Episode 267: Get the Jet! (Feat. Tiwa Savage)

usually sometimes missed some special moments. So being with him for the past four months m has just been overwhelmingly incredible. We had the blessing to see you perform and made in America. Yeah, it was all good, like four years or something like that? Was like three years, right, three years ago? Oh well I didn't. Time is flying. I feel like it was three years. I'm not a story. But remember when you went on stage, everybody ran over there and so we were learning too. We was like,

where are we going now? But truly amazing and I love your journey, just how you went from being in the background to being in the forefront. I feel like things like that making so much more grounded too when you finally do make it like having't started off how you did, right, I mean, um, yeah, there's this quote that I read recently and it's so true. It's like, um,

slow success build character, and fast success built ego. For me, definitely, this wasn't an overnight thing and it's definitely kept me very very humble because I've seen, like you said, being in the being in the background. Um, I've been able to study people in line life, and I've seen how fickle the industry is, how you could be so big right now and then to more. You can walk in the mall and nobody's trying to take a picture, and so me seeing that m has just really just in

my head. I don't take where I am for granted. Like I literally have to ground myself all the time because I know it can go like that. You were starts like George Michael j blives like crazy, How say, yeah, be honestly, how are they like? How are their egos? When you are behind the scenes with some of these people, does that get you like you know, I know sometimes we've had to work with people that might have big egos and we feel a little jaded and stuff like that.

So how has that been for you? Just seeing how they operate honestly, every single one, And I don't know, maybe I've just been really blessed. Every single person that I've worked with has been really really just humble. But for me, um, seeing the kind of pressure they were under or they are under. And then sometimes, like you know, we've seen fans who have just seen them for the first time and they don't care whether they're tired, they haven't slept, They just want that moment and they just

want to feel the energy. And and sometimes I'll just be looking at them and I'll be like, because I was on told Mary, and I'm like, I'll see how tired she is and and she just still has to put a smile on her face and just tea and I used to just wander like, Yo, people have no idea, like these are human beings, um that still go through Woke everybody else goes through. And you know, we as fans, we don't care at that moment. We just want to

picture and that's it. Yeah, that is crazy, because I've I've seen a lot of people even recently complaining about that because um, obviously you want people to give you your space right now, or like you got a mask on, you want to kind of distance, and I think either. I think it was Peter Thomas from the Real Housewives

of Atlanta. Well he formally he had ended up getting COVID and he said it was from like taking pictures with fans and stuff like that, and they were asking him like take the mask off, like I want you to be in a picture without the mask on. So I think this is a tough time even right now because it's like what are you supposed to do, but that your fans might go off on you, like, oh,

she's rude just seeing her. You know. Yeah, it's hard, especially for me and my son, Like sometimes like I have to like go out with him, Um, people just want to drab him, and like they just want to hug him. You know. I'm just like, yo, and he's still a kid. He's so excited. He's just like you know, walking up to someone or trying to hug someone, and I'm just like holding him back. Like I tried to find out balance where I tried to explain to them like yo, this is my child, Like I'm the one

that's in this. You know, he's he's he didn't ask for this, and I have to find a balance, you know, just to I have to protect him. It is hard, Like people don't understand that. So probably being famous is also having your personal life out there. And we've seen that happen of course with like a Mary J. Blige, and it's happened with you too. So how do you handle things like that with your relationship being on Front Street like that? Not because if you because of him?

Oh that was God, you guys got me. I was talking about this for years. Who um? That was? That was tough. That was That was really tough for me because it was something I was trying to manage and I didn't want out there. And when it got out there, I felt like I had to defend myself and I had to speak up for myself because a lot of people were also involved, like a lot of names were involved in it hurt because some of my family members

were obviously involved. And so when I spoke up and then I got backlash for speaking up, at that point, I was just like, you know what, fuck this, Like, I'm sorry if my math friend, I was just like, I'm just gonna be me because I was trying to be that good girl, take the right boxes, went to school, got my degree, um, got married, had a child, like literally everything that my society says a woman should do. I did all of that, and then when everything went left,

