Episode 350: The Black D*ck Will Rule (Feat. Maino)

be here. Angela Coles, I'm it doesn't matter what it is. B RF. You just got that upgrade. Just emote you to just the R Because apparently Mayno has a restaurant that he hasn't invited none of us to family business. And I would really love for y'all to come by. Okay, now this is officials invite, So tell us about this restaurant. Is the Chelsea House. It's in Chelsea. It's dopeful. You can get a seafood. Boy, you're there. It's a good vibe. It's something like like when you go to Atlanta, you

might go to Copper Cove. That's the vibe right there. This is our this is us right here, this is this is a vibe right with with rappers. Feel free to come by. You know last week we had gonna come by him in future. Came by, um, you know Fabris dead regularly. You know me, Jim and or Davis was there last night, like y'all need some ladies, no ladies, come now play with you. Came by. I just see a wedding together that oh wow. And she was an

extra hype about it. She was dancing and everything right that like, and she was talking about it before we went up to cast the bouquet. Now you know me, I wasn't trying to cast the bouquet. I was filming her, her catching the bouquet. Your hands was full and my hand was full. I didn't want it. It's a lot of ladies. It's it's like a ladies spot by. Oh yeah, a lot of a lot of people, a lot of people.

Now you're really into food, which I've never knew until you started doing the kitchen talk, and then I came there. You had the caterer and everything got the cook there shout out to pearls monrole. So when you come you know, the kitchen talk. We provide the vibe. So it's not a cooking show. It's not about food, right, So for me, the kitchen is where we hang out at right in the house, right before you go out, you're in the kitchen. You can't gating when you come back from the club.

You can't getting the kitchen, you understand. And then it's a metaphor for the street though, because you know, we go to the kitchen when we go outside, and you understand, we go get it right right. It's also like the back of our hair. It's funny because we don't provide no food. We just give you all drinks. No, that's it, get you drunk and you start talking crazy. We actually don't provide food for that reason. Go. But seriously, I

didn't know you were like, are you a foodie? You know, I wouldn't say I'm a foodie because I feel like my brother Rick is really a foodie, like he really is into food. But I feel like certain things make people comfortable, right, So I said, if I'm gonna do this show, I want to make people comfortable. We're in the kitchen already, you know, if we got a female chef, females in the in the room. It make it's comfortable. Right,

So it's like, create the vibe. We got some alcohol and whatever you like, like who you know, whatever it is. Whatever the vibe is that you like, we can create that and the food is just gonna make you feel even better, like, oh world. So it's just at home vibe. Like we're sitting there and we're kicking it, we're talking, we're laughing, and you know, and been then and it's been, it's been a hit. I like your co host. I like that you're very comfortable speaking around women, which I

think is a good thing. Right, So most men are not a lot of minute we've spoken to you, I feel like have not been as comfortable until they had like round two of a drink that I've brought a lot of podcasts is like if a guy's on it, it'd be like all dudes, you know what I'm saying, right. See. I don't like that because I feel like I didn't want to create a situation where it's like I'm always the hero, i always know what I'm talking about, I'm always the master, I'm always the best. Noah, It's not

like that. Life is not like that, you know, I'm you know, I got friends fortunately in my life that they're like, Nick, you don't know the you're talking about. So I like that. I like the contention that we don't always agree. So because you get a males perspective from things and then you get a female's perspective and in those things, and although they clash, the listener gets to tap into both, you know, areas. But something you say you learned about women that you didn't know before

most recently, Um wow, y'all never let up. You don't take a day off. Y'all, don't take a day off over over overthinking? Right, It's like it's thoughts to everything. It's like damn, damn, I say your big ange what you mean big? Yeah? I would say that if everything is that, I don't take a good man. I was on vacation a lot, right, so that's one of the things I noticed stuff. So it's safe to say. You like to eat. I like to eat. I love to

eat everything. Are you overthinking? Yeah, but I'll do that too. Do you understand what we're talking What you're talking about? Everything good? I mean, you think you got good at it? And with food, eating, eating every do you think you got good at everset because I feel like, no guy, Oh I forgot you've been here in a while. But you know it is Listen, guys are usually not good at it, like off back. So how do you think you got good at it to practice? I listen, I'm

gonna be honest with you. Don't like I like beautiful women. I don't even want a woman that I can't look at her and say that I want to do that. You know what I'm saying. I want to desire her to the point where I say, God damn, I want to put my mouth for her. This is what I want to say. I want to fantasize about her. I want to be an ultimate lust with her when I'm looking at her. I want to be thinking about her that way. If I can't have that thought of her

in that way, I don't even want to play with it. Okay, So you never ate a pussy that you wasn't really like that into the woman. He definitely young man though. See first, I'm not giving up my clown like that. Like even it's either I'm gonna do it or I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna play with it. I'm going to really do it. I'm not gonna do it at all. Like I mean, it's up to you if it happens or not. Now, if there's something going on down there, then I don't need to business down there.

