What's up. It's a lift service. This is a really really special one. Yes. First of all, everybody's chatting before we even tearing the mics on. I mean, but I'm Angela ye MacGuire, Oh, I mean Stephanie hold off. No, no, we're not gonna start her lover, and see what I mean. We wanted her to hold up because especially because I'm Luria and guests, who's back to actually be on lift
service because she's been away for so long. I'm here, everybody's asking used to saying my name after I know and it's been seven months and me saying it it's not seven months. I've only been in l a for four months, okay seven to number. And speaking of people coming back, we got Lloyd here as well, special guests and just how we like, we love motherfucker it to it like this. It's not it's gonna be fine. You know,
you get tricky. We have the guitar, take off the clothes and when you come in here naked, this is false advertisement. That's what I thought we was getting good going on. We thought he was getting naked Lloyd. But I do think people should be able to walk around like that. Listen me to for real, I'm naked all the time. I can't make it out. People do really high behind a lot of ship a lot. And now that I'm thinking about it, this morning, I was having a dream that I was naked in the street. Yeah,
yeah you should. You should live your dreams. I will say this, though, I do think sometimes if we could all be naked, I think maybe we would know what we're getting into. That's a fact. There's a show Dating Dating. Yeah, I had a dream about being on there once. Really I did an album shoot ever with you? I agree with you because if I was on Dating naked, I could tell you right away if I was with you
or not. That's not fair for guys. I'm getting some guys that actually growers and our showers, so we might think we're getting something, but then bang. Or he might be a female with your period. What happens when you got your period? Not a do it? Some guys dicks like really small until they get hard, right Like it's a grower maybe maybe, but you can't help us anyway. I'm saying grower, not a shower. You never heard that expression. He's a growing but I have now though your large
shower clearly he's a shower. He don't need to grow. Some people need to grow. Were you winning out grower? Is it five to or is it fine? Is it the size of the guitar for years? We're fine? What's tell us now? I don't think I could tell you about me like that. I think you have to ask somebody I was with. That's what we want to know. Who can we ask? Because you are very private, private and secretive. You ain't been linked. Anybody's hit it with Lloyd. Hit us up right now, let us know. It's he
a grower or it's her shower. I don't want my baby, mom. Now, that's that's nice. River River. That's your son's name? My son? How old is he? He's eleven months, he'll be a little little boy. I'm expecting my second to it's like a son or second we don't know. We don't delivery. And then like that pig two names with your son. Yeah nice, you're not gonna have one of those fancy gender revealed parties. Put blue chem trails in the sky. But yeah, what do you buy? Do you buy like
yellow clothes for them to come? Now in the fact, it's dope because you end up not getting a lot of clothes. You get more to other ships. You really need the smartest thing you could clothes, you know, I learned fast ship. They don't happen. And he's never wearing newborn size ever. My son and my son is, he's a big guy. He's a big baby. Eight month right exactly. He's wearing eighteen or twenty four months right now and
he's eleven months. That's how my son was. Boys are like my man, Yes I am, but yeah, but I'm expecting my second now. And what's funny is I was there for the birth to help with the delivery, you know, and it really let me see her in a different light for real. I mean I encourage and having a child to at least experience. I looked at everything, but I'm like that though I want to see what's going on. I tried to record he was you know, it's crazy,
but like this is very personal on the table. But right after, I mean even during, I was saying to myself, I'm never going to touch this bitch again. That's why I never look for her again. Like we could just be co parents. That's the thing now, you know what, I and just be party, never doing this ship ever again, and then it was like it was like it was like two weeks later and that damn little pouch start going down a little bit with some little started looking
back to normal. So you forgot about but you have to wait a little while. I was supposed to wait three weeks. Yeah, I think I waited like three weeks in a day, okay, yeah, yeah for me and my son's father when we he looked at it right and he's like, you know, like he's just like, oh my god, like I'm sorry that that happens to your pussy. And I'm like, yo, like it's not a big deal, like
what happened, Like it's a human thing. But then my sister showed me the video of it, and I was like, how you I got so mad at him, like you're really gonna look at me like that? How dare you stare at that? I was, But I would say, this, man, it's like a totally different it's a totally different appreciation
of what it means. Yeah, a woman for real, you know what I mean, Like on so many levels, and just to see what chalk endure, you know what I mean, like childbirth of course, but even just on a day to day basis, I don't think a lot of dudes could be a woman, you know what I mean. It's just and when she was pregnant, I will always she would be complaining about certain stuff, you know, and I said, oh man, you know what I always say, Serena Williams one the goddamn women. You can do it. You could
do it. You can everybody, Serena Williams you're talking about. But because I was your feel that's somebody. But even that. But I'm like that thought. That's why That's what makes me a good art musician too, though, is I'm always like we like they say nothing, you could do it, you could do it, you could do more, you do more, do more. But it should have been like, well Michael Jackson waiting time, but what's what up? But but I'm the kind of first and that probably would have motivated me.