I was still blamed. Something in my head was just like, you know, I'm living for me now, Like I went and got a tattoo of my sleep I had, like the earliest I cut my hair. I was just I was just angry. I was just like, no, I'm gonna do me because you guys are gonna judge me regardless. So I'm um. And I think that's where I got

the term African bad girl, because I I own it. Yeah, I don't give a f I was doing me like yeah, no matter what, we always must remember that we come first, and we had to do what makes us happy before we try to pour into others or before we try to be what we think is the right way that we should be. You know, you gotta be yourself because you'll never be true. We gonna give you n yourself. I think it's hard as a woman, like being a

woman in the industry. I think I think it's true, like but it was a journey for me to get to what you're saying. And I'm still getting get into that um destination on that point. But it's hard because you don't want to be seen as like the diva when you demand certain things. You want to be liked as a woman. You want other women to like you. Let's be real. That's another huge thing um for women.

It's like sometimes you get attacked by attacked by women and you're like, yo, you should you should be on my side. You should understand why I'm going through so um. But now, like he said, I think having a child has just made me really like I'm like a lioness, Like I don't care as long as I'm good and my child is good. At this point, I really don't

care whether you like me or not. I feel like your life is like a movie already, Like this is that it doesn't even coming from Nigeria and going through what you went through getting band and everything early on and having to deal with that, working with all these mega stars and then writing your music for them, I

think that's already like an amazing story. Going through the relationship that you went through raising your son, and and you lived in so many different places, like the biggest start, you know, to the cover of Billboard magazine, Like journey to Me is so impressive, it's it's still so hard, Like it's still so hard because I feel like I still have to like I still like I still have to prove myself all the time, Like I still have

to work twice as hard. I still have to Like you know, um, I'm gonna be really honest with you guys, Like I'm forty, and that's really hard for a lot of people to to believe that I got signed at that age. It's just like yo, like how is that possible? But to me, that's just God telling me, Like my journey is bigger than music. It's bigger than just being

an African woman. My journey is like to show other women, like your life is not over because you're married, because you have kids, because you're a single mom, because you're not in your twenties or in your like in your teens, like you could start your dream when God says that's when you're supposed to start, right And for me, like my story has to be that to women, why do you have to stop modeling at twenty something if you still look good. It looks amazing. She is incredible, and

the and the clothes she's wearing. Only people in my tax bracket can afford it anyway, right, Like, and then a footballer, you're telling the footballer to retire at whatever age if you're still fifty five and you could still kick that ball from this post another one. Yeah. I feel like we we do, we do. We are so

unfair to ourselves. And I feel like God is literally using me um just to encourage and to inspire young women, like, don't beat yourself up if you're twenty six and you feel like you haven't really started your career, like baby girl, like, trust me, you have your whole life to do this. And to me, I don't really know what I wanted to be when I was in my twenties. I was really comfortable with my skin till I was in my face. So it's really important for me to teach that to

young women. And let's be clear, you're giving these twenty year olds a run for their money, because step it up. Listen, you said you at forty. I'm saying here, like, why she sitting here lying to us like this? Because you I would have never like you know I know you worked with people for a while, you but you know, and stuff like that. But I would have never guessed forty,

never in a million. But that's not and again that's not a bad thing like you're saying, because if it was a man starting at forty and music, nobody even questions it. Like some of the biggest artists are in the damn fifties and nobody is saying anything about that. It's just like, Okay, jay Z my favorite rapper, you know what I mean. But they're not really sitting down and looking at it like that. They judge women so much more by by little thing. Yeah, you have to

look a certain way. You have to like know, like I like listen, like I'm I want, I want to break all of those show was like beyond my music. I want. I want my music to obviously be the starting point, but my my whole career is bigger than music. It's it's definitely a journey. Now, you name the new album after your mom, Celia, and so what's your relationship with your mom? And then I want to also ask you with your parents, what was their relationship like with

each other and how did that influence you? Oh my god, when they see this, they're gonna kill me. I can still get time out, you know, my mom, she don't um my mom. I named it after my mom because when I wanted to go into music in my culture, it was just like, are you crazy like music? Who's gonna marry her? Like she has to either be a doctor or housewife or you know. Um, And my mom was like no, Like I'm going to support her. I'm gonna push her. She moved me to UM the UK.