You understand you don't even need a business in the room then period. Yeah right, yeah, But sometimes you already committed and you gotta finish. Car You never have to finish. Times you got to do it for the ladies. Have y'all ever backed out of a situation like, because I don't. I don't think women feel like happening here right now. I'm telling you the times that we committed that were like fine, I gotta you know, But there's times when we've backed out. Yeah, there was there was. Yeah, I

can say I backed out. I've never been backed out on. I backed out because I couldn't handle it. It was too much. Sorry, man, you never been backed out on. No, we don't change the whole concept. I didn't mean that I didn't need to do it like you. But it's okay, but to see me but that was my personal But he allowed you to buy gout. Yeah, what's he gonna do?

May I'm just saying, like, come on, backed out, but not in the middle of the act that moment were already there already, so we need write a story to you know, I always gotta stay. So we spoke about this before I had I thought about you, right, I had, you know, she know I had laser rejuvenation to my vagina. Okay, So there was a laser that tightened me up. And there was a guy that I was, you know, having some fun with prior to the laser, so he was used to when he used to be like and then

after laser, it's a little different. And he came in trying them same moves, and I had to tap out medical conditions. Medical okay, like you had an excuse and it's to somebody that that that that you have been with prior. Yeah, he had to understand that he had to respect it because I'm pretty sure he knew that you went and did it up. Yeah, yeah, okay, so

that's that's a plausible reason here. So he was good trying to I've changed my mind at the last minute because the guy's panis was so smart and feel like I could do it. I didn't know, And then I was like and then I was like, I don't think we're ready for this. And that was so like he just took his pants off and you just looked like it was terrible. Okay, it was a medical condition. Something got that out there. No, but I really did because I was like, you know, you kind of don't want

to waste a body on that, like because that's a body. Yeah, that's then you let a minute your joint because if I did, it would have just been for sympathy, like, yeah, you feel bad, do the chicken nuggets? Man? Yeah, so that's the only well maybe not the only time. Yeah,

I'm pretty sure I've done it before too. If I'm committed, I'm committed because if you here's what happens, right, if you get up and go to the bathroom and I'm halfway thinking about it, that will be like, man, and you come back, I'll be dressed, all right, you never did that? Change your mind? And then he's like I'll be right back. And then you're like, you know, how did he handle that? Go after that? What can you say? Because if he asks, if he asks, fact up, then

you'd be glad you didn't do it. He still got to be cool because he might think later on it could still happen yet exactly that it's not even playing because you could just really be on the fence and not sure it's gonna happen. And then how far did you get? Did you take your clothes off? Put my clothes, yeah, put my clothes back on him that's not on the fence, clean off, you know, do something in the bathroom and

came back and lost his chance. Yeah, because sometimes I feel like this in the bedroom, right, And I feel like this for guys to Like, if you want to do something to a guy, you shouldn't really ask him first. You just try and then see because sometimes if you ask a guy doesn't sound right to him. Ask him like what like if you want to try something maybe that he's never done before, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's I forgot my show. This. I forgot, like it's been

it's been a while. Like if you're gonna do something to a girl and you're not sure she if she'll like it, you're not gonna be like, it's okay for put my finger in you, but you'll just do it, right, you know? Is it okay? If I spin in your mouth? You would just do it. I don't like to spit in the mouth thing. Yeah, now they do that. But I'm just saying if you were going to do something like that and that more people like to do it.

We keep hearing about my mouth and don't be like they'd be like, spit in my mouth and I'll be like, you don't want to spit in my mouth, and I'll be like, I don't like that. Ship I don't want I don't want you to slide in my mouth like that. That's just something that you don't know what to do with. Anybody swallow it? Did you have curry play like that? So would you say that you're a freak or not? Really?

What constitute a freak? Like if somebody asked you if you were talking to a girl and she's like, are you a freak? Possibly? Yes? Yeah? Possibly? I mean I don't think that I'm outrageous. I don't think i'd do anything, you know, out the ordinary, like a traditional Yeah traditional, you know, put me in my place and sit on my face? Can put me in my place? Comes that fun? Okay, sit on your face? You like that? What would you say that you do this a little like out of

the ordina? I don't think I do nothing out of the ordinary. Nothing no, I don't think you know, I think sex or sex all that is. It's pretty standard nowadays. But if a girl's like slap me, oh no, I did oh? I did like role play before nice, I did role play play white women women have a white woman? I just okay, I didn't know women. What what was this? Beautiful woman? To shut up? What you're talking about it? Did you like that? Huh? What was the role? This

feels like it's gonna be so wrong. It's so wrong. I'm gonna tell you right now. I've never talked about this. I like to be like a runaway slave now ship, Oh my god. I like to play like a runaway slave. Okay, like a disobedient slave with a white woman. Tell me like what you say? Yes, sorry, it's two of them. Like it's like me getting whooped, right, you get whooped. I played like whipping. But most of them don't want to play like that. Is like, well, white women goes

along with this. They don't want to play like that. They don't. This is mys like, listen, you're gonna act like your masterest husband wife and I just got by master. But the whole time you've been really you know, man balling me. This sounds like some freaky porn, right, this some freaky ship. And then I'm gonna I'm gonna come all sweaty, right, just finished getting whooped, and you're gonna say no, Billy Joe nons it's not gonna like it. He's not gonna like it. Had done along with this

