Episode 196: J.W.A. Jackin' With Attitude (Feat. Khadeen and Devale Ellis)

the real real. So we had Kevin and Drinka Gates on, we had and Ronnie de Vote. Okay. I saw Kevin and Drinka at Ruling Loud in Miami a couple of weeks ago actually, and um what, I had saw Kevin a few weeks before that, but I saw them both together and they're like, oh, we got to do it again. So hopefully we'll get them back single, really really good time everything instead of being married couples and doing all

of this together. I mean, I would hope. So after seventeen years together, yeah, but we don't do sit down interviews together and sometimes people you know learn a lot because I would assume they're doing the YouTube series and all of that is probably like therapy too. Definitely said that time and time. It's funny because you feel like after seventeen years you should know somebody. You know what I mean, But I feel like I'm learning him every day.

So being able to talk about certain things we do each other, I mean we did, but we like who were at three five that we are when we were younger. I'm saying seventeen years though, even though seventeen years we're all disagreeing on to that I was a different person. Okay, well, what we're gonna do And I'm so glad y'all said that because we are going to see what you guys know about each other? So did we need to leave the room for a minute. This is gonna be fun

from from like a show? But where can he go that he can't hear because he can't go in that room. Take somewhere, days somewhere and I'll text you when you can bring them back. So we're gonna ask you some questions. He comes back, he's gonna answer, and then we're gonna reverse it. And I say, somebody anywhere. It's been married women. Okay, man, lord alright, conem what is something that Devout likes to

eat that you can't stand? Oh? Um that I can't stand cheez And the funny thing is he's the pickiest eater. I'll be willing to try stuff and whatever. I'm gonna say pork because I'm not really a pork eater from ribs. He likes all that. I'm like, not so much. Okay, So who fell in love first? I did about two weeks. I was like, I love you and he looked at me like it was like, I know, I know. I was like, damn, just do Okay. Who said they're not

in the mood more often? Oh, it's me. It's absolutely, especially after three whole boys, I'm still trying to figure out who the hell i am. So yeah, I'm definitely the one that's like I need a little more coaxing, you know. Okay, So who's better in the bedroom? I am down? I put it down May in the mood all the time, But when I am in the mood, show out because he's absolutely tricks and ship. Okay, what's your favorite move that Devo does in the bedroom? Oh?

He has a really good back shot. So that's my favorite dog. Dorky, what's your least favorite move that he does that You're like, you gotta do this. I be trying to put my legs behind my head and I'm always just like, dude, like I can. It is uncomfortable, and I got the U D N. And I'm like, I don't know if it's that euden. He's like, I feel that joint. I'm like, yeah, I just don't put my legs behind my head please. And you know I am flexible as I used to be, so alright, who

spends more money? I do? Absolutely. He calls me the a max killer, just so y'all know. Okay, so I'm the a max killer. I'm always finding a way to spend money. But I told him it's for his comfort. So I'm either find buying something for the house or something to make myself happy. That's your hoarder, you know what I mean? A hoarder what I mean? That's what he said. Yeah, if you didn't already know, you know your guys out there, that's true. So guilty too. We

didn't say what the day is. I don't have a lot of things, though, I like all the things out of that way, all of the things, all right? So who is the giver and who is the taker in your relationship? Oh? We argue about this a lot. He feels like he's the giver and I'm the taker. Um do you agree? Be honest? Yes, okay, Yes, I need to do a better job of showing how much I appreciate him on a more consistent biasis So yes, listening, Well, at least you know that's that one. You go therapy, okay.

And the last one is what's the most embarrassing thing that happened while you guys were dating early on? Early on? You mean embarrassing together or like his embarrassing moment or my embarrassing moment. It would be like with something that stands out as just haven't been embarrassing for both of you? Wow? Um damn, I don't know what stands out is embarrassing for both of it. This is a time after I had my first son. I paid on myself in the elevator,

because after you have kids, stable the ladder. It's not said up the way it was, And I miss judged the time that it would have taken me to park the car and then get upstairs. And the elevator saw like totally, just like, let it rips in the hedicator and I'm sure that's happened to me. It's only gonna get worse. It gets worse when you're at the door. But yeah, I should have just took the stairs that day. But I was like, damn, motherfucker's out of breath because

I just had a baby. I'm not in shape. I went to the elevator and I paid myself and did you just remember you're in the elevator headed up to your home. I was okay, right, at least I was, but it has to go back to the elevator out and stuff. It was just like it was a hot mess. I know they saw me in the cameras. I'm definitely sure they saw me in the camera. Janitor was probably looking at me, looking at me sideways like this bit. I'm like, at least I cleaned it. You did clean it,

that's nice, right, Yeah, the bladder is not girl. And that's when someone gets in the elevator before you get off, and you're like, I don't know. Somebody mustn't exact take a ship and one store going to and be like, well, I don't know, who did that in that store? I just can't find of this store. Like you know, that's a trick in case you ever got to go really bad. All right, well, let's get devil back in here and see if he knows your answers. All right, I'm scared. Okay,

you got it. After you hear your answers, the okay, got it, got it? Somebody, I'm back. I'm gonna try some angelis shooes. Yeah, okay, here he comes, welcome back. Let's see if you guys agree. You know, you guys have been together for such a long time bam here two decades, so you know each other very well. All right, So we asked Dean, what is something that you like to eat that she can't stand? That I like to

eat and she can't stand it. She can't stand God, think, what do I like to eat that you can't stand anything? I said, right, because supposedly like she's the you're the eaters. So I'm always trying to get them trying new things. And he's like, I like to eat that she can't stand. So if y'all go out to eat, she's not gonna pick off your plate when you get this. I know if if my hamburger is medium, well, she don't want that. That's only I can think of mediums and hand not really.

