Episode 256: Pinky Ring Remix (Feat. Ne-Yo)

well I won't see everybody else. But the majority of people kind of looked at this whole COVID nineteen thing, this quarantine as a negative thing. Oh man, we gotta stay in the house whatever whatever for me. Honestly, when they stay stay in the house, I was like, you gotta tell me twice because I don't get to stay in the house. I don't don't. I'm earlier at all, what I mean. So I took it as an opportunity to,

you know, to lock back in with my kids. Of course, as job as everybody knows, my wife get back to the stuff that that matters, you know. We tend to let a lot of the stuff that don't matter matters so much in in regard to just the way that we the way do we live this thing. And I'm happy that I'm happy that this. I'm not happy that anybody lost their life, of course, you know, dutiful Code nineteen.

But I'm happy that this set your ass down moment happened because it didn't need We definitely needed this moment. The earth needed this moment, right, I agree? I agree, did y'all? Some somebody told me that, uh, the olds On layer was healing itself because it was less people driving cars and whatnot. And yeah, there's there's a lot less smug and everything and there, and even like natural wildlife. But I will say the problem here in New York is these rats are everywhere, so that are like the

ones on the ground put both. But you know, because a lot of the restaurants aren't open, so they're used to like drummage in through the garbage and because there's not as much of that, so and you know, New York is already kind of dirty. So we go outside and the rats are everywhere. Now, yeah, man, you know what I want to asked, because I've been watching everything you've been doing, right, do you think that people give up like too quickly in relationships and especially in marriage?

So absolutely absolutely. Nowadays, you know a person will find any excuse like why are you why are you breathe so loud? You know what? You know what? We need space? This is this breathing you're doing. I can't take all this breathing. They'll find any reason to to get out of relationship nowadays, because relationships are not easy. It's just what it is. It's not easy to constantly find that common ground with another person if that person is really

being who they are. Like you, two different people with two completely different outlooks on certain things. You're not gonna like other all the time. It's gonna get hard. Being faithful. It's hard first time people. For some Okay, for some people, yea. Being faithful it's not an easy thing to do. It requires discipline that a lot of people either don't have or don't want to work towards having. That's just what kind of what it is right now, you know, being

quickly easy. I would push back and say that being faithful is easier than not just because I think that once you get older, like having multiple it's just gets like complicated, it's a lot of work. It costs more money than just being like with one person and not having to worry about all those things. I think it's all in a way that it's done. But I do agree with you as as you age, you start you start realizing what's important versus what's microwaves, so to speak.

You know what I mean, It's like it's like waiting. It's like waiting on that home cooking meal even though it's gonna take a little long and you know it's gonna be good, so you way instead of going to McDonald's re quick and grabbing a burglar. You know what I mean. It's just so nil. What do you feel like where your issues? You and Crystal's issues when y'all decided like, all right, we're gonna have to really call it quit whether your phone, you know what, the fault

lives on, default lives on both of us. I can genuinely, truly and honestly say the fault out and through both of us. I'm not gonna go too heavily into detail just because I'm not, but just I mean, the best way to put it is when you are not being honest with yourself about things, and this and this goes

for both of us. It's going to be difficult to get the get that genuine from anyone from from It's not gonna be it's not gonna be a genuine uh connection if you're not being honest with yourself, If you have issues that you need to deal with, you need to deal with those issues. And if you don't deal with those issues, those issues will cause where between you and that person that you're trying to be with. And uh, that's something that we both needed to learn. You know,

we both had to do some soul search. We both had to get into ourselves and go all right, let me put this mirror in front of me and figure out what's wrong with me before I turned it, and go what's wrong with you? Y'all had some y'all have some petty moments, you know during that to say there was some pettiness going on, I was like, I didn't know, never so petty. How was it? I was? It wasn't just you. I got both of you guys, though, you did have some petty moments, you know, And when when

drama is drama is it is what it is. I don't think either one of us had Uh. Okay, everybody took Pinkyring as a disrecord. It was not a disrecord. Listen to the lyrics of the song. I didn't say anything negative about her. I didn't diss her on that record was flattering, No, it was a flatter. It was a song about divorce, right, Yeah, this was turning the Ring and Spinky Ring. That was the disk because it's

