Episode 12 Ft. Julia Beverly

We learned a lot of things about pimps and hose and escorting and all of that. Very educational. Check it out. What's up is Angela? Ye, it's lip Service. I'm Stephanie Santiago, I'm g McGuire, gez bag. I missed you guys, and we got special guests with us today. We got Julia Beverly, We have Jada. Hey. Now this is big because, as you can see, Julia's book is up here. You did this pim C biography right. Julia is also a good friend of us. We loved Julia right, she started Ozone magazine,

which was a big deal. And you're a photographer. Yes, she's a boss. She's an amazing photographer. And Jade is up here with us. But actually, when I was moving, I had packed up some of my old Ozone magazines. Oh Wow, you gotta you gotta stash of Bozone that posted one at the back Thursday, when oh wow, I missed that. I had definitely have a stash of bo Zones,

I would hope. So we're actually working on getting that in a some some libraries, some college libraries, the whole collection, and you know, for history, you know, as part of history. Do you know that when Little Wayne got out of jail, the first person he tweeted with Julia Beverley, that was my claim to fame for for a little while, shout out little Wayne. How did that even happen? I don't know. Well, I sent Wayne some books while he was in prison.

I think I was actually the last person to interview him before he went in. That was the Ozone cover story, I think, And I sent him a few books that I thought were interesting, just so we'd have something to read. And when he got out of prison, I was one morning, I think I was like getting in the shower or something, and I just looked on Twitter and I saw he had posted a tweet that he was home, and I replied and said welcome home. And I got out of the shower and I had like, you know, hundreds of

like and and I'm like, what happened? And so I saw he had he had just tweeted me like thanks or something like that. And so people were like radio stations were calling me like, oh, you were the first person Wayne tweet. We want to interview you, like seriously, And I just thought it was funny, but were looking for information, looking for news. Being that you had Ozone magazine, a lot of guys always wanted to get on the cover and stuff like that. Did you ever get propositioned?

A lot of guys like trying to hillight at you to get that cover slot? Be honest, I'm just joy some guys. I mean, being in the industry, of course you get proposition I don't know for the cover specifically. Um, there was a rapper who his manager wanted him to perform at the Ozone Awards in Miami, and I told him we didn't have a slot, or I told him no basically, and we hung up the phone and he sent me a picture or of his penis or a penis, so it did not know No, his his group did

not perform, So the penis wasn't that impressive? If it wasn't, I don't think that unsolicited penis pictures really work. It doesn't work for me penis pictures that Jade, I'm sure you've gotten some unsolicited I didn't ask for is penis pictures. Oh, I get them all the time. Like them, you like you like dick pics? No, you have guys like I didn't ask for all that. You know, I didn't ask for all that. What if they probably sent it from their granny's basement. I don't want their dick. The kind

of guys who want does not. They don't say pictures, broken pictures, what is it? Or insecure one or insecure one? You think that's insecurity? Add what if he isn't the only thing they have to offer the world is are big? You know? Because men, they might also think they like getting pictures from us, So maybe we were like, you know, I think that's what it is. They love getting pictures from women, So I think that, and they think the

same from us. They think that we liked it, but I don't really know a lot of girls that want you to just send your dick VI. Well, men are visual, but women we want to be like teased a little bit, like I'd rather see a little you know, a little dick print and that that's why what was it? Uh swept? What was it called? The bob? Did women like that? Like we rather to see it in your sweatpants and actually see it. Oh, I don't like to dick if I asked for it, if I'm looking for it, but

not a random one. Not just random. Yeah, you're sending me that dick pick is not gonna make me send you a picture. And I always think when guys send a dick pick they've had it like in their phone for a while, yeah, because they feel like it's not like a fresh I'm taking this today picture. There was an actor in l A that I met at a party and he showed me he had a separate phone with about twenty dick pictures and he was just like just had just met him, like literally two minutes ago.

That definitely happened in l A. Right, do you know what I'm talking about? That? Yeah, but he was creepy. He liked he had a nice sauce because some porn star, so I'm sure, yeah I have. I'm sure that you've seen them. You know? Is it weird like to be friends at the porn Star and West Airporn and be like, oh, I really loved your working. When curiosity kills the cat, I feel like, you know, you might google their name and find some dirt out and just be creeped out.

