Episode 27 Ft. Karen Civil

So how do you deal in a situation like that? How do you convey to him that you know that he's doing something grimy without telling him how? Um? Well, that recently happened to me um, And I just kind of said it because I was like, I have my emotions were running and I was already upset, and I'm like, I saw it. I was like, at this point, bucket, two wrongs make it right. So I was okay with it. He said, two wrongs make it right. I'm like, I know you were wrong, and I was, yeah, but excuses

my behavior because you were wrong first. So it's okay, okay, all right, So what do you do. Do you tell a guy like Karen told him and I've seen what was in your phone? I checked it? Yeah? What not me? I hold it down until I find the perfect piece of evidence to kill him. What but you already have the evidence? I know, but there could be more. You know, you just gotta wait for more. If I can't, I can't hold it depends like it depends like if I

find them just talking, I'll let them tall. No, you saw some real like I have fun with you last night, so I have to go home. Yeah, forget it? Noah, I tell everything. I'm like, I went through this, I've seen this. That's that. In the third I don't I'm not the type to hold it back. And what's the worst thing you've ever seen in somebody's phone? Mm hmm if you had to think of the worst than you said that. She was like maybe like a pussy picture? Yeah,

picture you have a pussy. That's a problem for me. I don't want no woman? Was it a pretty pussy? I don't think response? No, somebody my boy sent that. I mean to the message that you saw the picture? What it was? Martha Like, I didn't see the whole message? Threat on the photo. I kind of he kind of caught me going through it and I've seen it and I was like, yeah, why is this pictures of her pussy? That's not her pussy, that's something I was on it.

She was just trying to show me something. What. Yeah, I'm sure she was. Man are terrible like liars. Yeah, what's the worst thing you've seen? Karen? Um, It hasn't It hasn't been too bad. So you know, now the iPhones you can send the voice notes. So now it made a little bit harder because it was it was like, no more text messages I can see, but he saved the voice notes, so like I never thought about that. But when you're trying to snoop and you have to

hear the voice, no, you know, it's loud. So so that was really the only thing that was like super bad. It's just like I'm like, okay, it's one thing you can't say that you didn't say this or you didn't mean it in this way. It's like it's your fucking voice. Yeah, we expected you enough to go really the extra mile to make sure the text or he was being lazy, he could have been driving. It was like let me, let me text this bitch real quick or say whatever.

That's more incriminating to me. I would never send yeah, I not do the Yeah it was it was voice and I just got so frustrated. What weather like I love you or I missed that. I don't think I haven't even got Oh, but the new you can press that button in the tacks by mistake and you could send twenty minutes of a car. Yeah. I have to be careful. I don't even put my phone in my back pocket because I'm good at that with the with the butt dialing. People hear me be like, yeah, so

what are you doing, And I'm like at home. I'm like, no, bitch, you're not at home. It's like they have my whole conversation. Listen, I really caught somebody like that, Like the dude to me, he's out of town and I'm by myself whatever whatever, and I heard this bitch in the background and they're kind of like arguing and going back and forth, and I'm like, it was a voice note. He sent it to me by mistake, And this idiot gonna tell me no, it was somebody I was walking past in the store.

I swear that God like and I'm like, y'all, I talking to it. And then he was like, no, that was it wasn't no, that was that somebody else just walking past. They weren't talking to me. At what point did the guy just say, let me at least just tell the truth? Never? Never? They never never never, They're fine with just like taking the lot all the way, all the way through. I've never had someone go, like, in my years of relationships, go, you know what, I'm sorry,

I sucked up whatever the case may be. It's like, why were you snooping? Why did you do this? I'm like, you know I was gonna because I did this because I knew you weren't being honest and I had to do this. So technically I have a reason for doing what I was doing. What's your reason? That's why you never get one. That's what Guys don't understand that if I already know you're doing something, but you want to admit it and you keep lying to me, now you're forcing me to be You're forcing me to be a

detective and be a snoop. But not only that, I feel like you're trying to say that I'm an idiot. You know what, You're insulting my intelligence basically, you know what I mean, And they like, like you said, they'll take the lie as far as they can and they'll flip it like guys are math. They're manipulated at flipping situation. And even with all the evidence in their face, they're still going to line like, I don't know what you're talking. Oh you're talking about it's not like that. That's the

answer to everything. It's not like that. What are you talking about? I'm like, that's not even an answer. I'm just trying to get stuff together. What they come up with the craziest excuses and they're like, oh, you shouldn't have looked for that, because you know, sometimes you make something out of nothing, and if you look for something, you're gonna find it. And you don't trust me so much, so now you drove me to go do something I would have never normally did because you keep on question

no answer, have you ever cheated and gotten me? Or karen me, you ever cheated? And yeah, I've got I've got me. I've gotten caught before. Not in my last relationship. I didn't cheat. And any time that I ever did anything, I told on myself because I'm honest, like I have a guilty conscience. So you tell somebody I always tell I said, stop telling her your yeah, like will be have broken up and I'm like, oh, so what I fucked somebody else? And she like t they're not even together.

Why are you admitting what you're doing? It's none of his business. I don't know. I'm just I'm just like that. I mean, I'm not gonna snitch. Don't get it twisted, but like, I have something like with my conscience because I want someone to be honest with me. So I try to get somebody the same respect. But you can't respect somebody that's just a sucking asshole, but also the type of person if you tell her something about her man you like, listen, but tell you this. You can't

say nothing she's telling Let me tell you. I'm gonna try even before you finish. Your loyalty is to me this night. Okay, that's fine, So you're supposed to you're my friend, and he should understand that if his friends see me doing something and he didn't tell his friendaction. But you know, it may be awkward for some people to be in the middle of it. Now, Now, what if you don't break up and she comes over. Now it's awkward when she's staying, he's giving her attentions because together,

it's awkward because you're a liar. She told me the truth. You should funk with her, like, yea, that's really your friend, like she held you. That sounds good. That's how I would look at it, don't you guys, Guys don't look happy. I've had people telling me ship about and I won't tell the dude like this is who told me. I had people tell on me and I see the guys. You know what I mean? You hate him? No, you know what? Honestly, I'd be like, that's your man. One time.