like right in my heart, that was me saying. That was me saying, as opposed to sitting in the dark room crying my eyes out, I'm gonna keep it pushing, I'm gonna keep it pimping. That's that was what I was saying. But that's what that's what guys do. You know, that's what guys be doing the breakup. I feel like guy on y'all breakup. No, they try to like act like they're okay, and you know, just brush it off

and keep it moving. But then it comes back and affects you later because you didn't do it, and then it hits you even harder and even harder. Very true, very true. Yeah, I won't to not none of that. Yeah. I wrote the song uh pretty much the night that you know, the argument happened that caused. It caused us to to like separating and uh, it was a rant, but it was a classy rant. Okay, I'm not I'm not that dude like that because I'm not gonna do that.

That's still the mother of my kids. At the end of the day, I'm saying, I'm never gonna I'm never I'm not that guy. She got to live in unfair that like he might write a song about me. I gotta get like, like I decided to do nothing is inspired many songs she ain't work And then you want right now, write the new song right now. I don't want nobody else you to love, you to love I love it, Yes you the love feature my man Jeremiah. Um, I gotta I gotta give credit where credit is due.

A lot of this song was was Jeremih already like when he brought it to me. The beat was done, the hook was already on it, his verse was done. All I did was at the parts that you did me. And that was that. So I got man, gotta get that man his props. But that must have been perfect. You're usually one right in the songs, right, so that must have been due. I wanted to I've been a fan of Jeremi for a really long time, and I wanted to work with him for a really long time.

It's just whatever the schedules, you know, situation circumstances causing not to happen. I'm in a studio working on this album with my man, rock Star, you know rock Star. Yeah, all right, so you dope produce a dope writer. So we're working together. We're having a conversation about people I want to work with that I haven't yet. I mentioned Jeremiah Litening goes, oh wait, time up. Jeremy pulled up that night, two records that night, and one of Woman's

is do You to Love Joining? So yeah, that's it's hard to get Jeremed into anything that's not music related and being in the studio related. But when it comes to music, because that dude, that dude is a musician, you know what I mean. I think I think that in the music industry, you have musicians, you have you know, celebrities like stars, you know, like the front person, and you have you have people that do it that do it form from a musical standpoint, and that's the that's

the focal point, that's the important part. And I feel like that's kind of what Jeremiah is. Just like, you know what, and I it's not so much about what I look like or what I'm wearing right now, listen to this joint. You know what I just did. It's back, you know, like that's that's the that's a different cloth. Man. Do you think that breaking up and getting back together might make your love stronger? Just because during the time of part you realize just how much you missed somebody

or just the things that you need to change. And sometimes I think people break up and then they go out there and they try to find something else and it doesn't really work out, and then they realized what I had at home, that's the best thing I had. Uh yeah, I really couldn't said about myself. Yeah it was.

You know what. It's like I said earlier. We we tend to let the outside noise get real out, you know, being opinions from friends, opinions of other people you know, you get know I g and get to reading comments

and opinions from people you don't even know. You tend to let all this stuff become really really important to you for some reason, and it becomes definite to where you can't hear the person that's sitting right next to you, that's been right next to you when he was down, that's been right next to you when he was ugly, it's been right next to you when he was broke. You know, you can't hear that. You can't hear that person because all you hear is the loudness. So what's

happening for worth? You know? So again, that's why when I when we were forced to sit down, you know, we got there. We got the opportunity to really look at what's important. And what's important is the fact that I would die for you, you would die for me. That's the love that we share. Everything else we're supposed to be able to work through. Everything else we supposed be able to work through on top of that foundation,

and and here we are. I felt like the blog quickly tried to like pin y'all against each other and um one of the things that happened was that Crystal was seeing out at a party and she was with a guy from Black Ank Ryan. I So, how did that make you feel? When y'all are in a situation where y'all were kind of not talking, then you see something like that is that something where you call her immediately or did it kind of just confirmed to you that you're like, damn, this is really over, Like how

did that work out? Um? I know Crystal. I know Crystal better than a lot of people, and I know one. I knew one hundred percent for a fact that it wasn't what everybody thought. It was, like, she's not that person. But also she also knew that was a good picture to make you mad. Yeah, that's what I was probably at least that's a good Hey, you guys, y'all know that's a good strategy. You always. I don't. I don't.

