Episode 329: Do the Details Matter? (Feat. Domani)

He came in here with the juice from the juice bar. That man. Now, I gotta be nice, gotta be nice. But we have you here today because you are an artist and people are impressed by your music, and I know sometimes that's a lot like just even getting when you first got started as an artist. Just being like this famous person from TV. People are already going to have their reservations and kind of want to be like, oh, he's just doing this, but actually it's pretty good. Thank you.

I really appreciate that. Man. I've been working on this, um this this last project for a while, so you know that means a lot. Scott Scott Dive just about commitment. I make all my music and I don't like to come up with no concept and like that. I just make all the music. And I was listening to it and then um, I just noticed I was talking about falling and just falling in love and just just commitment in general. So I just went with Scott Diving just

taking a leap of faith. You ready to have kids and get married. I would love to have kids, Yeah, get married. Marriage is scary when you don't know abody. Having kids are scary. Having kids could be scared. Yeah, but marriage that's a that's a that's a business. Kids are too, Yes, that's a lot, but that's a whole of the person that's never going anywhere. That kid, Yeah, you can't get really kid. You gives your kids, But marriage, man,

you you mess around, they take half. You know. Now you can do a prenup and I'm sure you will. But that's weird because then that's that's weird energy because then your partner gonna be saying, why you just said it's a business. Yeah, but you know, mixing business with you know, love is kind of weird. I think it's kind of ideal me too. I feel like, um, if you really love somebody a pretty I'm sure agreement. When you're a successful person, I feel like it's just a

normal thing, you know what I mean. So like I'm gonna be successful, You're going to be successful. Let's just sign some papers so that way. If things don't work out ways, because move on. We're plan to be together forever. So this is just paperwork, it doesn't matter. But you gotta still sign here. Cheater, Now, I wouldn't call myself a cheater. I knew y'all was gonna answer me this. I don't want to answer that question. I don't answer

that question, not because of me that just answered it. Wow. I mean, listen, things happen right, and as a man, you know, it's kind of in you because you're this situation. It's not in him that do not give him a pass. I'm not trying to give not in you to be a cheater. But you still want to release more in your hands in music? Is my release? Um released so much? You know? But yeah, that's a that's a great question. I knew you guys are gonna ask me that. Well,

so you are a cheat. You have cheated, not cheater, but you have cheated. Yes, I've cheated. I cheated. Just cheating is good, like in school, you know you cheat on its not good. Cheating in school is the way I feel like successful people are cheatings, not like relationship. I'm talking about like this to me, I'm talking about in school. So in school, I was cheating on tests and stuff like that, and I feel like to be successful or to get ahead, it's about cheating. Like you

your money. We're talking about how you cheated on your talking about Okay, do not talk about so you know it's it's a way of getting you're talking about. I was trying to avoid it. There's different levels of like here's what I think because somebody was asking me the other day. Right, if you cheat in a relationship, can

you move past it? You can if a guy can take accountability for himself right and understand like what the problem with it is and make you feel like he won't like genuinely say you won't do it again, and you feel like he means it. Now, I'm not saying that people don't mess up, but it won't happen. But you have to take accountability and understand that you know, so tell us about your cheating experience. You know, I'm young man, young I was even younger at the time.

So I've been feeling good lately. I've been doing good lately. How'd you get caught? I don't lie. I don't I don't not a good liar. My face turns read. So you were honest? Yeah, you know, I never Wow, you guys really got me talking. I never got caught like fully, you know, just she asked this question. And then you know, women can tell that's why because she probably asked you because she knew already. Normally that's the case when when it comes to that, women are like cops, like we

are answer to the question we're asking you. That's why we're asking. It's like it's like you suspect, but I gave you the confirmation. M m yeah. Sometimes when somebody asked you a question out of nowhere to you like, I'm already caught, and then you have a choice. Yeah, you got a choice. You either lot or you tell

the truth the questions. Three choices. You're an avoid here good at you are being confrontational in a relationship and like having those discussions because they always say, guys hate when women are like, okay, we need to talk. Yeah,

I think I like talking. I like talking because you know, in a situation, it might not seem like I like talking, But at the end of the day, any question that people ask me, or any time somebody telling me about myself, I'm listening to it like I might not might not look like I'm listening, but you know, like on the ride back home listening to it, but I'm learning myself. So I like talking, and then you get to learn who you're dealing with. So it could be uncomfortable at times,

but I think it's it's worth it. Right, you think you've been in love already? I feel I feel loved. I feel like I'm giving love. Yeah, I feel yeah love. All right, Well, let's talk about some of the music, because you did say on talk about it alright. I'm sorry, but like, how do you how can you tell? Like what love? How can you tell? I want to hear

Angela's answers to this. I think when you think about somebody all the time, and it makes you smile when they're not around you, even when they're not there, you're thinking of thoughtful things that you could do for that person. If that's the first person you call every time something happens, if it's good or bad, and you want to share it with them, and any free time you have, you're like planning your head for the future. You're like, Okay, next year, we're gonna do this. I think things like

that are good indications love. What do you think? I feel like it's undeniable feeling that you get in a piteous stomach. Yeah, I feel like I'm in love when I want to. Like you said, you just can't stop thinking about them and it makes you happy. When you're mad, you still love them because you know, and every little thing about them that could be annoying from somebody else, you still like. Yeah, I feel like, Okay, I feel like I don't know, man, don't people got different definition

of love? Like I want to take care of someone like me wanted to take care of someone. Yeah, I think that. I think that's me showing that I love someone. Wanted to take care of someone, wanted to teach somebody, want to show someone things that they've never seen before.

