Episode 289: No Hostages Here (Feat. Sabrina Parr)

lot of that was the goal. That's the goal, because I do feel like, you know, when you showed up and you were engaged to lamar Odom, people definitely were like, Okay, what's the motive here, what's going on with her? Who is she? But I do feel like it did give it some good insight, just into like your upbringing, who you are as a person, and all the struggles that

you've gone through to make you who you are today. Absolutely, um, I was just honored to have been chosen because during that relationship, I would always say, like, what is wrong with everybody? Like they don't even know me, they have no idea you know who I am and you know that I am supposed to be in this position, and so I think the show really showcased a lot of those answers, you know, um so, and it was just a great opportunity. Is it kind of better? Sweet now?

Since we know that y'all are not together and Lamar is pretty much obviously all through that uh documentary if you want to call um you know, to be honest, it doesn't take away from the excitement that I feel about my story because it's really my story. It sucks that we can't be promoting it together because we created

it together. You know. Obviously I was chosen for the show because I was behind him at one point, you know, um and so, and I kind of like my heart just kind of goes out to him because it's like, all, this is another thing we did together that now we have to do separately. So but I've just really been trying to focus on you know, this story is about me, you know, and I'm excited to see my mom had to say, you know, because we really had to push to get her one there that was sad, Oh don't

tell me that. I don't know. I'm just saying. Surprise was like she was telling, you know, it made you tear up a little just seeing some of that. She cried, you know that she kind of had to get coached through some parts. But I can only imagine. I mean, my mom has been through a lot so and so have you, yes with her without her, so we are both on the other side of it. So that's the good thing. People don't really know why you guys broke up, Like we just saw it happened, and we saw that

you were no longer together. And then we saw he said you were holding his social media accounts hostage, Like what was that? I think he's still saying that. Um, he actually just told me that we interviewed him. I interviewed him on my morning show, and he told me that she still have his socials and everything. Okay, UM, so you know, I am allowing Lamar to create whatever narrative wants to create. I didn't want to get into

the back and forth thing, you know. I started a little bit, just showed a few things of what was on my end, and I said, you know what, UM, I'm gonna allow my page, my personality, my actions to show who I am and where my energy really is, you know, And I think that over the last couple of weeks, I've done that. Um, in regards to your question, Angela, it just didn't work out. You know. I don't want to speak on specifics because then it will get into a back and forth and I just feel like I'm

moving forward. UM. There's a lot of things that I could have responded to that I'm continuing to not respond to, you know, but I will say this, like in regard to his social media, like anyone who gets hacked or feels like they don't have control of their page, Instagram has a great support system where you could just contact them and just get something new. You know, you can get a new email, path s, work, whatever it is.

So if him and his team have not figured that out because they believe that I have something, then maybe they might need a different team. Him and his manager both said is linked to your emails? Because I asked him, I'm like, aren't you posting and things like that, and he said, yeah, you know, I can't change the password I'm logged in, but it goes straight to her emails. We've tried to contact, and then he even kind of solicited, like anybody that works for Instagram or Twitter, if you

can reach out to me. I would love for you to help because she's definitely holding it hot. Well, I'll say this, if I had access to his page, guys, I would have took a lot of stuff down a long time ago. Okay, Um, especially the video that's blatantly disrespecting me. Let's just be honest. You know, like, if I had control over anything on his page, anything disrespected to Sabrina would have been gone. That's all I'm going to say. And I hope whatever struggles they're having they

figure it out soon. Why do you think he's making that attention? It's a storyline to run with. And maybe he truly does believe that. I mean, I haven't talked to him, you know, he may really believe that I have access to it. I just don't know a woman who would have access to that page that would allow disrespect to be happening. You know. Um, with the snap of a click of a button, I can shut the

whole thing down if I had access to it. Um. But also all I can say is I don't If I tried to log into his page right now, it will literally show his phone number and whatever email address that has been changed. Obviously throughout our duration of our relationship, I had access to everything at one point. You know, Um, that's kind of normal, I think when um and him as well. You know, he knew how to get right

into my phone. But the whole time, I don't know if that because my man ain't got no ac well in our relationship, Okay, I think I think Lamar was just kind of used to people doing so and things for him, and so I kind of just replace that and just step into that role. He's also not very social media savvy, so um, a lot of times I would have to help him find d M post certain things. You know, he would do a lot of contracts with people that involved having the post, having to at people

tagged them. He didn't want to do those things, so um, and then he forgets a lot of his log ins. So we all always right, so but with me so I can remember it, I put it in my notes, I have it written down somewhere, you know, but that's only accessible if you can get into the iPhone. So um. Anyways, I did have access to access to it at one point when we broke up, I literally deleted everything off of my phone. I let him know I was doing that. I told him, if you need help resetting the password,

I will let I will help you. He refused to take the help. And the craziest thing is his manager um him. They have not once contacted me and asked me for anything, not one time since they made that statement, the original statement. Have they said, hey, do you have his password or whatever? So, um, I just didn't want to get into the back and forth, but Sabrina, I do want to say I'm sorry that things didn't work out.