You love baking though, see it's not the same though bork is baking. You want to say pork and you love bacon. It's a difference. You're the only person that put like bacon on your You got to get that a pass, all right, you gotta pass for that, Thank you. That's one wrong. Come okay. Who says they are not in the mood more often? I ain't even breathe ain't even breathe? What about definitely? And jess Ya Buddha who

says that more often? For you guys, he's more he's not in the mood more than I'm not in the mood. Because he likes to go to the gym, like in the morning. I'm like, what's up? You want me to suck your yes, And he's like, no, I want to go to the gym. Wait, I'll be grabbing him because it's the morning, so he's like a rocket like crazy. I'll be like sucking on him and be like, no,

i gotta go to the gym. After I come from the gym, I'm gonna sun to shut out of here, and I'm t ate already, I'll smoke the bloom taking I'm taking ahead of That's when I'm staying. Go to the gym after you're busting nuts. But doesn't that make your knees weak? Like to say, don't you need that testosterone before you go? That's what he says. I mean, I don't know. He's like, I don't care. He's like, I'm gonna taking it that at this point. Yeah, I'm taking that. My son is my son is going to

be thirteen and a couple. But my son doesn't live with me, and he lives with his father. This isn't my son's father. Let's trade. Let me send you my kids. See how much she was trying to get it. If you just say to me, you want to talk about that's happened. But it's definitely me attacking him, like I'm like, he are mad horny for him? He makes me mad horny? What about he leaves and then it goes away. I'm sorry forgett with her. Man. My birthday turday goes I

turned forty, amazing. I don't think he's ever not been in the mood, and I'm not in the mood, I still do it, So I don't know you would say me. But even if I thought, I'm still going to do it, that I've never turned him down on unless you're in a fight. Yeah, but even then I'm just like, but what's the quality of quality? Like if you don't feel like doing it? That's the thing, because he can tell when I don't want it. Starts off like nonchalant, but then I start to enjoy in it and I kick

it into like my regular self. All right, unless she's just tying her badge up words. Yeah, when I have a twenty two year old daughter, oh wow, I had her when I was seventeen, and um, I didn't do it because I felt like I was all whites outside. Um I did it because I have like this I can't hold my pe problem. And I was told that it helps, like if i'm if I'm called, if I'm called, if I called for a sneeze, I might like drip a little, and um I was told that that would

stop it, and it did. It didn't. I haven't fear to myself set, Yeah, I haven't. Myself always got to get up in the middle of right, So if I just give up a walk away, don't be starting. Yeah I'm not. I'm just gonna go. But yeah, it made um so that I haven't pee when Kaufman or sneezing almost a month, it's like three weeks, and um, it's definitely tighter and sex he feels better. And because sex feels better, my body shows through lubrication life screen. She

got that wet. I might have to get that doctor here, trapped me. Girl probably coming. I bet if you're dating a guy with a little dick and you did that, it probably helps, too well. Too bad, that got it. We're not him, too bad? Too bad that when I had a guy with a little dick was yeah, because I'm sure she'd be like, put some more laser on first. She did, she said she And what was your response, bolus romans? Did you love her? Though? Um? At the time, to be honest, at the time, I didn't know. I

didn't know, I didn't know myself. I didn't know what I wanted. I wanted to smash. I knew that, so I was trying to get an up drawers. I was willing to do whatever I could, but I wasn't gonna do that because then if it didn't work, out, and then I was like, I need to go a separate ways. I already told you I love you, and I'm gonna be a scumbaga. My pop's my uncle told me better than that. Alright, who's better in the bedroom? You are? Who's better in the bedroom? Ships? Oh? I would have

to say. I would have to say her, yeah, yeah, trying to be honest, what I need to work on. She'd be like, no, you good, No, this is definitely her. That's why we want to funk all the time. As great. She put that thing on me too, and she got to do the double hand the guard when super Head did the point with Mr Marks, Mr Market and he was learning from Yes, that's what listen. I studied that study, studied do you perfect at the pepper grind? About her

grinding the pepper? I walked the fool and in the kitchen and I was just like, yo, what you're doing something grinding the pepper? So I was like, let me see she was grinding it off. She was just like, get out of here, mad nasty. He goes up on me when I was cooking. I was like, are you always thinking about that? Nice? He was like, more pepper all right now what is your favorite What is Conde's favorite move that you do in the bedroom at the edge of the bed, she throw that left leg up.

It's doggy style. I know the minute, the minute she wants done, it's over. It's bad for you not do like like path. Then I back up like I gotta stretch my leg. I think breathe said a little bit, you know, then I go back, come back in. But I said, well, answer this, then, what is your What is her least favorite move that you do? Like that you do to her when I put her legs all the way back, I wasn't. I just know her because every time I do that, she splits. But why do

you do it? Because in college she used she used to she's knowledge and that's what college she was, and it was all good. She used to she used to come like the minute I do that, and she used to come like crazy. Now I when I go to pub legs and she's like, I stretched like yoga, I would see yoga. I know I could get it back memory. I'm stretching out a little bit to bring it right back. See. Well that we've seen you falling all over the place over the weekend. Girl, But I hit my head stand up.

So I had this vision, I'm gonna show you all the picture. I'm gonna show you the inspiration. I had this vision of UM doing a recreation of this picture. And then I had the bright, bright, drunk ass idea because we were in a house on Terms and Kicks that had a private beach. Um I had on a three m bikini, so it was like glowing in the reflective light. And I'm like, I'm gonna do recreate this picture, um, and on the beach with this glow in the dark bikini on. But then I drank a full bottle of