I think that's my definition of love. Love language of language. Yeah. Yeah, and you've seen a lot already, so yeah, I might have seen too much, man, I feel that Yeah, Yeah, because that makes it kind of difficult too, and you didn't see too much, because how much can a girl teach you a lot? I mean I know about me, I know about me, and I know about us. I mean I know about what I'm saying. A woman is a different world like y'all, a whole another world to learn,

That's what I'm saying. So so you get to learn about that woman. Yeah, I mean y'all similar to some degree, with similarities. Y'all digging man? Man, you know like how y'all just how women just know each other and y'all understand each other. That's because y'all have similarities. I might not know that those, but y'all know that y'all are similar. Yeah. But yeah, I feel like a woman could teach me, teach me how to love, teach me how to comfort,

teach me how to be patient, stuff like that. I feel like, just provide that good that balance in life. Are you good at saying I love you now? I'm not good at that, man. I'm not good at showing emotions. I'm not. I'm good at showing emotions in my music, but like in real life, I'm still working on that. Why do you think that is. I don't know, man, Maybe maybe I didn't grow up seeing it or something like that, but I don't know. It's just been difficult.

Just you know, my parents aren't like that either. They're not very like. They never like I love you growing up or like and stuff like that. It was like cool, but it wasn't they hate each other, but they weren't very affectionate, right right. I think it was maybe something that but I don't know, man, it's just weird um even family. You know, I say I love you with

like it's just like you gotta think about it. I feel like a lot of times you when other people tell me, you know, they love me, I feel like they don't even think about it. It's just something that they just say, right, And so maybe you overthink things. Yeah I do. I do. I think a lot of stuff. And also I feel like I love you. It's kind of like when someone says it's you, the automatic response is you just supposed stay back? Yeah, man, I really

say that first, but I'm working on it. I am that. Yeah. I didn't work on that though. Does it make you feel good like your girls like I love you Demani? Yeah, definitely. I'm trying to make her feel good too. Yeah, that's

what I'm saying. That's I'm working on it. I'm doing that's that's one thing that you're learning from the right woman, right from the right one, from the right woman that I wanted to teach you how much I think, no matter what, no matter what, Asian man is, I think that there's so much that he can learn from a woman ad vice versa. I think we as women can learn a lot from man. I just feel like many do need to feel needed. Yeah, I feel like everybody

liked to feel needed. You know, I think men needed more and I think they need it more because they don't feel like they should because men are supposed to be the protector and the provider, so they don't want to feel you know what I'm saying, Like they feel like they shouldn't feel that way. But that's what makes

them because we're already like very nurturing by nature. I think as women, as women, you don't think like the same way a woman needs attention, Like that's the same as a man needing to feel wanted once didn't need it is two different things you need, Yeah, because I know, like for myself, I don't need anybody. You'll need no man's attention. I don't know what I'm saying. I don't need like, I don't need somebody to like take care

of things. I kind of like handle things myself. But when you can allow a man or you can ask for help and he feels like, oh, she needs me for something, and it kind of makes them feel good. That's what y'all be doing. Can you openess like that? And then you'd be feeling off strong, like yeah, I got you baby, Okay, can you pick up your own laundry?

Thank you. I think it's important for a woman to make a man feel needed, because it's insimidating for a man when he's with a girl that doesn't need him. But you don't never want to feel like, okay, you feel needed, but not like I can't survive that, right, Because have you ever had a woman that felt like you felt like she was so dependent on you? Yeah? You had it like a little overbearing. Yeah, and that's yeah, man, I'm young man, I'm figuring it out. But yeah, I've

seen that. I'm seen. But people just might be in that stage of life right just then, you know, and I gotta ask you this. We're trying to loosen you up here, so let's see if you can answer this question. So have you ever had a scare thinking you were about to be a father? Yeah? Yeah, I overthink. I overthink all the time, all the time, all the time, all the time. Yeah scared. I mean, you know, of course, um twice all the time. Not all the time, you know,

just a couple of times, a couple of times. You know you were you excited or were you like? How did you feel? Yeah? Did you feel nervous? I felt like whatever Finna happened, it's gonna get real. So you felt ready for us to come. If that was the case, I felt like, yeah, it's real. You know, change and growth is near. So that's all. Kids. I feel like I don't have any kids. Just I'm telling about what I feel and what I think. But I feel like, you know, kids, it is just if you're doing what

you what you what you're supposed to do. Kids are just um growth. You know, you can't you can't stay. You're saying how you are before you had kids and after you had kids. I feel like kids is just an opportunity to grow and learn to make it be a man. Real quick. I don't know, man, I know I want more than one, that's but not a lot, not as not as many siblings as I have a house. But that's fine. I always wish I had a whole bunch of brothers, but I guess I only have one

older brother. So it's always you want what you don't have. Yeah, I mean, it's a lot. Though it's not a lot, but it's just a lot of opinions. Man, I'm overthinking right now. So I love all my sibblers. Man, we learned from that. You think that sometimes you'd be a little nervous, like you don't want to say the wrong thing because people over analyze what you say. Yeah, man, the world is I feel like I live for others, you know. I feel like I rarely live for myself.