One time my exes friend told me something he did and I told him stop working with him. I kept it real because I was like, that's not your friend. Like my friend is never gonna go to my boyfriend and be like, Yo, this bitches shet and on you. That sounds crazy. I was like, I was mad at him, don't get me wrong, but I was like, yeah, that's not your man, Like why is he telling me your business? That would have been my spy. I don't know. I'm just not like that. I don't know. Maybe tell me

stupid whatever, But I I don't like that. Y'all going tomorrow? Yeah, some pures. What a y'all doing? Yeah? Definitely? Are you here? Yeah? I mean I know you've been cheated. Have you ever got caught cheating, Stephanie? Yeah, But I think this is I think everybody knows this about me already. You know, I got caught cheating. I um, I was honest about I cheated, and then I told my man about it

and now we're broken up with you know. They always they always say that if you cheat on somebody and you don't get caught, and you're probably not going to, you shouldn't tell. I know, and I agree with that, but if you get caught, you should admit it. But and I'm and I mean, I'm on the other end of you know, I go through a nigga's phone and I don't find anything, and I always feel like stupid because they delete everything. They're not exactly. Yeah, I don't

every guy cheats. You think every guy. I don't think every guy. I don't necessarily. I don't want to put that on all guys. You know, the particular ones that I have dated have cheated. I don't want to say, oh, I haven't. I haven't dated every man uh in the world, so I can't say everything. But I feel like at that certain age then they started to slow down a little bit. But I feel like right now, in our little time, he's popping. I feel like, yeah, he's popping,

and he got a good Instagram. And you know, I honestly believe my last boyfriend and cheat on me and I don't. My son's father he told me that he cheated on me. I called him talking to a girl, but I never really called him. I don't think he ever cheated on me either, but I think he told me that just got me tight. I think because he took it back. He took it back. He um, he told me that he lied to me about it, that he never cheated on me. He was just trying to

you know, stupid. Well for all the asshole ship that I was doing, that everybody knew about. I've used that before. But yeah, but I mean I've been cheated on, Like my hex fiance cheated on me. One of my best friends like, what did you do to her? Right now? She was just like, hey, do you know something? You you know, there's a difference between girls who are your friends and girls who are trying to be you, you

know what I mean. So she wasn't your friend now she looked at my friend, but you didn't realize that at first. No, and I stood friends with her after she sucked my man? How can you stay friends with somebody who sucked your men? Because we were kids? We were kids. But um, I ended up calling her wife anyway because she stole two thousand dollars from me. Okay, well think about boss two thousand color. She was stealing

your dick. Yeah exactly. I know everybody, but please, everybody and their mother just teld me to stop hanging out with this girl. And I'll always be like, oh, but she's my best friend. I got from But I got cut cheating once and I told because I got cut, you know, I was dating this guy and I told him that I was going out of town. I said I was going to be listen. It was like, I was like, I'm going to Spain. I don't know why. It probably was if I could tell you, let me

see how long goo is? It? Maybe like ten years ago? And I was like, I'm going to Spain. I'll be back in a few days. And I guess it didn't sit right with him, and he showed up in my house. We had another guy over there. But I'm gonna tell you. What happened was that we had broken up, and so while we were broken up, I started talking to somebody else and then he was like, oh, I'm gonna come visit you. Him gonna come to New York. I said, okay. He brought his flight and then we got back together.

But I felt bad because the other guy had already brought his fight and was coming out and everything. So I told him I got back with my boyfriend, and I was like, you know, so you could still come with, like go hang out and stuff, but I can't. You know, I got back with my ex, and so I just had to pretend I wasn't gonna be there. So my boyfriend came and I just let him in the house.

I introduced them to each other. I wasn't doing what you introduced them to each other, and it was like leave him outside, and then I was like, I was like, I'm sorry, I lied, But when we broke up, I told him he could come and he got his flight and we never did anything, but you know, and what happened he left, he left you or he he just laughed. We still stayed together for a little while after that.

He was cheating anyway, So that's why we broke up, and I didn't really we got back together with still I don't even know why I got back together. I didn't really care. That's why I see. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't ever have it that bad. I feel like I was good in relationships, but my issue was people would send me messages or you know, texts and certain things, and I'm just a nice person, so sometimes I don't

realize that somebody's flirting with me. So a person at the time I was dating, like picked up but he knew my password and he was just like knew it. No, he knew it because I would put it in I would like when we were bad or something like that

and just typing in so um. So he was just like, well, I want to see your phone, and like he just took it, and I was like, I got so nervous because I know, I was like, I'm not doing anything wrong, but these messages, yeah, they may seem incriminating, and then he's gonna be like, why is this person textually, why is this person, What is this? Why a texting at this time? So you don't have it set up on

my um my eye cloud. So then when he had the phone, I went to my eye cloud and I locked the phone, and he was, so, you're just gonna lock your phone. We had a whole big argument over it. He was smart for doing that. I went right to my computer, like I locked myself in the media digital. Come back to the room and he was like, open the door. I'm gonna give me back my phone. I was like not letting him out of been like, let me see your phone. Yeah, you know you wasn't going

to get that damn phone. But now I look so guilty. He eventually gave me back to me, But now I look so guilty. I just did not want him to get hurt reading what people were saying to me, even though I wasn't responding. I just didn't want him to be like, oh, you're cheating, you're talking to this person, and it was like people he knew too, So when you're gonna let me pan that pussy? Yeah and terms

but yeah. So it's like I just didn't want any issues, and I was like, I'd rather I'd rather just take what he thinks rather than him seeing this. It's hard to set the tone, like when you're reading something a post that when you're the person in the conversation, it's always gonna seem like what like if you send the smiley face like he would get me like, why are you sending a smile because I'm happy, could be happy. I can't be happy, So I just didn't. I was like,

I don't want any problems. I know you should read somebody's phone or let them read your phone. I mean, like you said, if my boyfriend was like, let me see your phone, I'd be like, I don't even winker than me. So I really have no show what nobody to ask. Every time every time I go through Nigga's phone, I always get disappointed. Like you said, they'd be on point to delete stuff quick. And I learned that anything on my phone, I don't delete anything from three years ago.