Hennessey Privilege out of the bottle. That's this picture, not even the same thing that I did that, and I died, right, But I still tried to do this testing. So I made my sisters and whoever everybody else that was with me come down we weren't live, and I made them come down to the beach with me, and I attempted to get into this headstand and it was just like the funniest thing in her I fell in the sand three times trying to get me to stop, like no,

just another day, Like it's not heaven. Here's the picture that I was trying to recreate it right. Well, no, this is a dress. That's a dress hurt. So I don't know if you'll if you coun show it to the camera. Okay, So I didn't quite hit the picture, but I definitely hit the head stand. Okay, it was a little sloppy head stand, but I did it. And then so I hit the head stand right. But the reason why there's not a picture of the headstand and there's video, and it's because when I hit the know

his video when I hit the head stand. Um, my cousin's like, wait, wait, let me get in a let me get it in the picture. And then right before she took the picture, I fell. And then after I fell, because you were upside down to that, I had the head stand cross my and everything and then I fell. So after I fell, I threw up and they tried to take me into the house and I'm like, no, just leave me here, I'll be okay, And they put me on one of the beach chairs and one of

my friends stayed with me. I woke up at four o'clock in the morning completely completely covered in sand, completely covered in sand. I'm talking about my nose. I had stand in my ears and my body. But I still have stand in my hair because I still have this ponytail, because then all up through my braids and my soul in child. But when I tell you the beach, listen when I tell you that I had the time of

my life this night. It was so much fun memorable and I'm just was Monday night and I'm just now recovered. Don't be fun time? So you got vomit and the marathon continues. She didn't talk about it alright, Devout. The next one is um who spends my money? American Express build every time my nickname for me. But the said I'm a hoarder because she says she was watching the video you talking about me hoarding and spend money. I don't get it. Yeah, she's collecting things. These things could

be working more later. It's an investment. Here you go, here you go. All right, who's the giver and who's the taker in your relationship. I'm definitely a giver. She's a taker. You gotta work on that that I give give. We had this conversation, like we did, just have this conversation. I was feeling underappreciated. I'm gonna tell you one thing I do, I tell exactly I'm feeling. I was talking to your man's outside and I told her, like part of the reason why it works is because I'm not

a dude. I feel like I got to be too fucking macho. It's like, no, like I wanted to see you yesterday and you spent mad time with the kids. I ain't gonna put see him at long, like what's up? Because the last thing I want is to feel like undappreciated, and then we'll not see each other. Then I'll be out in temptation catch me at the wrong time, some human like everybody else. So I'm like, you know what, let me just tell my wife exactly how I'm feeling.

She could you know. Yeah, he's like me. He's super transparent about the way you feel. Sometimes it's like painful just to hear I'm just like them. I'm just think about temptation. And just because you haven't had sex in a while, ship, oh my god, like two days you let's say Thursday we have sex is Tuesday, But in my mind, like to the Thursday, like I blinked in the Thursday, so like ship hasn't been two days already,

Like I don't even realize them the two days. She sure doesn't even be counting down, like take care of him. You don't tell them to just take care of him. So he's not the same jack my deck like the house. My wife's in the back, seping legit. Sometimes, especially when I was pregnant, I would be like, bro, you just got to take yourself and he's going to live room and do it and come back and be like the ship didn't work. And I'm like, what didn't work? You

didn't come and he was like, no, I did. But I'm still horny, and I'm like, you not his hands. You never watched I watched him once or twice, but I feel like you get a little you don't because back then I'm jacking my dick and you here. I don't want you watching me now? Can you imagine jacket?

You like Jackie j w Right. And then it's like, especially when you're pregnant, what's the end of pregnancy to its like you know, you get locked yall after a while, your throat be all so just because it's like man, like, dude, give me a break everything. Try to like nikes like they're digging mad long and You're like, dude, like stop, I think he does that sh is punishment sometimes, like you baby, do not do it just punishment, like you're about to catch your nose bleed, bro, Like I'm never

killing to you. He's like, And you'd be like, why do not even start this ship right? Because now I know when she's like that, like she's lazy, like I'm just having to catch my breast side. I had to like, you know, reade again, it's argument. We have arguments watched secnday. You'll like bite me right, but we'll be like stop. I'd be like, are you gonna are you gonna get it to your throat at any point during this whole session, or you're just gonna keep your lips on on the

head like the hand down here. And at that point he proceeds to grab the back of my neck and it's a rat right, Like I want to hear that. Go speak to he blew on it ruined. That was the most embarrassing thing that happened while you guys were dating early on earlier on the most embarrassing thing to her, Well, I'll tell you she said to her something that has easy. She was at a pageant. She went to go walk.

That was early on. I gave him something that was a little after but that you can give him that funny story stage and she she you know, we was having fun in college. She had gained about twenty thirty pounds. You know, we were doing our thing. Went to Friday's every Friday because she had to get the baby, get get Friday three for three sot smashing a line, eating and she had gained some weight. I did. So. She had on a slip and dress with the overlay. No, no, penny,

it was a slip dress with the overlay. So she goes up to the pageant to give the girl a crown because she had to wait before. Again it's like given award. And when she was up, the slip had rolled up and it was just to dress overlay. And all you see is red phone and on stage in front of like four And there's not a lot of black girls in your pageants. Man, She's the only Jamakan one.

So she got a fat and a what you see is red thone and in the spotlight, Oh my god, she's standing up there and exactly and I went and I did a whole turn, do my thing, waving and whatnot. And I was like, and literally my brother. I saw my brother go like this, and I don't want to see that. And that's seen a couple of men like to a class. They look at and they nut me check and I got up the stage and I was like, my mother, damn you Instagram. Oh so three good in

viral though? Can you tell that's a different story. I told him the story about when I paid on myself in the elevator after Jackson work. Yeah, but that was but that was really all she could That's all I could think of. Embarrassing if that's something devoted, it was embarrassing that happened to me in our ladyship recently. I can tell you all the time. Funny for having to me all the time. I was thinking of you Detroit Lions story in bath room. Oh that's it, It's crazy,

all right. So I'm in college, right, and I'm not like an elite pro athlete, right, I'm just a regular guy that's playing football. But I end up be coming all American, right. So, but he was pounds like, I don't look like the typical athlete, right. So the draft come and go sold as free agency, and the only team that was willing to bring me out for a workout. Was the lions to the as flies me out for a workout, and now it was hitting me. Then I'm about to work out for a protein so my stomach