That's why when I do live for myself, you know, I kind of go a little overboard. And maybe that was the cheating, you know, but something like stuff I just helped me figure myself out. I can't even picture you cheating too. That's what's got it, don't Yeah, the money you give us a good guy, I'm a good guy. You get be the ones though good you give, you give good God, you give whole stuff Like I really need to know how I need to switch it up though as soon as I mess up, it's gonna be

over with. So I need to go ahead and just to lit negative in there. But there's not a wrong with being a good guy. Yeah, I just told you. It's just you know, as soon as you make a mistake and so words you're human, they tackle you. But see that that also goes with this day and age of the Internet and social media and people, um, celebrities and people being in popularity being so accessible and and then the population being so able to come at you in the comments and then the d M s and

on Twitter and what forth. Um, you know, that creates some chaos. You know. Um, we a little bit, a lot of bit older than you and didn't grow up in that world where you know, people were so accessible, Like we weren't allowed to d M or comment or speak to people that we looked up to in entertainment, you know. So it's it's a difference and can't get away with ship and y'all. It sucks for y'all. It's us for y'all having to deal with that. I feel

like people don't understand that. Man, I understand. I feel like I understood this for a while. But you know, the more you have, I feel like, the less you could do. So the more exposed not exposures, the more are famed, the more money, the more eyes you got on you unless you yeah, you put your and I hate a box man, Yeah, but just the stuff that I love to do. Just, I mean, just I'm gonna

figure out how to get out of this box. But as a person, you want to be free to express yourself with I deal with people's opinions and how they feel and what they think you should be doing and saying and writing in your music and so forth right exactly, It's like a catch twin two. It's like what I love to do, like be extra creative, and if I'm too good at it, I'm gonna put myself in the box. So if I'm too good at it and i'd be

too successful, I'm in a box. So it's crazy, but you know things are working out, Like you got this song Falling, Yeah, yeah, Falling Anthony Hamilton's Rap City. That's an amazing combination. By the way, how did that? How did that happen? Sound like a lot of instance, burning and that's the candles litting light, stage smudging and everything. You know. But I know it was already knew. I knew rap City. I tooled with rap City. It was me big crate, rap City Boom. We grew a relationship.

She's super dope, and I just knew she would. I knew she would just provide. I mean, this track would exactly what it needed. And I just gave her a little bit of I gave her a little direction, like what the concept of the project was, because I wanted this to end it, and she just did it. She just did it perfectly. I don't know if she did it,

gave it exactly what he needed. And then Anthony, he was I've seen him coming on some of my something on my post, like fire emotions, and then I had reached out to him and he invited me to a show. I've seen the show. Show was dope. That man was on stage getting it. And then um, I sent her some music and one of those he got on everything and one of them was falling. So I don't know, it just it just came together like that. Man. I know you've seen him in the comments, you saying, right,

that's not right there. Wait a minute, now, that but that was that was reason the whole album came together like that for real, just natural organic. That's a good feeling that I remember a couple of years ago when J Cole and get you up to give you props and everything. Yeah, I mean that's J Cole, It's cold J man. Yeah. I keep telling to people that's a confirmation.

Like a lot of times, you know, you're just doing what you like to do, and you mean, you don't really know if you're headed in the right direction until you get those confirmations, like you get those like checkpoints like okay, boom, I'm heading in the right direction. I'm heading in the right direction. Sometimes those uh spread apart like years until you get a confirmation on and you just never know. And that's just that's the stressful part. But that right there was like one of the biggest,

not biggest, one of the big confirmations. I mean, that's a big one. Yeah, But I'm saying, like my my parents, you know what I mean, my dad, Yeah, no, I get that too, But I'm saying outside of that, outside of that, that's definitely one of the biggest information your headed in the right direction. But yeah, man, he I was just grateful that he told he didn't have to tell me any of it and he could just kept it to himself, but he told me that and he

gave me that confirmation, that motivation that I needed. And um, here we are with the next one, Scott Dive. Do you think that people look at your life from the outside and think it's like amazing from you know, having watched you grow up and be like, he's so fortunately, he's so lucky. But they don't know the struggles that you go through because sometimes people don't have sympathy for