I do with text messages. I just feel like it's just so incriminating conversations do you talk about with friends? I'm like, I just want to make sure let's clean this up. How to do that? You know, because I've seen him and I like I snatched his phone or whatever. Whenever. He was like, you only got three messages, That's what I'm saying. So I'm like, I have this motherfucking thing. He flipped. Now I'm gonna start deleting my messages, you know,

And I don't. I just always think, like, god forbid, I'm in a restaurant or something happens and up, you know, my phone automatically locks, but god forbid, I put it down for like a minute and someone takes it and something like I don't want. I don't want what I'm saying, what we talk about Loria talking about Angela. But I would say with our group chats, like where we do a kind of sat I delete those. Yeah, I mean

I guaranteed the group chat. Yeah. Groups they have the craziest group chat kind of my group chats, those are the first thing to go. I'm like, oh my god, you have to leave, because I'm like, if people see the people that I have like three different ones and some are like my regular friends and others or celebrities, I'm like, if people know the ship that we talk about, oh my god. Like I was like, let me, let me delete this and I'll go back to make sure

I did. I was like because we shouldn't even be talking about anyway. Green shot Queen, like, I have so many screenshots, I'll go right, ahad the girl, look at this here, screenshot every everything. It's funny though, you know, but I don't never think it's funny. But it might seem malicious to somebody else. It is it is to someone else, not to us. It's funny because they may not get your humor. People know me. It's like a powerful like you know, sweet girl, but then we may

get Yeah, we make them. You make them jokes in the you know those jokes fly on. Do you have a name for your vagina? Let's start with you know, don't start with me. Let's go around. It definitely has any more gorgeous? Yeah, well it's about regular or is it like no regular gorgeous? Noteous gorgeous. If you can name your pussy, what would it be? Baldy? That sounds like a dude. Well, it's guy's name. Yummyyum. Okay, so

sounds like a pet. You know what when I like sing when I do in my wraps, I always referred to instead of saying pussy, I like to say yummy. So that's what you call your said, I call it Karen. What's your vagina's name? This is difficult. I never about this though, because I you could grand if it's just just like right now after top of you, What would you let me think of a name for her? Saying? Can I call a kiki? Oa? Like? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah,

like good, like a good laugh a good kiki? Yeah like that name, that's a good Let's don't have a little kiki. Yeah you want some kikake? Little kiki? What about yours? And her name is Memai? Yeah, MAMAI why did you give it that name? Made it up? But Sue switched. It means little sister in Chinese. Ye, my little sister. Sounds crazy, though, come fuck my little thoughts. Hey, I just need that up. Not like that was freestyle?

Was that was good? I like the other name because I swear she had a different name like meymade better. I like a little sister better that Mema. That's actually not bad. Okay, So there you go. I was gonna take that home. I think she is somebody's a child. Now let's talk about dating, okay, because obviously all of us are in the industry, and I'm sure all of us have dated guys in the industry. Now, people always ask me, do you date ordinary guys but you date

a regular guy? What do you think it's better a guy and industry are a regular guy and for what reason? M So, I dated the regular guy and he just he just didn't like get it. So I kind of want somebody who's around the industry. He doesn't necessarily to be a music It can be maybe in sports, some type of entertaining, but just something around the business where he knows the life that I'm gonna live and well, you know, obviously here he has to have a career, yeah,

and and and be good from there. But it's it's hard, you know. I tried to dibble and dabble a little bit everywhere. Like you date the main person, I'm like, Okay, that didn't work. You date the side person, Like, okay, that didn't work. You date the regular dude, I'm like, that didn't work. So now I'm in a place like I'm talking to three different guys who are in their

different stages. So I'm like, okay, maybe it's like a documentary, like who think, because they're all in three different stages. So I'm like, okay, we will figure out what they do. You let them know, Like you know, I'm dating at the guys I'm dating, No, well, we're talking like it's not even anything, it's not anything serious, but they look at it like, Okay, I tried to him, we flair is cute, but you're like, you know, you're not the only person I'm talking. Well, I doubt I'm the only

person they're talking to you. Like I see their Instagram. I see the hearts, the eyes, the emojis. Because I listen, I ain't know, listen listen this time. This time it's like super glowed up. They're fine as fuck, Like they're fine as I know. Women are in them d M. But are they putting the hard eyes on any people? That's what I'm saying. So you can't judge that because no, I'm not. I'm not judging, and I'm just saying I

know they have they have options, Yeah, they have fans. Yeah, if you date a guy right and some girls are leaving hard eyes, then what if y'all are like, Okay, we're serious. Now. I used to get frustrated by it, but then now I just I don't even like I just stopped caring. I just didn't care anymore. I think

it depends on who the guy is. Like if it's just the regular guy and he has the same girl leaving him hard eyes, and there's there's a but if you're dating, if you're dating somebody in entertainment, you know, we all get that, you know, there there's somebody back getting to me in my comments every single day. When you're dating somebody and entertainment, it's the same thing for them,