is like someone's killing me. Right. So I'm on the plane like ship you. Now we get off the plane and they take us to the facility and I'm like, all right, so they're gonna take no first, you gotta fill out paperwork. You gotta I'm like, oh my god, my stomach, I'm about to lose it. So then they're like,

all right, you go to the bathroom. I go to the bathroom right and you know how when you get close to using the bathroom when it starts coming right, So it's like turtle heading right now, and I'm like, gett into the bathroom. I go to put the toilet paper down, and then when I turned around to sit, the toilet paper falls in the toilet. So now back around. When I turned back around the bend over to pick up the paper, the ship said against the door like

it was just shot, like god like. So now I'm like, oh, so I'm like then what I'm gonna do? So then I go to start to try to clean it up. And then I had somebody come into the bathroom and they're kicking in the door, kicking in the door. When they went in one store, I went into the next, like I ran with that. I heard them open the door and they're like, Yo, what the fu. So then I come out the bath to him to come out the store, and I'm like, yo, what happened? And then

he was just like you look at this. And I was like, Yo, take this ship, man. He's like this fucking rookies only that ship. Nasty man. I'm gonna go who you want to go get? Somebody was like yeah. So I left and washed my hands. I went to the meeting room. I was like, your ass and everything. Now it was ship everywhere. Bro, I don't even check this story. After that is like, bro, my ship. Your body had bad stories? Oh okay, So you had to

c the squat on Tim's right, not the butters. So this was this was years ago, like early two thousand. Wait a minute, when I'm still living in Philly. In the early two thousands, I used to be like a promo model. So we to go like do cigarette stuff and and alcohol stuff and you know, like a Corona girl or whatever like that type of stuff. So I'm at this smoke shop like out in the suburb somewhere

and something start the bubbling and I gotta go. But I'm like, I used to be a professional dancer um stripper, but before that, I was like a ballerina, so I'm good to like squat and hold it up without having this okay, So I do that move and I look at my balance just as this dropping and amazing ships doing. So I'm like, am I going to clean this up? So I clean myself up and then I started looking around the bathroom. I'm luckily they have some four or nine,

so you always I'm singer. I was. I was in the bathroom for like the hour or longer, cleaning up the bathroom, cleaning up myself, the merch to yeah about. And my girl I'm working with, she like, are you okay? And you know, she's like when you're sick of something? And I just told her, like, girl, I just ship did and hit it before you know, I said my story. I don't. I don't see I'm a girl girls on ship.

I like the same I remember he said that, yes, shot, yes, I can't remember my same ship or making it really talk man like when I first make it, like the first couple of months, she's going to bathroom, it was like air, like I damn ship, nothing like nothing. It was like after a couple of months. We was in college, and this is when when did I break my finger? Yes, I broke my finger, right, so I'm staying in her room. She went into the bathroom, came back out, and I

went in right after her. I was like, I was like, in this room, don't be talking about my insides like that my inside kid? He was right, that was you were doing four wolves? Now don't we talking about closer? No time? Like did she ship? And did you feel good to know? Like that was like another like step in our relationship? She s vicinity. So wait, so now that you guys are married for all of these years together with children, what is like the ship status now?

Like when now now she come, He'll be open all the time, like, what have you coming in my kids? Being there? Once I he was taking He's like, you're coming in my lap? Oh my god, that is the funny part. This is the guy's on the truth. When I was younger and I used to fart, she used to be like, it's cute. Now if I far, She's like to wait from me. Cute in the beginning of it, just like now she gets so disgusted. Oh my god, that's amazing that I can't wait till next len ship.

And your man knows about it. He knows I'm not go in the bathroom. I don't ship. He'd be like, what are you doing in the bathroom if you're not shipping, And I'll be like, I'm talking to Jesus, I'm paying interrupt me. I know him, I know for seventeen years, but we haven't been together for that a long Yeah, what'd you take matches in there? I mean we were we've been on and off over the years, but you know I had a relationship in between, and so they

and now we're back together. Now, Okay, you're drop like dropping flush that's what she used to I don't do working. I don't do that, but if I did, I would be dropping and flushing. But you have to try to look the two have to keep your legs closed and doesn't come out. I had not respected that ship yet. She's upstairs right and she was literally like three weeks ago a room go up before him, and she goes up before me, and then I come up and the bell man it's coming out of the room. Come man's

come out of the moment. I'm looking at him like I'm like, smell like ship. He was like, let me tell you right, So I checked in the race upstairs. I'm like, baby, parked the car, whatever, valet whatever, I'm gonna go upstairs, ran upstairs, took a ship. So first of all, I med ship and out here and knock at the door. So I was like, and I'm thinking it's him. Totally forget about the bell man. So I literally didn't even wipe or anything. I just got up

off the seat because the door was right there. I went to open it and I saw it was the bell matter and I'm just like, oh my god, give me a second. So I let that in. I white, you know everything, Yo at home walked right in and I saw him like it's like like right there. It was like noaking it. Grab yeah, I'm gonna meet you down the whole broad I'm treatment like five minutes later

and he was like, yo, I switched room. This room was no funny me, not the b man, no, my wife as smell shro time you go downstairs, the biodman looking at me. But yeah, I don't know, Yeah, I don't know, especially on this little diet here, forget it. All that bacon and meat and stuff. Yeah, that's all that women's mad mad protein tuna fish right. Oh god, I hate this something to you, especially does whatever kids

tell you too? When you think like you're in the bathroom, they'll walk by the door, do you Everybody shut the hell up now. I wanted to talk to you guys about something that just happened recently in the press. Right, Willis Smith on Red Table Talk was talking about porn, and she was saying she liked artistic looking porn, and so now an adult film star breemals once Willis means to direct the porn and so how did she She's of age and she was talking about watching porn and

everything her mom and her grandmother. If you asked this episode a catch up, if you had the opportunity to direct the porn, what would it be? What would the plot be? What would your treatment be? I already know what I want to see? What cheerleader? Football player? That's very very like She's like sybody you sign aries aries sex and I'm dead as thinking my front of the aries football players. This dude had me, we had it

my skirt. But you know, I'm like and she's like a cheer and she's like, guys, I'm tell anybody I was here sting mazick. I love getting my dick. That's great train. What do I like for you to wear? Like a school girl outfit? Che He literally had me put on my uniform from high school days about it, and we basically did a video about it. Yeah, I mean that ship was up here because my waisted a little bigger, try to take over I take it off.