I know a lot of times we go into these relationships and we do not anticipate all the drama and how things could possibly come to an end. Like you fall in love and you think this is it, and then you never think that the person that you fell in love with that it could end up like this, you know. So I do want to say that I

am sorry that things didn't work out for you. So for you that do not feel sorry for me to any I'm not gonna sorry for you, but I'm saying I'm sorry because I know we never get into a situation thinking it's gonna go as left publicly, and I know that's not easy too publicly because people have painted you as the bad person, you know, she's manipulative and he's taking advantage of the situations. He's cloud chasing. You know, how do you respond when people say things like that.

I don't. I do not respond. I just continue to operate in my world, in my space, and it's working out very well for me. To be honest, Um, I think the more that I try to come back, which I haven't. But when I first first first saw the stuff about the passwords, my manager was literally like, is there anything you can post to show that you don't have that on your phone? I said sure. After I posted that I was done, I was like, it doesn't

matter what he says. Moving forward, as long as there's nothing directly about my kids, I am not responding to anything, you know, I am just not doing it because my focus is on myself, that is it. And the more I continue to engage with people on social media that could talk to me in real life, the more I'm moving in the opposite direction, you know, And I'm really just moving forward, so I continue to have forward momentum

when I do not respond. Why do you think Matt Barnes had something to say about you, but and you responded to him? He was one of the only people I did see respond to. But you know what you think made him say something? I think it's what I said. It was that he liked men. Oh, and that's what I told him. I think only someone that is bisexual or homosexual would want to personally say something to a woman that they have never met and know nothing about.

I think that is a very female and feminine trait. Well, he probably was really just sticking up for his book. But but he that's not his boy. But that's not his boy. That's not his boy. And so that and I actually had a personal conversation with something after that, because if I was your boy, where were you during other moments when I was his only boy? You get what I'm saying. So where were you at when Kobe passed?

When were you at when he was feeling some type of way about people find out that he's sold his rings? You know, like, don't be his boy just because you see a girl's dancing. I mean, there's so many opportunities you could have showed up to be his boy, It's all I'm saying. So it's easy to say, oh, this is my boy, but no it's not. You don't even have his phone number. You don't even know how to reach him. M hm. Now let me ask you that. So you haven't watched the episode yet, right, so are

you going to watch it when it comes out? I am. I'm really excited about Um my friend Jasmine, who's actually on the episode. I'm sure she's the one thing I don't know, Um how much of her is on there? Um? Her family? Uh, just some close friends, um, and that's probably it. Like just a very intimate setting. I'm kind of anxious. I don't want to be out around a lot of people because I really feel like watching my

mom is gonna make me emotional. So well it will okay, Well yeah, so just a lot just around some really close friends and family. I was gonna ask you, did your friends and family how did they feel about your relationship? Where they ever? Like, I don't know about this one because they're very somebody else the guy that you were with before. Yeah, so um, some of them were kind of like alright, Sabrina, what we're doing here? You know,

how how long are we doing this? And um, others the more seasoned, we're kind of like, you know, push through, give us some time. Things can change. Um. But the thing is like they knew the very intimate details of the relationship because they were here and you know, Lamar was living with me in Cleveland, Ohio, so they saw everything. Um and so well, I'll say this, when we broke up, like they were not surprised and they just really wanted to see me happy, and like they definitely are seeing

that now. Like you know, you focus so much on another person that you kind of lose yourself. And um, I did a good job with you know, continuing to work out and self caring those things, but it's like just like my spiritual self, my emotional self, you know, gets lost in trying to support this relationship, you know, and support the person you're in a relationship with. So I don't have to be concerned with that anymore. So

