Episode 352: Exit The Friend-Zone (Feat. Kali & Boo Sledge)

been doing about you here in New York? I just actually I just landed. I've been in Detroit. I'm on tour with a lot of US. I've been in every city about now. But I'm only be here for a couple of hours. Okay, So all you did was really just eat and come here, all right? You know eating is important. Yeah, but every time I come to me like I don't really like the food. What where have

you eaten that you don't even remember? Yeah, you gotta go a place I never I never do because we got to get you are certified list of good restaurants. I think it's one place Jul Jul. Yeah, it's like Chinese Asian food. Yeah, that's like it. We loved you, but that's not the that's not the one right now, where's the it's um say last now, I think I've been there too, better right, No in Brooklyn, I'm gonna

be honest. Yeah, because I live in Atlanta. So we got some good food where food that really fill you up? You want to eat the whole plate. If we were visiting in Atlanta right now, yeah, would you text you where we should eat? What's the top? I like seafood? Okay, so it's this place called the boiler Yes, sea feel bad? Yeah, okay, it's real good. I like steaks and like mash potatoes in the steak market. Yeah, that's my jam my boyfriend and there for like a little date night and blew

his mind. I was so happy that he liked that. Yeah, I want with my best friend. And we had these drinks that the smoke was coming out of the roads. I had three. They have very whimsical presentation. Whimsical. I've never heard anybody used that in a real life situation. You got your state wrapped and gold. No, I'm not real big on red meat. I'm very, very rarely eat it. So, um, I've been there twice and both times I didn't have

steak at all. However, Um, the first time I went to people that I was with, hats, You're not from New York, you from Chicago. From Chicago, so what do you think about the food here? I'm just caring in New York. It's been good my first earlier times when I was coming to New York, I was a lot younger, so I wasn't eating. I was eating like that shipped off the street. They're cooking like rice and we're coming from a club. So it was like tree right is that? Um?

What was it? Parkmer ready? And yeah, yeah, I've been chicken over right the white sloo he pay a little at the end of the shot. Yea even like, so, now what are you eating? And when you like? I went to Sweet Chicks. That was my first time as part owners. What's your favorite? Um? I do like Brooklyn chop house. I love my little Brooklyn spots. So like I like Caribbean food. Yeah, heaches in Brooklyn the grill

um chillies. I love Caribbean food. Okay, So when I'm telling you next time we're gonna make we'll get you right, yeah, good food here. Yeah, my foodie, I like I do when I come to you. I was sorry telling my manager. I was like, we lead New York like us. No food for me? We got you, dam I'm so big. When I think of food in New York, I think of like Ruth Chris, Mr Child Noble. Yeah, all right, so let's talk about something I like about food and

eat and eat it up alright. First of all, we love being on here too, and the two of y'all together was definitely a vibe. So let's talk about that song. Because I have always said, what's my what's my motto? He better respect the box? Yeah, I got to respect it, and so like you wouldn't have sech of somebody they didn't eat it first. No, even if I'm not giving, like you know, giving it back, you definitely gotta you know, not get me ready, Yeah, get me right. But as

a man, what are your thoughts about that? I totally agree. I don't even want to do if I can't eat, I shouldn't even be wanting to do nothing else with smart about you like me for real, you know, like we were supposed to be. Yeah, we just you know, I don't have to like you know, so you eat somebody susy that you don't like. For sure, I'm a man, thank you. I cannot like some ship she do or something like that. But the end of the day, she got a box. Would you second you didn't like if

you didn't like the guy. No, No, that's what we go differently, and y'all that's why y'all smarter than us, and y'all make better decisions because y'all understand that. You know what I'm saying that if I don't like you, I shouldn't be doing that. But as a man, just being real, I don't gotta like you to eat your pussy, you anything or talk to you nothing. I don't gotta like you. But that's why would you don't have to do that? So why would do if I like you?

That doesn't really that's just like the do that you are telling about a sexual experience. Okay, so we're gonna we've been engaging that like, I'm not not sex if I can't do that or you at the caliber that I should be doing that too. Okay, I understand what I'm saying. He also feels like though, that he can't have women friends. I choose not to you choose not to have platonic. I can't say can't and I respect

the guys who do. But I don't know. I just you know, for me, you know, you walk past one you don't see her, like, oh, that's a good friend for me that you don't see. No platonic, none of that. I feel like, I just don't. I feel like this men, um, you're just being honest about it, Like, yeah, I could be cool with a girl, but she let me slip. I'm gonna slide because what else are we cool about? Like as a man, like, what are we really talking about?

What I talked to you about friends? To understand you're saying you're not. We can talk about music, we can talk about sports. I'm a gambler. I fight like we can talking about UFC whatever, hockey football? Hold you fight? Yeah? You about me and my guy friends. I'm a girl. I grew up in the street guy friends. But listen to me. This is what I'm saying now. My guy friends are squares, so they my girlfriends. I called them

my brothers. We never had sex before. But if I also be like, uh, I got it is can you scratch it? If I gave them right, Yeah, that friends that wouldn't sleep with me. You don't, you don't, you don't, you don't really you don't. You don't know that I do, Yeah, because they're either married or involved with somebody that I'm friends with, or that's still none of them. But I'm like, I'm not never saying I don't know, Like I'm just

being honest with myself. I had a situation. I was younger right like um, and it was like cool with this girl and we was like fortunate kids at school.