Was that it was a whole. I don't really just like a I like the school scenario, like like you know, schoolgirl of age, school girl. Yeah, like a little height. You know, it could be college and the professor situation, you know, not like a typical bed situation. Like I like furniture, but not the bed. Okay, up against the bookcase. You guys down the child board right now? Have you guys can pay together like your own pleasure? Yes, we

have not recently. Maybe we should reintroduce that. You know, we've been thinking of ways to make sure you know what the safes are and they're safe. I don't know here we go, but yeah, we should do that because we've been looking for ways to kind of like you know, reinvent spice things up, like a seventy years with the same person. It's like players just keep putting on the uniform. That's a little role play to me. All the time, you were like you dress up, you little kids. I

asked her what you want me to put on? I asked her, let me let him in actual suit. Ask all of these damn questions. I don't get no answers. I'm glad to be here. I actual thing about sex therapy for us too, So that's actually probably my work. I think this is Yeah, it's just sex therapy. We don't have to do a touch base. You don't have to have this back in a couple of years. I'll put my s a full of most of the time. Three P. Three, I'll do all that. I'll do all that.

There you go from scenario point said I dressed will be scandal as these girls nowadays dressing. These are like sixteen thirty year olds. I'm like, I'm grown. See, let me get one of them. Keep me talking about the type ofthetical both that we don't have that. We're not having after this prow of the bar, somebody, I'm pregnant. It's a girl, right, we'll come here to make the announcement if it happens. All right, So, jess, what would you if you had to direct the porn? What would

your plot? By? Girl orgy? Okay, you know we need multiple participants' is it a bisexual orgy? Like guys doing guys? I could direct that. I couldn't be in it, though, No, no, no, direct I could direct that. Why couldn't you be in it? Because I don't want to be in the mix with a guy and another guy and they want stuff. I watch it, but like the guys doing stuff to you though? To the guys doing stuff to the guys though, and yeah, but you and me go from the vaginal I'm not

sexual infection. I could direct a bisexual porny for sure? What do you mean? Called? Um all for one? And Willow? Here's your creative team, Willow creative team? She hits will Thanks? What about your steps? You would you would do the cheerleader? Yeah, definitely, cheerleader with like a bunch of big football players. Yeah, like, yeah, don't wear any people with something. We're not gonna tell. We're not going to tell anybody you were here. We

don't want to get kicked out of school. Girl. You know, my favorite boar is like I'm lost with trying, Like, oh my god, she just walked like I'm lost. It's like we can help you. Help's at that book she's getting. Boy thinks you never your that? What are some songs that when you were growing up, right, you didn't realize they were about sex? And now that you look back, you were singing these songs and you're like, Dan, that

was about sex all that time. I mean, you knew it was about sex, but mine was like flix times to right, but it was almost like damn, I can't wait till Yes, it's playing in the back. Eletric slide was about a vibrator. The electric Yes, I don't know about electric side was it's you just came out recently, it's electric. Yeah. The electric slide is about a vibrator and all the all the way receptions, all of the sprides and ship you into the vibrator. That's the rumor.

It says. It's rumored to be about Okay, let's do a little fact check here. They said it's a false internet rumor. Well, I mean, you can't believe everything. I can change the meeting for it, and we can do an electric slide porto, which is a big orgy. There you go, that's some fad, he told me. And let me see if this Macarena was about a girl with two like that, but a guy's friend with his friends with let's see, I don't know. See, I got to

make sure that's too. I think I was way too young to be listening to the Acali and put it in. All was like sevens and me to did you already eat me Alabia break through today? Until the dawn? I was a little girl like about that. Oh, it isn't about a girl that's cheating. A girl named Macarena who teats on her boyfriend with two friends while he's being drafted into the army. Damn, that's there. So she was

each hand, one for each guy. And you know that your head on my pillow by Tony, Tony, Tony, that's about a guy before Oh and just read you say that in the background. Just come sit right here, pretty bad. Do you guys play music during sex? Sometimes? Sometimes? Is it better? You think? With music? I like you do. I wish I was like yeah, and then sometimes I'm

going through like we got to stop. I don't like this song so right, like this song is a scraping my style, Like hold up, I'm like, I don't want to laugh to have like a whole story board for the routine in my playlist. So you're definitely I think it makes the better who talks crazier in the bedroom?

Me clearly right, crazy questions and don't let me not answer because then he's like, you know what, I'm just like damning, all right, yes, yes, yes, actually felt now you got to feel like I'm being in the moment though I can't get it out. So it's definitely you. That's crazy. I'm thinking that I'm looking at all these I'm looking at all these songs that I had no idea what they were about. All right, Now, couples have access to each other's passwords, Yeah, I mean I don't.

We don't we have excess to each other's passwords at this point? How did it? How long did it take to get to that point? And was there issues for it to get to that point? I mean I went through his phone a couple of times over the years we were looking for anything in particular. Not really, I think I'm just nosy by nature. So I am what's your I'm exagi serious all like, are you watching today?