Not Michael Jackson did that would have motivated me. Now with child you know, with child birth, that's probably just suck up, like it was just taking up. Yeah, that's would I feel like taking a chap, Yeah, because times have paid it and they feel like something dude taking ship. Giving the birth that happens that happens. She must happened to me real, everything's coming out of it, everything's coming out for real, and they had to put a sucking
oxygen mask on. He almost died. And you're not even the one almost missed what happened? Please, you might have been like, Serena didn't pass out. Movie happens in the movie. But I was going to say that in the movie, the man always passes out and they'd be in a wheelchair pass out. But you will say this though, it's like snap back. She don't believed. No, she didn't breastfeed, okay, because I know they said that. She said that was more painful than it was to me to kid. Yeah,
but you see, every woman is different. Because I don't agree. I don't feel like giving birth feels like you're constipated. Ship ship. I felt like when she came out, I just felt like it was such a relief, like the same feel when you got a guy. That doesn't sound too bad to me. That's that's where great girls don't take a ship. I feel like a new person. I had a new person. I love that about taking this ship. The more they spank no, no, you spent so much
time trying to squeeze that ship in the public. Just start rotting in there and ship man, and once that ship ain't healthy, man, just let this ship out. I don't know what girls, because girls don't like to fart in public, anyone. Why did Why did? My stepdad used to say, that's unladylike, I don't know what I mean. I think it's so natural, Like what the fun else? You're supposed to act like? It wasn't you exactly? They came in here now before I leave, have you ever
gone to pee and shipped by accident? Shart me too crazy? Before I was just dropping lemonade. Oh yeah, and then you got to do an EPs and salt at the end of the day. It's supposed to help you flush it. And that ship actually backfired for me and I'm throwing up. Now that's a detox every It seems like it was like throwing up in between your legs. Now, I just let the ship go. It just over there, you okay, got it? And throw up this ship on the you
know facts, Yeah, yeah, I rather do that. G Before we started, you said, y'all know we had it from magic, Well not really personally, but I have been an eight shift time man, I love g man. In fact, I actually compare everybody I ever see at a gentleman's club was actually it's actually home girls with my home girl Helen. Yes. Right, So that's how I kind of got put onto the first times actually going to a strip club when you dance for me, right. The first time I went, I
was in St. Louis. I was with my part of Tea Love who came up with Nellie. He took me to this place called Bottoms up on the East Side. On the East Side, they do this thing and they was like, oh, they're gonna make you feel like royalty.
And they came in there and they said, we're gonna do roll call, right, so they did roll CARDI bro all the girls out, introduced all the girls, and all the girls make their way around the club and do something for each person and then you give him something and the next girl come same thing, and it was like, you know, all the girls was cool. And then this one ship came up there and they said baby girl. She was the feature and she was pregnant like a month.
She was like six months pregnant, some showing and I was like, oh my god, the baby girl she was the feature and came and did some poetry and and then made some stuff. But she was pregnant, y'all. Na man, yeah, I was just like, wow, me up. I gave her something, I said, get the baby something, and then and then and then. So the first time I went in Atlanta was Magic City, right, I think it was. I don't know if it was a Monday or not, but losing
that mother, so it probably wasn't. It was because she was the best, and Helen was like, we're gonna see my girl. She dope and me and Helen we both used to dance together when she was so so when we go to the club, we was looking at the talent like we're looking at the beast mode type of we ain't really looking at It's like, yo, fucking she dopest ship type of ship. And we went and g came. She did a fucking thing just for us. The club
was fucking packed. It was crazy in there, and she came and just danced for us for a good second. And I fucking spent all my Christmas and I didn't. I went home. I was like, man, what then against my family? Like iired, I was so inspired on the time I ever did that with the first time I went to an all black church because I grew up Catholic from New Orleans. The first time I went to all black church, and then people were passing out of ship.