So that's like Timmy, he'll figure phase like we're coming through having had the same type of time on they're missing scooted that I bought her when and we yeah, on accident at even nothing, So they kind of put this narrative out and she wasn't like no, um, like she was a popular chick and I'm just this new dude that doesn't transfer us like they're getting me cloud instantly, and I'm like, I ain't even on her right, so just off that I looked at her different, so I

was being I never shot at her like at us. Sweater Goud, This's why I think like this sweater Goud so like a year pocket it I get a record deal year past, I see on my confidence up a little bit better. I like to say, damn, you know, I always dug you like you ain't know she'sh you just ever said nothing. And since that day and you let me come back, I'm gonna let you know if I see you that way. Other than that, I don't see a woman. Sorry to say that I saw to god,

I don't know at all. But if I see a woman, I see, oh how cannot enter? Not everyone, but if I feel that, but I have to see this. Most of my guy friends that are my guy friends today, I want to and this is the truth. And they know what's the truth. And their girlfriend's probably know what's the truth too. That when they met me, they told me this. They shot but they just didn't want to be out the car with you, right because guess what,

you have to get some puss exactly saying that. But sometimes you just gotta kick some game for really no, and I please, that's what. That was one of my main things when I was because a girl growing up with a lot of guys. I used to do things, you know, with my we used to get money together and things, and I always you know I say this a lot. I always hung out with a girl who was very promiscuous. Is you know who was easily to

give up through you gonna do this work exactly? And I used to be able to go my guys, and my guys appreciate from you. It's my point that I got. But I have to say that they shoot their shot at because they respect me when they get let down. They didn't call all that friend ship. But because you go out like have guys that you've just been cool with taking you out to dinner, just think that done things like that, but not anything happening. See now, because

I'm just the type of person. If I really don't even like you, I'm not even gonna give it a dinner day and none of that, not even just being cool. Now, I'm cool with people I've been on Like these are people I've been like little kids, like little girl grew up with you and stuff like that. So it's it's really hard. I'm kind of closed off when it comes to letting people in my life. So like when it comes to me like different guys and stuff, it takes so much Like where do you think that comes from?

You being closed off? First of all I've seen. My my dad ain't really been like in my life at all. And my my mom, she like seeing how she dealt with her relationships and stuff like that. And then my mom came out she was lesbian. Like when I was sixteen, I was just like, I don't know, like she never really taught me like how to deal with like relationships and stuff like that. So I'll just be like I just I'm focused on something else. So it'll come, you know,

whenever it happens. But I just don't be want to put my energy towards that. I just see how she dealt with stuff and office to my mom loved her, but like I just don't be wanting to go through what she was going through, right and that. So you think that you started writing and rapping when you were twelve years old? Yeah, okay, So what made you decided to start doing that? Like what was the circumstances for you? My mom she was married and he was a producer.

You always have like my godmother and they're singing or like different girls and they're wrapping and stuff like that, and I just like that's so cool, Like you know, I want to try, like I'll be writing in my little journal and stuff, like I was a soccer player, so and I didn't really have no friends. I was actually like bully throughout the school. So I was just like just teach me, Like, teach me, how do I

want to hang with you? Like, you know, since my dad wasn't really there in a younger life, I'm like, okay, and let me see if I can find a way to like bond with my stepdad in a certain way, you know. So then he just taught me everything. But I was waiting there every day even if I wasn't doing nothing. I'm just just around. I'm just sitting there, yeah, trying to sing, trying to anything if I could, Yoto,

I was coaching. Yeah. So you have an interesting story about how you got signed at How old you when you got something? Sixteen? How did that happen? In Chicago? I was out one night, um me and some of my my good childhood friends and um, I was at the McDonald's actually, and it's crazy R Kelly discovering me. I know it's crazy, but it was like this McDonald's done in Chicago. It's called rocking at the time, and now it's like really like like new Millenium Mine like

something like soon. You know, it was like a staple to go to. They had it like designed like seventies style sixties or some ship like that. So that was like on the weekend, if you was downtown, able to get downtown, you might go up. And it was like twenty four hours. So we go with one of my good friends. He just got a scholarship to do. It was like hooping and ship. So my man, Corey mcgetty shot him out whatever. So we just happened to go down there and it was like super packed, so we

couldn't really even get in the parking lot. And he went in to use the restroom and uh, it was taking a long and I just got out because I had never been down there, like I want to see what's up. I'm walking through the parking lot, you know, I'm thinking like it's like people like showing off their cars and all that type of ship. So it's a lot of people crowding around somebody around the car and it was killed and he just happened to see and I was looking at the car and realize like it

was him. You know, this is like night, you know what I'm saying. So you ain't, I'm saying. And then in Chicago's we ain't saying nobody fails and he wasn't looking famous, no jewelry on them. And then I'm like, damn, you know I didn't notice that. Somebody in his camp noticed my homie who hooped and we got to talk about basketball and I was like, man, let's play for some money and I ain't even had none. He was like,

what you do since you're doing all the talking. I'm like, ship, who, I'm trying to get you all to come you know this bet sucker um you know. And he's like, man, you look like you rapped. But you know, I've been super like super, that's crazy. I'm from Chicago, but East Coast rapp has had me early on, so I looked different from anybody from Chicas. I carry myself like that.

And he was looking like and I'm like, na, but rap and he's like, just wrap a song, you know, I don't care, You're just it's or about you whatever. So I can't howdy thinking ship and I'm like, damn, but I was puffing Mace. I was crazy about that at that time. I kicked his maze Verson. He was like, man, I knew you could crab. Like, no, that's amazing what I'm saying. I'm like, but I can't. Ye, I never rapped, you know, so like, no, it's cool. I'm about to

go to the studio now, y'all should come. I went to the studio. And then that's when they kind of clicked to me. When I went in the studio, like damn, this might be coming through my head. I'm seeing all the plaques on the wall and ship. And then he just like kind of just do something out there, like, man, I ain't making no promises, but you should give it a shot. And after that, and where was gott so gotty At the time, I was, I was a solo. I was by myself. I hadn't seen gott gout. He

I actually just had out of um. He had just he was in prison for a high second and he had just got out. But got Iss a little bit older than me. So I just happened to see him in the office one day. I'm coming out the studio and he was there, like having a meeting with this dude. I ain't Williams who signed kills. He was having a meeting. But he had his own CD like his face on it and like he was turning out the trunk at that time. I never saw that, like damn, how you

how you did that? You know what I'm saying. But then I also know him from my neighborhood, and he was like, no, like all my cousin loved him, you know how, like somebody your family like talking about somebody. So I kind of looking up to him, like, no, he's super smooth, dude is getting money the whole nine. After that, I saw him, he remembered me from like

me being seven years old, remember everything. Seeing him another time after that, and um, he was She was selling the CD and I swear to god, I ain't had no money to buy it. But I'm like, just give it to me, you know what I'm saying, Just give it to me. Bro. He's like, I know you signed with dude, how much you have charged me for me to do a song with you. I don't even know how to do black features. I don't even know what