I don't doubt it. I don't doubt it. But I knew that it wasn't that, you know, because again, that's not who that's not who she is. That's how and I saw it, and I'm like, okay, um wow, that is that is definitely petty. But I didn't. I wasn't. I couldn't. I couldn't let it. I couldn't let it

phase me. I didn't let it face. I had to again, I had to keep a print and I had to keep a pushing especially because at this point I'm surrounded by all of you know, my my crew and everybody, and you know a lot of my friends like, yeah, we're single again. Why do guys very much keep that Yeah, well I'm all right, you know I'm saying. And then I give by myself. Yeah you know what they saying. Right, guys are the ones to celebrate the break up. But

why did they do that? It's so annoying, Like then the friends are so happy, like, yes, you're a single again, while the girlfriends are like, oh no, girl, you're gonna be okay, we got you back girl. Exactly what happens, especially if the majority of your friends are single too, like they want you to bring the They also don't care if they're single or not. Majority of them, your married friends are like, yeah, we're single again, and I shout out to you, I got I got on my

good brother shore. I saw you were giving the merchant shout out to Von not in a relationship. Now that's and you had a baby and everything. So that's joke. Did anybody embarrass theirselves with you, like as far as maybe jump out the window and black You know, I've been waiting for you to to get a not in those exact words, but like I've been waiting for you to break upside get my yeah, and then and then and then my way say, I will say that my d ms were more active than than they had been

in along once knowledge of the divorce hit. But even more so than people jumping out the window, it was a lot of people that was that that started telling me about myself because I and in the relationship, Um, I allowed myself to change behind my marriage, like like I became a different person to to my friends and became a different person to the people that I worked with behind my marriage. And and you know that was part that was one part of that was one part

of what we had to work on. That I got into a place where I felt like I couldn't be me around her, you know what I mean. I don't know how we got there. I don't know what that was, but I got into that place, and uh and and it became evident, you know, whenever we were hanging around with my friends, you know, when my friends aren't there on one way, then when she shows up, I would come another way. And it's like I didn't even realize it.

So like, you know, when I when I went to my friends, like hey, I think I'm getting a divorce. It became a you know what, brother, I'm gonna say nothing. You ain't you what? You ain't you in this marriage? Like something's wrong because you're not you. I don't know what, but you you're not you in this marriage. And I don't know if this is what needs to happen or whatever, But now that you're in this place, now I can tell you you ain't you at for whatever reason, you're

not you in this marriage? You know so, I mean I paid attention to that. I paid attention to, you know, just what I would feel when she would come around, and I and I realized what it was and needed to happen. What what conversation we needed to have. We had that conversation. We're in a great space now, you know. And and my and my friends. The cool thing is that my friends see it's who they see now. They can see that, you know, I don't feel like I

have to become another person when she's around. I can be who I am, you know, around I can be me around everybody there. Well, were these different people like how do you what's different? Like what's different when? Yeah, like what it's different when you're around your friends that you feel like you had you had to back then change like what is it that was different when she was just differently these different elements of my personality, you know what I'm saying. Like some uh some might some

a person might say that I'm a bit flirtatious. Person might say that, you know what I mean, And uh, I don't mean it to come to come across flirtatious. I'm just a very friendly person. And there was a point in our relationship where uh that became that became an issue, the point of relationship with that became an issue.

I could see that point where I felt like, all right, all right, uh, wife, he's around, let me to try to avoid us getting into a potential argument later and and that, you know, and that maybe that got me the feeling like, Okay, if I can't be who I am with you, then maybe we shouldn't be together because who I am is who I am is person that I am. I'm not being because because you're around and I don't I don't think that, I don't think that