Now I gave all the money I had. My said, it was really the only other time my spirit was moved so much. And then and then so I'm like, you know, she was like the homie, so I probably was doing some sh it I wasn't supposed to do and she wasn't tripping. But another time I went, I went to a spot I went to a one time anybody was talking about honest. So I'm in there and I got about you know, I'm not I'm a cheap,
real cheap person. So I spent the thousand. I had a thousand to spin, and that's a lot for me because I'm like, I'm not getting that back right, So so I'm like, I'm gonna just have it. It's gonna look all right, just in case maybe my brother might want to do something. We're gonna just do this. So I'm getting there, the girl is dancing for me, and I'm like thinking, I'm in the fucking music video. So I'm just right out of the money on the floor
at the end of the thing. So and then I also noticed that some of the money was kind of flying. So another girl came over there was oh this me too. Oh wait, man, this ship side of control. Right. So then at the end that the girl says, okay, now you owe me such and such and such, and said, I got the same face got on right now for right. He's like, no matter how long she was, could have
been up for two seconds. The money I had spent on the floor for the dance, right, she says, no, No, the money that you're throw on the floor is tips. Oh she tried, you, she said. She said she was trying to get somebody get show money and you know, dances. I said, look, if you said you don't pick that ship up right now, I said, that's everything right there for you mother. Right, she tried to try to try. She tried to that more than technically, it's ten dollars
a song. So if she was over there, right, So, if she was over there for ten songs, that's a hundred dollars. You ain't pay a thousand dollars. But I gave him more than just a dance. But me, that's how we do that or at least at magic. That's how we did the equation, like ten dollars a song. If I feel like I ain't got enough for ten dollars home, then I'm gonna say, all right, well dota. But if if it's a pile of money on the floor,
then I'm gonna take that and keep it. And she's kind of mad at somebody only gave you ten dollars to but yeah, we got that. Yeah, but got the point that he sat he was cheap. It was probably fifty dollars. Lloyd says, he said dollars and one so's it's a hundred dollars band. So even if he popped the hunted band on it, that's ten songs that she danced tonight. That's why I said, how long was she over there? Man? When I was a shupper back in the days of dance was like a different kind of strip.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the resident hood. We're talking about the hood d club. Yeah, I wasn't the caucasion. A whole different world. So gentlemen's clubs is forty dollars dance, and they're different all over the world. It's differently because even you know in Australia the currencies and coins. So you can have a two dollar coin x amount of dollar like a five dollar coin and some ship. So what you gotta do is you gotta pay for like the dances in advance. You gotta get like a bundle.
You can't be throwing a coin, you can't. You can't do that. You put in ashole like one credit. A lot of club etiquette going. Now let me ask you. Let's back up a little bit though, so how did you manage to get locked down? Because now you're in a committed relationship, a second child on the way. So what made this woman special? I realized less is more, to be honest, and I've lived in my life like a tourist, you know what I mean. Like when I first came into game, I was just I want to
just savage mode. I fucking want to be everywhere. I want to do everything. Nobody's gonna tell me nothing. I don't have to live by these rules that you know, society puts on me and all this kind of ship. And then I also had a little bit of power and influence, so I think just naturally, you know, just you know, jumping off the porch for the first time, I just pretty much existed like a tourist. I come through,
I break some ship and then the fun. Yeah. And then the older I got, the more attached I started becoming the things that just meant way more than that to me, you know, Like the first the first catalyst I think was my niece when she was born, and I was there for that, helping my sister through medical school, and then I was I took my sister to get her last meal. I was there with my niece, and I remember like how she just would look at me.