that either. Right. I ain't gonna sit here and say I'm going through too much struggle, man, I just it's just when you get a lot of good, you also have a lot of bad. But that don't mean that this good is not still good. So I'm not gonna say that I'm just struggling. You know, everything is, but I'm saying in your head a lot though, you know, everything is what I'm putting on myself, Like this is stuff that I wanted to do. I put this pressure on me and yeah, man, but it's, um, it's pros

and cons with everything in life. It's just too much exposure too soon, could go bad. It could go left and not enough. I was fortunate, man, I don't I don't even look at the negative. It's some negative stuff that happened, but it's not negative at all compared to what it could have been. Because I remember you was like, not about to do the show. He was like, I'm stepping away, focus on my music. Yeah, you've seen a kid trying to figure it out. I had. It was

just time. I felt like I just felt something. It's just it's just time to focus on myself. And I just wanted to me personally see myself differently, and then the world to see me who I felt like I was instead of you know what I mean, being on the show and then at the bottom and say t I and tiny son. Yeah you know. So, yeah, it was time, all right, So let's talk about Hendy and crystals. Yes a little bit. So first of all, you're not old enough to drink heney, not old enough to drink heny,

but she is. She's old enough to drink heney. Okay, so yeah, yeah, girl is older than you. You're putting it together all right now, and you're both smoke. I don't smoke you don't smoke, Okay, smoke you never tried it? Yeah, you gotta try, you know, not right try? But no, I don't. It wasn't for me. I don't like I don't like rolling up. I don't like smelling like weed. Already got lost, Everybody already think I smoked. I don't like smell like weed. I don't like buying weed from

people's suspicions. You're coming along. It's not a problem with going to a dark all in exchange, I ain't trying to. Got no backwoods from the gas station, none of that. I ain't even trying to. Just yeah, I have nothing against weed at all. A lot of my people smoke weed, and it's not a problem. But I just it's not for me. So, but you care about signs, Yeah, I

feel like it's some truth to that. Pisces. She's a libra is a my microphone got signed or I got excited or excited she looked at Angela is the one. She's the douvil all of us. Yeah, she's definitely the devil. Look I fixed it. So, how is the pandemic for you? With your music? I wanted to just sit in the studio and make a lot of music, but that didn't even happen. Man, I was just living life, relaxing, um and then it just it just came when it came.

And like I said, this, this project has been like a most organic, most natural I didn't force anything at all. It feels good, yeah, you know. And then I just trusted myself to just deliver. And I feel like you know, I mean, instead of just fortunate and saying I gotta make a song because I'm in the studio. What's your routine in the studio, Like when you get ready, do you write everything? Do you freestyle? How do you work

however it comes on the way to the studio. I could hear it beat and write song a little like right ideas, and then finish it up there and call it a freestyle because I'm not writing or just right Colors or I just right like just I mean, however, if it's like a story in my head or an idea in my head, I just write down stuff that that I can I can remember when I get back to the studio, Like Colors sounds like making an outline for a book. Yeah, just giving a little bit more detail.

When did you know you wanted to be a rapper. I don't want to be no rapper man. All right. Yeah, I knew I wanted to be an artist when I when I seen what music to do for me and what it could do for others. That's when I just found stuff to talk about. I found stuff that was real in my life, just to talk about. And then people tell me, you know, what it did for them and how it helped them. And at first I thought they were just talking, but then another person, another person

telling me the same thing. I'm like, Wow, that's when I fell in love with it, because it was it was helping me, but then at the same time it was helping others. Yeah, that's what I knew I want to be an artist. Alright, So now let's talk. Let's go back to what we were talking about earlier. I feel like we got a little fool cheating, but okay, So now, because you you do say that you want to have a woman who clearly knows how to take care of you, right, cook, do those things? Be a

good mom, right, that's important to you. A wife. A wife is important, So marriage is important to your marriage? Marriage is important? Oh my god, sorry, I mean I believe, I believe in building with one person. I don't believe that. Now I feel like I get that that's what marriage is. Why why why is marriage? You know you have to be to be me? I was just cause I'm overthinking everything.

Everybody's not that type of person. But I'm just like, if we just together in ten years passed and then twenty years passed, were together, We've been having fun, we love each other, why you gotta say sign here? Look, I said the same thing because you know, in the breakfast club, I'm the only one that's not married, and me and Slemanne is married. I'm like, I kind of feel like I could be with somebody forever and not necessarily get married. But I think everybody feels differently about it.

But I haven't dug in it enough. I don't know. I don't really know. I'm speaking from an ignorant perspective. Yeah, you know, I haven't really I don't know about marriage.

People say that they were together for all this time and then marriage ruined the relationship because then you feel like you have to live a certain way or by by certain rules, or live for the sake of marriage, instead of just being free with who you are and letting things florganically, right, man, I never cared about marriage until I moved forward in faith, and I have to get married to that way I can go to Havan. You can give you that. Married, you're gonna go to heaven. Yes,

and neither is my husband. Like, we have some honor each other, so we could go through the case. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, come on, I just try to be a good person. So I do want to get married. I want to get married, and I don't want to only get married one time because theorce and I think I was to ever get married, I would feel the same way that this is it. Yeah, one time, that's not something that necessarily had to do. But if I do go down

that role, then we together. Yeah. And if if I get the vorce and get read, I won't do with a guy. Yeah, I'm definitely gonna take my vow seriously. And you know what if he don't, what if he have a kid on you, you gotta walk out. And we got a lot of you know, you know what they say about marriage's a lot of work, so we would have to work on that. Something supposed I was born aside baby my my father. I've never heard of that before. Right. I mean, it happens all the time.