he meant saying that. I'm just let me get the CD up for real, and I let kills A and R. At the time, his cousin Blackie, I'll let him hear it, and before he listened to it, he said, how good? And to get him to listen to it, I said, good enough. I wrap with him because Carl's put me in the group with this producer. I'm on this song called We Ride on the double CD to it got jay Z Cameron in or the first song I ever wrapped on. Damn. So the guy it's all in there

my name and that you feel me? I wrote all much of everything me and this cat name is a double in the club track recording out here. All of youngsters don't know me, but the g yeah, all the ever fat Joe all and they know me to listen to. Growing up, I was a straight I'm still a straight, nicky fan. The whole Eliyah, Missy Elliott then was my vibes. But I want to ask you one question. I heard your music and it's in it's dope. You got a

real good whisper floor everything. I understand it because I don't got the biggest, strongest, loudest voice on of it. But when you're writing from a woman perspective, and he was talking about guys and everything like, and you didn't your answer about guys and how your music is meaning? What place did you write it from like when you talk, is it real or is it just like you kind

of imaginary? No, It's real. And I'm talking from a place where I'm dealing with somebody that I'm like really got to the point where I actually care, and I got to that point where it's like it is hot, sick, or like we is going through it like I've been dealing. I've been dealing with that person. So or my friend will be in a studio or something, or she'll talk to me about the story she had something. But I

feel like I need to get this all much. It's like talk about this because I don't want to hear this right now. Okay, girl, I'm combining all kinds of stories that we all just talking about, like we can all relate to and like we can relate everybody else

can women artists like like where they write from? You know what I'm saying, even if like a dude write it for a female, not have done that before you write it from like how I do want to hear it, even if it's like a situation, I feel like I didn't handle it how I wanted to handle it, Like I'll be like I'm rapping, like what give us an example, like you just know, like if you arguing with somebody or something, you'd be like, damn, I should I should

have said this. Then I go in the studio like, this is what I really wanted to say, and that's what I really So that's that's get the last word. That's so I write from that perspective life. Yeah, what's the most toxic sign for a man? Because you talk about it in your music. I had like three. Okay, I say scorpio, I say that, I say that, I say Pisces, and I say A said good job. Ain't none of the in between the scorpio Gemini. I like Gemin like Gemini women too. In my adult life. They

are two different people. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I feel like you just gotta understand the two different versions of them. Like it's not that they're two different people, they just have two different kinds of sides. You know, one is a really you know, sexual you know, hugging and a nice vibe carving robe and the other ones like the other one is after they come. Because yes, exactly, man,

geminis like that. Like okay, I have a lot of Gemini female friends and that's like turn up crew like if you're ready to like, if you're ready to some pop, that's my that's my turn up crew. And it's the same with the males. I'm always bobbing with their Life's always really fun and we outside's going to keep talking about a sign too, So I love what's your sign? I'm a Sagittarius. Yeah, my best my best guy friends.

You can't have a guy friend, you know that this is Let me tell you why this is my best guy friend. This this man. He's a couple of years older than me, and you know, we grew up in the same neighborhood. And he has taught me more than I've learned in school about myself, you know, like I learned his three in math and you know, etiquette in school, how to fold my hands and be quiet and raise my hand and whatever else you learned in school. But he told me about myself. He told me about my

blood and my race. Like you know, I grew up in a Puerto Rican family. You know, my grandmother was born in nineteen twenties, so imagine, I hate to say this, but you know my grandmother, you know, they wanted us to be really light, and they didn't even want us to tell to my in the in the summer, we used to wear these big hats, so we went and

freckle up and get too dark. They want. My mother when she was pregnant for me, she prayed that I would be really white skinned because my mom is probably Jesus color, and she went through a lot of racism growing up, and she didn't want me and my sister to go through that, you know what I mean. So I was kind of scared of, you know, the darker side of me until I met my friends, until I'm at best. He taught me to be proud of my of being, you know, a woman of color. I am

a woman of color. I'm not a white person. He taught me. Um, he taught me the history of my people, my Puerto Rican people, you know. And he's a Dominican guy, and he knows, he knows it all. He taught me my black history, my Puerto Rican history, my Dominican history, and I mean we literally used to sit there teaching me. I swear he was, and we were being on the block smoking weed up in the cribles too cold, so we upstairs bagging up talking about like we want to

think about my best friend. He's an aries. He we never we don't have no bullshit conversations. We don't talk about everything is yeah, hell like talking about you know yeah, like oh my boyfriend and scaring me sa to that's what he said. Yeah, but that's though, that's what y'all didn't realize. Yeah, exactly, because man don't know how to consult you when you haven't Yeah, that's never walked. And

he's like, I can't help you with my scar. And I was breaking Kelly, like I'll talk to him like, you know what, like I'll tell you about that, like he tell me, like what's really going on through the man's you know my I don't want to be sitting there in the conversation, but he will, you know, because he's my guy friends. So how you see him and so you're not attracted to him my guy friend? Yeah,

just because of your guy friend. No, I just like, like she said in the beginning, he most likely pushed up on me in type of way, That's what I'm saying, but I told him I'm not on that and he kept it cool. Like you want to know, Corny wants to be on that though, because though why don't you like him? Yeah, that's a great question. Um, he's not my type, like WHI it's like he cool. He was cool friend, And sometimes when you find out a connection,

it's it's you that es is hard. He doesn't know that you don't know like that like that oh ship, I like like tall, you know here on the shorter side. You know I can't do that. Well you're taught to, right, I'm like five eight okay, so I'm talt for a female. How do you Okay? So just because you gotta talk what else? Um, I don't know. We're not into the same things. Like you know, I take my career like

real serious, so that's my priority. And I feel like I need somebody who understands, like if I have to go, like if I have to do stuff, you gotta understand this is what comes first for me. And like even though I'm one, I feel like i'm more like in the head, I'm a little more like grown. But she wasn't.

Yeah he wasn't. He still want to be honest, Yeah, sure, So it was like we're not even on the same like mindset or things that we want to do and like, but you're cool, like we I can talk to you about what you're still you're talking said and all that, but you still she like him as a friend. Yeah, but that's what I'm trying to figure out. You're not

explaining like somebody else. Look just like you have women friends like if I'm going, if I'm life, this ain't even because you're twenty one, so they know it a little better. When y'all say, as a friend, how do you separate? That's what I'm trying to listen to me, this is what happens. Like she said he tried and she wasn't interesting, said she wasn't interested. He wasn't gonna be mad at her, Like I forget that, I don't even want I mean, they got to a bond. So

let me ask your question. Let me ask you a question. They got it from? What so okay? From my experience, like me and my and my best friends who are men? I understand what you're saying, Like what what caun y'all? What cause y'all beat having calmed? What? What? What is it? Me and my me and my guy friends. We you know, we have a lot in comment. We both like football, were like getting money, we would do that, you understand, negger? Yeah, we like man you know so, But that's what I'm saying.