You know. Sometimes when she would get older, the first thing she would do is she would run in my room. She said, oh a lot like wake up, wake up, let's dance because I gotta. I got a turntable in my room where I played my vinyl and we put music on and we just start getting down, she laughing, and I love you so much that she said, come hugging me. And then I was like, you know what every woman I ever been with is this starts off
as this, you know what I'm saying. And then I also realized that a lot of the girls that I was with, it wasn't really they fault that they were kind of I don't want to say being taken advantage of, but that just that they didn't look at it like that, you know what I mean, that they was okay with a lot of ship, because a lot of ship stems back to a lot of things, you know, and there or somebody might have been too strict on you or not there enough, or you know, you might have been
taking advantage of when you was young girls, just all these things that go into the makings of a person. So the all yere I got, the more I start trying to understand that, like the why behind things, and it just eliminated that tourist aspect out of my life. So then I started to just appreciate people, like really seeing a person for who they was, maybe what they've been through that I never understood, you know what I mean. And then from there it was just like I kind
of lost the desire to to be that anymore. And savage, yeah, just yeah, pretty much to be selfish really in a in a sense. And um, I also think that, um it was easier easier for me once I curved out other temptation in my life because a lot of things are temptation for us, you know, what I mean, and they kind of like are representative of each other. So my first thing was was food. My first thing was to take the temptation of food out because I fucking
love food and I eat food for satisfaction. I don't eat it for nourishing. I eat it because I craving. I wanted, I desire it, and I could get it when I wanted. You became a vegan, so I became a vegetarian, and a vegan. I was going in and out, you know, depending on depending on what was going on and um, and that actually ended up taking most of my time and energy, and then it started to trickle out in other aspects of my life. So then I was like, yo, you know what, I want everyone around
me to be like that. I want everybody around me to value they ship, to have respect for each other, to you know, that kind of thing. And then it just that ship became my music, my life, my everything. Me and Lloyd had the same bad things exact same day. But the reason I was going to say that was because a lot of times, if you guys and my friends that know me know, I always had to explain like why people activate the act and sometimes I don't
take things for face value. Like I look at somebody and my friends will be like, well, how could you be cool with that person? And how are you okay? And I'm always like, well, I can kind of understand why that person did that, because if I look at you know, certain things that happened in their life, or how they might view things differently than me than I actually feel like sympathy toward somebody, even if they did something sucked up to me, it usually better understanding. And
and let me tell you this too. This was this was like the biggest thing for me. It was okay. At one point in my life, I was in love with three women. There were three women in my life, and I was in love with different parts of each one of them, and so in my mind, I was bringing all of them together to make one person, right, But really I was really what I was doing was I was selling myself short because I was never really able to get a full experience out of a relationship, right,
So he was dividing it up. Yes. So then what ended up happening was I started to become afraid, hesitant about just one one person because I knew no one person can be everything for you all the time. But really, once you get to a point where you're not even looking for that from a person, I think you kind of start moving towards being able to be with them for extending amount of time. Right, And my theory was like dumb shit, like, yo, I don't want to eat pizza every day to say that, I used to say
that a lot. I get that just the fact that I understand, just the fact that I could traveled so much, I get to see so much, and I really experienced I'm still experiencing ship, you know, like, and then all the women in my life they gangsters, my mama, gangster gangsters, Like they all say, don't trust these holes, don't don't move too fast, live your life, you know what I mean? And they really don't like nobody, you know what I'm So it was like, damn, you know, well, I can't
trust nothing, all the holes, I can't trust them. Right. But then what end up happening was because I started to value like the process of getting to a place that I needed to be, right, Like with my vegetarianism. It was so hard for me sometimes, but I just convinced myself for the reward and then I just started working at it, and and then it became manageable. And
I looked at a relationship like that. I was like, you know what, instead of instead of looking at a person and seeing all the ship that they missing or the ship that fucking fox like piss you off what I'm saying, like that kind of ship, just kind of maybe take a second to understand that they didn't have the same life as you in a lot of ways. Right, It's certain things that make them who they are, and why not be the person that helps to guide them.
I mean, I would never be here if it wasn't for some motherfucker that was sitting in the room with me when I sucked, you know what I'm saying over and over and over and just loved me so unconditionally that they was like, you still got something that is special and we're gonna find it. You know. They didn't write me off. I mean, and I really like started to look at it like that, and then it was like, you know what, how dare me right off? This person
who actually loves me? And my girl loved me, She really really loved me. She accepted, she knew I wasn't perfect, she knew I was still conflicted, but she was like, you know what, I'm gonna just support him. I'm gonna stay down with him. I'm gonna give him love when he needed, and I'm I'm gonna I'm not gonna stand for no bullshit. But I'm also not going to impose myself so much that I want to change him or
make him someone else. She was like, she loved me, I really knew how to love myself, and I once I, once I realized that she was, I would be I would be this. It would be such a tragedy for me to write this off. So what I did was
I just committed myself, just committed myself. I said, no matter how piste off I get, inpatient I get, no matter how much my A D D kick in, no matter how much temptation I'm faced with, I'm gonna see it through because I think that at the end of the day, even if some ship don't fucking work, which is very very much a chance, at least you say you try, unless you say I gave the effort. I did everything I could, everything right, And that's just kind
of where I'm at with it. Something that happened specifically that made you say Okay, now I'm going to be committed. I got caught. Well that's not why, no, no, no, let me tell you, yes, but let me tell you what happened. Though. There was a girl that that that liked me a lot. She actually loved me, but I didn't love her, and I knew that right and it was just really like good sex. She just knew herself. She was older than my girl. She kind of knew
herself a lot more. She was more like comfortable and confident in the bed. And to me, I always was like, I don't know, infatuated with older women growing up. So it's like I don't know. I just kind of couldn't get away from it. And one time we was we was together and she goes to me, she says, I love you, and I said, okay, this is a moment for me right now to really fucking like live honest, right, just really really be honest, even if I'm conflicted, at
least be honest. I never lied about my ship, but I said, you know what, I don't love you. I said, I said, for real, I don't love you like that. I got love for you, but I'm not I don't love you like that. I don't love you, and I never will love you like never I said, I love someone else, like I said, I said, to be honest, I love somebody else. How did she react? She got mad. She got mad when she got mad, And I understand that.