I should have to be. But then she also said, all right, well, I don't mind you being you, but you you definitely know the line between being you know the right. So so it really became again us going all right, what is it that's wrong with me? As opposed what is it that's wrong with you. It's kind of like, right, I didn't know the line between flirting and and being and being funny. I know thee I know when it's all right, But that's that's a bit toofore. I know, I know, we all know. We get we

see what we can get away with. That's just kind of that's just what people tend to do in relationships with you don't ever want to do something like if you can't do it with your wife there and you would be uncomfortable, then you shouldn't be doing it. But

she's not. That's always a good thing to see what's appropriate and what's not, Like if I'm comfortable and she's here and I and I said this or acted this way, and then when she's not here, because I think you can really measure a person by how they act when

you're not around. Right, That's but I feel like, still on on the other on the flip side of it, it's kind of like you can't make someone feel so suffocating with being the souths if that's his personality, Yes, like you said, there's a line that needs to be drawn. But that's why I feel like you both have to had to work on each other because it's kind of like, what is my insecurity that I feel like I can't just let him flirt with people and just in a

friendly way. Maybe you might take it too far after a while because you take everything. You know what I mean like, Okay, he's gonna go too far. I know he's gonna go too far. So I get what you're saying. We're both sides hold out ladies. Now, y'are not letting your man de flirtations? I know, but you also don't want some because I did have a similar problem where I would change my personality around the person that I've

been told that before. Did I've changed my personality around, But it's because they take that things that you would do. So now you feel like, damn everything, I'm doing it. But then the conversation you're supposed to go, all right, if this is what it is, okay, so you tell me, you tell me what's the line for you? I know what the line. I know what the line is. I know what I feel like the line is. You tell me what the line is to you and we and we compromise. We find a way to where both parties

can be happy with the outcome. Like, that's what compromises supposed to be. All right, it's not completely you and it's not completely mean. We've both been that we can meet in the middle, and let's talk about to do. Let's talk about something antients were discussing it right now. Okay, so is this taking it too far? Right? If somebody says a girl that your friends sits on your lap but it's not in a sexual way, but maybe just not enough room in the car, Like, what's the reason

why this happened? I don't know. Actually, just feels comfortable enough to do that, you know how some people are just super friendly acting. Um, yeah, that's just I can't let Yeah I'm not that's not that's crossing. Okay, what okay? What about just coming and hug and a kiss on the cheek? Is that okay? Um? I mean yeah, yeah, it depends on it depends on the situation. Yeah, that's fine,

that's fine. Now again okay, so so the kiss on the cheek, there's a friendly kiss on the cheek, and then there's a kiss on the cheek that clearly needs more than a kiss on the cheek. It's like half on the mouth, half on the cheek again, you know, you know, you know the lines. Now what you do is how you do it? They do that, and then there's and then there's a not so filing way to

do that. Okay, Now what if you're in the club and the girl is next to you in the club and she leans her head on your shoulder for a second? Is that too much? Why was you Angela? That is it like some sleepy like just like I'm so tired of being in the club, you know, and then next thing, you know, there's a picture everywhere. You know, if you can't even explain that, Yeah, I think I think one part of it is is again like it's it's very

good the thing that you said. You know, if you wouldn't be comfortable doing it with your significant other there, you probably should do it. Yeah, you don't want to put yourself in position to to to even to even create confusion like so, well I would so I wouldn't have no girls sitting next to me and then put her head on my shoulders where somebody can stop to get you to where Now we have confusions about what happens and this this thing come on a little bit girl,

and we need we need something more realistic examples. Okay, what if there's something what if you can't explain this is something that can't be explained, then clearly it's something that shouldn't be done. Like if there's no explanation for why this is feasible, then clearly, Like I got one, a female artist texts you at three in the morning, a female artist, It doesn't matter what the text she's texting, just the studio when she was texting to say I

meet home. What if she texts you, let's get this piky ring me mixed going almost annoy here? Well okay, um, all right in reference to that, because I am an artist, because I am a songwriter, because I know what production is and I know what studio work is. Uh. An artist texts you at three a m is not that uncommon, you know, because we keep laid hours. That's so that's nothing. I'm common. Now. What that text message says is what's important.

That's where that's where we start the line. Instagram model and she's like, you know, I want to be in your video and it's three in the morning. No no, no, no, no, no. I mean, if that's the case, it's business. There was no none casting called the casting cursy. Hey baby, oh no, just just talked about she be in video. Let to say, one of your single friends brings a group of girls

around and they come by the studio. You want to play some music, see how they feel about it, and one of them is like, oh my god, I love this song, and she kind of works on you a little uh no no, no, no no, no again. That goes back to the whole situation. It's like, too close to the private area. Yea, on my left. We don't need to know where in this in this waste right over there.