I really just really get to focus on me. And I just kind of forgot how dope I can be at times, like you know, just being hodest, you know, like, wow, I forgot to do this and I forgot I am this, you know, like because it hasn't been about me. Um. So that's just been enjoying for them to watch and just like refreshing for me to feel. Now the beginning, y'all, wasn't having sex. And do you do that when you

get into relationships? Do you be like, all right, no, we're not gonna have sex into a certain amount of time or did you just try that with him? Every relationship has been different, Um, this one in particular, I decided I was gonna wait because I just heard about his reputation, you know, and I just needed to see who he was, you know, and sex can kind of complicate that, um, And I just needed to see, you know, what are you here for? You know, what would the

interaction be like if we're not being intimate? And in the beginning, I think that's what really built a friendship for us, because we spent a lot of time with each other but was not having sex. So what was it that made you decide to go ahead and give him something? Give up the ring? No? No? When we proposed to me, When when he proposed to me, we were abstinent. Um. We didn't have sex that night any

like no night around that we were abstinent um. But I think it was just, you know, he showed he was really committed to the relationship, you know, Like I had a lot of boundaries that had at of no I'm not doing no, I don't allow and he was just like okay, okay, hey, UM didn't cross those boundaries. And so I just really felt like, you know what, he's really serious. You know, if he's done all of this and has not gotten anything, you know, sexually, for me,

he may really be serious about this. I've never gone through accidence in a relationship, so so oh wow, if I have, really it really helps you experience real intimacy. So remove some questions about accedence. Okay, you can't have sex, but are there other things that you can do? Like what I mean, you can, but we chose not to because I'm just not strong enough. I'm gonna be honest. So it's like we were there, we might as well keep it going, you know. So for me, it was

just like, let's not even play around with this. You can kind like those are all intimacy, like real intimacy. That's why I say you experienced real intimacy when you're not having sex. You know, there were times we would just fall asleephold hands, you know, like imagine the connection you created doing that, um, and so it's powerful. It's not easy, especially when you're living together and spending so

much time together. But you know, if you understand the purpose of why you're doing it, then uh, and you focus on that in goal, then it actually becomes really really really powerful force in your relationship. How long How long was that time frame you guys? Oh? Man, Um, we weren't even together that long, so it was let's see, met in June. So I would probably say like a total of like four or five months, okay, and then that's yeah, that's a lie. And you all were together

a lot, so yes, we were always together. But then y'all did break up and get back together, right. That was kind of like we did at a couple of times, like, um, you know sometimes when I'm upset, like I'm a quitter, I'd be like, just get out, I'm done, you know, like check block you, you know, like in my anger, I don't want to fight, I just want to be done. Um. But when that statement was put out, that was kind of like the starting point of me being like I'm

exiting this relationship, you know. And then I had an ultimatum that I gave him after that statement was put out, and I said, you know, there's only one thing you can do for us to get back together, and he said, whatever I gotta do, I'll do it. He decided to do that, and then when it came down to the time, he was sup post that he didn't do it, and so that is when I was literally like, okay, what

was Yeah? What was it? I just don't want to say um because again it will start a lot of back and forth, you know, But UM, I think my statement that was put out was kind of clear that we were having some troubles in some areas and our lifestyles just were not the same. And so it was like, you know, I need to change this area of your lifestyle and if not, then I can't move forward with this. So um, you know, decisions have to be made. And

I was able to walk away with in peace. So you don't think this is another instance where maybe I'll break up and get back together because he did say he loves you. Oh, I on pent have no desire

to ever revisit the situation with Lamordom. Right, what if how do you explain and normally reached out our show off at the tip of the day, so as somebody who has just been through this, right, how the tip of the day for today, we want you to give our listeners, is how do you know when it's time to walk away from something when you've given it your all and you're like, I can't do anymore, when you just have no peace? And I think a good indication of not having peace is like when you're just not

acting like yourself. You know, and we all know what that looks like. You like, I can't leave. I just did that. I can't. I just said that, you know, like when you're just not yourself, you know, which means you have no peace and so um in anything. So that is a good and that could be early on. You know, every woman has a threshold. Everyone's time frame is different, you know the things I put up with.

I know women that could have went through that for years, other women that rely on the first side of that, you know. So everyone's threshold is different. You have to understand where your worthy is. But the moment I knew like I can no longer go on with this happening is when I knew it's time to find an exit rout. I agree with you on that because there is um for myself too. I also feel like when I'm not acting like myself and I'm arguing, when I'm like depressed

more than normal. When I'm more sad than happy, I'm like, this is not me, Like, this is not like person. When I'm not like, you know, fulfilling my obligations and things that I have to do, because I'm more concerned about that person than I am about my responsibilities. I'm this isn't a good situation for me. And it was kind of Um. You know, I can't say how he felt because I haven't spoken with him, and the interviews and things he's done, I haven't listened. But for for me,