I see in my mind, I thought you would respect at least I honestly hurt so sometimes, and you're gonna be at least if you could be honest. I respect it coming from you now. But I said, I just said, I don't love you, but I don't love you like that. And so what she ended up doing what she made it her life's mission to find my girl and tell her that, oh I was with him and and this and this and this and that, and to me, I said, you know what, I talked to my girl, right, she
was devastated. She was devastated, and that hurt me. And I realized that I really really cared, you know what I mean, Like just the pain she felt brought me so much pain. Right And on top of that, I thought her, I thought that, you know what, this girl who I don't love is so hurt that she is willing to make it her life's mission to destroy the one thing that I do a company that I really do actually care about, you know what I mean? And I'm like, you know, and you know what I'm like,
You know what, People hurt. People hurt. People hurt people. And I stood where why she was doing it. It wasn't because she didn't want It was because she didn't want me to be happy that she wasn't right. And you know what she said, she loved you, and she did not love you because if she loved you, she would want you to be happy with a person was going through some ship with speaking because you was there. Man, Look, I don't blame her, but I do I do know this.
I do know this. I do know that. I think in any real, true, happy and long term relationship or marriage, there is going to come a time where nature plays his course right at some point we're going to become lustful, or very or or or just sway a little bit, you know what I mean. We're going to make a stumble. And I think a real true love is a person that sees the flaw in the person as not definitive of a long term a something that can be learned from a lesson. And that's what my girl did for me.
She really liked was like, you know what this is, this I'm going to treat this like the biggest lesson, Like that's not I can't go through this again. She's just like I can't even I can't take that ship no more. But I know what your heart is at. I really know that you actually are changing a lot of things in your life for me that you never had to do before. You know what I mean, You've been lawless all these years, and I know how kind
of traumatic that can feel. You're fighting, you're holding on to some ship, you know what I mean, And I know you gotta get it out, but let this be our Like you said you she she loves you for you, with your flaws and everything, all your mistakes. She still accepts you. That's the way you're supposed to love somebody. And this is my question. I also think you would
be surprised. But with a lot of married couples go through right, really about accepting a compermind, Mary, friends be having the most issues, but you know, if you write it out, you got to write it out till they gets better. But everybody goes to the question alone. So what about door number three? We heard the girl in the group she killed herself the girl he's not actually the third girl. Actually, um, she cut me off, okay, because because she started to realize she ain't the one.
She got it to realize, nig you ain't. You don't want to I want not that she wasn't the one. But she was just like, you're not where I'm at right now, right, let's just be cool. She was like, let's just be cool, dog, like, you have a question. Have a lot of females don't do that. They just be on like really to really, to be honest, the girl that's that fucked me up wasn't one of my three loves, my other third love. She I mean, it's like I just I just had to make it. I
just had to make a decision. Man, just man, just no, I had to make a decision. It was just like you know, other man't like that, I have a question. She was way on the other side of the world, and it was totally like a long distance No, it wasn't the FaceTime thing. It was just it wasn't like every day in my vicinity. And I really built such a bond and friendship because with my now that it
was like you know what, I'm good, I'm just not. Yeah, but that was that I've been trying to question for minutes. I've been trying to I forgot you said, No, I did not forget it, because it's really important to me. It's very interesting to hear a man talk like this. It's like a dream, you know what I'm Men don't fit. The men are not started to show so different. Man don't. But man, you know, men don't really. It takes a while for them to get if they ever get to
that place in their mind. So you said that you learned to look at people and see them for exactly who they are. How long did it take for you to get there? When when did that happen for you? Well? Like what age? Oh? Well, and well in to my my mid late twenties, late twenties, mid twenties. But again, you gotta remember, I've been I've been releasing an album since I was sixteens, so you're late twenties, like your early third Like I've been like that since I was
a teenager. Women are what I feel like, right, I feel like men don't do that. I feel like men don't do that right, and we know why. And I also feel like women don't do this I feel like women don't take Okay, this is what I saw y'all having a conversation about not too long ago. This is what I believe a lot of men feel, and even some women, that sex is not always representative of love.