Sometimes there are some girls that you would actually be able to have. It wasn't just a random like random dude like I've been knowing him. It took him. It probably took him some years to build up that courage to But then I'm like, nah, but we could be going out, we have fun, you know what I mean? Not your dress, he's like he'd be dressing. He put that fresh, so why wouldn't be funk with him? So I can't say this if you could, it's not as it's not a chemes. You five eight and he might

be five three. But when y'all lay down, y'all the same time, unless you're talking to your record's not five three year Now I'm understand this and maybe what you want. I ain't telling you trying to push this man on her from being sure. So you can't hold it against a person like oh he's sure, like, don't never she's not interested in you don't even use that as nothing though, like short time. These people can't help. But if you don't like it, you don't like it. Yeah, trachically he's

not my type, Okay, Camustre wise not mentally the same. Yeah, just that does not stop him from being I want to hang out. He likes clothes, I like clothes, were like you know, he tastes me like like home. That's right, crazy wrong, it's nothing wrong. Not going to ask you. So it's impossible for you to just have a cool, last calm bond with a woman that you're not having sex. You have sex with a woman in order you have anything in common, don't because you're not going to have

sex with every for sure, you think that. But in the other part, That's what I'm trying to say, is like, where does it come to me to say, like, y'all got probably more guy friends and women friends, right, No, No, I got my women. But where I'm from and what I know, they all say, I can't kick it with bitch bitches. Accidently, this is what girls kick it with? Girls? Why the fund do I want to kick it with them?

But beyon't like some I'm not like guys. Right now, guys I can call be like, we're going out to the club tonight. You know that's let's actually, what's his purpose? What are you vibing with him? A out? That's what? Yeah, you're thinking about it hard. He's just trying to think of the big plus. If you if you say you need to back to the questions. Just what's wrong with understanding? Yeah? For to pay? If you know, that's just me. I like just saying you said, Yo, come out, We're just

going to the club. It was yeah, bringing the we we are? Yeah, ability with other girls. Yes, you know y'all run his own girls away too. How that's your bitch was? Let me show you anybody had around me for me, they're gonna want to hang out with't gonna think you got money, just like you know what's on the outfit. Hold on, you must be successful with me. You're me your friend? Why do your friend want to Everybody has different interest everybody has different chemistry, everybody has

different approaches. Let me ask you something. Have you ever eight of girl's pussy and I had sex with her? Yeah, because that's what you wanted because she was just like, because I'm a pussy either for that? Let me ask the las good at Of course I wouldn't say that the way he's sitting here talking about what you want

to ask? Because I think I know all right. For the ladies, have you ever said to dick and I had sex period, not ever, Like would you say somebody's dick and never have sex with them, Like I've never

signed aboudy dick and didn't have sex with them. No, but I've been like, hey, baby girl, and you want to get your dick suck I'm not talking about her relationship obviously with not like he's saying that's like, yeah, I never I've never suck somebod like I didn't have sex with ye, So you can't have sex with me. If you my dick for me, you got dan. I'm not. Yeah, I'm not Dan unless you're my boy. Like, so like I'll suck your and then we have sex soon. Let me to the first time. If you with a girl,

have you ever been cheated on? Of course? Is it worse if she has sex with somebody else? Are just sexist dick hurt? Yeah, but it's got like a levels to it. So she's back. She'd been like, Babe, I didn't even suck my own, like be like it might not even be clean, and like want she be to me and girl like I ain't even I need letting you know that on me, and she'd be like, he just ate my ass discussing kiss you because because you know he is bottom feeder. Yeah, okay, so when you

get cheated on, do you want to know all the details? Um? Like, what do you need to know? Honestly, when I find out'll just be like, I'm cool, don't don't. I don't need to know the details. Actually, but the last time it happened to me, I didn't even ask for the

day of details. They just came. So it was just like what the other girl told you, the other girls she told me, and it was like she was like saving for the moment that she was like gonna tell me Google link, Like she really she didn't like me. That was the thing, Like she wanted my position so very badly, and that she I told him, I said, I didn't even match you. You just look stupid because you're not even paying attention. This girl is recording and

and take it. Everything that she is doing and just waiting, it's like she's talking to me like anything that she's doing, she just she ran, I'm the day, calm, I'm gonna tell Kelly and this house don't look And she had the whole Google doctor. Yeah that's the time, Like question, you remember what did I say he don't know his own question. It was his birthday. I didn't. Let's get back to the topic. I don't want to know any details. If my man she's sawing me, I don't want to

know anything. So what's your question? Why do you want to know the details? She didn't. I didn't want She just did you look at wasn't your question? Well? Yeah, yeah, I looked at it. I'm looking like it was all adding up in my head, you know, like to play like you crazy, So I'm like, oh, so, actually it was more of a him, so you was just your slyer like it was just like why would you even? It was just a baffling moment, like oh my god, like I was actually right about a certain things. You know,

you speculate, you feel certain things, guys like you're crazy. Yeah, And it was more of that, like I didn't really care that it is what it is. You made your baby' gonna lay in that because I'm gone. But it was more of like dang like that, like what did you see? She was sitting like screenshots like, so I got a

promise ring right? So she I guess they haven't said so she like, I want a promise ring and he's like no, but then he got her little flowers, so she like taking pictures of the flowers and stuff, and oh, you got her promise. And I'm keeping it a secret, but I'm not getting this and this and that and the trips and the bags and all kinds of stuff. So it's just more of like a hate that. Yeah, I did actually back my hat. That's good. Anytime you

go through all that being an artists always write about it. Yeah, that's how you get back. I feel like that was that song was I actually when I found out, I made it like a week after it happened. It was a way because I didn't want to talk about it with nobody for real, because like it was like your friends, like yeah, like friends always be known before you, but you don't ever want to believe that, like something like that. I can't tell because they're gonna be like, girl, we

told you, are you crazy? So that's why I was like, you know what, I like that, no comment, No, but you actually actually maybe that's not even true because you know, uh, guy, I could be a friend. You give him a chance. You know, he think it's all good. You know, y'all had that bonding and they all said he got comfortable because I was friends with the guy that cheat on me. First I was cool with him, like it was like I seen him around other girls and stuff like we

would talk about different things. Um that then pretend to anything like sexual or nothing. Then I'm like, he shot his shot. I'm like, you know, maybe you know I gave it a chance. Hey, still he did what he did, like my friend, don't mean you get comfortable? And then how does he fail now saying your success? Like, do y'all still speak at all? Does he reach out? Oh? I don't know that number is blocked. I see no call o D. And just look at that whole ring.