Then she got me to go to Berkeley College of Music to study music. So and she got a lot of backlash from family members who said she was crazy for supporting to be a musician. So for me, like, I want to pay homage to her because without her,

obviously I wouldn't be right. She supported me against you know, everyone's who wish And because I see her, I see her resilience, I see how humble but hard working she is, and she just represents the modern day woman of color to me, like a woman who's not afraid to be submissive to her husband, but who still works her nine to five to put food on the table for her kids, and who is very spiritual but also very modern, Like she came with me when I got my piercings in

my tattoos. But she's up every morning at six am praying so for me, she just embodies everything. Um, and it's just I also wanted to celebrate women of color because I feel like, first of all, apart from being a woman, being a woman of color, we we go through so many challenges and I wanted this album to just to just celebrate, to celebrate us. I want us to get all flowers. Well, we're still alive. How did your dad tell about that? Yeah, your dad kind of

a game at the beginning. He was just like, so so because my dad was like no, no, no, no no. I had to study business and accounts as my first degree, and then I had to work as a trainee accountant. And then at one point I was just like, you know what, Dad, this is your certificate. I'm going to do what I want to do right. But now my dad, oh my goodness, everywhere we go he'll be like, that's to your savages. You were like, well, you don't get an album named after you because my back he's the

same energy what you wanted me to be. Let me be super because in your culture, I don't know if I'm a hundred percent right, but I have a couple of friends that are Nigerian. They told me, like they're not allowed to leave out of the house until they're married. So not like to go out obviously, but like, um, they can't move without being mary, Like they can't live on their own. Yeah, a lot, a lot of it, A lot of I mean apart apart from the fact

that it's not that safe as well. Um traditionally, Yeah, when you leave your parents house, you leave to your husband's house. You're not going to get a house with your friends or get roommates or nothing like that. So you're like untouchable at that point. You're no one wants to marry you if you're living with other people or it's something like that. That's like, I mean, it's changing.

I'm not gonna lie. It definitely is changing a lot because a lot of the Africans who lived in the the aspects are moving back, and a lot of the women are saying like, no, we we're not just going to go from my parents house to a man's house. A man we don't know. We want to live life, we want to experience them, we want to travel the world. We want to get our career first, because I'm not going to move into a guy's house and then I'm depending on him for bills and everything I want to build.

So a lot of women are speaking up, and it's it's really good to see, however, present for you to tell your parents that her marriage wasn't working out, because sometimes, first of all, I'm sorry it was something that you had to deal with like internally before you even was able to go to that. And then I know you probably knew they would be so protective over you and angry about it. So what was that like for you? I was, I was. I was embarrassed, so I think

I tried to cover up. We both tried. I even have a song on my album called Us and it's it's about how my marriage fell apart. I think my mom knew. UM. I think mothers always know, UM, and I wasn't prepared to tell them until everything just kind of like when I'm Lyne, and then I had to kind of like tell everyone that we've been struggling with this for a while. UM. It was it was hard for my for my brothers and my my father. UM, but my mom was I think she she kind of

already knew, so she she handled it a lot. That's how do guys approach you now? They don't Are you kidding me? Not even in the d m s or anything that's crazy. I mean in my d MS, I get stuff like, um, please my tuition bills? Duke, can you can you help me? I don't girl, you do got it. You said you wanted a man, right, You ain't saying he had to be rich school and make him whatever you want him to do. I don't know. I don't. I don't. They don't really, I don't know.