Sometimes it's just the act, like an exercise. Sometimes it's a release, it's a it's just a letting go at ways and sometimes and sometimes I think men can justify just sex with a person and and still save their love and their heart for somewhere else. Confused the two, that's exactly. And for some strange reason, I think traditionally people they cringe at that notion. But I think, really it's kind of unnatural to be with one person forever. I mean, not a lot of creatures in God's kingdom
don't mate with the same thing. Some do your owls, but I'm not a wait wait, wait, wait, wait, boyfriend and girlfriend they get married, I had no idea. I think it's great when you can get I think everybody can get to that place. But some people are different. Everybody's unique, right. Some marriages are held together by an open mind, right, someone that knows, Okay, my my partner is a little freaky, like to experiment and that brings them a certain kind of joy. So maybe I'll bring
in a partner, a friend. That's when the three stiff comes in, you know, just for them. Look at that makes some people cringe, and that keeps some people together. It's about being honest, though, and for real, I think that's really where I'm at with it. It's like I just started being honest. So can you be monogamous? You think from now moving forward on? It's a challenge, But I think I could do it because is I'm satisfied. I don't need to. I don't need nothing else to
be honest. Like y'all said, it's the honesty thing, because what it is is guys will do what they want to do, but they'll lie about it. So if you have three girls like you, but you said you have three girls, if you're only fucking too, you're gonna tell all three and that thing. And my girls so dope that if it's something that I really need her to do for me, she'll do it. She'll try it. She'd be like, all right, let's do it, let's try it. If you want to do it, let's do it. She's
not gonna be like I just don't like that. I'm not doing that. Don't bring that over here kind of thing. Some things that don't get her that don't do it for But if it's something that I might need, she's definitely gonna do it. What would you be willing to do that for her? If she needed something? Depends? Ain't keep stick my tongue and nobody asked me. I can't do it anyway so much that I'm so glad that
you got. Hey, look but we could got them getting goddamn we could wet some ship and did you right? Did I ever try it? No? No, the shower try like ya gotta do that ship every day or not? Eating nobody ass yo, never listen, that's for boys to do anything. No, it's not. Well. Look, I'm so open. I'm like, get the nick, get the nigger to eat it, and that just be his wrong. No, you pa I so much. It was so good, But I got that's alright. I'm not gonna lie. You just disappointed us with that
one man. I can't don't you didn't try it? You know what I think it would have to be like she have you have to sit your ass in the thing like a what is it called a sterilizer. No, but you're not missing anything that's for boys. As eating there's no pleasure for women. It's for boys. That's a pleasure for a man like it? Well, No, I actually don't like. But you're trying to like. It's more like when. But I also feel like if a woman wants you to do it, and you're willing, and she's willing to
do anything for you, that you should try it. What I will say, it's nothing. It's nothing more exciting than a woman that knows herself for real in in every way but especially sexually, you know, like knows her body, knows what she needs. So I think, because I'm such a selfless lover, if oh god, he's he's really never gonna eat because I was almost you know what, I have been getting there that like. But I mean because anything that she would need to get there, I would
be open for it. But I don't see the I don't see the thrill in that, and in fact, and in fact it excites me to excite my partner right like when I snow they enjoying it, they're getting it makes me. It makes me so like But my life, I don't think I could find any excitement from eating some ass. But you also don't know. You're just saying, I don't think and I don't know, right, and I don't know. But I also thought I would also thought
I would never eat pussy as a brad. I mean, you know, growing up, you know, growing up it was like tabooty eat pussy, but it was like eating no pussy. That's you know, I don't eat pussy. That's what we always go down south. That's what y'all known for. Absolutely. But I'm just saying that, remember the first time. I'm just saying at one point, yeah, I never heard that before.