I'm good, I'm good working on the phone. Yall had the preasure off, So all right, and ladies like for y'all because it's just interesting to me that y'all say that, because I know both Gigi and Lauri y'all, y'all don't play that flirting thing when it comes to do Yeah, but I think sometimes people take being friendly as flirting, and I think sometimes we do get a little bit jealous.

Like That's why I'm saying that, because I didn't know how it feels it's like I've been that person, and I've also then the person to be like, I don't like that, you know what I mean. And it doesn't feel good when somebody doesn't feel comfortable with your personality and you don't feel like you're doing anything wrong. But like you said, sometimes you just gotta sit down and be like, how would I felt that this is being

done to me? And anytimes that they drink like that? Yeah, Or sometimes you just gotta sit down with that person and go all right, let's discuss the line. Let's just us discussed the down to you so that so after this discussion there's never any there's no more confusion ever again because you sat down. All right, there's what I don't like. That's what I don't like. There's a susceptable, here's it's not acceptable. Cool, all right, there's what I don't like. Here's what I here, and then we find

a compromise, and then we and then we run with that. Now, after that happens, if the same thing is still happening, all right, then clearly that first time get through, y'all need to have another damn conversation, perhaps one a bit more forceful than the last room. You know, like, hey, listen, um he talked about because he was like, you know, the key to success and happiness. So I wonder are y'all like work? Are you working on yourselves? Or's just

like a therapy situation? Because I know some people feel like, oh well I could just work internally internally on myself, but some people need a little help. So did y'all go that route right now? We all need a little help? Um? We we tried. We tried therapy once before, and what we realize is that until we could go to therapy together, we needed to go to therapy separately, you know what I mean. Because it's like like I got things that

I gotta work through. You've got things that you gotta work through, and us trying to do it together is you know, it's distracting, you know what I mean. So so so that hadn't happened before we could even get to a place where it's like because for example, if I'm apologizing to you sincerely but you don't know how to forgive, it doesn't matter that if he doesn't matter how sincerely sorry I am. If you don't know how to forgive me, if you don't on how to let

go of whatever it was I got person. That's as personal work like, we can't we can't do that. We can't work that out together. That's something that you gotta You gotta figure out what it is that is making is keeping you in that place where you hold on this stuff. It could be could be past trauma, could be whatever. But all I know is that I can't help you through that, and you can't help me through what I gotta do. It has to be. It has to be a conscious decision, you know what I mean?

If you could be critical of yourself, then are you a jealous person? No, No, I'm almost I'm almost not jealous enough. Say. What I can honestly say is a defense mechanism because there was a point in time where I was extremely jealous and and and why I wind up getting hurt immensely, you know, to where I told myself, you know what, You can't get hurt if you just don't allow yourself to care as much. Had not healthy, which is not healthy. You can't do that to you,

so do now. At the same time, you can't put your happiness in another person, You definitely can't do that. But you can't. You can't be this this numb thing just walking around either. You have to allow feelings. Sure, um so no, No, not a jealous person at all. Now what about your ego? Are you like driven by your ego in any way? Really? No? Um, I actually kind of pride myself for my absence of yougo, you know what I mean. I'm not I'm not the person that needs to get all the attention in the room.

I'm not. I'm not to Hey, everybody, look over here, guys, you know what I'm saying, Like like Angela, like you you like you see me in social setting, I'm somewhe yeah, like I'm I'm chilling. So no, and I was coming to that. M all right, Now, let's talk about the new album because I know you've been working on new music and I'm sure this kind a lot to be inspired by. So we heard this thing, so what else can we expact? I'm still working on the album right now.

I have not finished completely. I'm like three fourths of the way done. I figured too three more records and I'll be finished. Um. All of my music, pretty much my entire career, my music is always mirrored either my personal life or the life of people around me. You know what I mean, this album is no exception. I mean a lot of things have happened in my personal life over the last year and a half. You know, a lot of things happening in the world over the

last year and a half. So a lot of stuff to talk about from a lot of different from a lot of different standpoints. There's a lot of there's layers to this album because it's like there's some vibes that you've heard me on before, and then there's some vibes that you know are gonna be somewhat new, Like oh, okay, I didn't even realize that was neo like that. That's what I was kind of searching for some of these records.