you know. And when I hate when people leave those comments like call me back the phone exactly like you don't know me, Like I didn't call It's not even that the like hey big head, Oh you look cute, big head, Like I don't like yeah, like hit me back, I don't know you, Like oh I remember that night. I'm like, what are you talking about? I go off on them, like stop acting like like, don't be familiar, Like,

don't be familiar. I will erase the comedy like you eraised my coming, Like yeah, because you're being familiar for no reason. Don't take it seriously. Yeah, I'm like, don't tell people what I was doing when I'm like, oh, I remember when you took this pickup? How do you know? I don't want to act like I took it today, keep it moving. I don't yeh. Karen doesn't play around with her Instagram. That job though, yeah, like I take it. I take it serious because I make so much money

off of it. So now when I started, I used to post anything, but now it's just like, because I know so many people looking in look for me for inspiration and certain things, I don't. I don't post as much anymore, like I just like. She was like, Carol, if you don't stop posting the damn ship on the snapchat.

She's like, it ain't something because she was. But you know it got you in trouble though, because she snapchats everything, so that when she stopped snapchatting, she's like, somebody called her and they started personal house, like you must be doing something you're not snapchat. I'm like, cause you're always on snapchat. And I had to take a regular day on vacation without her. She's like, no, it's gonna hit this.

I was like, come on, Carol, let's take a picture because they don't believe that I am where I am. She was like, and I dat somebody that you gotta prove ship too. I don't want to prove that. I am absolutely, But when you say share so much on show, soal and then you get quiet all of a sudden, That's what happened when she was just like she got quiet for a good two hours. So he's like, hold up, she got on with her Instagram or so mind you it was in the middle. It was like in the

middle of the day. So he's like, somebody must have took her shopping, she must say, And it was like a C three weekend. All the people were see it Wars, so they was just probably like, oh, she's just out in Atlanta trying to be lit. Yeah, that's what they thought. But I was like, listen, I'm sitting here having a

heart to heart with my friend. You know what I mean, Well, you didn't take I got on the phone and I was like, hey, she's really He was like, we hung up, just hung up, Like she's not lying, She's really with me. Sorry she's not on snapchat. Yeah. I can't deal with that anymore. I learned from my friends, you guys that you know, I got to kind of bring it down a little bit, and then you can like I'm big on scheduling certain things out, like I'll put the moment up.

It may not be at that exact time, but then just go from there so you still have your piece. You still can have your conversation and everything else, like I'll put stuff after I leave somewhere because you don't want anybody to come there, and yeah, okay, I'm about to put all up, or like I was there too, Hey, I always wanted to meet you. That's annoying. It's a nice moment. People are trying to join your table. Hey, do you like guys who are aggressive? Um, it's what

type of dating you like. Do you like a guy to really be very forward and aggressive, like like you gotta let me take you out, like send you things or I mean that'll be that'll be nice. I can't even put say I like a certain type because the type something like and have been wrong. So it's like now now if it's just got to be open to whatever. Yeah, so what's coming. But now the few like guys now are kind of like laid back. I like that a bit. Um and I like a lot of attention, okay, and

that's important. I think as women we all like a lot of especially when but it's like it's it's bad though, because you know, I get it. Social media feeds the ego and you, oh my god, I love you. I'm like thanks. Then I get on the phone and you talk to your friends and oh my god, I love you. Like things now then it's like where's the guy. I'm like, um, what are you doing? And you know, I start having long conversations everything else, and it's like I don't get

the attention that I wanted. I'm gonna call you back. I'm like, whoa, I didn't even finish my seventh story. Yeah, he was like, he was like yeah, I can, um let me, let me just call you back, because it was just like I can't give you this attention. I'm like I need it. Do you like the guy that

you have? A guy that checks you, like they'll check you when you're wrong, and you're like a guy that is sorry, Like no, I want I want to be checked because because it's just like I already feel like I'm never wrong, so it's okay, So it's okay to be like, no, Karen, I had this conversation with somebody before I came here, like because I got mad at something and he was like, no, I'm not. I was like, yeah, you should just apologize and we'll get over. He's like, no,

I'm not apologizing because I didn't do ship to you. See. Oh yes, it's always my thought that guys do need to apologize, even if it's not their fault. Yeah, I just I was. But we will run all over you. Yeah, yeah we did. Know. I mean I like it. I like them wrong and aggressive. I need to be checked. If not, I'm gonna clown you. I'm gonna I need to be checked. I need discipline. I need a lot of disciplines. I do feel like a guy should be a little bit aggressive the man, you know what I mean.

If I'm wrong, yeah, and not it. But if you're wrong, you can't still be trying to act like Yeah, I get that a lot. It's like, back up, you're wrong, that's there you go. So I feel like, as a man, you gotta be a manly man. I'm not gonna admit that I'm wrong, and that's how I feel like they are. You know, an apology to me, I'm so important. You know, Like when you can admit that when you're wrong, I

think it's it's very noble, you know what I mean. Yeah, Now, are there certain times when it's okay for a guy to say be really like, if you go with your man to the strip club, Oh god, is it okay for him to like get lap dances, to go in the champagne room, to get massiges and things like that. No, I think it should be a certain level of respect. Now if we're they're together or whatever. Yeah, y're they're together. Yeah,

they're together. So I was like, let's do it together. Thing, I'm here, don't act like I'm not here, you know what I mean. I understand you want to have your fund and this is a strip club and bitches a naked, but like, damn, I'm here and I'm getting naked later. So you here, you know what I mean? Like, don't sit here and gets and you're sitting next to him, he like, you know, slaps ascid. For me, it's a turnal to be with a guy that likes to be in the shop clothes. I don't like guys in strip