Or maybe I honestly, I'm so focused. I don't know. Maybe I just missed it a lot of the times. Yeah, well, it's the last time you've been on a date. I mean, I know the pandemic is going on one, but I haven't been on a proper date and he is m hm, damn, we're about to set this up. I know. I felt like show for Aron catch you guys really need to help me out. I'm being like my manager is always trying to hurt me up with some football or some

basketball players. We just talked about them, really, we wine, why did you just pick up your like yeah, a man, do you think cheat? Honestly? I think I agree. I would say nineties seven y'all are wrong. Let me ask you. Let me ask you guys this, do you honestly think? Do you think men? Because if I'm gonna go biblically and you know, back in the in the in the Bible days the multiple wives, concubines and stuff, do you think a man can really be with one woman? Yes,

A lot of the guys. A lot of times when I speak to men, they say to me, when they have sexual relations to other women, it's not their heart is not attached, it's just but their sperm is, and let me set you have have it. And but I feel like this, I feel like men though, don't get that way until they get older and have experienced a

lot of stuff. Like I feel like when they're ready to settle down is when they're just tired of having to spend all this money and run around and do this, and but they still do bullshit though, like they'll do some sleek sneak sit on the side though. I felt like even still, yeah, I I agree, I definitely raising the sun. I think that they grow up and learn that I don't think they're born with that instinct and people excise it like it's normal. That's more than women.

So you mean when okay, let me ask you this, performing right, being on tour and everything, like you don't have guys approach you then like yo, it's good. No, because honestly, I know it's gonna be a really hard to believe. But I after performance, I don't really go out to off the parties like not. I want the MTV and me UM A couple of years ago and there was an after party. I think Nikki was there and some other people, and I went straight to sleep, like I just, I don't, I don't, damn it. We

didn't celebrate. I literally, I don't know. I'm just I just I just wanted to be in my room. And I just want to have a lot of female friends, like girlfriends that you hang out with. No, if there's a guy that you find attractive, are you gonna approach him or now? I think now because i'm quote unquote your sava. And if I if I have a little help from certain you know, if I drink or something I don't want to say the other thing, they might arrest me. Nigeria, Oh my gosh, I have to see

what you're gonna say. I got it. You know, you guys know if I'm on that level, I think I would approach I'll say something, or I'll I'll try and be funny about it. Yeah, where's your type? Though? Um? He just I mean two eyes, two years, definitely a penis one. But yeah, he only has one ball long as I think is big. I'm like, but I don't know if I if we talk about this, yeah, I don't know if I really like really huge pisses. That's okay, I make you, I don't, right, I just want you

to know what you're doing. I think when it's too big, it's it's I don't want you to hit the laws. I don't want you to destroy them. Don't knock them down now, right? What about small? What if he's small? No no, that's no, no, no no no, you need to go like right, you need to fix that. There's so much amazing and every other way. Yeah, it's still enough. Okay.

What if you've got just right, but he needs to help getting through college and he's letting your m to sitution before, Oh my god, but no, for imagine that. Imagine you meet a guy, and you're out right, and then he's like, hey, you know, after a while, y'all follow each other on Instagram and you see that he sent you a message back in the day, like maybe like a few months ago, and there was some crazy

weirdo ship. Would you would you kind of? Because you know how people say say it's a picture of his dick, because we get that often. Oh my god, that's disgusting. Would you continue? But he's a nice guy, he doesn't swept you off your feet and everything, But nine months ago he sent you a picture of his dick? Would you continue to talk to him? No? He's probably sent out to a lot of people, like why would you he's Have you ever sent news? No, not even to

your husband, but I have. I have said like bikini's and stuff, but not completely Okay, okay, what if that were just not your faith in it? Vikini with a nipple hanging out or like oh you guys, I'm gonna trend so bad after that? We just wonder, all right, but listen, you said that this new album is gonna be a lot more personal, right, and you'll be talking about a lot of things and addressing things. And so we've heard the song Dangerous Love, and so let's talk

about that song. And I feel like we kind of know what that's about. Yes, So I've been in that situation a couple of times where like I literally know, like this isn't going anywhere. I know he's f boy, he's a dick. He I know he's seen other people, but there's just this chemistry and it's just like, you know, I'll tell him like, this is it, this can't work. We don't talk for a while, and then he calls me out of the blue, and then I give him