I just knew. You know, I tell people this all the time. You have to ask yourself a question in the relationship, if the current situation doesn't change, will you be happy? Because a lot of times we stay in things in hopes of, you know, this may it better. I hope this works, if you know, And so the reality is it may not. You know, it may remain that exact situation. So the answer is no, I won't

be happy. Then you're forced to make a decision, you know, and um Lamar knows more than anyone our truths of what happened, why we split. Um, that's why I said, I'm allowing him to say whatever narrative he wants because I do know men have egos, you know. Um, and he's lamar old him. You know, he's a legend. He has to remain he has to look good. You know, his image cannot be tainted by a woman. How how dare I you know? So? Um, whatever he needs to

say that makes him, you know, support that image. I rock with it. Do you still love him? Because he said he still loves you? Do you still love him? Oh? Yeah, I do. I love him a lot. He was my friend, you know. Um. There are times I'm just concerned for my friend, you know, I do. People send me stuff all the time. Um, there's still been some form of

contact through people, and as a friend. My heart goes out to him sometimes because no man who says I love you, who proposed, who wanted to get married, who you saw the interview, I'm sure he spoke very well of me, who really felt thought that way, is happy that the situation has ended. You know, there could have

been some grief, some sorrow, some something. And because I don't see him going through any of that at any point, Um, my heart goes out because I'm like, wow, you can't really feel you know, Um, I went for about three weeks I grieve. I'm being honest, you know, I put up a post like the first week, I'm not getting out of bed. Somebody needs to come get my daughter,

you know, because I'm a wreck. I'm a mess, you know. UM, heavy with my therapist, you know, very honest and transparent with my friends, just going through the motions in my mind. I mean, I went through a heavy grieving process where like I'm not going anywhere. I don't even want to get up and look cute because it's gonna force me to just get busy and you know, create a false reality. So that first three weeks, and this was three weeks before the world found out right we had been broken up.

People found out when he made that well when it was on his page about the passwords, um. And but I was like, by then, I was like, I'm over it, Like I'm not even grieving anymore, you know. So a good timing for me, because that could have hit me like a can of bricks, you know. And I was just like, by y'all, you know, if you ain't got no pass words by now, you know. Um. But I truly, with my friends and family, grieved, you know, the loss of my friend, the loss of the interaction him and

I had. You know, he was staying in my house. You know, my daughter was attached to him. It was a holidays you know, we were just together on Thanksgiving, you know. So, Um, once I got through that process, it was just like, you know, yes I do. I am concerned for my friend at times. Um, if I hear anything positive, I'm happy for my friend. The love

will probably be there forever. You know. I literally would love to look up and see Lamar one day and be like, Wow, look how well he's doing, you know, and that's it. We would be a lesson that you can say that you learned from your experience in this relationship that you would take with you moving forward to a new relations ship. Um, you know, you just I would say, when someone appears to be unhealthy, you just have to allow them to go get healthy, you know, like,

don't try don't try to Yeah. And and there were times where I think people think I tried to fix him. What I tried to do? I would ask Lamar, what is it that you want to do? And he would tell me, and I said, okay, well let me support you in that. You know, even if it was getting back into shape. He told me all the time, I want to play basketball again. Okay, well, let's do it. Let's go to the gym. You know every morning. There were times I would wake him up at five, we

go to lifetime. Um, I would make him do two fifty makes, not shots makes. I would count all the makes. I would count all the miss mrs. I would calculate his percentages. We would run a mile, we would go lift later. Because it's what you told me you wanted to do, you know. Um. And then if that changed, Okay, I don't want to do this, ef you want let's do this. Okay. I'm just gonna support you and whatever

it is you want to do. You know. That's that's healthy, right because obviously with him not being in the NBA, he's figuring his life out like a lot of guys. Do what is it that you want to do moving forward? What is going to be the thing that makes you money? You know? Um, let's figure that out and let me support you in that as long as it makes sense, you know, on both ends of the spectrum. Um, what kind of dad do you want to be? Let me help you figure that out. So it wasn't just like Lamar,

this is broken. You gotta you know, like I wanted him to be him, but the unhealthy areas, when I saw what those were, I should have made a conscious decision then to say, this probably isn't gonna work for me, you know, because I have trauma because of this. You know, I grew up in that environment. It doesn't allow me to be myself when I see you doing certain things and I don't know if you're gonna stop, So I hope, I hope you will. I pray you will. You know, um,