So I have a whole lot of siblings. Were the side baby crew, and we get content for your music. We are we are not my We are my father's children, but not by his wife. And we have two different mothers. So I was born in sixteen days later my sister was born. Neither one of these women was married to my father. To this day, he's still married to his wife.

They haven't been together and all these years. However, Um, that allows me to look at life and in marriage and this whole concept very differently because I am a part of it. I didn't ask to be a part of it, but this is just what I was born into. And I was actually, you know, you have a blended family with your siblings having you know, different moms and stuff. So y'all all grew up one big, happy family. I was raised the same way, not in the same household,

but I was raised the same way. You know, our mother's got along and we are all at Grandma's house together and yeah, everything was great and yeah, and it's like it happens right and you deal with it accordingly. But me personally, UM, I've had a guy, had a baby had a baby on me before I left him, and I didn't leave him because he had the baby. I left him because he actually happened twice, and both

times I left because he lied about it. It was the same person in two different relationships, with two different relationships years apart. I've had men that I was with have another woman pregnant, and then when I found out,

they lie, oh, it's not my baby. So exactly, and in the first, the first instant um, the guy was basically living in my house and panem my bills, taking care of me and my daughter, but was nowhere around his own kids it and I'm like, I can't be with you, like you know, that's that's sucked up because I was your your kids mom, like I would you know, Like I don't condone that. So we broke up. And then years later, the guy that I was doing we

were actually in an open relationship. So that made it even worse because i'll you lying, you can tell me the truth. And at the time I didn't want any more children. I have a kid, and I didn't want any more children, and he we spoke about that. He knew I didn't want any more children. So if you in fact, want more children, and you want to have a baby by somebody else by all means, do that,

but don't lie to me about it. And when I found out the woman was pregnant at the time, and his friends slipped up and said something, and that's how I figured it out. So when I confronted him about it, you know, he did, he really did slip up. And we were all out eating and drinking and stuff, and he slipped up and said something. But when I confronted him about it, he starts lying, and I'm like, that's no, no, no, no no, no, it was we were alone when I

confront of him about it. Um, it was actually a few days later because more at that fur of you, because I don't know if I could wait until later. Yeah, more things, more things happened, and then, you know, confront of him about it. The baby had a name and everything, and he's still trying to tell me that. He told me, no, the baby was still in the womb and they had already named the baby. You know what, the boy, you gave him a name. And when I asked you if you got a baby on the way, you tell me

you don't think it's yours. But you name that mean so yeah, he said he don't think it. He knew that was his baby. He named him was booking the nursery across the hall. Like, you got me fucked up if you think I'm gonna stick around in this situation. So I left. But you know, case by case scenario. If in fact I was married and my husband stepped out and had a baby, I would deal with it accordingly based on the situation. Right. If he was on, yeah,

I would have to. You think you could be in an open relationship over relationship that mean we're to get it. Don't do it that you can do your thing. Yeah out, y'all have an understanding. Y'all have an understanding that y'all you think one on one on me my girl? You know because like I said, I love I showed my little boy. You know, take care of you. I'll take care of you. And someone else is making me someone else? Yeah I'm not. I'm being tricked. You know what the

why are you not paying for it? She collect them both. Have you ever had like a public argument with your girl public like social media? No, you know how you like and y'all get she get mad and it's like y'all out in public arguing. I hate that. I don't think so Angela has to witness me and my ex having clancy of public arguments, and it's not a good situation. And I remember Stephanie used to be arguing on the phone.

On the phone, She'll be gone for two hours while eating you I'll be in front of the restaurant, remember those days, whispering yellow whispering. You ever try to ruin her night if you're on then argument. You know how guys would try to ruin your night and call you while you out having fun. Yeah, go home and up the whole night. Yeah, I mean that's that's childish. But yeah I did that. You know, I'm a child. I'm not resting to be grown. So at what age you

think you're an adult? I'm at that point. I'm just playing. I'm at that Yeah, you're an adult. I'm definitely still trying to get with the child as an excuse. Yeah, I'm still learning. Yeah, I asked for the student discounts when I be behind stuff you're mioking at. Yeah, that's every guy's excuse. This is the things they say. I'm a working progress. I'm fighting, still learning, you know, I'm fighting, y'all. What's y'alls? What's your response as that? Because them not lies?