and done this. He's speaking from experience. Nobody really went along with it. Like I s get up on the wall and said, come on, let's act it out. And he's like, man, are you crazy? What if they call you the N word? See? This is this is because this comes with it. This is where it goes deep, and this is where I'll probably be canceled that go ahead. I don't know if I can say this, say it. I'm gonna takes advice. This is really want to know. I don't know because it's not right. But this is

a fantasy stuff. Stay in in the fantasy where in a fantasy world, I've never nobody's ever did it. So the other fantasy is that they whipping me and they're calling me a nigger. Right, so let's say you want that. It's crazy. You feel weird after nah, because at the end of the day, the black dick will rule. Oh my god, I do know this woman who used to have sex with this white guy and he used to

call her like the N word and everything. He used to pay her though to have sex, who used to call the guy the white guy to say that to her like, yeah, that's different, but she allowed, like she was okay with you. That's but that's kind of the meaning. I don't know if this is the same fantasy now,

Like I said, no body's done that. Did you see that play, the slave play on Brow You should go see it because it actually in that play that actually happens, because in my mind, I feel like there were slaves fucking that's anywhere. That's what I'm saying. You got to see this go to slave that that keeps getting this ass whoop. You definitely would have been in the house too. I wouldn't have been in the house, did you brown paper bag? But I'm negative. I don't know how to

follow rule. So that's me. I'm not asking some negative have been in the house regardless, because your grandfather was there. Runaway slave. That was Yeah, my foot off, cut my foot off, the foot off. This is awesome. Will still be fucking Oh my god, I just want to say, this is just Maino's fantasy, right, it's not a real thing. I don't want to don't come, yeah, can't Yeah, okay, yeah, because is very worried about me right now, she's I am to Yeah, it's very worried about Let me ask

you this. What is something that you've said no to? May know? Ain't let you? No? Girl put her finger and right, we don't play like that. Has anybody tried it? Girls? If you don't, some girls would would try like they try to try. They act like they down man how to do it? You understand. But if it's a white women calling you the N word that she first of all, it has to be if I'm in the fantasy mode, it's whole welcome to me. No, no, hell no, we

can't play like that fantasy. Just making sure this makes because you gotta understand that going on here, it's me from the bottom, me being a slave, really overpowering masters master's wife wife. We get with this. What makes yeah right? And the whole thing is that she acts like she don't want it, but she really she really do. She's been wanting it. Why she's sitting there. I'm on a plantation. I'm about this sweating like a motherfucking she over there

watching this is crazy. Have you watched porn like this? They have that. I feel like they have to sounds. I don't know, it sounds like it might. Yeah, they made anything under the son. I just didn't seen that one. We gotta see. I think Sara Jay is coming up here, so maybe she oh you do stars, maybe we could get this in. Man, do you see yourself getting married one day? What? I'm just got thrown off from a

question do you see yourself ever getting married? Because I was just at a wedding and I was like thinking to myself while I was there, I was like, do I see myself ever getting married? It was a beautiful experience married Mary. I'm not against marriage. I just think that people get married for the wrong reasons. I feel like a lot of us get married, you know, looking

to find off. I think that who you married, you know, if you if you marry a person that was an asshole before you married them, They're still gonna be an asshole after the marriage. The marriage is not gonna change people. I think we have the wrong outlook on what marriage is, and we put so much emphasis on the actual marriage itself,

that we're not putting emphasis on ourselves. So the thing is, you know, I'm not against it, and I can't never say never, but it's not something that I actually really give a lot of thought to. Have you ever been close to it? Like, oh, well you was a quick answer. Yeah, you never was, laying in be like I can marry her. You never went rain shopping. No, Because I'm thinking that the matter, Because the way I think about it, I think I feel like marriage should just be the last

step to what is already there. We should already feel should already live like we we should already you know, our soul should already be dancing and intertwined with one another. We should already be connected spiritually immensely. Right, it should be already. We should already be a union, the ceremony, the actual standing in front of the priests. That should just be the ice is on the cake to something

that already is opposed to the other way around. So, you know, if I'm already in an organic situation like that and it feels that way, and then we wake up one morning and say, you know what, let's just let's just do it, I think people do it that other way around. This is why it doesn't want reasons. Yeah I don't. Yeah, I don't feel like you should get married thinking that things would be great after you get married. They gotta be great before you get women

maybe like I'm a whole wife. Okay, your whole wife, but that your husband is a whole same type of he always been husband, still got bitches. What's what's the difference? This whole thought? An idea of just being a wife or just being married for the sake of what society says.