I think you will. But all of that is not you did, you know, so it should have been Hey, until this happens, we can revisit the situation. The problem was when I got out with Lamar, I let him know. You know, I have a problem with drugs period. You know. I don't like to operate around I like to be around it. I want my kids around it. And that includes weed and you because you did have your own

issues that you went through and you are yes. And even though I didn't be myself morphine, you know, it was still in my system and it was something I became very dependent on and um and then growing up in a you know, abusive environment. But because of that, I expressed to him that's a problem for me, you know. Um, so we stopped. You know. So when you have a man that's just so willing to do or not do things to make the relationship work, you kind of a

little bit more patient. But the truth is, men can't do things to make you happy. They have to make things because it makes them happen, because they're ready to do it, you know. And that can be confusing because it kind of appears the same because if you stop smoking, you stop smoking, you know. But I really needed to revisit, well, I needed him to visit with a therapist because I didn't want to be the therapist, like get into therapy and figure out why you you know, have to do

this or do the desire or unable to stop. And um that that just didn't that didn't that didn't have that wasn't the end results. So the drugs didn't stop. Um, that's what we're getting from this. It was that he still was using. You know, people say things too, like we've seen the Drink Champs interview and people felt like, you know, he was going through something. And even again, like I said, I interviewed him the other day in the comments, was like, is he hi now? So is

that you know? Is that still an issue you believe? I don't know what Lamar is doing. I have not spoken to him, so I cannot speak on what he's he's dealing with right now. Current if it calls you, if he calls you with you answer, do you believe that he doesn't call me? Okay, so he has been calling you. Just like I said, I am going to allow his narrative to be his narratives, right because despite the rumors of what people want to believe about me,

you know, my truth is my truth. And you know, when you're like innocent, like you don't really have to. I mean, I'm not in court, you know, so I don't feel the need to defend myself to strangers. I am talking and stuff. So my friends and family they know,

like everyone knows that that matters, I'll say. And I do also feel like, you know, I don't know if this was Lamar's character before to be so outspoken with these type of things, you know, um, and so to me, it just seems like you just want to be heard, and so go ahead and tell whatever story you gotta tell to be heard. You know, I'm just not going to combat. And I also don't want to say anything negatively about him to even start that whole back and forth.

You know, what did you learn about yourself from all this and what you went moving forward in a partner? It's funny did you say that because the shape room had like posted like name the qualities you wanted a man? And you know, I was commented on the shape room way before I ever was on the shape room. So I was like, okay, everybody heard of me. Look, you

can't say anything more. I say, Um, I put healthy, sober, okay for the room, right and never ly And I was but that's what I learned, you know, Like that's what I learned. No, I didn't have anything to a finances. Did I know you got the broke? I did not. Didn't you say something about him being broke? See, I don't know. I read it on one of the bugs that you said he was broke. Finding where I said that man was okay, find it and people. But when people say that, I'm like, show me, show me where

I said that. You know, um, I think anything I say though, they think it's about Lamar you know, like I've been posting quote way before hit me like it's just it's who I am. But um so healthy, sober, Yes, I can remember the other two things that I um but I wrote. But and healthy for me, I'm an athlete. I want to work out, you know, I like to play basketball. It's what I do, you know, So I

need that in the park. That's what I need. You know if if I'm getting them going to the gym and you're not that bothers me, you know, like I need us to be on the same page with that. That's kind of what I mean. Like healthy, you know, like care about your health, um, care about what you put in your body. Yeah, and all of that because you know, I don't want to be eating you know, spinage, rice and vegetables, and it's like I have to fire

you chicken, you know like that. It's like it's just you know, and then I'm at the hospital with you because you are your arteries are clogged or now you have you know, like because there's side effects to everything, you know as you get older. So um, just someone that already understands, you know, a healthy body, a healthy mind, you know, it's all equates to self love sober like people being high and just needing to be high like that just doesn't work for me, you know, because I

don't get high. So if you're getting high, well then what am I doing? But what about a recreation on marijuana? Like every now and then somebody smokes weed? Could you do that or no? Yes, I've done that before. Um And and I don't think everyone that smokes weed is an addict, But an addict smoking something is a problem. You know, most addicts should probably not do anything, you know. Um And I learned that from my mom. You know, as you know from the show, she struggled with addiction.