and then I go and see him next morning. He stops calling me again, and I'm like, so that's it's a It's dangerous love. Is that cycle? Like a lot of girls, I'm sure have experienced that, and you try and lie to your friends, like you try and pretend like you know into him, or like you were just with him the night before. Yeah, that's what that song is. Like, I feel like, whenever you're lying to your friends about your relationship, you know you don't sunk up because when

you get honest with your friends, you're embarrassed. Yeah, exactly, left that I want, but not just really tell them what's going on, Like what if you like secret, but you're not lying A that's lying. That's like change, that's lying with a different namely to y'all, I do as a lying bitch, you don't really touch your friends because if they're like your sisters, like your friends. I like to Angela, like a time, y'are lie to me, and it should be like, Okay, I have to tell you something.

But I didn't really want to put it out there until I'm for sure that it was gonna be a thing again. So I just kind of kept it to myself. Well, I liked because I was embarrassed and I thought it was gonna happen, and I thought it would work again. Obviously I wouldn't have fell back for it, but you know, in the midst of it, like I'm an idiot. Like so that's why I don't want to share with my friends. I don't need her to tell me I'm an idiot

on top of the back, they've never used those words. Well, I felt like an idiot and I did such a dumbask. We're even entertaining him and trying to think I'm hard to talk to yourself like that. So it was just like when I feel like it's gonna be a thing, then I'll let everybody know. But we're spend way too much time together, and yeah, we're too closed and I can't just make up stuff. So I telling myself when

remember and I had to tell you at the airport. Yeah, she tells me because and she you can't help yourself. It's bed to tell me. But some things you'll keep and some some people like and you know that she's gonna be a little more harsh, so you kind of keep it from her for a little bit. I am pretty nice about it. Still, I could be way more harsh. She's nice, but she's like me, like we take jabs. But when I know that somebody doesn't want to talk

about it, I'll let it go. But and was still take a job at you and you'll be like, bitch, I knew I should have told you why thinking friends like that though, because it's just like it's too fun heavy heavy, you know what I mean. Like she's just making it like, I don't know, making you feel comfortable, like yo, it's not that serious, like in a bad way. It's more of a you know, a jab and a

joe people. Yea, I always would have somebody, my friends, I would always have your back to like you doing you know I make fun of but if yeah, but it's still if you hear anything, if you're like, yo, this didn't work out, I need to come like I'm gonna be like, yeah you will, and so I think

that's the most important thing. But can I trust you guys to hook me up with someone because you guys as oh no, no, no, the person the people we got wrapped up with is the same person for each other, like not the same, but you get what I'm saying. It's the same person. I'm talking about her person. It is always the same person that was kept coming back around. It wasn't like different guys. You would be a gem for somebody, but we gotta we gotta check you out first.

Now ever, being like you might be the one that have you ever broken somebody's heart, because there's some broken hearts out there because of you. Keep it real. No, I mean, I'm pretty I'm pretty open. I'll tell you from the stop like, no, I wouldn't. I'm I'm so gentle. I'm so I would never. I wouldn't be sleeping like like I would never to do that break someone's hat. I mean maybe not on purpose, but you know, maybe

they wanted to be in a relationship. It was just the situation ship and then he wanted to take it further and you were like, na, she'll be I would definitely saying I wouldn't be that harsh. I would definitely tell you from from the start if I if I'm if my head is even there and not like because I'm so into music I just got signed, Like, I wouldn't even like you would have to really really get to my heart for me to even make room for that. How do you break things off with someone I've never

I've always they've always broken up with me. See you what are You're a little crazy, it's all all. It's just as I promised you. I'm really I'm really not. I'm you know what, I'm so, I'm so easy, Like my friends tell me that that's why people take advantage of me, because like I'm so like if I would Robbily tell me cheating and we work work at it and even if I find out it's like I would hut.