Do not answer? Do not have a blast with whatever you got going? Remember the question exit cheating anything that you wouldn't do in front of your personal answer, anything that you feel, anything you feel like you have to hide from your forget other, anything don't you want to tell, and anything that you wouldn't want your significant other to do. If you're doing something that you wouldn't appreciate them doing,

then it's out of pocket cheating. I think there's levels to it, Like and then you said where did it starts? The initial feeling of I have to hide whatever it is that I'm saying we're doing. If you got a hid text message, that the true meaning I catch my man, If I catch my man talking to somebody in a way that I don't want him to talk to this person,

I'm not gonna be like, are you cheating? You know about it, but you think I think that it's the start of the cheating stuff, and I'm just that's red flam. I don't know if it's considered cheating yet if you haven't physically done anything. But yeah, but exactly, but I don't get somebody you don't hiding the messages from you you didn't want me to see that. That's cheating. For me, it's just wrong. But I'm not gonna be like, hey, you're cheating, like you know what you cheated on me?

We need therapy now. No. But what you're doing is you're you're you're walking down a sneaky path, you know what I mean. You're you're on your way. Yeah, I think it's on your way. But I don't know if it's necessarily cheating. I feel like maybe you would, right and then I was cheating because well, for me, it is because I always be like, well, if it was me, you would be looking at me like I'm just this crazy hole. You can't trust me. Now you're gonna go

do me all kinds of ways. Because I was tasting that one then one dude, and that's she into guys like they're not going for that. Didn't even do that to a dude, like for certain women to look at and I'm looking for I'm looking for some I'm texting. Guys can do it kind of like instinctively, right, y'all do that, it's like premeditated and start for women. I believe it's starting y'all. Man, it's start in your mind too,

actually startling that. I feel like a man, I can't have a drive, you know what I mean, like by mistake, No it's not. I don't feel like a woman can end up on some dick by mistakes. A woman a woman not going to even look at it like different. But I agree with that, and you know what I mean, I might use that as an excuse women. They just I feel like a man could be like damn, that was because you could be in the club, meet a guy, get drunk and then mind is this cheening conversation they

didn't shut your mic down. They're like, I can't have her talking about that. See what you started with your question, I'm gonna get homie in the game. Are you trying to get the short guy in the game a nice girl? Oh, don't get me wrong. He's very hats like, he's not really short, like I just like him six foot I mean six foot old. Personally upset about this because I like, No, I feel yeah, like because his home is talking about him.

You've been friends zoned in the past. It's coming from ah no, but that's just not a cool place for dude to stay in it. I feel like I've been for me, I've been hit to friends ze like it's been years now. He's chilling. He didn't have girlfriends like, and it's not like I'd be busy. I'll be staying out the way. It's not no female feeling like, oh she she want to talk to my y'all girl best friend.

She do too much? Like, But it's okay. Let's just say you had a show on the road, y'all was in Miami and he need a place to crash for the night. Could he stay in your room? Yeah, on the pull out couch. Yeah, that's that's fine. Okay, Yeah, but I just made sure that I'm covered. Like, you know what, if you had a boyfriend, would that be okay? Probably I wouldn't probably do that, But it's a respect thing for my boyfriend. Respect. It's a respect thing for

my boyfriend like that, that's my friend. But I know that then you would not be okay with true. I have plenty of guy friends, and I'm very devoted and secure with them I have. So let's say, for instance, I have a friend shout out to my friend be no, be no. We met because my homeboy put me on him because he had fire. Weat so I would get weed from him, and then we became cool. He's a chef. He cooks, I cook, I eat. We have that in common. He from Atlanta, like your cool. You know he'll hate me.

You don't want to. He probably do, and that's going conversation job but that. But but here's the thing. This is, this is this is the thing he though he probably might wanted to in the past, or maybe if I, you know, said what's up with what's up? People probably be down right. The fact that we can still be cool regardless of if it never happens. That's where the volume lies. You don't got to be about set. Yes,

it's a real friendship. That's my homie. Like we might not speak for three months or you know what I'm saying, we might speak for three days straight, like he might call me like what's up with this? Or you know, what's going on with you know? How do you feel that your man? How do you feel like your man having female friends? Nah? You it's the whole I got grandfather in that situation. You did heard um my core relationship. My man has to be my friends. Okay, I have

no issue with that. There's a there's a you know, but he wouldn't want to. But he wouldn't want to. I respect what he would very tight relationship. You know, I'm not gonna lie. I wouldn't now go like I feel something. I feel some type of way, but now be like I'm a watch like how y'all relationship is Like if it's too much, y'all face wake up on the FaceTime and y'all talk too much. It's that's what

has a girlfriend and he has a woman. He can't do that with his female friend, but boundaries with our god friends. If it's not. It's not It shouldn't be hard for you that my best friend, my best guy friend. I know, I'm since I was fourteen years old. Like, sure, I could call him here and there and we can have a conversation on the phone, but I ain't gonna

be calling him. I know you got a wife and I'm great friends with her, and don't call you a a certain time if you're in a relationship and married, I'm not gonna I'm not calling you. I'm not here. I waited tomorrow at the time. If I'm calling my my guy friend, You're like, hey, I'm out with my girl. You know, what's just just text me I'm doing something. You know, It's like it's boundary. You just gotta communicate.

And I have just seen that was the time. That was the time that on me and my best friend, where we were hanging out every day. Speak for all the guys. There was a time that he and I were hanging out every day. But you know that time changed. You know, as we got older, I ended up in a serious relationship, So of course we're not going to be together every day. He got married, you know, so as as as we've grown, I was friendship has changed too, But it doesn't mean that we love each other any left.