Your surname? You're amazing understanding. She had her moments in time when she woke up great talking to the I don't. I don't to be honest, I don't think it should be a prerequisite to have people's passwords. I think it should be a choice of whether you're going to share passwords. So when did that choice happen, like for you to say okay, now, For me, I never I never hit

my password one she always could have access to. Yeah, we both have never hit pass It's like a mutual trust thing that I've broken like a couple of times. And for me, I never really wanted to be a liar or a cheater, even though I've had my moments who I've cheated, But I've always just wanted to tell her, like, yo, I really feel like I need to be do my thing a little bit because I just hate feeling like I'm a prisoner in my own home. Like I hate

feeling like, oh ship, let me you know. She may be coming out the shower so it's like, you know what I'm saying. When we were in college, sometimes like y'all need to go on a break. Why because we're not vibing sexually? Um, nineteen years old? I think I need to do some other things. So since we had that transparency and we talked about going on breaktuff like that, I never really felt like I had necessarily had my

password and stuff like that. But I do feel like if you go into somebody's phone, you break into the phone, that's invasion of privacy, Like you should not do that, right, I agree with that. You shouldn't. Have you ever looked at her phone? Never? Not once, like just no, I haven't. I've never. I mean, he's not gonna find it. And because you know, but you didn't look, you said, I remember when you had the phone was open? Oh yeah,

the phone was open. Yeah. We had an issue where I was like texting somebody inappropriately and he found it and he found it and I was on thet had to confront, you know, upfront about it. And it wasn't even I looked at the phone she had. She was. I was looking for actually a song to play, and I Google, I put in the search take you down from Chris Brown and then text messages popped up and said take you down something else. It was something crazy.

It was it's like messages that were like deleted from my phone and then you know, iPhone somewhere somebody class yeah, And I was like, I was like, yo, what the funk, Like, like what the fund is this? And she was just like, oh, well, he was going through whatever. And that's another thing. We've been very transparent. When I was going through my ship and she was going through our ship, it was like you know what, and then you got to be honest as a man to like, yeah, I was. I was

kind of distant. I'm not really surprised that you were having inappropriate conversations because I was being an asshole. So I still understand that people always want to know how do you recover in a relationship from cheating, because for some people it is hard, Like we keep on asking the questions over and over again. We want to know details. You think it's necessary to know details if someone cheating, Like I wanted to know what details. Yeah, it's an

vice versa. I feel like I needed to paint that picture in my mind, and so it never left my mind. After a while it did. But you know, I feel like I just needed to know for my own sanity because if not, I was going to keep wondering about what had happened or what possibly happened, you know, So I needed to know details and he did too. For me, I wanted to know how far it gotten because I need to know where, you know, where did I mess up?

For me, it's about self reflection. So it's like, if my girl went this far, my girl did this, why did she do that? And if this is the woman I want to spend the rest of my life with,

how can I prevent that from happening again. If I'm going something like I don't want to know it, then I'm really not trying to grow because realistically, when you with somebody and you know someone's trying to be with you, then you have to know that if they did something outside of the norm, it had to be something that you did, you know what I'm saying. Or if it's not something you did, she going through something that we need to discuss that and make a decision. If we're

not gonna be together, we're gonna be together. So for me, it was like I need to get all this information so I can find out what I want to do.

And we made choices to stay together. And yeah, I think it's always a choice involved because people ask about how you get as you know, infidelities or how do you get past those moments where you're not necessarily honest with each other, But I think giving each other the choice to decide that you want to be there and not making anything where you're putting up this facade or you're lying, and then people are trying to stay till we get together under these you know, false notions of

what's really happening. Um, that's where we really try to be as transparent as possible, Like this is about to break his heart, but I have to tell him what exactly happened, and vice versa. And right now I was like never like, I'm like, let me divote just right now in the room. I will be honest. Though you don't ever just get over it and never ever remember you have days where ship come up and you just

be like, fun, can't believe she did. Might just be mad like like that's just something that's bad or something will happen, and like like, for example, she hates calling me when she gets places like she's just not responsible like that. She'll be on the uber going to an event and I'll be like, yo, I told you to text me to make sure you're safe, and then you don't text me. You like what you're fucking texting people? Huh yeah? But homeboy, you you know what, it's seven

years there on your part too. When you decide to forgive somebody to stay with them, to like check yourself sometimes when you want to ask a million questions and when you're feeling a stair way. Sometimes it's more like you instead of flipping out on somebody and asking, you have to sometimes say, Okay, I said I was gonna stay. I need to at least make that effort and not give someone else your Time's so true, it's not every

day is a work in progress. I think with use two and even at the seventeen years, I think it's that much. It's easier and it's harder at the same time because we don't we get each other more now, um, and we have so much more invested at this point too. You know, we have three children. It's not the easiest thing to walk away from. But definitely trying to be um. It's honest, some people feel like che didn't can make

their relationship stronger. People that because sometimes you like take somebody for granted, and then when you realize that you could have lost everything because you cheated, or you go and and you and find that things are not better because sometimes we think that a different situation than when we're in could be better, and it makes you realize that you really want what you have. I can see

that that had happened with one of your friends. I won't say his name, but that happened where he had cheated and his wife found out and they got past it because she was like, wow, I really was just like completely ignoring. They both had like reflection, like he cheated, and then she looked at herself in him It's like, damn, like I can't even blame we didn't have sex in this long. I didn't do this. I'm never this, And she was like damn, like how could I be mad?

Like you're a good dude, and then him leaving and then being out there realizing that there was nobody out there. Yeah, he was just like, yo, let's make it work. So both of them have reflection on for that. Now, that don't mean you just encouraging, but that it can either break your relationship or you can have it make it stronger. Right, And so it does go out the way. You don't really know until you get through it or exactly, or you don't even know how you're gonna deal with it.