She won't drink, she won't do anything because everything triggers the addicts brain to go back to. You know. It's kind of like how they feel avoid how they deal with trauma is getting high. So anything could be a trigger. So, um, that's a problem. But people doing recreational I mean, I smoke hooka. It's not a good girl. That's the healthiest thing, you know. I drink wine, I drink liquor, you know, but I don't overuse it. I don't over drink it

because I'm not an addict. So that's important to me and a partner, you know, and being a good father, you know, if you already have kids, Like how do your kids feel about you? How do you interact with your children? You know, are they going to be upset with me because you're with me and they haven't seen you? You You know, like these things matter, you know, Um did you meet his kids plenty of time? Because daughter

was at the engagement party? Um, you know, Dessie and I actually spent some time with each other, um l J not as much and rightfully so, like I respect their feelings position you know, who knows what all they went through with their dad, you know and their mom. So UM, I really just have to respect whatever their position was. But um, in reality, you know, they just want their dad, you know, like by themselves, and so seeing him do anything outside of that is just challenging

for them. And I saw that with the time that I spent with them. M but saping it. We appreciate you for being so open and honest, and I can't wait for you to say get me in trouble. Well, you didn't say anything negative perfectly, like I just listen. I will continue to say whatever he says. This let it be the truth, y'all. Let him have it. You gotta be sitting some wine and something's gonna happen, and you're gonna be like, Okay, now, no, I have been tempted.

I have been tempted. But this is why it's important to have good people around you, because they say, like, Okay, we're gonna be the results of this. Is he even a position to be honest? You know? Is he even speaking for himself? You know, he has some people around him right now. They are very vocal, you know, so, um, is it even worth it? So? I think what I

portrayed on my page, it's really who I am. You know, if you scroll down before Lamar, you'll see me doing the same things literally, you know, exercise and playing basketball, dressing up, being cute, motivating, empowering women, selingtee selling wage trainers. It's just it's just what I've what I've done, and so I'm still that person. Okay, well, well listen, we already saw it, but I know people are gonna be

watching and weighing in when that episode airs. But I did appreciate learning more about you as a person because I know you were thrust into the spotlight just because of who you were dating. But now we get to see who you are as unexpectedly, I might add, unexpectantly. I was like, oh my gosh, I didn't you tell me this is what you were about to do. UM. I could have been a little bit more prepared for but it happened. It is what it is. But they good for a business for you as a trainer and

like working with people. Was it at least good for business in the beginning, No, because I was overwhelmed with orders and I just was not like equipped. I didn't have the team for it. Oh my god, it was so unprepared. I was like that day he posted me, I had like five orders. I was wasn't even with my work stuff, but was in l a with him. I'm like, we gotta hire somebody. I gotta, you know,

try to figure this out. But it actually taught me how to be a better businesswoman, how to UM operate better in customer service, you know, and also told me like, wow, I have some really good products, you know, like people, there was a need for what I'm selling UM. And then there was a time when Lamar really supported what

I did. It really pushed my brand and my my products. So, Um, I think people really can't remember that Lamar Oldom but um that helped because it was like it was the person I was with was very supportive of what I had going on. Yeah, I'm a big kan if I was looking at the bright side of things. At least this came out of it. At least I learned this. At least I know more about myself. At least being with him got me on this show on the own network,

you know, to talk about my life. The concept of the entire show was amazing, you know, to highlight the phenomenal women in these men's lives. I mean, I just love that to have been chosen to be one that probably wouldn't have happened this stage in my life if it wasn't for Lamar. You know. Um even there's something coming out really soon and they're gonna really be able to visually see how Lamar and I acted, um interactive

with each other. So stay tuned for that, and you can't come back real life videos um so UM that's exciting and um like really really soon. So by the time this show airs on your podcast days later, you will probably seeing the war and I interacting um in our relationship, And is it hard for you to watch that? Well, I haven't seen it yet, but of course it will be, you know, because I just have to be honest, you know, that was my man. I loved him, you know. Um,

I thought we were going to be together forever. You know, I thought I was marrying him in November, you know, So for that to be done, I would be inhuman to say, it's not hard, you know, Um, but that was a good season in my life, you know, like the whole relationship was not bad. You know. Because it ended doesn't mean that it was just a horrible time in my life. It was a great time in my life. Him and I had so much fun together. I've learned

so much because of him. I was able to have so many different experiences that I would not have had if it wasn't for the bar and our relationship, you know. And I learned a different level of compassion and empathy, you know, dealing with a man like that. So, um, moving into the next relationship, I learned for my mistakes, I know how to be better, you know. I know

the things that I did really well. So it's not all the lost cause, but you know, it can be tough to watch because I'm gonna be like, oh, I remember that moment, and that was a really good because you were you too are filming a reality show, so that's still coming out. It is still coming out perfect timing, right, And so all of these shows are kind of like, these are my responses. I'll let you guys decide. Maybe this will be a big story line Like the Kardashians.