It's just as you And it happens with female friends too. Yeah, you know what. One of my really good friends owns the studio we're recording here right now. I know him since I was in high school and he's really goofing. I know his wife, his kids, everything. He's an amazing guy. Oh boy, I can do that. I give them there, I take the heppen And you don't think you can. I think you know it. Doesn't want to say this.

You own this story in Chicago Fleet Club, right, I'm sure a lot of women hit you up for gear and sneakers and clothes and all of that. So that is like sort of a relationship friendship. Do you become friends? Because if they say, like, and this is crazy women that do that ship and I want them to hear and understand this. If you sit and say, yo, can I get X, Y and Z because you might got some Instagram fathers. Can I repost this promotion whatever the funk is supposed to be, right? Or if I can

get this for a deal whatever? What if I reply back to that, can I fuck you? No? Hold on? I would be wrong for that, right, I don't do that. But how do you come off just saying you're taking from me? This is why ladies don't ask these men for nothing you think about it, No, I'm just keeping the funky something. Come that with. Think I didn't get to pay people to post things? Right, if you want to post that's a promo for your basics. You could always say no for sure, But it's always saying like,

understand what I'm what it takes me. You probably look at your store like, oh, I really like your stuff, you know what I mean, I really you know. That's not what she's saying. See what I'm saying. She's coming straight through like can I get you? Want to build herself up some more? And I rock with you? So hey, don't be down to don't know me, not like the store I'm talking about you. I will not ever be that girl asking people to say be more to one who I've never done, keeping it for real and it

does nothing. So God, I did nothing just because I had to understand and learn. You know, I even did business kind of wrong, like meaning I looked at people who didn't have much going on for themselves, like they had a lot of time in their hands. Are you perfectly work for me? But now it's it's gotta be you got a lot on your hands. I could pay you to work for me, honestly, because you can take me places where I can't go. My thing can add

for sure. So it'll be somebody looking at from a small mind, somebody who haven't been well traveled, saying, oh she got this many followers on Instagram. Boy, you ship he doesn't turn to a fan and a local fan because she keep posting that her body and all this bullshit, but I get her money. Bullshit is about like it ain't like I don't think really have social media. If you don't really got nothing in life going on, you ain't selling nothing you and it should be you gotta

sign up for this ship. And I say this they you know they got to like swimsuit deals and stuff. Girls. Really she's traveling and she got a bikini like it may look like, but no, no, no, you should have something going on that you gotta sign It can't be because you can be tricked too, you know. It's another side to that. The same thing is say get out here,

cashop you some money. We don't even notice thing that girls be dead media like to keep in touch with a family and friends, but to like you could be private and only let your friends and family certain things. I understand what you're saying, because there's so much money to be made on the internet. If you're not making

money on there, what are you doing there? That's all because like your financial situation, Like before you got signed, I was on the internet, like doing them little promo deals and you know, get out, because that's what I'm saying, you're internet. Yeah, yeah, you was doing something with a with a plan and something that's different selling something to

your consumer. You make music, you know, just trying to figure out social media, trying to make some money because I got my mom and my ear Like, girl, what you're doing with your life? I think you would have did if the music thing wouldn't happened. At first. I played soccer since I was seven and I stopped when I was nineteen, and I wanted to like be that girls on the US team and go to the World

Cup and stuff. But that rapid. But I also was going to go to school for communication, like broadcast communication. I want to be the girl on on the court, like you know, you just you can't still do that too. That now you have the song standards, which you know it is important to have standards, right, So talk to me about what your standards are in life when it comes to men tall right about what about such a

controversial question. I mean, let me ask you this. If a guy was six four but his penis was really small, would you prefer that or a guy who was five five but with a huge penis? If you have to pick tall and small or short and long bringing the tripod, hello's gonna. I would say tall talk with a little dick. It's no use it. It's not disproportionate too, and got the is it like skinny? It's just small. It's just small, disproportionate is it's not giving the short end bring on

the trip just the short guy? But you want to got to be your boyfriend now because in my relationship I yet down and if I can't now I'm keep on looking what it doesn't? You know? Have you ever done there before? What she did on one of your boyfriends? It's more I was just thinking, like I'll be like I'm done, I'm blocking you. Then I do something I haven't actually I haven't. Have you ever been a side check.

I don't know. I don't not, but because I feel like you've had a side guy, I feel like it's a topic. I just gotta understand. You might always start. I think everybody start. Is that everybody said it's a side that everybody, but everybody a lot of everybody had somebody, but you had somebody that's already in their life, relationship, break up, what you're going. It's always that one person that you know is in your life and she's gonna

be there. So before you could be number one, but you gotta know how to be number two before you could be number one. Have a situation. I'm not if you're my side, I'm not gonna make you my man. It's like you didn't have the qualities to be made in the first place. And that's why he doesn't read hash techy just come out. It just might not be that way. Have you ever moved from the side check to the main check? No, I come in like you already know. I hope to see listen. I don't know

for real, but in my head is enough. But I come in, Yeah, come in like you know what I'm on. Like one we asked asked one day, think of shot. I don't know. I always it's like, kay, let go, even if you if they did something, and it's still it's still the calling and the damn. I really like, you know, like that. I don't know how. I don't know how he spe for me. I'm very possessive. I remember even when I was a teenager, you know, I

like this guy. I remember he was. He he was like, he had like a nice caramel color and green eyes. He was one of the first guys that I've ever been with with green eyes. No, he was Jamaican like he was. Yeah, he had like hazel green eyes. He was so fine and he and I was we were having a nice time. I used to go sleep in his house and hang out with him and his mom.