You know, right, it's like you should be married, you know, so you feel like a husband shouldn't have other women when you're married, you should just be with your worn wife, and you feel like her husband shouldn't have MESSI no, no, no, no, that's not what I feel like. If a guy has pictures that makes him not a husband. It depends on a woman if she's if she's okay with it, and it's okay with me. But what I'm saying is that most women in that situation, they want to live a

monogamous marriage. Right, So a lot of women have that degree of thought when it comes to their marriage, Like I've just married this nigger and you know it's just us, but right here, A lot of times that's not as realistic as we think all we supposed to be together for one person forever. Is that really really realistic? Does

that go for women too? Yes? Okay, yes, because when you change up, you change up when you're done with then when you'll changed, and it's when you're whatever switch is hit, when y'all fed up and you're done, you're like a whole different person. So it's like love never was. It's like it never had been because you'll become totally different. But I don't think that love has never been. It's just personally speaking. When I was in that predicament, it was just that I've had all that I can take

and I couldn't take no more indeed. But it didn't delete the presence of the love that was there. But the way you, the way you might have made the nigga feel like way because you was just a total different person after that at that point, I kind of wants you to feel that way though, when we're getting to that point. He wants you to feel like you wasn't ship never right. You turn, you look at her, You're like damn she damn, she's so cold like, But it takes a lot for a woman to get to that.

When you'll do, when y'all do, y'all do so all we meant to be with each other forever. I think it's different for everything. Choice yeah, two choice. And I also feel like it's at a certain point in your life. Like I feel like, once you've experienced a lot of things and you lived your life, you might feel like, I just want to be with one person for the rest of my life. I'm good now. I don't did

everything chill like I could do it. I'm not missing ship because it really there ain't shipped out here like that. Once you get to a certain point, you're like, I just want to be in my situation, be comfortable, be stable, be happy. That's also a level of mature. Yeah, that's that right, there is the mature thing to feel. And at points I think men, I think for us, we battle with that. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like a man could get to that point, but he doesn't stay there,

you know what I mean, So I don't. I don't feel like you can say that a manner is in a husband just because he's a cheeter, well, and I feel like this too. And I also feel like at times like it's hard for me to determine whether men went a woman who was really sick, successful and busy or not, because sometimes I feel like men who are really successful don't want a woman who is doing her thing, you know what I'm saying, What do you think about

I'm attracted to successful women. But on the flip side, sometimes you want a woman to just do certain things for you that you would feel like, this is my woman, like you know, sometimes the successful woman, you know, because of her grind, she may not have the time to do some of those things that we will with cryer mh.

But it doesn't it doesn't make it any less different though it's it's still it's still the same because you still would love all the same way though, right So, But um, I don't know, I personally like a successful woman. I'm personally more attracted to a woman that I feel like don't need me really okay, because some guys like women to feel like yeah and feel like, um, a lot of guys they wanna save, they want to save

a girl, you know, intimidates them. I feel like this is one of my biggest problems in vating, right, because it makes them feel inferior because I don't need anything from a guy, just loving attention and makes some weird sometimes for men. A lot of men, you gotta remember, like a lot of men, they deal a lot of insecurities, a lot of them not as confident as they seem. And sometimes the money the trink is, you know, the things that we see, you know, helps with your confidence.

It covers what's really there. Right, you don't know if this person is really the niggy because right what we see is the image of it of them, you know. Um, So when you get a girl that that needs you more than you need her, it probably makes them feel better, right, They feel most solid because now I can I can change your life, or I can help her in a situation and she looks to me, you know, So that

that is a thing for some men, you know. Yeah, it's a balanced because then sometimes guys get like angry if you need them too much, you know what I'm saying, Like if they feel like it's just a weird balance that you have to figure out that that's not a good place for a lot of women to be anyway. Yeah, Yeah, I just feel like guys have absolutely nothing to offer me. I have so much to offer and guys have nothing for me, Like I have everything that a guy could

offer me. No, I'm not even talking about anything, Like I have so much to offer. Besides, just as a person, I have so much to offer. I'm a guys at least the guys that i've I don't know, I can't. I don't want to talk about about about the guys that I've been with. But I'm just saying, you know, I like to learn, Like I feel like a guy could provide me with knowledge, teach you. Nothing is exactly, but it's like at this point, I'm I feel like

I'm the one who's always teaching. But maybe you just yeah, maybe you're right. So like if you're not learning nothing from any can't show you'll teach you something or you can't a matter of fact, That's what I'm saying, Like I have so much to offer. I could do so much for for a person in my life, whether it's somebody I'm dating or somebody that's just my friend. If I have a lot to offer, Yes, Okay, let's just let's make up a scenario. May know, what could you

offer Stephanie. Direction and correction, correction and correction. That was just it was that was just some selection to say that was a song. Listen. No, I mean I feel like a man is to provide direction, definitely lead ship A managed to be a leader, right, So I mean I feel like, you know, I know that you were being funny, but that kind of sounded good correction because it sounds like service. It sounds like you're helping. I'm helping.

But no, no direction is right though, because I want to provide outside of what monetary and you know, outside of those roles like direction in life though, like if I want to be able to teach her and show her things and and maybe to help um guide her in the right direction you understand and into doing things like So, it's not about me giving you the bag. Sometimes it's about me showing you how to get it

for yourself, you understanding. It's about us coming, you know, making the bag that you already have a bigger one, you make it together. But that comes from actually learning. So it's like let me put you onto this and then but that's that that's a given take thing because as people, right, we should be learning from each other, right, and that's that's how I feel. I feel like I have even in the situation you're saying, like, I I feel like a guy being with me I can make

him a billionaire? What type of is you talking about? Though? Like I'm just saying like I'm just saying any any guy who gets with me. It's like dumb, Like, what's you mean? Who's that? This is the way you're speaking about men? Is that as if the niggas that you deal with or have been dealing with is just so a b E level that you know, No, it's just even I have to say, the guys that I've deal with,