I feel like he learned something from them when he was over there. I'm sure no, he did learn a lot. Um. You know, I don't really know what his space he's in. Um, just hearing the little things that I hear. I hope it moves to a space of just you know, an open heart and open mind so that he can just be a little bit more at peace with the situation. But either way, it will allow these same fans to see for themselves what was going over you know, how

were they really interact too with each other? You know? Or she just spending his money or you know what, what was really happening? You know? Um? And when I hear the whole gold gold digger thing, it really makes me laugh. He was with you because you're like, I'm hello, his belly Andry. I said, you called them broke. You you said that he was running low on cash. I was trying to find until he said something like that. Right, I see like ten articles. I didn't click on it.

So I'm gonna tell you what I did. Look, I'm going to tell you what people are referencing. Okay, there was a Tyler Perry quote that I reposted. That's it. Before you get married. You have to learn people in all four stages, when they're happy, angry, sad, and so remember I reposted that and then I added to it, you definitely learned who a person is when they're broke. That is what I said. That sounds like shay girl,

but it was right after we broke up. It wasn't a timeline, but but shade to you know, it could be in shade to a family member, and you know, it could have been shade to a co worker an employer that I had. I think it's anything I say right now, it's like you're talking about lamar, like I have other things going on, you know. So that's why I said, like I never said that, you know, um, But but people will be able to see what's true what's not just based one how he lives, how I live.

You know what the situation was, and I it's kind of productive for me to say anything negatively about him. I'm just gonna be honest. But your house looks nice from right I am. I'm in Cleveland, Ohio. Remember how stif we had in Cleveland. In Cleveland, I'm glad, Like what's in Cleveland. I'm like Cleveland US now. But we were in that downtown area where they have all the nice rested rhyme said lows nice. Yeah, DJ step Loss we got to step Yeah, that's my god. I've known

him since I was like five years old. Well, yeah, that's who we were with Cleveland times. You'll go back a little further. He's from Shaker, you know from the documentary the show. I'm from Shaker as well. So he was going to school there when I was going to school there. Um. Yeah, he's a really good friend of line and he'd be doing all that and he does all that running and he does um he's I used to be. I used to be part of his car run with the Winner. Um. I used to be a

part of that group before I moved to Atlanta. Since I've moved back in the whole COVID thing. I don't even think they've had it going on. Um, but yeah, he is vegan, so I love that he's thinking about his health now. Uh. And he doesn't day as much anymore either, so he's not drinking as much as he used to. I'm assuming, um, but all the time, ever, we shot at the shot after shot we've seen in a documentary. I wanted to say that you've done a little bit too. So, like when you was in there,

how did you make the time pass? I know you you're able to keep your legs closed, but was the girl's hitting on you in there? You know what? I think I just had an aura where it was like, don't try me, you know, like and but I was also they nicknamed me like the librarian, like I was busy reading, you know, like you couldn't do where I was. The facility I was in, like, you couldn't exercise, you can't go outside, there's literally nothing to do, and the

facility is overpopulated. So we were on something called red zone was and you just can't come out of your room because it's not enough inmates to staff ratio, right, so you either will lose your mind or you'll find something to do with your mind. And so my dad was the one that actually was because he's done a lot of time, was the one able to guide me on what to do, you know, um, to not lose your mind and to not become an at it because a lot of people they just go to the mad car.

They get something to deal with their anxiety, the depression, and they get out and they still are looking for that medicine. So he taught me, stay away from the mad car. I don't care what you do, don't give, don't have them give you anything, and find something to focus on. And so I focused on reading self help books, books on finance. Business is actually where I came in with the whole get up to part name and business. When I was incarcerated and I read over fifty five

books in six months. I just yeah, and I wasn't a reader before, you know, but it was like, okay, I have to do something. I became addicted to send me the next book, you know um. And so that is what I did. That is how I passed time. And then I started writing my own books. What about a hundred pages of it, you know, my life story.

Why I went to jail, what was happening while it was in jail, which I will finish very soon, amazing story because it will go into detail like just what happened while respect and my ex husband because he's such a great man, he's a great dad, but just really talking about me. So this will be like the extended version of my episode on Behind the Man. So and then you came and got an amazing shade too, which you know what I'm about to say. Gigi went to jail for a week and came bad of her girlfriend.

I didn't not so she still loves her do somebody in there. I just let her like do things for me with her mouth sometimes, I see. I was. I couldn't get past like the nasty environment, like honestly was like my nerves are you under the bus? I was. I didn't even want to touch myself, like I couldn't shave what you know. It was just like this ain't

the season for that, you know. Like and so then it taught me like if I can go six months without doing a thing, or I'm out here in these days streets, you know, like they can't they can't brib me to do anything, you know, So um, all of it worked out for the best. It made me stronger. I learned a lot. Um, that's another season of my life. You know that I'm very transparent about people trying to use it against me, and I'm like, I've been posted my own mug shot way before you do who I was.