club either. You're a right, that's but what if you're there, but you're there with him? If I'm there with him, like I'm I'm the bouddest bits. None of these girls are working with me. To you, that's what it should be, so we should be able to be there and coexist. And he's not touching anybody, but don't but you don't want to. I don't like my man to throw money now, but then doesn't it feel weird to because you and

my bank account. I think he should give it to you to throw or even that, Yeah, I tell the money, Yeah, even that, I'm having that. I went to the strip club once with a boyfriend and he went and got the money. He just kind of sat back like I got a lap dance. That's how It's just like he wanted me to stripper. You get all of me like that, you got ticks and bed bugs. This was my I wasn a stripper when I was eighteen years old and I was in a rock strip club. Like I couldn't

do floor work, I was wearing gowns. It was many years ago. But did you like, I'm not a stripper, but I respect but there were some business and bugs women that are strippers. I don't look at them like that. Yeah, no, I don't. I know women not a stripper, Sue and God bless them, and I got a lot of love for them, but I still don't want their slutty bodies on me. Atlanta is different because they're completely naked, and that's where I live in Atlanta, that they're completely naked

and I don't want anybody's pussy on me. I didn't get that far. I was in Puerto Rico. I didn't get that that word and one of my friends got on stage let this stupid sucker, like this girl was like full on ready to kiss me, and the whole night I had to like back my I was like, what are you doing? She was ready to like she was like she was ready to go home with me. I'm like she were going. I was like, we're going home, sweetie.

I don't know where you're did that tearing your man on them at this At this point, he didn't have no he better not show any emotion anything, just like it was cool. We did the money thing. It was like a light night, you say. She just looked like she was like because we're the only really, we're the only ones really in there giving up some bread. So she looked like, oh, I'm about to have this after party, Like no, we're not. We're about to go to this

room and have this at the party. You're going home. Yeah, you're going home. I feel like the girls start to like the girls more than I know what. I feel like the girls do that because they think it makes the guy spend money. Okay, I feel I feel like it's very strategic, Like if you go to this gyp club with guys. I feel like the girls were trying to appeal to the girls because they want you to call them all over. He didn't get the dude to spend money, That's what I thought, And they know the

guy is gonna set fantasy or something. I like to go to the strip club and throw money, you know, like with my home girls, like we'll get her own one. You know what. Guys, I got some ones that throw the money, but I don't want to. I don't like. I think that's real throwback Thursday to have a girl dancing on you. Like I'm not a guy in a strip club with sweatpants on, you know what I mean? Like I'm a girl. I don't like when people buying

me lap dances. And I remember when I had I was in the still cubing, I had on shorts and this girl was like, I didn't I was trying to be polite. I didn't want it. But she was on my leg and I swear I felt like her stubble from her vagiant. That's how awkward. If I liked, I like, did um. I know it's kind of it's kind of terrible in the footpad. But I went to the strip club with its wrapping all his friends and it was like we're in d C. And you know how they

pull out the money. He gave me a whole on your money to throw, and I was like, putting your bag, yeah, I would. I bought a channel bag though it was so it was just like it was the closest six grand and I was like my friend was with me, and I just kept passing it back to her like I would throw like six dollars like when he listen, when he would make it rain, then I would like throw my money because it would getting well his money that he gave me. It was like a little he was.

He was like, he's like, yeah, I have fun character up through what I'm like, I'm I'm gonna have tomorrow. I always do that. If you give me money, a little is going in the purse and a little a lot went into the first I've never I didn't, but listen, I didn't. I didn't realize how much it was till I got home and I was like, oh, I got a new bag and ones. It was like he had like twenties, like he was just doing he was just doing a lot of Yeah, that's not he gave it

to me. That's my money for the girls who are working. I'm sorry here this. You didn't say exactly what it was from that Stephanie has sympathy. Hey, and let me tell you something I did say. It was I did say it's a full pie that technically you're not supposed to do that. I know a bunch of girls strip club, a girl with the Alma Louisa and with a guy who's throwing a lot of money. No, that she's putting some of that money. What makes her more able to

get this money than me? Because she's working. She's am I I gotta throw my arm out like it's like, yeah, you gotta have a straight etiquette. But that was the only time I was just like, I'm not. I was just I was like, I'm not throwing all this money right now. I just thought it was ridiculous. I was like, I'll do a little bit. And I didn't realize like that night when I went home, I kind of felt like I was like, oh, this money I would I supposed.

I was like, I'm supposed to throw this. I was like, no, I'm getting the bag tomorrow where it says if a guy is cheap with you, but then we'll take you to the strip club, Like, I don't matter. That's stupid. The first guy that ever gave me money to throw, like, you better put some of that in your bag. But you're just gonna give it all of them. So that's what made me think for the rest of the time, I'm like, oh so some of this is mine. Oh no, sometimes that give you the money, like, go get this.

I'm not gonna lie. So I've never ken't money myself, but I've given money to my friends. Yeah, Like what I will do is I'll tell my friend here is keep this. You do what you want with it. When people give me money to throw, and what did that mean? Do what you want with it? Put that right your back, put it right into your bank. I don't think it's stealing.

You gave it to me. Stealing would be me going in your pocket and no. Yeah, but if the nigger casting the money and there stealing, you're picking up off the floor that I don't do that if a dollar even touches me. I'm like when when it gets when it gets packed up seeing people go down like that, honestly, really like I've seen like guys been down and like picking back and I was just like, you can't you

hit the ground. But once it leaves your hand, I was like, once it leaves your hand, you're not allowed to do that. Like, don't don't have them give you a double dance and double dip in the dollars maybe wet and ship and they'd be trying to throw him like I'm not even falling, right. I saw a lot of I saw a lot of that in honest I was just I was seeing that, honest to him and

Philly and and um, what's the one in d C Stadium. Yeah, I've seen him on doing that a lot of that to picking up the money of the stadium was I put that in that in that back statis I love that strip club. I've never been. It's always a fight there though, I always a fight. It's always a fight. It's always a fight. That's the one where Drake was. I think that's the one d had the issue right and sure is what's the stake? And he walked back in, like, have you ever stripped at home for your man? Put

out some music and did a little routine. You know, I got a little awkward dance. I think it's that's how I feel. I feel like it's awkward. I don't want to do that, but I'll do the whole sit down. You know, I can make my ask happen. You know this is goes back to the conversation. You guys will have them before. It's just like certain things you make, but you gotta it's it's a personal thing. You do it for that person. It's like you sit on them.