I don't think they're slashes. I think there there's every guy I've been with as a successful man, you know, um god bless him, they've they've done well in their lives. But I still feel like being with me is kind of upgrade. Well upgrade you should have that confidence? Baby? Yes, what is this giving? Though? I feel like, so what is it giving? Something? Giving? I mean that cow is definitely hot. No one, we're normal, we're normal ty sure. Now let me ask you this. Do you feel like

your taste has changed? Right? And people like we were looking at that that podcast, The Pivot podcast. Channing Crowder's podcast, he was talking about Russell Wilson and Sierra and he was saying that how do you go from future to Russell Wilson? And he's saying this years with him for the money and there's no way you can change that. But I also feel like sometimes being in a relationship that didn't work for you can't make you really like do a one eight and date a whole different type

of person. Absolutely right, that's true, And I don't really feel like it's really no placeful nego to be saying that though about another Negato really honestly like, who am I to be saying? It was very hard. It felt like he has him personal he must have lost a bad actually maybe maybe maybe do him don't really get along. I don't know. Don't make sense that you're speaking about it, dude, you're saying you're cool with but I don't know. But

I I just changed, though. Would you say, like, because sometimes have you broken up with somebody and then been like I'm doing the opposite? Yeah, it taste change because on the journey of life, right, you're developing constant, constantly, and the things that you like you know, you start to dislike depending on the experiences that you have, right, So you're learning more, right, You're like, man, I'm over these fucking strippers and Bartender's fuck this ship way, I'm

getting out this fucking locker room. Right. So, like you know, like you change as you like, Like you change depending on whatever it is that you that you that you used to and in depending on where you're going in life, right, And that's just a part of evolution. You're supposed to evolve at some point. Yeah, life is about learning, and you should take each experience and learn, take something from it and and use that to make better choices and

have a better experience in the future. And I feel like, of course you can change. I feel like I changed. I don't even feel like it was that I changed my taste, but I just feel like I took what I had and learned the yes and nose and move forward with Okay, I don't want this anymore, but this is what I want more of us, and I definitely

got what I X were. So Yeah, the main thing about relationships that don't work is learning from them, because everything you should learn from, even if it's something that it feels like a failure because it didn't work. Is really like something that teaches you what you don't want. I think that's just as important as what it really does. It really does, and then you learn how to maneuver

and navigate in your next situations. You know what you want to do, you know what you don't want to repeat, and some of the things that you went through in that Pride relationship, you can spot them old. Well, I'll see this coming now. I don't want this again. Now, man, are you were in a long term relationship that was public because you guys want no? No, I'm saying, but since then, yeah, yeah, So now since then you've been single? Okay, So are you like happy? Happy? Because I had to

fall in love with myself. I had to first learn how to how to do that before I could possibly be out here actually trying to be in a relationship with somebody else and trying to make them happy. See. I think we'd be getting in relationships for the wrong reasons, right, We're thinking that somebody's gonna make us happy. We're looking for happiness. But the happiness got to come from within. So once I started to really like because I was

at a real low point, I was. I was going through some ship, like I was like on Molly and drinking and just going crazy, like in a dark place in my life, and for no reason but the highs and lows of being in the industry and the ups and downs expectation and trying to compete and not being able to being able to and not being able to like those ups and down hounds, you know, I felt myself succumbing to certain things, and then I had to hit a rock bottom. I had to get real low.

And I remember you called me. Remember that call, and I appreciated that call because that day you called me, I was sitting in my my hotel room in Miami, fucking some some some bit I had in the room. Just walked out of my room with a rolex like I was just on rock bottom, right, stole stole a watch this lady's on Instagram going crazy on me on on social media. Right, So I'm just at a bad place, right, I'm this middle of the afternoon, all this ship is happening,

and I'm saying to myself, what am I doing? Right? You didn't get this far in your life for to just throw away everything. Right, You're still in the race. You're still in the car. You understand it might be it might not be going as fast as everybody else's. But nigga, you ain't. You ain't in jail, you ain't in the casket. You understand what I'm saying. You're free, you're healthy, You got opportunity and time get on your ship.

So I had to really find myself. I had to really dig deeper into into who I was, so I had to go through that though I had to go through all. I had to go through that, that suffering, you understand it. Sometimes the pain is necessary, you know what I mean. So I had to go through that for me to find who I was and really to climb back. And that's why I'm I feel like I'm

in the best place ever in my life ever. Sometimes you gotta break down the build up, So do you do you feel like after you find yourself and you feel like the love coming from within you, you will double back to someone you felt like gave you love but you didn't return it to them. And I'm just saying, like someone you was in a long relationship with. I don't understand that question. You don't understand this personal. It's not a personal course I'm talking about myself in a relationship.