So I mean you mean like genre wise or like sound wise wise, genre wise, round wise, all the way across the board. Like, I just did a lot of a lot of certain on this album because I don't I'll be completely hunted with y'all. I was very much in my head at the beginning of creating this album. You know what I'm saying, like like, just let's keep it already funky. I'm forty years old, you know what I'm saying. Like this is my what I think this would be my eighth ninth album. Yeah, you know, I've

been here roughly twenty years. I started like I'm right, a lot of lesson and thankful about. But at the same time, it's like you know, you see, you see it's a hand racing coming up. The sound has changed, the look has changed, like what, like where do I fit? And what's happening right now? You know what I'm And I allowed those kind of thoughts to creep in, and um, what it took was me just really again blocking out the world and getting back to the reason that I

do music in the first place. I never I never got into music because I want to be famous. I didn't get in music because I wanted to be rich. I got into music because somebody told me that I could actually get paid to do some ship that I was just gonna do anyway. But I can. I can defend for my family and myself with with some ship that I was just gonna do. Oh turn me up. And when you look at it from that place, you just make music for the love of making music. You

don't go it's just a hit, it's rhythmic. Gonna pick this up you know all of these things that that that stand in the way of the creative processes to let them, you know, you can't, you can't think like that. At least for me, I need. I need to be able to go in and just go where my creative vibe takes me and not worry about where it's going to like right, and that once once I finally got to that place, it allowed me the confidence to start working with other writers. For a long time, I wouldn't

work with other writers. I just never felt like nobody's gonna give me me better me better than me. But when I said the confidence to work with other writers, the confidence to say, Okay, I know what I can do,

I know how I do things. But to to not take advantage to the fact that there are other points of view is to almost it's almost blind yourself, like it's more than one way to do every everything, you know, So why would I not take advantage of somebody else's point of view on the same thing, or somebody or you know, somebody else's point of view on the beat or maybe this word is apposed to that word, you know,

the lingo that changed up a little bit. You know what I'm saying, and I'm not keeping up on purpose, so too it makes sense to pull on these little young cats in and go all right, here's how I say it, and then and then how y'all say it. Okay, let's figure out how to make these two make sense, right. I really like to um, you really help people see a lot of John Austin's work too, like with them versus thing for people to realize damn, he got all

them hits. And I feel like that's what's been really great about that, and I think yours in particular really did that. Yeah, man, that was a lot. That was a lot of fun. That was a lot of fun. We saw the Dream and Sean Garrett's uh situation, and how I kind of kind of went left a little bit. Yeah, I got to dream shout out to Sean Garrett. I'm not talking. I gotta love y'all. You know they got for you? Are you always end up in some drama? I telled me. I tell me I wanted him and

the Dream to go against each other. To me, that had yeah, but but there there's was set up, you know, and and it didn't exactly. Let's three can go a where you needed to go all right. So that's so John pretty much called me the next night like, yo, we should go next. Alright, cool, but let's let's set some ground rules, you know, because something. Let's let's figure out what I didn't go right with that and try to and try to, you know, try to rectify it.

So we said, all right on the twenty songs a piece a minute, thirty press songs, right, bo bo bo, keep a claim, keep a classy, alright, cool, caught up Swiss, caught up Tim. That was like what it was all for. It got in and it was a class It was a classy. It was. It was a gentleman's duel. It was what it was. They even had his little glass of wine. I'm like, damn, bro was doing it like that. I don't know who. That's not right, That's all right, you gotta be you now, John, John Legend and Alicia

Keys are coming up looking forward to this. If you couldn't get people advice on these versus battles as fire as like orders to play songs in and you know, because I think it's hard to tell. Sometimes I feel like people start off like not really doing the hits, and then they like, what are some what some advice you could get from having done it to make sure that you really like and did you have everything planned out, knowing what song you were gonna go against where you're

more spontaneous, like oh he's playing that, let me play that? Yeah, now we um. I definitely did my research. I knew what I knew to a degree what he had coming before before it came, and I set up counter songs like all right, if you played this, I'm gonna play this, you know what I mean? And then plus was like kind of my my cornerment here. No, that was had everybody gotta have that right, Remember Raley had the whole

hype man situation and the atmosphere. But yeah, I mean it was so ours was, you know, before the thing just really really took off. So I think we had like eight two hundred thousand people uh tune in for ours, and I just personally thought that it was a dope moment for R and B. You know, nowadays hip hop gets a bigger spotlight, that's just kind of what it is.