You can give him a nice little lap dance. I'm a scoopio baby when I do got to like, I'm like notorious. When I drink, I want to dance on my man. I'll say I'll put them on a bad and I want to start stupid. I don't see. I know I must look so dumb. I was drunk, like I'll bought my hand, but it's firing sexy. Tell me and you're the only ones like I'm getting nasty, don't get it twisted. What's nasty? Ship that you do. I mean, like like tell me and they let's we really think

this is nasty. Spit like everywhere anywhere in the mouth and yeah, you're spitting this out. I will I like when I like, I love him spit in your mouth. Yeah, I let him spit in my mouth. Um anything. I love to play with balls. That's like one of my favorite I love to stick my finger up guy's ass. I love all of it, and like, I mean, I want to stick you everything. You know what when it's like, um, my thing is head, when you're giving head and you

can stick your finger out there, I'm not easy. Listen, if I could stick three fingers, I would never fucking touch this motherfucker and life like again, if I'd be like, oh, the longest nails, Yeah, I was gonna see that in our last interview. I was gonna see that when it's like that's where the spit comes in, you know what I mean, because it's just like yeah, because you know what I'm gonna say this, I put fingers in guy's

ass before I even stop wearing nails because of that. Yeah, but this is but I think who really likes it? Your nails could be as long as they don't they don't and then gotta not to do it gently. It's not like it up it still seems like the nail is gonna like you're giving him a colonic. It doesn't like. First of all, this as the long as my nails has ever been. But like usually like you just eat it on up there, it's fine. Does you have to

shower first? Of course? Anything? First of all, I don't like dirty guys, Like if you're not, you dirty just because you don't like sweaty. But you left the club, and I just told you I'm nasty, so you have to be clean, Like I'm going to use my mouth and you have to. But what if you all left the club your junk, and you get back and you want to just get right First of all, we left the club, you have to get in the shower because

I'm getting in the show. To me, that's just nasty. Me. I can't even get in my bed when I'm outside the hall. But what if y'all really turned on you making out in the elevator, then we'll go to the bathroom. Yeah, maybe even if we don't turn the water on my bad dog, because I don't want to lick sweaty balls or nasty. I don't mind licking sweaty balls. I like. I like. I'm the type of girl that I will have a boyfriend who goes and plays basketble ball and suck.

All Right, so buddy can't get into bed, We're gonna do it in the bathroom. I'm gonna be on my knees. He's gonna be standing. I don't think, no, I do not. I've never done that in my life. What a dental damn? I don't know what a dental damn. Yeah, that's that kind of for your mouth that you like use the reverend stretch it out. Yeah, it's heaving tex. It's latex.

It's like a piece of late tex. It's like a it's like a rectangular shape and you stretch it out, you put it on that is supposed to use it. Yet giving head was so confused with getting had okay, getting face, But um I tried. We tried to me and myself's father like we had like they gave us like this kid at the doctor and we were like, oh, look at dents. Damn, let's try it. It's terrible. It's the worst experience ever. Yeah, I want to fail the whole. Yeah, no,

I want you to suck me. Sex is really important, and it is I think so. I mean some guys just really you gotta train certain guys. We always talk about this, you know, because some guys are starting that great at it. Obviously they think they are. That's the crazy thing. Like, don't be like sucking on it and being all rough with it like a dog with raw me. You gotta be gentle. I mean, I like the rough ship. You like it. I like teeth on my clip. I'm

not the whole time. You know, you gotta like a variety. I don't like to roth like. I mean, I get what you're saying, like here or whatever here. I like them to make it to sound like I like it all as long as you're down there, but I like the effort. Stay down there now, But you have a three sing with one of your friends. That doesn't have to be a stranger. You know, I'm not into girls. I don't like to, but I'm saying, if I had to pick, it would definitely be with a stranger. Because

you're my friend. I don't want to have sucks with you. That's gross. Mine would be a strange year two but I had one of my friends say that they wanted to have a three with me and my my ax that I was, how does that make you feel? First of all, I stopped talking to that bitch because now I think you're looking at my man? She was looking? Was you looking at me? Both? That's what I'm saying, like, and it just made me and like she said it in a joking way, but I wasn't joking with this

bit like I still like still to this day. She texted me the other day and I'm like, why is this bitch texting me like you want to suck me and my man to pick three? Similton man with a stranger? Um? I do I do a stranger because it's just like I won't ever have to see you again, we won't meet again, and it's just like a one and done. Nobody ever has to know. Yeah, are you ever concerned about dating somebody and then them telling other people, like you know before it gets out? Or like can you

have a one night stand? You think? I? Honestly, Um, I haven't like years. It's hard because I have I feel like I can you know, I watched me and Mary Jane, she calls them her cutty buddy, I think. So it's like it's like I probably I probably can, but I just I just I just haven't. Right. It's a little different now when people know who you are, Like if I have this one night staying, I don't who this guy is, who he knows? Yeah, men are like pillow talkers me just to the extreme. It's just

tell everything. If a guy asked you how many guys have you been with? What do you answer? Why? Like you like you? Whoever was before me doesn't matter now, you know what I mean. So it's just like I've never been to a point where somebody has asked me that I didn't have a lot of sexual partners. But it's like, you're not gonna ask me that regardless. Do you care to tell you? If you I'm not going to ask him that, But what do you want to

tell you? If he's girls that you know, yeah, like in my super close circle, but just like people that you might run into or that you know or I don't. I don't. I don't care because I know this industry is small. So it's just like, but you wouldn't rather he tell you than you hear about it somewhere else.