Who just felt like him? DJ Kalin and like somebody that has experienced is the only people I've ever heard to say that having your first eating experience, my first, um, okay, she gets you to do it since you didn't think. In fact, it was this girl that was from from my school. I had always liked that she had never paid me attention, and then I blew up and she was like what you're doing? Like what you're doing? You
know what I'm saying. And she came through one day and this is like the five Heart pizza and I'm like, I'm like, okay, I really liked her though, so I was like, all right, I'm an impressor. I'm gonna trying to really do so I'm gonna do something nice for I was like sev seventeen and so yeah. So I went down there and I looked at it and that's it. Okay, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do this ship right now. Here we go, Here we go, Here we go, Here we go, Here we go, here we go. And I
got up to the place. No, everyone's trash. He was like, and I heard she said, was saying again shorty, and then you wrote the song. It was just bad. Know what I was doing, man, I don't know what I was doing. She did, Okay, let me tell you, let me tell you the real story. And then somebody I was with, right, one of my one of my my homies was with me and he saw me. We was in the livingroom. Yeah, he was open in the room. So I'm pretending like I know what I'm doing, right,
and he fucking comes over there. He's like, you know, I got it when you were eating it right, party was going on here, damn party. Wait wait this that's just like I mean, she just started doing Christ and I was like, God, damn, I guess I just played with the man. That ship broke my heart so bad. Love that bit, right, that was the last time you go, man? And now I can understand what he means when he talks about why he would allow someone else to come here.
This makes sense. You got to call him a party like that regular sexual experience that was a whole okay, so when you come so right, So when you come from really crazy experiences for some of your first time, it's hard to should hard to turn down some time you should have her. But with her like we're hearing that you have to go, but right, they say, we got question. Okay, now, we didn't want you to leave. That's the one thing I wanted to say on this. We got that part too. Why is it so hard
for someone to be a friend with the ex? I don't have any problem with that? Why is that so hard? Friends with my son's father though we have a child. All of my other exes like we're cool. But I think the problem is if it's a person and fun them. But I'm just saying if it actually was a good person, y'all was friends first and then it didn't work. Out
because that's how she is. How come girls just they do not like you to be talking about I tell you why, because that's somebody that you had a relationship and you have. She gave me the pussy before you again, she will give again. That don't necessarily mean and I have Okay, this is my this is my this is my problem with that. You can't give somebody pussy that don't take the pussy? Have you ever though? Never? Why? I have never? I have never sucked some pussy that
I did not want to fuck anymore? You about that period in the store acting my reason I have. I have what I'm saying here, I have a reason. I have a reason so here, and I have an ex that we were. We grew up together. We were we were like best friends, even like we rode together, like you know, like this is my my boy. We slept together one time we were kids and we stood friends. Never slept together again, and then we ended up having
a relationship in our adult years. Right, something similar? Right? So um, I feel bad. You know he and I would not ever be together again. I wish him luck. I pray for him and his family and everything. You know, God bless him. I don't have no beef for them. But um, I feel like me being friends with him is encouraging him to write me no, no, no, I feel like I feel like me being friends with him is disrespectful to his situation and that he has because
he has a girl for he has a wife. He has a wife now who who knows about our relationship and was not you know, she was fine with us being friends back in the days because they have they work together for a long time and then they broke up and we had a relationship, you know what I mean, Because that's really it's confusing though, because look, this is
what I think. I think real true happiness is being so comfortable in your own skin that you'd never ever uh project your insecurity on to someone else, right, And then it's so easy for someone to do. And this is my thing. If you have everything with the person who you love and and nothing, nothing's going on, it's really nothing to worry about for real, then really all you're doing is you're projecting your own and and fear
causes distress your relationships. And if people could let go of that fear ship, write the insecurity ship and just be accepted that look I'm never gonna always be there, right, I'm never gonna always know everything in real time. But I trust, I have trust. I have trust and I lived through trust. And if you could do that, I think people could be so much more happy. But but your situation, that sounds great, But how your relationship started was a hurtful thing. It didn't start like that. It
didn't start you know what I'm saying. But for you know, she found out, you know, you got understanding. So she's still sometimes even though she's moved past it, it still is something that every now and then you might think about. And secondly, I also feel like if you respect your relationship, sometimes you do have to make sacrifices. And if that sacrifice means that I can't be as tight with my ex as I would like, but every now and then I'll send a text on a birthday maybe you know whatever.