And but for that many people to tune in for something that was like strictly R and B because I didn't even I didn't play none of my pop records. Like we stuck. We kept it strictly like you know, Beyonce and Tony Braxton and Elia Kerry, Yeah get it in the R and B space, and people stuck around for the whole time for R and B. So I was like, this is this goes beyond winning or losing, even though I personally felt like once I look back at the playlist, he won, I go, but it went

past that. It was bigger than that it was. It was a it was a win for for rmy I felt good a good part of that night. I want to know who you think is gonna win on June team. M hm oh yeah, okay. So so I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm trying to I'm trying to think it hits okay, because because it's it's hits. That's that's the thing that I did. I didn't exactly agree with. It's like some battles. Even in our battle, we played some songs that wasn't necessarily hits, just something we wrote.

I think that I think that you should stick keep it right. I agree with that you have some people you lost that what it is you ain't gott enough to play it hadn't had it. It had to at least charted in the top ten, because sometimes you have sons that might be your favorite. There was this album catch that they're in the general public know the hits exactly.

It's a battle like it should just be hits, because mind you, if you've done an album, if you've done with the two albums, you got songs, if you could play, yeah, if it's a battle, if I'm trying to win, yeah, I feel like he's didn't answer that well, but you thought, and I want you to go ahead. Jes got her braids, feel like, yeah, I'm going with Alicia Key you are. I love it. I hope they don't want to get

what I think. I think Alicia might get it, if not to mention that that's happening, not to mention that her husband owned versus. I think that's why she's gonna win. They're gonna brig it. No, they'd be like, sorry, we lost John Legard. I don't know. You're working everybody on the line. But they're both on Liana. We don't know what. I didn't realize that they're both gonna be on the piano. That's so dope that they are Oh wow, I don't know, why would you make some ship like that? Well, hey,

it only makes sense. So and the last thing I want to say is, Neo, you know, I'm sure that you have to be so happy that everything in your life has come close circle. We saw Moneta and Crystal on the Live Together. They like each other, and I know so many people out there wanted to be in that situation, in that stage. You know, they've gone through things where they have lended families and it's been really, really difficult. So you know, what was that like for

you to get to that process? And if you could give those people some advice, what would you say As far as the man's role and making sure that women can get along? Um, well, I mean the man plays a role in that, but not as big a role

as you would think. Like it really comes down to the two women being mature enough to realize that there is nothing that we could be for about that is more important than making sure that these kids are raised properably, That these kids are raised seeing love and only love from all of this, from all of this authoritians or whatever. That's the part that that's the thing that that outweighs in beef that we could ever have mine. We don't gotta be friends if we just ain't gonna be friends.

But we also ain't gonna be yelling and screaming and bickering and fighting, fussing and fighting back and forth in front of these kids, showing them that there's beef here. You know, we can be cordial. I can say how do you? When you come around, you say how do we? You go away? You know, It's it's rare, but a blessing that that, you know, Crystal and Mo actually found, you know, a way to become to become friends. It's like they talked to each other more than more than

they talk to me. Now I'm not I'm I'm a little jealous, Sam, But but um yeah, it wasn't. It was definitely not easy, you know what I'm saying. It's it's really easy to say the words. It's a whole other thing to now get into you your feelings and emotions and try to apply that. It's difficult. It's very very difficult. You know, Crystal took a lot of unnecessary backlash when we first got together because people thought that