And then one day I knew that he had this girlfriend that he had broke up with, like maybe a couple of months before he and I started sleeping together and they got back together, and he was like, listen, I'm just telling you because I'll respect you and and I want you to know I don't want to stop seeing you, but I'm back with my girl. And I was like, you love your girls so much that right, And I was like got something I was I always I wanted to be number one. I can't exactly, but Callie,

you tweeted something out that was interesting. Okay, he had thus, but I'm making a slut. How do you make a guy? What makes a guy slept? Just being nasty? Come her sluck? Yeah, and like any time I said I'd be like this when I'm on at any moment, like you gotta be on go like I don't care hard, like I'm sorry. I like to so sexy and you're nasty. You're aggressive in the bedroom. You do a lot of initiating when

it comes to sex. Yes, but I like when a guy is more aggressive than me, Like, make me shut that down. I'd like to be sittings, yes, but it's rare because he needs to be acting. Who do you consenting? Nasty? Great question? What's nasty to you? Um? Just like somebody want to just devour every single part of your body at any type, in any moment. Spinning your mouth, like

spitting in the mouth is trendy right now. Spitting in the mouth is the number one answer when we asked what do you think it is nasty on this That's why it's the number one answer. Because I feel like, but it is nasty. That's nasty. It's here, but I feel like it's maybe last year or so. It's been very trendy, and especially like Stephanie said, what you people that question? Right Angela at the top of the list and eating your ass? You said, can you eat your

spin your mouth? Oh wow? Yeah? Okay about snowballing? Is that like a formal small good hygiene? What I before? What about sex in your period? I'm down with that? Yeah, Like what's the problem for sure? You like you said stop number the sin? Would you eat a period? What if you had a tap? I'm not doing that either. I've definitely had that done because you didn't tell them. You want to see it handed down from a man and a woman and a woman know what's going on

down there? Where? Yeah? You clean, If you're clean, and you're first of all, you focus on the click anyway, you're not even down bad. So touch string and just yeah I couldn't really like copper. They're like touch there. It's to make sure your mom doesn't even go Now tap and you go the only twenty To me, you're kind of a baby. But have you ever done an No, you think you would consider it. See, I only did the thumb thing, and I don't like that's a little bit.

Guy comes in handy, it's cool, But I don't know, baby, maybe maybe you get it, but like it's still got to be a conversation for real, Like I may need the whole bot on my period. So yeah, I don't know. Maybe what about Have you had a guy come in your face? Yes, she's crazy, Yes, it's just come out with listen to the next album he said, yeah, yeah, okay, you're looking around like your mom? What's my best friend? Mom?

But she like kind of raised me a little bit too, so she like looking at me like, girl, like what did you just say? From what she? Should? You know? Why? Honestly listening to your music, you are very open and very sexual. Yeah, which I don't find the problem with it that it's about. It's empowering to be able to talk about things that you do. This is really you know that's happening, Like you know this his life is really,

this is what's really going on. Can't be scared to say like, yeah, yeah, this is what I'll be doing. So get with the gang. You listen to it. What's your what's your trick that you do, like in the bedroom for a guy that you're like, this is my special ship because everybody got a little special something. Finish him, finish a move? What should finish a move on the tiptoes? With the grip? I think? Okay, yeah, yeah, that grip trick. Yeah, with the grip? What's the grip? You don't think the

definitely you never had a pus grip? Yeah, I didn't know what it was called the grip. That's more like visual. What about toys, by the way that we wants to advertise on here? I just you know, I love the woman. Can we please? Can y'all send me one right now? Y'all have your box? So, caddie, have you used any toys? I only use a vibrator? Okay, yeah, that's nice. Have you used it during sex or just by yourself? She said? Yeah?

Why during That's what I want to ask. Just one. Yeah, it through so he couldn't get it, not necessarily because he is. It's part of it. Yeah, it's an experience, another layer, you know what I'm saying. Because he couldn't do it, it's a different thing. He's doing it, doing it more. It's a battery so I'm gonna get you a right. So answer and Angela's questions to Collie of a good move not my give him girl move right. But one of my goal too is I and it's

actually one of my favorite positions. So I like to lay flat on my stomach with my legs crossed so everything is really really tight, and then I throw it back from that way in the position right. So in that moment, take the vibrator and put it on my vagina, put it on my clip while he's in me from the back. That's amazing. So that's when you use the toy. It's not because you're not doing what you supposed to be doing, but it's just adding the letter of another

list what I'm saying. But at the end of the day, how do you think of do with fields? If you're doing this thing that was like, it's not that you need it, you know, I just try and be a little What does he trying? What you mean to be to try to listen? It's the best pleasing women. What do you think when you have sex? Is the goal to please the woman or just to please yourself? It is for sure to please the woman of pleasure. That's a battery did that. That's not me, Camber, your first

organ battery helped. I can't keep up with the bad. Yeah, it was with the vibrator to see the rose we got. We just drossed the roses. They said it to thank you people, thank you. It came out of nowhere. I was like, here's the thing with the rose though, sipping moderation, because that thing is powerful. But it got the level. It's the level you level, even even in the only charged battery is wells in you there. I used the

rods about it like there's no way. It was just like and I went and look, I'm looking at the reviews, like, am I the only one that felt like this. I'm like, there's no way that Because I kept hearing about it, I'm like, let me tell you seventeen second orgasm. Okay, and Jesus you have your way from swamp squirting. So so you know what we're gonna get you one of those. The Womanizer is very similar to the roads. It does the same thing. So you should sell some of these

in the fleet club roses. Yeah, it sounds like I should tell us. He said, it's not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing. And you shouldn't be intimidated about the ways I've been squirted on before. Do you like it? Of course I love it. He's nasty. I was gonna say the same thing. We don't even like it because it's a mixture from your bladders. It's weird. It's very weird. But you have toxic chocolate out right now? Do you consider yourself toxic? Um? Yeah, I have like toxic.

I call them toxic tantrum. So okay, that's so I can be toxic if you take me there, I'm gonna be toxic with you. You know. I consider like my friend Black call you some toxic. But really they mean like if you won't play games, I'm going to play them right back with you. Just explain being a Gemini. And but if you bring it out, you're gonna get Because my little tea is I can be loyal. But when you do that one thing, they give me like the each a little bit it okay, yeah, I mean listen,

I honestly really enjoyed this project. First of all, you had some artists that I love right now on it as features. I love hearing you by yourself. But like I said, beers on their money law, I mean, right now, let her love her project. And then you had Young Blue on there also you on you, So it's like a tip for that situation. What's the worst of you on your situation you've had. And sometimes you gotta show guys like what they do so that they get a taste of what it's like to do it back to them.