I mean, you know, working progress. I'm human. I feel like people have to learn from their mistakes because if you keep on making the same mistakes breaking, it's not a mistake right at that point, it's a choice. Yeah, And I think that people do have to take accountability, but they also have to say if they see that they hurt you or if they've done something that and they can acknowledge that I sucked up, you can't keep

on doing that. That's how because guys will try to keep on doing it and be like, why, I'm a work in progress? How long are you're gonna be work in the progress? Now? When this right? When are we going to get through this? I'm under construction, state construction. Now. It doesn't matter to you if when you date somebody your family approves, Like, have they ever not liked a girl like your siblings? Have they ever been like I

don't like her? And I know like from my brother, he don't even like to introduce me to girl because you don't like none of them. I don't like none of them. Um, I ain't had too many girlfriends man, it's about my only girlfriend on the head, so I haven't experienced that, and everybody like everybody, yeah, yeah, everybody. Yeah, my mom be calling and she just called her. That was cool, So she did her hair a couple of times. That's a good feeling when they you know, stuff like that. Man.

But yeah, um, if my family didn't improve, I would just want to know why, Like what do y'all see? Man, I don't I trust my family. I trust my family should Yeah, So I would just want them to let me know what I mean, let me in or whatever y'all know, so I could figure out how I want to go about this. When I was younger, I hated this guy and my whole family hated him, and I shouldn't. Really you gotta pay attention to stuff like that because

he really wasn't good. But then sometimes when that happens and make you go really hard to just stay together because you don't you want to prove everybody wrong, and you like end up defending somebody that doesn't deserve to be defended because everybody against it. And then I stayed in some bullshit with one of my sisters. My older sister had a boyfriend that we all hated, and she stayed with him for years and he treated her bad and we all hated. He was very disrespectful to the family,

and we hated him. And she's no longer with him, and I can't be more happy for her that she's moved on a lot of times that more of the girls, Is that more of the females that stick in a that stay in a toxic relationship or do you feel like because they'd be thinking that ship is normal? Like sometimes I'm telling you, men can be toxic. I was with somebody who would just pick an argument just because he was in the mood to. But women can be also.

I will say there's some women I know, women that have made guys feel like ship like I don't even want to say to but he was telling me how she would just be this is his career money. You know you broke you did you that? I'm not like that. I'm still checking more lifter, I like, I like, I like no exactly anymore. I think I have my signs exactly.

That's what I'm saying. I think as I've gotten older, I'm more of an uplifter or I want to make my and I feel really supported and make him feel like he's the fly, is the best out of everything, like all his failures are okay because we're gonna do better next time. Sometimes you gotta be honest to the like no, I'm so not honest. I'm like, babe, it's okay. You don't have a job now, but you'll get a

job soon. Man, don't worry. You secure letting your girl hear your music like before it comes out or be in the studio. It's a good question, depends on what it is. Sometimes I don't like for her to hear some music, especially it's about her. Yeah, it's about her,

you know what I mean? You hear I did that before, not wanted her to hear some music, And I feel like that's a good thing because that means I was It's a good thing, but I should Definitely it shows that I'm not open, but it shows that I said what I felt and we might have been past it and you hearing this probably gonna like dig up it again. But it's probably something like that. Well. Yeah, I always try to be honest with myself and my music, So sometimes I don't want people to hear it, and rest

you don't want to because you overthink you got music. Yeah, music no one's heard before. And a lot of times, you know when I put that type of stuff out because you know, my people are like, you need to put this out, like people need to hear this, you know that's what. Yeah, Yeah, to help. And I mean because after I don't after I hadn't made the song, I didn't, I didn't help myself already everything else mush me putting it out it's helping. I did some songs

you made that you feel like you'll never put out. Yeah, not because it was Yeah, I'm overthinking everything. But yeah, there's definitely some songs I feel like I never put out because, like I said, I'm just an overthinker, and I just we might look at it a certain way, and it's really not that we might think it's it meant this much to us, and it was. I mean, I don't like showing too much too soon, all at once. So now I don't want to put it out right and then when it passes, you don't want to go

back exactly. But if it's something that you needed to do at the time, yeah, I said, just did it right then. But I didn't have a plan I'd like to have a plan and haven't make it makes sense. So yeah, that's when stuff just get stuck and I just end up just giving it away, saying yeah, you sing it or you you you know, stuff like that. Oh you go smoting. That goes right in what I'm saying, Like I I looked to write for I've been in rider camps and tried to write for some people. But

them write camps. Man, it'd be it'd be why it's like warring them writers, y'all if y'all sitting the writer's camp for from an artist's perspective, from a writer's perspective, the boys wanted and you know, I'm just the trying. Yeah, they trying to get percentage. Every word is a little percentage. They're trying to get What about this? What about that? I'm like, man, I'm just need that. This ain't for me right now. You know, I didn't get too much

for all of that to focus on. I can focus, can't. I can't even it can't be real. I mean, y'all moving too fast and switching up too many words too soon. I'm trying to feel it digested, and That's where I'm at right now. But um, the songs that I do give away and I do I do like shops music. Like we just said that I waited too long to put out and I don't want to put it out because I mean, I just don't feel that way no more. And yeah, so I just give to someone else. I'm

not just gonna let it sit. So, yeah, you know what I wanted to ask you, because I know you'd like to help people with your own experiences, how did you get past the cheating? Like if you have to give somebody advice, say they messed up, you gotta realize you did it first. Accountability, Yeah, because I was like I was trying to tell me, you know, I was trying to make myself believe little lies. I'm like, damn, we might have been on a break. I'm like, that

wasn't it. And you know, so you gotta you gotta know you did what you did first, and then you gotta know that you want to be with this person, and I feel like everything else will just fall in place. You know that you did this and know that you want to be with this person and it'll work out. And also be willing to answer any questions because I questions.