Everybody deals with it differently. Some people like, Okay, it's not a deal breaker. Some people are like, never get in life, And you're not wrong either way. What do you ladies think about cheating? You think I had that letting on myself. I think that cheating is very bad and I think that it just shouldn't be done. Um, period period. But um, you know, ship happens, And like Angela said, each relationship in each person, in each situation is different, and if you choose to stay or work

it out or whatever, then you know, so be it. Um. Me personally, I've been with the same person now for ten years. Um, we've broken up and gotten back together, and um there has been infidelity, so clearly we've been able to work it out. Um. But does it feel stronger now than it ever did before at this moment? Yes. Now. I've heard people ask about like breaks, Do people take these breaks because they want to go out and experience somebody else. We just when we were on break, we

were just like, wasn't I need a break? It was it was just like it was over. We had a couple of moments like that, words like you, and then it's like whatever happens at that time, it happened. Um. The two most uh you know the time the long length of breakups that we had happened twice when I actually moved out of our house. Um. The first time, I was out of the house for eight months, but within like three months we were back together. So that was like a little weird. It was like the fakest

breakup I remember. And then the second time was real. The second time, I was going for a year and a half and we were still in between that year and a half, Like I moved out, um, and before my mattress was on the bedframe, we was working on the floor on the mattress, So that's true. When I got the first time, we we didn't we were like, um, we were sleeping in separate rooms and for like four months and then so of course we weren't having any sex.

And before I pulled off in my U haul. The very first time I moved out before I pulled off in my we suck in the bathroom. So it's just but what about you, Stephani, your thoughts son cheating? Well, I have um I feel like this. I feel like if a girl cheats, she's damaged goods, it's it's no good no more. But a guy is a little stood put her than a woman, you know what I mean. So sometimes you have to forgive saying a guy can't

take a girl back after cheating. No, I mean, I don't mind saying, because everybody's situation is different, you know, But I just feel like, you know, for a woman to cheat, there's a lot more emotions involved, you know what I mean, Like we we're cheating. We're not cheating because we want to get funk, that we're horny like a man. Woman man is because he's not. It could be also that though it could be, but most of the time a man is cheating because this dick is

hard exactly the one here I'm not. I'm only here think Okay, women want monogamy, right, womanogamy? Do you know how hard it is for a man to try to be monogamous to a woman and then when he's ready to have sex, the women act like he's being like he like she's bothering him. Think about how that feels for a men. You want, you want monogamy for me, so I'm trying to be monogamous, but then when I ask you for sex, you act I can't bothering you.

Then when I don't like that's what That's what men go through, especially when you're in relationship for a long time. There's a lot of women who are just like, oh my god, you want to have sex again. It's like, yo, I'm trying to be everything to you and only give you this. This is what I need, and then you act like it's a bother and then when you have sex, it's like, fine, here take it. So now we have wack sex when we have sex, or you don't want to have sex and you expect me to live like that.

So then so the dudes like, you know what, I can't keep saying it because I don't want to bother her, So let me just go try to get it so I don't have to bother Then he get caught. Now he's the bad guy. What the funk are he got there? Though? But That's what I'm saying with guys, do you guys, and then men, you have you have to release the seamen. Men have to like, we don't have to calm. Girls don't have to come. If we don't come, they have to get the keep doing that if they don't release,

if you like yeah, like yeah yeah. Even if a man like guys on Ramadan, they have some fast, they can't jerk off, they can't have sex, they can't release. It's a mighty day. It's for a month. So imagine as a man not being able to release the nut for a month, you're gonna get sick. You're you're gonna

get sick. I'm saying, don't don't end up having a wet dream, you know, don't wait with the comment, yeah, will happen, But it's not a good feeling for a man, like we're talking about a sacrifice to God, like just God, no, no, I'm just just you bad And I'm just saying no, Like men don't talk about this because it sounds real weak,

but it's the truth. Yo. When you're trying to be everything for a woman and then you're trying to have sex with her and she's saying she's not in the mood, and then when she is in the mood she give you some half ass booty just to shut you off.

That should be whack to us, like like I'm trying to be monogamous with you, and you're making it seem like it's a big, big chore, like nobody want to deal with you know what's back to us though, When guys want to have sex but they don't want to like eat the pussy, put in some effort, that gets me in the mood a little because times they think they could just hey and come behind you, like when I'm washing the dishes, see this is walking up and to be hard, like how did you get here? All right?

How running around? How did you even mentally be able to get there? Did you know what it's like to walk by and see your woman washing dishes? You know what I'm saying? Real quick? You feel like, but I'm not gonna lie, like like I said in the morning when we're at home, like I'm the one like, come on, come on, let's let's go, let's do it, let's do it. But then weren't where I side. He's like, babe, like I'll you're doing something. He's like, babe, that mouth reminded

me and I don't be like you're perverted. It's like we're side you want it. It's so perverted. It's so girls. We're fickle, women are fickle. Man takes a little something about nature. We have to get wet, and that takes a little effect. That takes to that. We had that conversation in college what he did. I was like, Bro, you can't be bang bang bang like only test doctim raging because he just can't there and workouts and I'm like, bro, can you like laid me down? Yeah? Can I put

my head on right right right? And let's be like you know that conversation I had to you know, I was, I was nineteen, but you know what I've done sometimes Like sometimes I don't even know if he knows this, but you don't know now what I do sometimes because sometimes I come here and be like, yo, you mad wet, like you're so good. I just like watch porn or something or play with myself and go through separately to get myself already started, so that way I could just

I know he wants to just go for it. So I'm like I'm ready, I'm ready. Well let me tell you something I know that you do that so that's why I waiting for you. It's going come in step back in my see. That was always something that I would do when I knew that I was going to have sex with the guy for the first I would mass the bay first first, just go with the pussy arm maybe, like why I was just thinking about you baby on the way here, And that's why you don't

do that too, though. What you think is get the first one out. So we don't get the first one out just the first time you would have checked. Then you get about five six pumps and that she is terrible. But if she has her vagina titan, then if it's in the second round. Though, if it's on the second round, like I'm going on, I'm going from they don't even because it's none at that point. Then it's like he

was so funny too. Sometimes we'll be going at it and you'd be like, you're after that bus, that's not we're gonna do it again. You're gonna get it hard again. And after that night is bus, She's like sleep, they're going to sleep. I'll be like, rank God, I can roll over a little bit now. Because nobody wanted around to nobody wanted around to I'll be thinking about the

next time we have sex while we have sex. Damn, you've been playing a pitcher in your head, like yeah, I'm gonna do this crazy yeah, because I'd be like, I'll be like, damn, I'm about to not but i really wanted to flip her over, and I'll be saying something right before I'm about you about to make me come.