I don't think I've ever had a situation where I'm shoting like you motherfucker, I'm break like I've never had that situation. I ain't never been alive then now I'm joking, that's not I'm joking. I literally would just hurt myself and walk away and just I don't know, and I'll still be the dumb one calling and be like, oh I saw you just got engaged. Your wife is so beautiful, like, oh my god, can I cook her? And not to do against what's the registry to damn nice? Yeah, we

gotta toughen that up. All right. Let me ask you this. Have you ever stopped somebody or popped up unannounced once we knew you were crazy? Said lay it out as we're happening. I like it literally like this person was literally taking the pits like I was the was considerate person and something happened. I was calling like back to back to back, like and I was sick as well. I was ill, and I was just like yo, like calling back to back, and he just like maybe fifty

calls and I knew exactly where he was. So I just got in the car and I was just like driving then, like just angry, speeding, and when I got there, he had just left with the girl like m So I'm just that situation. But god knows, I probably wouldn't have done anything. Wait, my god, he just would have looked at them, Like day, I knew it. Did you talk to him when he called you the next day? I had known him for two days and then I picked up the caller to your your name is savage.

We gotta live up to that. I know this is not adding up. Oh my god, I shouldn't put this out there like now. I think it's hilarious and sometimes you gotta pop up. No, yeah, you got a don't know, but you wasn't doing you was popping up for nothing though, that's the only bad thing. We need to have a water balloon or nothing. You have up but thanks to friends. I need to have friends to just be like riding with me, like, you know, I need, I need, I need to get I need to get this. Yeah, we

had to figure this out. What are some other things on the album that we can expect some some of the themes. So, um, I have a record with Sam Smith. Um, I know it's Oh my goodness. He was incredible on it. He was the only person I could hear on the record, and I was so blessed that he you know, agreed to it and and did it. I have a record

with Steph London and Dies. I have this record with David Oh and I have I have a song UM, like I said, call us and it's basically the first time I'm really really addressing um the situation UM about my divorce. And I also have a I also have another record called Celia Song, and it's basically a prayer song UM about sometimes when you just feel like giving up, you really don't feel like getting out of the bed,

and you don't know what else you can do. You feel like life has knocked you down and it keeps knocking you down. UM. It's just one of those records where you're just looking to guard and you're just like, what else can I do? Because I'm at the lowest low So wow, you know, and I'm used to you having like really love happy like you know, this is different.

It is. I just feel like I've grown and I just feel like, you know, I do have a lot of love love songs, but I feel like as an artist, we are we're responsible to talk on things that or to be a voice to the voiceless. And I feel like I'm at that point where I just want to be real, Like I've been through some stuff and I I used other people's music to get me through certain situations, and I want to be able to do that for somebody else. Have you forgiven your ex husband? Oh? Yes,

Like I have to take responsibility. In the song, there's a line that says, um, I wasn't enough. You weren't enough. Even my even our mother's prayers wasn't enough to help this. And it says even jamil Um couldn't keep us together. Um. So it's not a situation where I'm blaming him um or blaming myself. It's just one of those things where both of us couldn't save it. So um yeah, I definitely, And it's in my best interest for him to be happy and for him because I want I want my

son to not just look up to me. I want to look up to both of us. You know. I think a lot of times women that women get that wrong and they feel like, you know, if you're really thinking about your child and you want your child to grow up like, you know, just being balanced, he needs to have both parents just doing good. So I pray for him. I really pray from my husband, I pray from all the time. Yeah, definitely special and different because I,

you know, have the things you're saying. I ain't never hearing nobody talking like that. But what about him? Does he date other women? And how did that play apart when it comes to your son being involved? So we don't really have that conversation anymore. Um, but um, he he is involved in my son's life. They they they're so close, they skype and face time all the time. And yeah, he's he's he's good. He's good to my son.