But we gotta we gotta, we gotta differentiate, like what y'all want to know and what y'all just asking just because y'all asking, it sho didn't matter though I think accountable. But you know what, It's also true sometimes maybe you don't want to have to tell every detail because that might be too much because we'll be asking but never it might be the point like did y'all with no condom?

You know, people ask all kinds of questions. I remember I had a girl tell me that she she's upp with my boyfriend and she was telling me all kind of details. She said, she left with your boyfriend. She was telling you details. Yeah, she was like, girl, you was at work. I came to the house. You had this. She was like, we was in the shower. I was like, I said, yeah, but he didn't know. Yeah, he didn't know. I suppose that. I mean I never suked to him again after that. Was about to say, so you went

because you're hearing those details. It's hard to go back. But it's two things that could happen. Either it's really hard to go back, or you feel competitive. I'm not feeling competitive like some people feel like I'm not gonna let her win, and so I'm gonna stay with him and I'm gonna torture him, but she can't have him, or you'd be like me and be like, after that happened,

I can't never funk with you again. Don't to let the little but listen after you you need your girl got to like punish you a little, like give me an example, like you gotta be on some type of time out. Yeah, dress up, dress up, go out. Yeah yeah. And I'm not saying you gotta cheat back, But what I'm saying is it can't be easy, because then why would not do it easy? You gotta gotta give him for what If she's like I want to know every detail? What do you say? No, say what do you mean?

Are you going on tour? Yes? I feel like this is the whole Interviewers are set up as you think that we want to set you up. Y'all don't want to. But I just from my perspective, I see it overthinking, get over thinking, but I don't know it. But I don't know it, like they're shaking his whole. Yeah, definitely going on tour man November December and being on tour, I apprecy sure we're gonna touch it almost all the most of the cities and you know United States. The smoke,

the smokes, yea to the smoke. It's gonna be dope. We're gonna be in your city. We're gonna be here too. I want you all to come to the show, so you're gonna be out there too. Yeah, I'll come to that. I'll come at home. Yeah, We're definitely gonna be on tour. That's my guy. Man, how did you get so tight? He was on that rap he was on the rap show. Um, he was on the rap he won. Yeah, he won, and Pops with my pops are telling me. He was introduced me like, this is the guy that won off

the show that time. I didn't even know. I don't at the show wasn't even air, you you know, I just met him. He gave you a spoiler, yeah, he said, telling nobody, but he won, okay, And then we was in the sounds like Inside of Trading right there with the jail for your Inside of Trading. He gave you a tip. Oh yeah, you know, I probably the only one that knew that. Whoa but losing the studio and I've seen he just walked First of all, he just walked in and just just cool dude in general. And

then um he started recording. That man was speaking Spanish, man play the keys, and that man just wrote a quick version. It was dope, and it was I said, yeah, man, you got yeah, we gotta do something, you know. I had to did a little verse two. Man. I was just quick little. I wasn't happy about it, but that's this song is out there somewhere. But that's how we met. Just I just I met him like that. And then from then we was just we had each other information.

We just each other songs and different ideas and just talking about music and we were just running to each other. Then boom, I just sent him this song and he knocked it out. He was like, I don't know, man, I ain't at that time. I wouldn't. I didn't put out music or no, that didn't put out music. It's like, did nobody really respect me to doing music? And I still like people still don't. But he would like the first one to really knock that verse out. And I

was like, man, it's my guy. Man, and he knocked it out and he killed it and yeah, now we're going on tour. You feel like people still don't really respect it. Na na, oh, I had to tell you think that, right, Yeah, No, I feel like I get Nah, No, I don't, but you think, so what do you think you have to do in that case? Just keep on? I'm yeah, I'm gonna keep working the music and speak

for itself where it's already spoken for it. I mean, like, I'm glad you came here to do this because that's important. I'm glad y'all let me up here. Man, I was late in everything. I'm sorry. Appreciate you guys. You all look nice. But that's what I think, right. You gotta do your press and then do the tours and then you know, just keep like really it is a grind, yeah, you know. And then even like a couple of years ago, the music has that you've done has changed a lot

from when you first came out. Yes, And that's the thing. The people that know the music and people that's in the music industry that know that it is a grind to understand all that goes into it, they respected, but it's like, yeah, they expect. I mean, they respect the growth, they respect the fact that I'm out here. They see me out here. You know by myself to just put

it together and figuring it out. But as you know, it's the people outside looking in who really think the hip hop heads they think they hip hop heads and then they put that, yeah, it's like the p your favorite rapper, like you said, he likes me, you know, right, So people probably think like since you know, you come from a and you think, Emily, that it's just gonna be handed to you and you're only doing it because you're walking in those footsteps. But they don't realize that

this is really what'sin you. Rather it came from your parents had not, this is really what's in you, and you're really really a writer or artists, a creative and this is how you're going to live your life. And I'm not thinking they have to respect that your parents will produce amazing talent exactly Like yeah, I feel like you're purposely trying not to call in those favors either.