You know, like, I'm okay with this, but they literally will be like you he should have never been with somebody went to jail, you know. Like people are always really just mind their business. The problem is their business is so hurtful for them, Like they can't even tap into their own business, you know, so they have to be over here with me or them or whatever, and like that's just the reflection of self, you know. Um, when you're just ugly inside, you just have to find

something ugly about other people. And I've really learned that, so I promise you I do not take a personal when strangers face like you don't even know me, and people just be assuming things and saying crazy, they know me, they know everything. They were in our bed, they know exactly what money was being spent, what we were doing, you know. So I think it's just funny when they say, like you did this with him, Like when you where,

you know. So that's why the show is gonna be so dope because it's literally going to show what they know. And I'm so real on there, Like there's days like I'm not putting on makeup, I'm wearing my Nike hat, you know, Like I'm really myself, you know, every day. I'm not trying to be the cute girl that's on the TV like you know, I'm operating with business, you know, on my son and all this stuff. I was really like, I want this to really be my reality or I'm

not doing it, you know. And that's the most powerful thing about the whole thing. So I can't wait for you guys to see that because I'm sure we'll be talking soon once you guys see it. Yes, we well and on there too and his wife. Yeah, I tryed to watch that one. But Sabrina, thank you so much. We appreciate you again from being self transparent and open about everything, and we are wishing you the best. We can't wait to see who you end up with next. Right, Well,

I'll say this that you're ready for. Are you ready to move on to a new relationship or do you feel like you need to take some time off of love before you take that step again. Oh, I'm definitely not ready at all because I'm struggling with like just trusting who people are. But there is someone that I'm getting to know, okay, and and you know, um he you know, he checks off some boxes, which is good.

You know those things I mentioned earlier, things that I need those qualities, um, and so just literally getting to know you know who he does. Yet there's nothing happening with these boxes. Um. But yeah, so and just learning like, Okay, even if it's really exciting in the beginning, just learning how to slow that down. You know, it's always exciting, and it again always right, and it's so exciting, like you ignore the red flags. The flags just be waving.

You'd be like, but I'm having so much fun, you know, I don't want to see that. So my therapist, she does a really good job with just giving me other things to think about and focus on, to kind of negate the excitement of getting to know someone, you know, like keeping me in touch with reality, you know, continuing to focus on me my needs. Um, just different practices. Because she was a part of our relationship and she was like, this time, we don't get to notice person.

You know, when she saw everything happening, she was like, I can't believe Lamar, we'll do that, we'll say that, And I was like, neither did I. You know, obviously we didn't notice man. So just that part is the part was scared that. I'm like, I'm not ready because I don't trust what you're saying to be true yet, you know, And that's not his problem. It's my problem,

you know, that's my insecurity. So I have to do the work to get in the place where I can be like, Okay, exactly what you're saying is what it is, and even if it isn't, I'm in a healthy enough space to respond to it so that don't come later. Um, I have so many things going on. The show's coming out that I just did a sneak about My skin care line is coming out, My athletic apparel line is

coming out. Yeah, It's like I'm literally and talk to the chemists now, full skin care line, you know, cosmetics line, Um, you know, rebranding my hole to bring up our fitness. So that's all day, every day, you know, So to have time for a man, it's like I really have to make it to be honest, and I haven't had like a week of no Lamar Odom news yet, which is important. Like and he's not not gonna happen anytime

soon coming up, I know. So it's like that's important to undertook consider like I need space where it's just like, wow, there's been nothing about Lamar to you know, Like I know, I know, but that's important for me to move on to the next chapter. It's like, and I'm not talking about the stuff that maybe on his page. I'm talking about like in my personal life, the things that he's not going to mention and be honest about that are

happening and being said. It's like I need that to clear up before I can really say I'm in this next relationship, you know, because that may cause some insecurities with any guy, Like okay, we've still gotten having to

do this on the phone, you know. So, Um, you're right, it's not gonna happen anytime soon, but God willing it will happen because like it'll just he'll just be gone somewhere and I don't and you can be able to move on in a healthy environment and you all look back and be like damn, I went through some ship. It's the lessons, it's the lesson. As long as you can take the life for its lessons and learn from it and move on, is never a loss. It's a

lesson being out. We appreciate you so much again behind every Man and then we're looking forward to what we are going to watch the reality show too and see how that plays out. That's a good but much support to you and much love. Thank you with all your adventures and everything you've got going on. Thank you. Same to you, gud, Thank you baby, alright. Thanks