I mean no, honestly, honestly, no, I don't. I don't want to have the whole long conversations like oh I slept, I stupted her, I sup with her, and there are gonna be the girls like, oh, yeah, you know this recently happened to a friend of mine and it girls like yeah, you know, um, you know, me and her don't get along because we dated the same guy. She was like, bitch, you dated him five years ago. The

funk are you talking about? So it's like those moments where she was like, I don't want him to tell me about a bit she dated five years ago. I don't care. But she's walking around like, oh yeah, you know me and him dated, Now she's dating her. It's just like I don't I honestly don't care who. But it's turning you off. If a guy has been with a lot of girls, I'm not gonna know because if I'm saying like you kept running into people that you know, and I'm like, damn, did you did you just fuck

everybody on the Instagram? Yeah it Twitter. That might that might get a little that might get a little annoying for me. It's not a turn off if a guy has been with a lot of girls. It's the girls died turned me off, you know what I mean? Like if if I'm dating, yeah, exactly, if I'm dating a guy and I find out he's dating X y Z girl and I think that she's basic, it makes me look at him a different exactly, how angel like that? That that is I agree with you, agree with you

on that. It's I don't deserve, not even not even not even that. It's like even if you're in a relationship. I recently had this, if you're in a relationship and they decided to cheat, and it's like the person you cheat with, like the person he was cheating with was excited to be in my truck like, yeah, I got

some riding. Karen's chugging Like bitch, really, I'm like, this is what we're doing, Like, this is what we're doing, Like this is this is what it is now, this is what excites you like riding and so mad at him, like it's like why would you why would you allow her to think she is on the same platform as me? That's just like what are you doing? But again, you know, guys usually don't glow up when they she you know, they find somebody who they don't care. They find somebody

super basic. The bullshit that they do with you, they know they can't get away with. They can get away with somebody else and give them that facade. So it's like, let me get this person with the basic amount of whatever it is, and they'll just tolerate and deal with it, and I can get away with the ship because I look at somebody that somebody dated and be like, Okay,

you don't know what this girl. You look at her Twitter and you look at her Instagram and you're like, that's how why Yeah, you'd be like, maybe I'm too good for you. It only changes my whole mind, Like I don't care who you are, how how great you seem. If I find out that you were with this week basic bitch, I'm it's like, like, but do they think that everybody besides this is weekend basic? I mean no, I don't. I don't y kind of because when you

look at it, it's like you're downgrading. I don't care, no, But but sometimes I go, Okay, you know what, I understand. You have to upgrade to me understand what happened. These are the situations you had before. I was like you had these little advertises that you need a main meal. It's okay, baby, it's okay. I think that's so used to dealing with those wack ass bitches that they don't know how to, you know, handle theirselves when they're dealing

with somebody that's up here. And then I, you know, with my axes, I see, you know, their girls are always like really a downgrade for you know, compared to me. But then it's like, you know, it's all right, I get it. It's kind of hard to upgrade, you know, it's kind of hard. It's like after you have a ten. It's just like when you go where I got to go back to the six or seven. Yeah, I'll be

understanding my access. But when I'm first dating a guy, like if I find out that you were with this bitch who can't read and write and write I went through that too, Like I don't care how good you look. If you don't know hip hop and you can't read it right, you're not really fucking with me. Oh my god, the guy and had an orgasm at the same time as him. Yeah, I haven't had that. It's amazing. I I usually come before the guys. I'm not I haven't.

At the same time, you haven't that girl, Kicky girl, Kiki. What's the best sext you ever had? Because I'm sure in your head you have something somebody that you were in love with or was it just no? It was definitely was definitely like just a physical yea to me, I like like one night stands gonna work with me because I put so much. Yeah, I put so much emotions and everything else into it, and it's just like the names and the scratch and didn't want to lay

down make breakfast afterwards. So it's like, it's like real, I think probably just like my last relationship. I'm not even gonna lie. It was incredible, So it was good. You missed that. Um yeah to a certain extent. But I know I'm gonna be good. I'm not Yeah, I'm like, I know I'm good. I know I'm gonna be good when when when Ki touchdown, I know I'm gonna be good. So I'm not like, I'm like, this was cool. I remember what this was. It's about glowing up baby, and

I know that's what that was. The important to learn a lot though from any guy that you did, you feel like you learn anything from him in the bedroom. I definitely, I definitely did, cause I was timid with certain things and it's like, no, you don't try like this, do it like this dude like he like turned into a fucking professor out of nowhere. I'm like, yeah, He's like like tell you what to do. So I'm like, thank you, this knowledge was appreciated. You know, I didn't

work here. You know you got that special check and he's gonna be pissed that he can't Stefanie. Nobody else likes to get there. Pussy's bitten, Yeah yeah, not or something. No, I'm telling you. I teach these things how to eat pussy the man like a class of these guys. But it does all the basic bitch is a good But you're getting paid for that's not your business, not guys that you know, like one on one, a thousand dollars.

You know, I'm going to give a thirty minute tutorial on what exactly do to please and stimulate your woman because I feel like you can you can. Guys will pay a thousands, yes, but yeah, Middle American guys who don't know where you don't trying to figure out a way to make something. You're smart, Yeah, listen. It's like guys who don't know who are like their forties and fifties, don't even really know what to do anymore. Bring her in. That's done, Karen a k a Zola. All right, so

we're gonna end it with this. If you could give guys a tip on how to do something better in the bedroom, okay, what would that tip be? Real? I think you have to pay attention to the pussy. That's about one thing now, because some people don't. Some people are busy paying attention to whatever they have going on. The weather it is. That means you're doing something right. If it's not getting so wet and juicy, you're not doing anything right. And that's like I really felt like that.

