just energetically different, you know what I mean for someone like me. You know, we gotta say, O'Ryan was on there doing jumping jacks. I spent wrong. What did you say to him about that? Like? Were you what do you? Would you make jokes? I mean, well, you know, as we all we made jokes on each other. You know, I walked in the room and start doing jumping jackson up. You know what I mean. But it's

all good. That video out to the thing about the thing about us, you know what I'm saying, Um, particularly my brother that you know, he has a way of expressing his sexuality, you know, and I would like to add as a masculine man, you know what I'm saying. A lot of the times women feel like that looks like um promiscuity, but it's not. You know, just like women expressed themselves, you know, men want to express themselves to you know, Prince did that. You know what I mean.

It's so many people's favorite artists at a time. That's what I'm saying. He was able to express you know, himself, you know what I mean. And masculine men want to you know sometimes you know, just like y'all put your ass out there on the line. Sometimes, you know, you want to put the problem. Man, let it know, Like, hey, baby, I'll hit you in the head with this motherfucker. Okay, so just you know, I have a picture of Laura getting hit on the head with Oh my god. Now

we were set me up. We were I was hosting like a male review show. I was like, just she was like, whatever you do, don't test it. He was a bump. Oh, you know, he took you to Chinatowns. Have you ever sent out a picture of yourself to a lady like you never sent to Dick Pick. Yeah, in the past for sure. Yeah. But because you know, I like to uh, I like to talk. I like to you know, speak certain things. Yeah. No, not just through pictures, but like you know, real life. Yeah, like, hey,

you're ready to you know, handle the stick. Yeah, he's going to tell her what he gonna do to her. You didn't hear that part, didn't wait, But but you know these not only tell her, but it's hard to send pure I mean, you just gotta own it. You just gotta own it, you know, and you gotta make It's a good picture. Yeah, get your right angles. Shut out angles are very important. The background, the hair. You gotta make sure it's manicured. You gotta make sure everything

is looking nice. Do you ask and shine? No, I don't shave man skate a little trim, you know what I'm saying. Clippers keeping a little trim, you know what I mean? Little feeling you can tell you because about the way he didn't right, because I'm pretty, I'm like a hairy person, So you know what I mean. I'd like to definitely you know what I mean. It's very courtey, right because I'm gonna be like, hell no, I don't right. So you've sent out these pictures. So the angle got

to be from under here or from up here. If you got the right tool, then all the angles is good. You know what I'm saying. It hits an If you got the right tools, then you know you know, I mean, there's definitely more angles that serve you better. You know what I'm saying. Like I would say the upward angle. Upward angle always looks bigger. Upward angle, I would say the side side angle. You know what I'm saying, Um

the above you feel me? Side corner? You feel and we all like a little like a little you know curve, Yes, no, curves are curves are nice if it's too big, like if if it's too big, it could hurt a little to me. Like a hook, it's a curb. I don't know about a hook, a whole hook, like a slight, slight little bit. It's okay, you know, straight up and

down is good too. So I was like to a guy the other day, Um, actually walked into a conversation he was having someone and he was saying, Now, I was gonna say, he didn't get circumstances until he was a teenager. Can you imagine what that must be like you? How do you know he did it too? Yeah? I think I got and I think I spoke about it. Yeah, I got it later on in life when my son was born. And its completely useless, you know what I'm saying. Like he talked him a lot. He said it made

it more sensitive. Yeah, I mean some people say that. Some people say it makes you less sensitive and more desensitized. You know what I mean? Um, But anyway, I thought about you when he said it did clearly, Please don't think about me in that way, think about you, not think he said a woman he was dating told him

he should do it. Yeah. I think I think that's because you know, that is you know, societies, you know, um, standard, But yeah, if you really know where it comes from, you know what I'm saying, Like in the in the religion aspect, you know what I mean. Yeah, I mean, you know, in the Jewish aspect, that's a that's the

custom that they have, you know. Yeah. So it's like when you really think about what you're doing, you know what I mean, and you're like, wait a minute, hold up, this but this is how we naturally born, you know what I mean, Like, this is how the dick comes. The dick comes like this when you tell them that. Yeah, yeah, period, you know what I'm saying. So you know, um, but hey, you know I went on and went to the other side. I would say less sensitive. Yeah, I would say less sensitive.

You know. I think it's because you did it later on in life or what now? Um? Yeah, No, I don't know. I think it's different for everyone. You know, everybody has a different kind of sensitivity. You know what I'm saying. Um, not necessarily you clean, it's prettier huh um, Yeah, I mean it looks more like what what we know women want, because yeah, that's had. I've had more than one experience with the uncircumcised penis, and I had a

really good experience with the uncircumcised the second time. The first time, I was like, what then, because you know, I was young and I wasn't you know, that experience with penises at all, So I just really didn't wasn't expecting that were prepared for that. But the second time, it was actually nice, Like it was it was a situation with that guy for a while, and that wasn't any type of thought or it was almost at the point where like I would be sucking his dick and

forget that that was happening. It was so did you just have to get a warning? I had a time like just so you know, because she said the guy she was caught off guard. Yeah no, no, I'm pulling out. Yeah. I didn't get a morning guy either. But again I was much older and much more experienced sexually, so I under stood happened. In the first time, I was just

what was happening? I know it looked funny, it looked like an elephant because we used to it, right, I mean the custom too of how everyone is kind of like program to be like yeah, but in other cultures they're not like that, Like I know certain Spanish cultures like that. You know, they coming as they are right, Yeah, and the women right, it's like a BBL for your penis kind of that's more like a more like a penis tuck. Yeah, penis tuck tucked the skin off. All right.

I know you have a lot going on because you are doing a lot of press around you, but but I do want to thank you so much for coming and have a good time with that. We really did enjoy Yeah, no doubt, thank and I definitely appreciate this book. Um, I'm like almost done. I'm finishing on my way home on the plane. But it was refreshing. Definitely was here because yeah, it wasn't not what I expected because I

didn't know what to expect. Um, but I learned a lot about you and your upbringing and who you are as a man, and I appreciate you sharing that it's something that's that they needed. So I hope people have the same reaction that I did, because I felt like this is something that we should Would you do a retreat after this, like would you plan to do like some type of retreat to teach people more about you know, mind,

body and soul, spirituality and things like that. Yeah, so we're actually doing an Unbothered book tour, and there is a series of things that I take you through. Some breathwork. Um, we do some affirmations together, and we also do a sound bath. I don't know if you've got that. I just did that for the first time. So we do a sound but yeah, that's good. You need to passed out. But why don't you end with some affirmations for us? Okay, let's let's pull it from the book. Let's do like this. Okay,

and I know which one I want to use. Yes, okay, this is the being Unbothered meditation. Okay. Now, usually sit in you know, comfortable position, you know what I mean? Then I do, and then let's do this all right, And now we're gonna do three breaths before we do this in hell or more. Now this last one real deep. I am walking away from toxicity. Be unbothered. Sometimes we go far from people who deserve very little. Be unbothered. I am willing to find a new way or make

one be unbothered. I am disrupting ignorance with clarity. Be unbothered. I will gather my thoughts, be honest with myself. Be unbothered. I know now all that matters is what's meant for me. Be unbothered. I know that something are meant to be, but not meant to last. Be unbothered. I stand firm in my truth like a rock, undisturbed and unmoved. Be unbothered. Ignorance and rudeness crave attention and acknowledgement. Be unbothered. There we go. Amen, Amen, thank you so much. That's amazing.

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