You're gonna you're gonna get it back up again, right, She was like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna do that as soon as that should come out least, she'd be like, I'm gonna get the wash rag, you know, wipe him up all that good stuff, the best any our kids ever. The kids come and get the wash rag or the rock counter. Yea. I love me so sorry. Sometimes I just take the wash right over the headboards and I'd

be like, I'll get it. He's gonna be like, oh, so that's what that's my mom like when your parents, right, that was my sister. My sister found my mom's right with like her vibrated buildo situations. Sorry, can look guys about right. Okay, So I was reading this article about Mobi. Right. He has a memoir out and in his memoir, he talks about having had a relationship with Natalie Portman. His book is called Then It Fell Apart. So he's saying that when she was twenty years old and he was

thirty three, he dated her briefly. She's saying it never happened in and that really she was eighteen, he was just a purv Okay, So uh, he did say Natalie's possible regret and dating me doesn't alter the actual effects of our brief romantic history. Is there something wrong with somebody telling who they dated when they do a memoir and not giving that person their heads up or maybe it's something that would happen so long ago you don't

want it brought back up. Um. I do think there's something wrong with that, because you always have to ask for someone's permission to use their likeness in any other business. Right, So if you're gonna use my likeness as in my name to sell to sell, first of all, I should receive a portion of that. Let's let's business number one. Number two is you should ask my permission just because

that's our story, that's not just your story. Like, there's no other part of business where you can use someone's name or likeness without them getting a percentage or getting permission document that in a document. Can't you do a documentary about someone even if they don't, you have to get waivers. They have to sign waivers and sign releases in order to do all of that stuff. Now we learned that in TV, Like when I do stuff at

the gym. Now, if I do an advertisement the gym, any kid or adult that's in the background, I got to give him a way from Yeah, and that's the case. He should blow her name out, But I mean, can't you give her an alias? Like in this I was trying to. He had a lot of backlash from that because it's illegal. She can sue him for that unless it's true. You can't really if it's true. Story is true.

If the story is true, she can't. Head did a whole book True True where she named all kinds of people and no one sued her, like she was fine, but she was also named in men. Yeah, and dudes really don't care about something. They're not going to call the cop. Yeah. Have you ever denied everybody that you've been with and been like, No, I didn't. No, I don't think I've been pretty upfront, although I wonder how I've heard of people who said they were with me

and I was like, who are you again? Like who are you? Or no, we were in you know what I mean, Like you've had that situation too. But I'm like, I don't care. You said we need together, all right? What we do? Like things, I don't really it happens, then they're gonna have to prove it. They're gonna have to prove it certain things. Just don't. I don't let it bother me. That would That would if someone was about to go on a book tour about with lies about ship that they said I I was. I was

with Defound while he was with Codine. I used to sit on his face. He made me sit on Damn you drink. Okay, you know we didn't um thinka not throw the excellent this question? I know, but you know where I ended up having a whole conversation and I feel like they kind of discussed both sides. Okay, that's true, Just let it slide. I just didn't want to get cursed out in the comments. You know how our listeners they listen to every little details. You didn't do that

right the next time, But that's cool. You guys keep doing Congrats on the new podcast that much. Thank you. We totally look look to you for inspiration sometimes and you know you've just been doing it for so long, so we've been breaking for me. In a voice from Brooklyn, you know I ain't gonna listen to your podcast before when I made my boys listen to it. Ye, we don't really get too nasty. You'll get to listen to I think I feel like y'all was kind of trying

to be respectful. Ye, you're married, but I have listened to your podcast before you learned listen. The only way you can learn about women is from women that we've listened to me Like, that's what they like, you know, trying to ship and the ship doesn't work. And it's interesting because so much of your lives out there already, right, so we don't want to be like repetitive. And sometimes there's new audiences, so we want to make sure people

have the backstory, you know. But I do feel like this platform is different because we don't speak to this level about our relationship. Because you know, certain things are only appropriate in certain arena. The people who are listening to this are listening for that, and we appreciate you

trying to be respectful of our marriage. But at the same time too, I feel like there's this stigma around marriage people in sex, like it don't exist, like it don't happen, like that exists, and I don't cute little video on Instagram or whatever. It's funny because I put up a video of the other day on my stories, and you know, I hadn't like a two piece little like panty and bra set for savage ex fanti or whatever. So I'm doing a little thing, put my music up

on it, you know, like we're doing Instagram. And somebody damned him the video and was like, you see your wife, you see what she's doing. What's And I was like he picked the song, Like what you mean? He was right exactly. I'm like, we're married, we're not dead, Like we're still human beings. We still should be sexy. We should be sexy for each other's sexiest individuals and all that. So we're always gonna be advocate for that. So amen, all right now I think we love it. Thank you,

thank you, We appreciate y'all. Yeah. Oh, last question, are you a swallower or a spitter? It depends on how much comments coming out, guys, he being on overload and I'm just like God again, it might be a little better at that time, depending and then he kind of liked the whole like drooled out my breast situation. So that should be so um. Not to interrupt you, guys, but here's another thing. I don't want to forget that we are having it on show. Oh yes, your nineteen

got by. I was gonna say, and you guys are coming up from right, give a little something to the crowd. Sure you would love y'all. That would be so dope nineteen. Absolutely we're gonna follow up. Please do the most sex and then we get a little bit more chee the show. Okay, we have to write feel it, put it in the cloud. I'm putting. I'm gonna get my cheerlead a skirt. You pull your sup and it goes the whole poorn meet problem meets cheerleader. There we go. All right, I love it,

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