So I was dealing with this one guy and I actually really like liked him for real, for real, and like the way he was kicking it to me, it was like he was just like to me, he was like dreaming, like oh, I can't believe it's too good to be true. But then once I found out about the situation or whatever, I was like, what situation? Just basically like he I hear you whoever is given the

time of day, you know what I mean? And maybe feel like he was honestly kind of like playing my emotions like I'm not gonna like I can't find nobody, you know what I mean, Like I'm not that girl. I think he forgot that. So I was like, you know what, I kept it playing. I was like, you know what, that's cool. So I went I started talking to this other guy whatever he's the other boys started calling my phone. Sure what that was both six phones? So why don't you make a song for basketball players?

That's what you like. You don't gotta be one basketball playing But that's trying to tell you listen to me. That's your range. I that's what six phones. You're gonna find a bunch of them exitely short basketball player. But no, I'm saying you get a pick of them. Listen to him. It's that to the kiddy, get your marketing scheme out six or six fast, six nine seven ft for real? Anyway, old you like him? Not the tall guys, then I don't think it's not that maybe like like six seven

seven to stop right now? Yeah, sorry about this guy, So go ahead. What happened and you on you? Oh? Basically I started talked to this guy he had basketball player. I know I was right, I knew yeah, but I actually still have feelings for other guy. But he started asking me like, oh, as you talking to is just like it to somebody else, but the potential are you

doing this? And that? Yes I am, And it was just like he felt like he actually said, oh wow, like you feel like you you gotta do me like that? Like it was like you on your situation, like he was just like he didn't have nothing to say. But in the day, I still ended up talking to the basket you talk to the first time I went back, then I you on you, then you went back, and then then what happened after you went back? Right, it just you shouldn't have shouldn't have went back, should have

went bad. It just made it more toxic. Yeah, you're young, You're gonna sun up and make mistakes. Yeah, it's all learning like you out here every day. I know, I know for a fact a lot to learn. And but you having fun. Yeah, I think that's the main thing. Like we learned to laugh on the mistakes that we made in our life. You can't tell nobody nothing. Sometimes you gotta go through that ship to learn it yourself.

Like somebody could tell you what to do logically, but if you decide no, that ain't even if you got to keep doing it over, you know, learning the lesson over until you finally get that. You think you've been in love, Yeah, I only been in love one time. Well one guy and the one with the Google link. Uh ship, Okay, I want to send me to Google link that won't hurt. Could he come back now? No, absolutely not. I'm definitely gonna hit him with about was

that about him? No, that was just saying so that was just like, oh what could I What could I say? You know that goes with the hit them with, you know, right, So yeah, she most definitely couldn't not come back. Well, Callie, we thank you so much for coming through on Lift Service and we're we're honestly like listening to toxic Chocolate. It's a lot of things that we cover on the show.

So we love you for being open and honest. And I can't wait to see where you go from here, honestly because you only twenty one years are you're still a baby? Yeah? Am I? Yeah? Twenty when I'm just thinking about what I was doing when I was twenty one years ship man, somebody told me I was a baby when I was twenty one. I look at them like saying, grown a baby. Yeah, And look, congratulations on everything you have going on, like they go really hard

for you. And to see all the people that have sunk with you, you know, and to the EP that even you know, we was rocking out too, I think that's so it's amazing. I think you're great like for women to be able to relate to and for men to vibe out to. So congratulations and cheers, cheers. Your favorite song talk to Chocolate. I'm gonna say I like the song with money long, yeah a lot. But I also love beer and I like how y'all both go back and forth on that one. Yeah, that definitely, And

I like the topic of that because it's fast. It's because yeah, we're not about to get right, but I like but I always say, like, you gotta respect the box and for any guy that wants to have sex, you got it regardless, you've got to eat it for take it at her. It's like you gotta ask for parents hand in marriage. It's kind of like that you gotta ask the pussy for like is it okay? Right exactly? I gotta take care of you first, but yes, and lip service before entry there you go. Alright, But Catty,

thank you so much for coming through. And I know we're gonna see you again. So next time I look back at this and be like, remember when he was on the show, remember the taxi chocolate me to say like that, Okay, whoa do remember at all? She do remember the first time she came rude. So this road is crazy that one guys don't have toys like the way we have to. We don't have a toy for him. Yes, okay for real, Yes, I need the real deal. What if it had on like wardrobe department? Nothing, I need

the real y'all don't realize. Man, that's stuff between y'all. That's something that's a killer. Came not imagine to that. No blow up dolls. I don't know. All this funny ship they'd be doing ain't nothing from imagine to real woman menage. Somebody going company reached out to to make a life size doll masturbation doll of me. You want to that. I'm not gonna do it because they want to, you know they want you should do No, absolutely no, that's weird and we got me. Thank you for everybody

who supports me and anybody who would want that. You know, I'm not judging your likes. You know you should do it. You know that you know the sex offenders in your timeline that I thought, I promise you. They said that they will only make sixty of them or something like that that would sell out the first day, will sell out the first day. I know, and they told me the price. I won't say that what the price was. But it's not even a bad It wasn't even at it because you don't got the price a I got

all the phone was gonna make. But it's no, it's a whole promo run and they will have to they want to mold of the cars. Yeah, and that way. No, that's like giving the secret of my boxs not the same to see this guy, Christy white Man, just no stream the album. No, the internet is now, because then people do weird someto. I get real weird deal. Somebody will end up behind that sending me a video like, oh thank you, No, sir, that's gonna make your stomach

to watch. You watch the video when I watched the video. No, I'm gonna click on and see what it is. Do you have any videos? Of course? Yeah, she do doing me like that video, a few of them. You can have a poker face. You gotta work on your day. She didn't you know how you know what she's about that she don't want to say. She's like that. She'd be confused. She'd be like, it's real cringey when you're trying to not tell the truth. But it's it's hard for me actually not to tell that. Yeah, and I

laugh about everything. Like when I I'll just be like, caught, I could. I feel like you could see it. He'd be like, did you come. She'd be like because, like, no, going to say, I did not think this would be a conversation like this. So I'm like, oh, Cally, you knew what it was. I did it though I didn't. I purposely didn't like go. I went into this like, oh, so it can be like organic, so I can, you know,

just be talking, you know, Yeah, you said I liked y'all. Though, yeah, I think it goes right along with the with the toxic chocolate. We appreciate you, thank you lift service, and thanks Boom you have little toxic too. You're definitely talk to chocolate now.