What I'm saying, what's the question? The question is all right, I'll ask it again. Like after you feel like you've come to that place where you you find loving yourself and you feel like you can receive love back because you love yourself, when you go back to someone who you feel like you hurt m hm, oh, got it. I mean usually a lot of times, I mean most times, some things could have ran its course, and sometimes going back it's not the answer. And sometimes you're not the

same person. They're not the same person, and sometimes you'll just have to agree that you know, to to evolve, you know, separately. I don't know if going back is the answer. I mean it may work for some some people. You know, Um you turns for me never really been good. Turns work. I have to agree, and you know, you know what what's hard for you is that I think people view you in a certain ways, Like what I'm saying, it's like a strong person. It is hard to admit

like your own vulnerabilities. And that's why I be honest, because I know so many people go through so many different things. You know what I mean, you don't have to be a wrapper or celebrity or media person, says, we all share the same experiences, you know. I mean, we're all dealing with hurt and pain and suffering and loss or whatever. So I think when you when you find and you start to get happy within yourself, then the only object, the only thing you should be doing

is moving forward. And I like you do on your show is therapeutic for you to It is because I get to talk about all my ship. I could be honest, you understand that, And like I said, I don't have

to be the hero. You don't like the thing about music, It's like, especially coming from a rapper standpoint, we always it's so much or it's so like, you know what I mean, it doesn't really express vona ability, you know, in a way where people relate a lot of times, you know, but when you do, people were like, damn you really you know, Like my biggest song is all above, so they always you know, that was something I was talking speaking real So the podcast gives me the opportunity

to do that. Like we laugh and we joke and we talk real ship and you make money. Ain't that amazing? So much? Looking at him smiling, you got dad you've got the lobby boys. I noticed too that you like to team up with people a lot. I think New York needs that. Yeah, I think that this is a city that it was always about who is the one king? You know what I mean? It was always about who is that one nigga. I think that that has been embedded in our minds and our brains. It's always right.

And I think that that had a lot of you know, bad ramifications for the city. I'm just talking about for the for the morality of the city, right. I figured out that. And once me and Jim started coming together and doing a lot of boys album, you know, in Fab and in Davis, and we all started to come together and work out and share your own experiences with each other as black men in the business, it starts to send a message out that says, look, we all kings.

We all can have our own individual success, but there ain't nothing wrong with us going at these niggas together too, right, stronger together, all talk about like women problems, We talk about all Yeah, some people don't have that, but that's what makes it so good. And we're actually doing the pilot with a revolt. I was gonna say this sounds

like a TV. Yeah, like in today's climate, especially in New York with the drill rap and everybody with the gangs against each other and everybody coming at each other and people getting hurt, and it's in the third I feel like y'all being the o G. It's set the tone to change the narrative and to get things back to all of this craziness dying down because it's all for nothing or getting over ship. They don't even make

no sense. So I applaud you all for that for rest. Indeed, I think that it shows like we were talking about the thing. It was me and Fab the other day. It was like people really respect how we're moving right, because it shows like leadership and it shows us really like coming together and it's not taking nothing away from us individually, like you know, you know, me standing next to you or you're standing next to me is not taking away. So it's like it shows the city and

it shows the rest of the world. It's okay. We can't okay that we come together on some mutang ship. We can support each other. Like I told all, that's look, you're having a video. I ain't gonna be on a song.

But I'm pulling up. I'm supporting it because it looks better and it is out here about yourself as much as we all want to be, and we are all individuals, but sometimes it's hard like and it's good to have people that understand the navigation of the system and have been through similar things because everybody has up there, and I'm sure individually you all can appreciate the support from

it from another. Right, we all fall this, right, we've all been in the business, right, and it's a rocky road, you know what I mean, And you know, but we we together though, we get to change some of the narrative, narrative and it looks exciting for the fans. Right. So we just dropped another another song, another video last week, fit Lit because that's the name of our club. Yeah, so yeah, we shot that in the gym. We're working out.

We really, we really go and work out. This is not a game like it was the most fit on some real ship. You got. You gotta remember that gym always been working out, right, So he's always been working out and right because he is he's like a trainer, right, he's a maniac. What we're doing today, capital legs on back chest, just yes and what we're doing the mom

he's a madman. Um Dave's is super fit. He's always maintained because me and Daviess used to work out together before um So's, He's maintained a steady regime of working out and he gets busy. But the person that that surprises everybody that that actually is really consistent, it's Fab. Fab is super consistent. And no matter what city, because we got a group chat that week were in and we gotta you know, no matter what city we in, we gotta send a video make sure everybody working out

the matter. Fab is in l A, in Vegas. He will find a gym, don't matter. You think he dressed the best in the gym too. Definitely, definitely definitely come he's come. He's gonna come getting busy, but he's gonna come coordinated for the busy. Definitely. Now. I think that's amazing though, and I left to see it, man, and you know, you know, I look at you like there was periods of time in your life and you're like, I really want a girl. Man, So you don't even

feel like that right now. I mean, it has to be the right situation, you think working out has given you more stamina in the bedroom, was there every time when you felt like I think it's the person though, because you could be out like like it's the person that drives you more crazy, like like damn, I just want to just be on all day long. Like sometimes it's the person that just drives you to that point