So H well, I think that's great. Did it take a while to get to this point because I'm sure you weren't like that at first. You know, we're talking about how great a mature. But it does take some time. With THEO, I went for a time where I really was angry at him. Then I went through a time

where I was angry at myself. I went through a time when my confidence was like, oh my god, Like I was just say, maybe if I was a little lie up, maybe if I had more hips, maybe this, maybe if I was this to be like, I was literally just blaming myself and I was like and then I just went through a period where I was just numb. I just I just thought to myself, I never want to be in a relationship. I never I just want

to be with me and my son. I never want to like just go through this pain because it was there's a difference when you break up with someone, and there's a difference when you break up with someone in the public eye. Like I can't I can't even explain just so many people were having an opinion about what what happened and nobody really knowing. So I was in my room for months where I would cry every night like I would. I was just like, how did I

How did I miss this up? And I felt also guilty for my son because I was just like, man, like I didn't want him to grow up like this, like sometimes when I go to school and like they do like Christmas plays and I'm like the only parent there or and I see how he'll be looking at other people with their mom and dad, And I was

just blaming myself for that too. But I definitely on a stage where I accept what happened, I accept responsibility for what I did, and I just know that at the end of the day, God, God has all of us, and that's the only thing I can hold onto How did you snap out of that love point? It wasn't over night, you know it was. I can't tell you when it happened, but I do remember that it took a long time, like a long time where the pain was like overwhelming and it was just I don't know.

I think I just I just consumed my mind with music and just and work and like family and my son. So it's like, you know, like when you're climbing the mountain, like like you just get to the top and you look down and you're like, yo, how did I get up here? Like I honestly can't tell you when that moment was when I'm like, oh, this is the day when I cup and it was well gone, Like I just I just know that now I'm a bit of place, But I don't really know the exact time when I

was just like, oh, the pain has gone. So the album was therapeutic for you, I would assume, oh yeah, yeah, absolutely not just because of that, just the struggles of being a woman, just just just just trying to put out something successful from an African afrobet female, because I mean, you're you're a fan of the genre, and there's not that many of us that get that much hi, and

it's just it's just sad, Like it's really sad. Yeah, no, and I'm that's why I was excited when they said, oh, yeah, I want to you and said I said yes, absolutely, and really like the first time I really knew about you, we was a made in America and that performance was what made me do like, okay, yeah, get some more into this and do my research and then just to see all the doors you broke, and like I said, I love a story, right, and I know that that

is your life, but it's relatable to me, Like are so many women who are going through things. To see you go through it, come through on the other side and prosper and then be able to express yourself and be honest about it. I think those things are really important. That's what we look for an artist, just real life

people just like us, you know. So I know it sucks, like to feel like you have to go through some ship, but I think I think we all go through so much ship and to see somebody that we look at, we're like, yo, she's so dope. She's got, you know, a hundred million followers and she's on the cover of this magazine, sold out, these shows, got her Grammys, all of those things, but she still has real life issue right, like as that makes us listen to the music and

feel it that much more true. Absolutely, absolutely, And I feel like even though, like you know, I'm a freaking and I still feel like as women, we all go through the same thing. And when I when they told me that I was going to be on the show, I was so nervous because I just congratulations, by the a, um, you know all of that. That's amazing. So for me, I was just you know, don't want to interview me? And and they were like yeah, and I was like,

oh my god, like what am I gonna say? So and being that you guys are women, I was so comfortable because I knew that you guys would understand a lot of my journey and I felt open and I felt free that you know, They said, would I be

comfortable to talk my certain things? And I said definitely, because I've been I've been a fan obviously, UM so yeah, this is always a safe space and right and we are always appreciative of those who come through and open up and really share with us and not just make it a robotic interview, and it's more organic when you know, you really feel the freedom to be able to express yourself. Absolutely, I still gonna get you on Breakfast Club though, you know,

you gotta get that that. I'm gonna be sweat important. I know that's like crazy. I'm gonna be looking at you like, oh my god, be nice to me now. But listen, I think it's important because just as A and I don't even know like what John are, necessarily to put your music in. You just make amazing music, really good. We do our part and let it, you know, And I know you know millions of people obviously you know who you are. I know about you, but I want to make sure here more people are put onto it.