But sometimes in a relationship, if you wanted to work, you do have to make sense. And it's because of
what you have done. Like she said, you know what I'm saying that I just I just feel like, you know, as much as as much as the world, I feel like it's in a perfect world, it would be great for me to be friends with this guy that was my childhood friend, and I'm still friends with everybody else that we're friends with, but you know, just to respect myself and respect him at his situation and that cause
no conflict in his family or anything. It's just like, no, we can't even be cool, like not even be like up type of friends because she makes a lot of sacrifices. Feel you just feel like it's a sacrifice. I always feel like and I love him and he loves me and they but it's not in love. It's you know, we love each other like yo, min like I know,
I know. I just feel like everybody's been with everybody and you know, and for real, it's like it still it's not Trump, that's still whoever you was with whenever.
That don't trump what you got going on right now, that's what especially if you honest and real with that person, you know, but you do anything to please you right and try anything, so well almost that's likewise, it's a compromise, like you said, the women out there that would do anything to deal with you or to be around you, or to work with you, and not that she has to always maybe she just needs to be reassured. Sometimes
it's not. It is. It's a lot. It's hard. That's also a slight on my my ability to control myself. It's like, I don't care who's throwing anything. If I'm not catching it, nothing can happen. Nobody's holding me down and making me like it's got to be bullet parties. But I'm not, like, I know you have a lot of guys. I know you have to see a lot of it. And this is also the issue that she brought up. She said, she said, well, how would you feel if I was real cool with all my exit right?
And I said, I wouldn't have a problem with at because I'm so comfortable. That's what she's confident in myself. What if I truly feel like none of them are me? Not to slight them, just more comfortable, Manique, with what I'm offering here in certain things that I'm not really tripping off of that give you everything all the time. Earlier, you just said that people trip up sometimes. You did say that she's trying to prevent those us. Oh, just so to prevent the trip trip up, you gotta lock
yourself in the room. But what I'm saying, I might feel like your ex still has feelings for you, and you never know, you don't really drink a last she might give you a little Hennessey or something and the next thing, you know, but not the first time, because what did he do. I'm just coming from because my listen. Let's say you guys, when I'm dating somebody, I feel like they can go and be around any women. It doesn't matter because she not me. That's you're a jealous person.
You know. I used to be on some ship that I didn't want my man to even have girlfriends, friends. Friend I used to be, and I was exactly who I was, especially even talking about the last guy. I was, that guy I was talking about when I was with him, with him, please, I couldn't stand even looking at a girl say hi to him. But right now, you know I I moved forward to dating you know, higher profile guys, and they are constantly around women all the time. You know,
it's inevitable. You can't stop it, you know. And I'm not talking about regular women. I'm talking about beautiful women all the time, you know what I'm saying. And their horrors, they're like literally throwing their leg up to see him. You know what I'm saying, but it's like for me, it's like not he's always gonna come over here because I'm me, my girl to spend time with my publicist sometimes, right, who is she one in the morning. I'm like, she
had California. That's just simply lemonade. I want to thank you so much. I've been on I've been I live in l A now and like, no, no, no, I'm not trying to wrap it up now, you're not. She's like, hey, the publicists are talking about wrapping up, you know, but I just want to thank you because I've been away for a couple of months and this conversation it was. It's hopeful it gives because I just feel like everybody I just doesn't see me for the person that I am.
They see me for the Stephanie Santiago thought on the internet, even though I don't even feel like I portrayed that, but that's what they see anyway. You know, you can't control people's perception of you. They're gonna feel how they want about you. Just got to do that. I really, I've just been lately. I've just been like, you know what, people don't see me for who I am and it
just is what it is. But your conversation, thank you, say come Stephanie's very happy to be here back when it is it full LP Dropping comes out Friday, August thirty one. It features my son for the first time called Affinity that I wrote after he was born. Got a song called Porcelain that's one of my favorites that I wrote about my girl. Uh, it's just like porcelain
Caramel is about her too. Um. Also have a song called Little Sis That's Dope that I wrote about my baby sister that passed in ninety two and how I just kind of had to come to copes with some things now that I became a father, maybe losing a child, what that could have been like from my mom, all that kind of stuff I'm I'm facing now And of course true the least single is there too. So it's like a therapy album. It's just so, it's just so
it's just like a reflection of the human experience. It's a celebration of you know, reality, like instead of escapism and fantasy, is like moving towards the truth. So I'm happy that you are back in doing I know you put out the EP, but I'm really happy because you know, we're all fans of Lloyd here for such a long time, and I know you've been through a lot of things, as you've expressed in your music, so it's just good to him. Next time, bring the guitar. That's next time
dropped them draws. Yeah, you guys are fast for me. I don't even know what there's all right, I'll do it right now, everybody. Y'all got double standing, I don't. You got your Christmas money ready? Let service