where you just want to be on them all the time. Um. Then there's people that's just like, I'm gonna do it and I ain't. I ain't doing another round, so you can forget about it. Damn. We don't know if it's the one round and it was so amazing you were just exhausted, or if it's just yeah, which one is it could be? It could be one or the other. I'd go one round and I turn around and go damn, mm hmmm, I want some more. This is weird. And just know I'm just saying turning around about right, I

would use these terms of really turned around. I would. I would. I would usually tell them about writing, and I would say I want some more. What would you say, Stephanie if that was you? Why would it be me? Because you to his right right turn out a scene. I got a whole slave role yeah, I just did a slave bro. I had nothing to do with the slave bro money said about slaves. Oh my god, no, no, no, okay, So on adverte, do you normally do like two or three times or is it usually once? And did it

change as you got older? N you know, listen, it was this girl that I was like going like four and five times like this was recently, Like I was going crazy. This is because she just turned me on and she just drove me crazy every time she get up to walk to the bathroom and be like, damn, I want to fuck her. Like it was just she just had that sex appeal. And then sometimes I'm with somebody else I noticed that I would just be like, all right, I'm one and done. I'm cool, tired, I'm

going to sleep, you know what I mean. I put on ESPN, you know, put on a movie, you know, but for average, I say about two rounds at least if you pushing my lust to that level, like there's less equal can of equal love to you? Like can Do you think that the people that you've been most attracted to are the people that you have in love with or do you feel like those two things cannot be related? To each other, like I could lust for

you but not have feelings for you. Mm hmmm. I think lust because if you're spending so much time with one person, I think you can start developing true feelings for them. And if you got a high level of lust for them, that makes it even better. But what's better than than being desired by your partner? But have you ever listed for somebody that you didn't really care

about like that? Yes, but because it was just something that's that was just so sexual about them or so sexy about them, and I just it was just like more animalistic than real passion, right, and it wasn't more about me actually wanting to get to know them in a in a more personal level. Can that last? I don't think so, because women are not right. It's gotta it got a date on it, because after while women is not that you just ain't gonna keep fucking on me,

what's up? What we're doing? Like you're coming over here? Everyone ever? Do you understand? You're going crazy? And then y'all don't hear from you for a week and then it's the same ship. So you know, I think that that that got a time limit on it. I think women like is that it's consistency. So if you if you consistently having sex, but then at the same time you're spending time and we're doing things, we're stepping out, we're going places, we're doing things other than the bedroom,

then it's going on. A woman you know, ain't got no issue with that. Do you think a woman could We were talking about guys not doing oral sex properly? Can a woman suck a dick wrong? Like that happened to you? Yes? Yes? What is he like? Not not that we need any advice, but like nineties head, like I don't like it's like, hey, without spit. It was like what I was doing in the nineties. Okay, they did that in the nineties. They didn't have spitting the nineties.

That's what I'm trying to take. They didn't they didn't spend the night, spent the nighties. That's what I'm saying. Those kids, they spitting it like a dry blow. It was that straight up and down. Yeah, you know, I need some still cares like moviehead, not more in him black, movie head like TV. I think you were saying if you're in a movie theater, no no, no no, But just like the head that you see on TV. That's just like for you, Like it's like I don't really

want to do it. It's not slopping out. It's like I don't really want to do it, but I'm gonna do it. I'm just gonna give you a you know, just just go through the motions. But you say something, yeah, that sounds like, yeah, let's get past this. Yeah, let's move on to women you think are good at it, like that you've been with. The funny thing is that a lot of women think they're great at it and

then a lot of times that they're not. Ship. Yeah, let me tell you something I had a conversation with that had a conversation with a guy friends of mine. I had a conversation because Kevin Samuels had the clip when he was talking to the girl and she was like that she had good sex and he's like, well, how you know and she's like, well, I haven't had any complaints. And he's like, just because you finish a plate,

thought mean, you enjoyed the food. You know you're gonna follow through because you're hungry, but you know not because it was that good. Um. So I was having a conversation with one of my guy friends, and I was like, you know, ask the same question, like how many girls that really do stand up to having this good sexual behavior that they claim to have? And his answer was surprising, He's had not that many don't think that they don't.

He said more women are not as good women can actually back up that, oh I got fire head or pussy bomb. He said, it's a small percentage. Right, every woman that I know like swears a pussy is the greatest pussy on, Like, oh this is good pussy. I'll be like, how you know you got good pussy? Like mistakes, you got good pussy? Like, so what makes it good pussy? That off top? Some some women are more wetter than

others for some reason, like some women everybody's different. Really like it's like like gush like ver like like wow, I was like water pumping this bit, like the fun is going on? Right, that's really good. And then it's I guess it's the move the way she moves, like the way she worked that pussy is makes it better. Like you know that noises and talking, well that's good because then I was messing with an Asian woman that she looks so sweet And then did you get into

the bed. She talked crazy. She goes crazy like come on, give me that dick, give me that fucking dick on what But she just looks like an angel. You are another she up in this room. You would never think can anyone ever overdo it? Sometimes because you know how sometimes people talk like day in the porn. Yeah, one day I tell her. I told a girl, I said, you tell everybody to shut the funk up. Shut the funk up, like daddy just taking so good the best. Shut up like you're about to make my dick just