I feel like you gotta take your time sometimes, you know, and some guys are just so anxious. Yeah, some guys do want to get right to it to it, yeah, and they don't do the four play four play is so important. I feel like has died down a little, But to me, that's that's important. I like the kissing, the taking off the clothes and everything that, like, it just feels good with and not just like okay, let's just get straight to business. Anybody anymore. Yeah, I like

candles and everything else that comes with it. No guy that does candles and all that, though, But I do like the bath lights, the lights low, I still like I still, I still, I still love doing that. What about music? Do you guys use music? I don't everybody to do that either. I definitely put the music age though. A little Future in the back car is so rash, right, I can't have to trap music on when I'm having sex. But that's why she's slopping her ass. When you stop,

you don't want to down sex you over there? Yeah? Yeah, Future which sex were low and nice bits, but that is gonna go to free colds and then what are you gonna do? I mean, that's what you got leave on it out right, Yeah, that's what he's basically giving you a tutorial on sex future perfectly perfect, perfect for playing music. I don't know about that. I mean, if you set the playlists up right, Yeah, I started off over sex. I'm stopping her ass, so this is a

whole different kind. He's getting money thrown on her, that's true. That, yeah, all right, I don't know about few which a playlist go to Karen first? She got like. I put D'Angelo Radio on, so it's like D'Angelo. It's like um, Stevie Wonder, Miguel you know, like vibes, Marvin Gaye, Like that's what I'm listenings. But DeAngelo Radio has everything, and then a Wool Tank song will come on, so you like, you go from you go from Stevie Wonder to oh Baby,

I like it raw It's nice, but that kind of works. No, I'm telling you ded'angelo Radio on Pandora. It's vibes. It's old vibes. It it's like Raphael Sack then D'Angelo. I know, I think their songs are better. Like I'm telling you that, it's like vibes. I don't feel like guys don't make love like that. They I got made love to that. Maybe I should switch to older songs because I like the weekend Future Agel Radio. You're gonna have a bunch

of ship. You know, it's dope. I'm gonna because I'm gonna give it a whole three minutes and thirty seconds the next time and see if you listen to it, Like do you listen to Angelo? Karen had sex? Oh? Yeah, I said, supplies. I like like you know, like ratchet are like not matching Body and Clyde like type songs. Not. I mean, like I hear all that ratchet ship in the clubs, like when I'm hosting and ship, I don't. I don't. None of that ship goes on once in

a while, future will come on. I mean, not only I go to the club. So I don't go to the club just to hang out, you know. I go to the clubs and meet people, you know whatever. But anyway, you know, when I'm home, I'm listening to the nineties, like nineties, eighties, seventies. I wouldn't have sex that bitch better have my money, all right, All right, Well, Stephanie, if you could give everybody a tip out there the ladies,

what would you wan for sex for the ladies? You know, stay really clean, you know, take a bath, make sure to take you back clean the inside, you know, really learn how to clean yourself. Make sure you know there should be no odors, like you know what I mean, keep it real clean and wet, and you know, no gear, maybe a little strip at the top. Guys love that. Guys,

pussy's clean. It's really really clean. Clean mouth to clean mouth because even when you're sucking dick and you swallowed or not, like, don't come up and breathe on him, you know, go rinse your mouth. Dare you that way? You wouldn't let a guy eat you out and then kiss him? Yeah, yeah, my pussy bomb. But ill I he just nodded in my mouth. That's gay to eat his own cous boiling. So you're gay because you eat you.

But my pooty is amazing. I mean when I mean, I think my kiss is an amazing No, but I think, you know, like even when I'm home regular, like I taste myself. I'm always smelling myself. Yeah, like I taste myself, you know, tat yourselfing like you never touched yourself. I tasted it. No, No, I mean if I'm kissing, I'm the only one here. I don't sit home and angela, you've tasted yourself. Not like sitting at home by myself. That's okay. I'm huppy. I don't feel like anny out

of that not. But I always taste myself like, um, like that's how I know where my hormones are, Like where's the balance looking? Like forget the guy in college, Yeah, it's me today uh, a little salty. Maybe I should eat some strawberries. I thought it was aine apples. All fruits make your pussy tastes good. I thought it was the only one that makes your pussy tastes weird. Is oranges? Orange just kind of make it gives you Citrus is kind of weird, al right, trust me, I know I've

tested it all right. What Karen said, well, thank you so much for coming, Thanks for having me. We're not you see you doing aterviews like this. I'm not at all. Sometimes it's needed, though, it's needed to have this guy. We have talked like this, like off te me tips. What's your tip? What's your tip? I don't really have I don't really have anything. I mean I did the tips for the guys before play. Bring it back. I'm

telling you, yeah, let me keep it clean. I don't think you're not supposed to clean your vagina with nothing. Though it has natural cleansers. No, no, douching is no good, douche is no good. But you still should squat and clean yourself the right way. Maybe someday I'll give us a h I'm just amazing. Karen claps her ass me. I want to see her. No, not like make it bound.

I could that I could do that, make it bounce, And I'm like, I'm excited that I can do that, but like I want to see I thought you could do like I make it. I like sit on him, make it bounce, feels really good, like he puts his hands there and it's it's it's phenomenal. That's the best one. They're eating. Well, Karen is single right now, single and ready to mingle. I'm joking, I'm not though, I think Kiki's ready. Girl would talk later. All right, Well that

was lift service and many laye. I'm Stephanie Santiago, I'm I'm Karen civil like you've never heard of before. Key's out.