So no, I said, listen, I'm a new artist, like I can't. I'm definitely that's that's a new market for me. I'm not even gonna lie it's it's definitely a new market. And it's exciting for me to even start on such a platform like this, like it's a new market. Definitely. Alright, Well, Salia, it is that on the twenty eight? Is that correct? Eight? Yes? Now you're excited. We're excited to have you guys been to Nigeria or Africa. I wanna be a Johannesburg, Yo, Joe,

but essay is amazing. I've I've only been to Morocco and I stayed for like one day. I know, we were like stopping there. So it's just I want to go so bad though I've been telling ye, you know that's gonna be Listen, Y're not having us right now because our president is coronavirus very well, and we don't wanna. Nobody wants us. But as soon as we're allowed to come, we are there. I always I wanted to go as a private jet. So I'm sending them over and then

see if you guys are free, We're ready today. Okay, we're here. We my bags, tack y'all bags back? Yeah, back the bag just like this. No, but listen, I seriously was and I know Nigeria Legos is way different than Johannesburg, but I had so much fun when I when I tell you, I can see why people would be like, I'm just moving here, I'm out like yeah, and I heard the guys, which I don't understand why you heard that. Guys is fine. African man are definitely special.

I love them. Like, you know what I wanted to ask you because you worked with Beyonce, and um, I got into it on one of Jasmine Brand's post and it was with the girl No Name, and she was basically talking about Beyonce's movie Black Is King, and she was basically saying like this is what was she saying? This is capitalism and this is that. And then third, now, as being an African woman, do you look at stuff like that and be like, oh, this isn't a good representation.

Because it was a little confusing to me why people were kind of attacking Beyonce. But I figured maybe because you know, I'm not African, so maybe there's something that I don't know about that you know, you would feel offended by. So so what you're you're saying that she

was creating the culture? Yeah, basically yeah. Um, and as an American or just me in general being a Beyonce fan, I actually book that she was celebrating the culture, right, saying that they were in Africa, and then it was so many African people, you know, the whole cast basically

besides the celebrities, we're African. And I'm like, yes, you know, we need this, we need to now I would to go, yeah, that's how you know for her to say that I was shocking the call like I which I kill, well, I am shocked and too, to be honest, like it's that's crazy because how can you how can you say an African American woman is appropriate and African culture, Like

you can't steal what's yours? That's what I thought today, Like she's we're we're all originally African, so she's she can't really say that she's appropriate and African culture because she is originally her bloodline is originally African, and she was celebrating the culture. Um, like she said, put a little artists, a little creatives um on Black his King.

I don't think anybody that watched that would not feel some kind of great emotion or just me just being proud to be African or of African descent if you're not African. So I personally didn't feel that. Um. I think it was iconic what she did. It was great. She didn't have to do it, and she did it. Um. And again I honestly stand by my words. I don't really think you can still what's yours real or African So you think you could be with a man like

get married again if he was an African. I'm just trying to figure out who we're gonna send your away. I love I love, I love black men. So yeah, I mean, he doesn't have to be African, but I need that you need going to be black. I'm with you have I'm too light give for a white guy anything like that. We're just gonna have clear kids and I need MYKDS, some color Claire kids. Yeah. I don't really waiting on you to hook me up with some

of you know you become Jake. I was wanted to make sure he has someone that is in the back of my mind. But the only reason why I don't want to do it is because he is a basketball player and I wouldn't trust him to be like faithful to you, but he would be. Mind would you mind somebody younger? You want somebody older? Doesn't matter? I don't. I don't mind age like ages like, yeah, I mean I wouldn't date a sixteen year old, hopefully, But what's like the what's the lowest you you have to play?

I don't, I don't know, I just I mean, it just depends on his maturity. Like I don't really look at the age. You look so young. I felt like you could date the twenty six year old and just get away with it. Right young, but my boned Your penus not too big? Yeah yeah yeah, alright, well see we scavage again. Thank you so much. We really appreciate you. We had a great time with you today. Thank you. We're coming to visit you girl. Make some stakes us get the jet. Thank you for having me than I

like that hashtag get the jet, get the jet. Let's go, all right, Thank you. Hi