I do it just like you know, Yeah, I don't know, man, I was young, and I just said I had a vision as just a young age, and I just knew how to go about it, and I just stuck to it. I knew I didn't want to come out to gave no features. I knew I could, I knew I didn't want nobody. I kind of wanted to like I wanted to be organic. Definitely wanted to just be organic and get people to understand who I. I don't know why I understood that at a young age, but I just

seen that. And as I just kept doing that, you know, I just run into different people, dope artists, the Smoke, Rap City, Anthony Hamilton's Nasty See. These are the people that's on the album, and they just you know, they just felt that, they felt that and they loved the music, and here we are yet to do what you know now he sent me some beats man. Yeah, he um.

Our relationship right now is just I had let him know, like during the whole PlayStation thing, I was selling PlayStations and you know, he called me and was like, hey man, you still got them PlayStations. I'm like, I don't, but I will. You know, yeah, what you're talking about. Got him a PlayStation to um North Carolina. The same day he couldn't find none of them. And then he was he had a show in Atlanta. He called me telling me, you know, I got a show in Atlanta. I said, man,

I know you gotta show in Atlanta. Everybody's going to the show. And he said, yeah, man, I lost my Xbox. You know you got any more Xboxes? I said, yes, I do. I didn't have an Xbox. Yes, I do have Xbox, and I will get it to you. Figured it out. Figured it out. But that's like our relationship right now. He asked me, like, you know what I owe you, and I'd be like, you know, don't worry about it, you know, just send me some beats and you know, we're all good. And that's what he did,

send me some beats and yeah, we'll see where it goes. Well, I can't wait a good beats. Good beats. Man. He really he's the type of person where he just sit on the phone and he'll just really like make sure you understand anything that he's talking about. Like he's he'll send the phone thirty forty minutes to hour just talking to you, like he was just on his computer. I was trying to get out the phone because I felt like he maybe was trying to get out the phone,

but he was. But no, he was like really like showing me like all these beats and the scroll. They just let me know which one will here, tell me like just how he thinks you what he thinks I should do to improve certain stuff and writing and music, and he just really said it. Just had a whole conversation, and that man is a really good dude. He just sits and just tries to help him just show people different perspectives. But we'd love to hear that. Yeah what cold?

All right, Well, listen to Mont. We appreciate you so much for coming through and blessing us. And you know we were all vibing too the album too, So congratulations on that. Thank you. Scott Dive. Yeah, would you do it again? Y'all did four jumps and one day and I was jumping by myself. I had instructors in the air with me, but no one was like attached to me. I put my own parachute. That's where everybody he asked me, did you pull your part? I put my own parachute,

and it was very relaxing. It was very relaxing. That's what I would think. Okay, So let me ask you this. It feels like the hardest part is jumping, Like to ask me fall just act like you feel Because I said I could see myself being right there on the edge and I supposed to and being like, I don't know about this. Now they're gonna push you. Yeah, because you you probably didn't commit it. You're already up here

on this plane. He's sucking drove and flew up here four thousand feet you're finna jump, dude, I don't know what your heart. I mean, you did it four times so clearly the video, man, it looked like I did it before. Everybody saying it was your first time. I was like, yes, I thought they had to have somebody on there with you. The first time I was taking classes, I thought I was going to be attached to somebody. I didn't want to, but I thought I was. But

it just shows how much I wasn't paying attention. And I just sat in like a two or three hour class and I thought, you know, I mean, I had to start one thing, and it really was does and I was like, a ready, I was like, Okay, let's do it. But yeah, jumped out with U two instructors for the first two jumps. Then the last two jumps was one instructor. And when you open that parachutes, you on your own. It's all about the landing is the most important part. And yeah, man, I can say it

was very relaxing and it's fun again. Yeah, I'm getting my license, so you gotta do twenty five jumps to get your license, or at least twenty five jumps. And I mean they say, you know, I mean you've you've you've learned all of these things, and you mean we feel like you're experienced enough to be able to jump wherever you want because we didn't taught you everything. That thing was a nice metaphor. Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm definitely getting so about how you learn. You know, it's

easy to jump. Everybody can't learn. All right, Well, DENMANI again, thank you so much and thank you. Can't wait till you did it so bad. Man. I feel like it's gonna be some stuff afterwards, but we hope we didn't check about. Thank you. Guys. Let's tell girlfriend, it's all good. You know, we got you got worry about. He got no no where about he learned all right, So what's service, right,