go solid. Just shut up like just sounds like sounds you don't sound realistic to me, like script and you're right, you sound like this is what sees your line? Can you understand what's what's the most expensive thing I saw that I saw Kanye but his new girlfriend? What is it? Two thousand dollar berking? Have you brought a Berken yet? No? Club? Watch? Um car, there's a big gifts. I'll help out if I funk with you? Funk with you? Do you ever

have buyer's remorse? Never? I'll never try to take nothing back from nobody. But have you ever been like I shouldn't have did that? No? Because at that moment, everything was done in that moment and when you was meant to have that. Let me get my watch back, or let me get those bags back, or like, what's the best person you ever got? I don't know. Women like by gifts, like maybe like sneakers and that's so you buying cars and roll lex and you get a pair

of sneakers. Oh a woman brought me a bracelet before. Okay, I like twenty of them are right now. Let one of those? Is it one of those? I like that your feet is out, only one. I like that you can take it off more comfortable. No, it's okay. Is that sometimes when my foot is like in the sneaker for too long, I get like a nerve that pinches from wearing heels for so many years that a break? Is that what you? Chelsea? I'm kind of hungry. I gotta drive you to the airport though my fight is seven.

But me now, congratulations on anything you got lobby boys, you got kissing talk, you've got this pilot. Butte, what else do we know about a little bit everything? I'm I'm on a lip service with y'all. I know, But what you always have when I tell you hust so hard is since you came out with that, its never stopped stop hustling. That's the whole thing. We gotta keep going. We gotta figure it out. And I like now better

than ever. I like the times that we in now bet than ever because of the social media and everything, Like, you can have different components. I can have the podcast and still go on the studio with Jim and make a whole album and go get a deal for it and put that out and still go overhead and do in you I need help with this book, right, I could still do all these things and have these different components as a brand, as a hustler. We don't have

to stay in one in one place. You know. I think years ago when you was a rapper, you was just a rapper, you know what I mean, and you didn't do as many different things. I mean, the smart ones did many things, so you know, and you've always

been into executive producing and creating your own content. That's definitely from the beginning, you know, Yeah, definitely ownership and get coming in the game shooting shoot it ourselves, Like yeah, I feel like you have some ideas that got taken, Like, yeah, I had this TV idea about me and Kimo Surreal about the hip hop Police. Oh and that's happening, right, I think that's happening. But that wasn't yours. That's somebody else's.

But I did, you know, and it's actually happening. I think Derek Parker, who was original hip Hop Cop, actually was years ago taking him to meet and so I probably was too early on it, right, So I was taking him to meeting and it was like, what are you talking about? Man? I'm like, listen, every Cops show it's based off of a real unit, right, all of these units are real. There's one unit that is actually happened in New York City that's real that we need

to show about. And I'm talking about the hip hop cop thing, like the police that police the music business, the entertainment world like that. And I don't even know that. Yeah, I haven't met some of them before. I'd be coming up the hip hop cop. Of course. It's interesting that you would have a relationship where you could even really speak like that to them, like how does that happen? Well, see, he was right right, and he put the book out to put the book out, So because he had put

that book out. I had went in and got some you know, advice and information from him because when I started writing and then I was taking him around, I was trying to shop it because I felt like this idea was was next level. But it's actually happened, and you know, and it's and it's cool because it's it doesn't make me feel no kind of way that it's not my idea, but it makes me feel like I was on the right track. So we just gotta keep going. That's interesting. I feel like you had a lot of

ideas that I see happening now, what I mean. I've seen some other stuff that we've had discussions about, Like I know you had one um about plastic surgery. Oh yeah, I did the whole documentary on the Bartenders in New York. Actually shot that, Yeah, I actually shot that. I never found that the right distribution. I couldn't. I could have always put it out. I can still put it out, but I wanted the right distribution on it, you know

what I mean. I didn't want to spend you know, the money and the time and effort into doing it and not having the right home. I mean, it's still live, you know, Um, you know, every day we still, you know, still trying to actively find the right home for it. You know, I didn't want to just you gotta put that out, Man's I know because I really, I really,

I really put some heart and soul into that. I think you should have screening for it because at the time it was But you know what I really need to do though, what I need to do that with that as I need to go back in and update the things that happened since COVID, after COVID and how it affected the clubs and what is it like today, because you know it's been a change's going to change.

It's been a change. So yeah, it was you just call a dollar at the time, all right, may now, But as I always always working and we always appreciate you. You know you are my still my BRF. I had to motiate earlier, but we back the whill. We're back everybody that everybody person that knows me. I'm like, I'm going to see minute. Yeah, BRF, your best friends and

you can see why. Man, do you feel like every girl you've ever been with you could double back if you wanted to know some of them, some of them, some of them you don't want to know. Some of them don't want me. Really. Have you ever had your heart broke? I want broke? Stepped on? Maybe? Yeah? Play with yeah? I guess um. I don't think that every girl wants to double back, you know, like, ain't you you have a cried over a girl? It's okay? Yeah, yes, yes,

yes fucking right. I'm not gonna make you cry. I don't cry make you cry? All right? Well that note, we gotta go. Lip service. Thank you so much, man. No, definitely a friend to all of us. We love you, We love your yo.