I left more for a Crystal. What people didn't realize that me and Mo had been have been separated for a year and a half before I met Crystal, but they just but you know how people just not take things and create drama and and a lot of people got that Crystal about home record and all of that, and it's like, like, nigga, what you got me into

you with that? The reason for their differences though, because like, was it just that people pinning them against each other, because if it didn't overlap, but with the point of even having an issue with each other at all, but you want to like the next woman that gets it, I think above anything that they had against each other personally, it was it was the gasoline that the media put on the fire you got because it almost felt like people wanted them to be against each other, you know

what I mean, Like it was real rare that anybody was trying to be like, hey, why don't y'all you know, you don't nobody says that, Like that's right girls and all that. Yeah, And it's really easy, it's really easy to talk to to to buy into that, you know what I mean. You know, you got your friends with an opinion, She got her friends with an opinion, and

it's and then you got it. Took them sitting down together, sitting down in front of each other, just them too, to come to where they are and take your friends over there, keep your friends over there. Let's let's sit and really be women about this and get to and get to the bottom of what the real issue. Once they did that, they're good. You know what I mean.

But again, that's a difficult conversation I have. But if if I could give any advice, I say that it's one that must be had after I got out away, because we don't. The only people that suffer at the end of the day is them. Did I came from that environment. I grew up in an environment where my father was married and also had another woman that he had children brock. So there were three women bickering and there were seven ten children involved, and I was one

of those children. So I saw my mother arguing with his wife from arguin with his other girlfriend and fights and busted out windows. And then I also saw as I grew up that they did come together, and I always wished for that day, Like I didn't get to have the time that I needed with my siblings because our parents were bickering. So at the time that that was able to happen and they were able to come together.

I was like rejoicing it because now it's everybody's happy, everybody's in love, and I just time with my family. And I don't feel bad for wanting to be with my dad or you know, for wanting to people my dad's family, just because I get that's the only time I could to spend time with my siblings. Yeah, that powered from that. I'm I'm I'm happy for you all because I've been through that and it wasn't Nil doesn't work the same way with mom YadA, Like if she's

dating somebody, do you sit down all right? Does she have you sit down with the men and or has that not happened yet? Yeah? Yeah, that's absolutely happy. Yeah she's uh, I mean I ain't. I ain't gonta put her business in the street. But I've definitely shut down and had conversations with people that were around more than just a week. You know what I'm saying, Like, all right's gonna be around. You know, we get together, we talk,

you discussed the ground rules. You know what I'm saying, Like, I don't have a problem with your discipline, but don't touch my kids right, you know, you know, just stuff like in your mind for that is what it is. What I want is what you want. Let's figure it out. Let's find a way that from good and it's it's never it's I'll say that, it's been a very, very long time since we've had any beef any drama in town. We dood well, we're looking for us to the new album.

And besides um Jeremiah. When you were asked about who else you hadn't worked with that you wanted to who else did you say? Oh? Man, Um, so everyone knows I've written a song for Beyonce. I've never done a song with Beyonce and I would love to do that. I really feel like me and Rihanna, we we long overdue for another one that I love you, you know made it's Mark. I feel like it's time for us to get in again. Uh. We talked about Jeremiah. We talked about Chris. I actually dig it in with Chris.

I got one with Chris on the album. Um Uh. We talked about Todd dollar Sign actually got in with him. Who wants to be discussed. We won't be seeing John Legend because you said he was gonna lose. It was the toughest iss you. But but you know what, I love,

I love I love jack Hole. Really want to do a record with Jo like I have yet to do a record about just what's going on in the world right now with the protests and black lives matter, no one like I feel like for that kind of record, I feel like that would be that would be all right. Well they ever always so talented and Shelly cool Neil, thank you so much for joining us. Dude, your love is out now with you and Jeremiah. So everybody that yeah gs been riding around with the top down and talking.

We're not talking about the car. I've been having my Windows game, you know, with the breeze going through my braids. That's what it's real summer time. They also got to check you out on your Instagram on Sundays, right that's indeed, every Sunday I'll be on my Live, you know, just because I missed performing and missed being able to like you with my fans. Every Sunday, I'll be on my Live.

We've seen the songs, uh as of right now, like at the end of every at the end of every show, I played a brand new song for the new album. Have a guest calling, you know, some be chelling, mere schelling. So yeah, every Sunday, rough day, around seven o'clock PST something like that, we'll be rugging out very perfect. Well, thank you so much, new you. I always appreciate you, appreciate you. Love y'all. Thank you, bye by