So they're just like a grimy porn star and shameful friends at that point. Now, Dada, let's talk about why you're here today. All right, Julia actually bout you when you're in her book about him c. Yeah, I'm here to support her, right, and um, you have some interesting stories though, because when she told me about you, I was like, I would love to meet Jada just to pick her brain because she always said, to the hell need you are? How you just talk about anything? And

you yourself A said you're very blunt about certain things. Yeah, I don't bite my time, you don't bite you to matter what the consequences are. So I was reading the book and you actually used to would you say date Pimcy? Was that like your what do what do you consider? How would you characterize your relationship? I would say that he was a guy that came in my life and proved himself to be like the definition of a real

niggo whatever. You know. He um, he taught me, you know, value and you know how men are supposed to treat woman. And you know, he gave me up like, you know, if if I'm gonna be someone with somebody, you know, make sure that they don't play me off my mind, play me off my heart, or play me off my pussy, you know. And and you know, he started kind of instilling those type of values that a big brother or a father figure would, you know, and still in a

woman that you know needs to know those things. But but you guys did have intimate relations at the same time. And I don't want to comment on that. I don't want speak on anyone else's dick. But he was very good to me. You know, he was a good person to me. How did you guys meet? Um? We met at the Montreal You know, I kind of like I was taking care of business. I was hustling. You were an escort at that I was an escort at the time, and I was going to take care of one of

my clients. Yeah, I was going to take care of one of my clients, and um, you know, I kind of want to He tried to get my attention when I went upstairs. Um, the situation you know, was very lucrative and only last about fifteen minutes. So I came back down and okay, wait, now let's let's go back to that fifteen minutes. What are you doing fifteen minutes? I mean, I mean I was I was an adult service provider at the time. Fifteen minutes and now she

was just doing her got job good. It was over fast. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know ahead of time that it's only going to be fifteen minutes pretty much. Yeah, pretty much home downstairs and he was like, save bitch, he said, because I

save bit. And and I was trying to me you know, I was the pimps how at the time, so I'm like looking at the ground, you know, doing all this creepy stuff that they try to put in your head whatever, and I felt like he was trying to be your pimp, yeah, you know, and he had you know, the image jewelry whatever. He was very flamboyant, and I'm like, oh my gosh, not another nigga. And I was like he's like, I'm

not a pimp. I pimp the rap game, you know, and he you know, started talking talking to me about that broke well know that, Yeah, I googled him later, but you know, broke the ice and we ended up talking about you know, things from you know, the music industry to my lifestyle to God, and you know we kind of like bonded from that point. So he was kind of kind of more of an accountability partner and a mentor and a real friend, you know, and someone that wasn't At first, I was timid, you know, I

thought maybe he wanted my money. But you know, after time, I I've seen he was doing things for me that nobody else did, like things like what like you know, basically making me a better person, making me a better woman, you know, teaching me that, you know, everything that I need to know. I don't need to pay anyone to get It's all in my head. You know, I could go out and get it myself. I could you know, be a better woman, a stronger woman, and kind of

like balance my self out and make better choices. Do you think it's an escort you have to have a pimp. I don't think as an escort you necessarily have to have a pimp. I would say about half of them, do you know, because you think or not? Um, it just depends. I mean, if you're human traffic victim and you're in the situations to where you're actually in the streets,

then you might need protection. You know, if you're on a different level and you know, people have their credit card information and they're taking care of you and it's a sugar daddy type of thing and yeah, what like, you know, it might it might not be that situation. But some people are just you know, they don't even have a bank account, so you know they might need

a little guidance. But no, but what you said, what you said how you met Pimsey was interesting to me because you know, girls in the game, you learn about pimps and the relationships they have with their girls, and you know, one of the rules you can't look at another pim Yeah, talks to another pim yeah, look down or look another way. You never make eye contact with

another pick Yeah. And you know you you being from the East Coast, like you guys are you know, strong independent woman, so you don't necessarily like but these girls on the calls don't. Don't let it fool you. They got pimps to you for so well, No, I would say they're just tricking. I don't think they have pimps because they're not getting you know, they're they're not getting but they're not getting the rules because I don't know what the rules. Okay, so they're tell me some tell

me some of the rules. These the pimps here on the East Coast. It's it's like fake pimping. They're groupies. They're groupies. They're probably paying rappers, they're probably paying you know, the boys or whatever, you know, but they're yeah, they're getting like a thousand dollars and there, and they're passing their money and maybe getting whatever it's But but really, you know, real boss witches out here on the East

Coast don't kind of understand that mentality. On the West Coast, you know, they kind of like Bill, they need help sometimes some girls do. But once once you pay for whatever, you need to know, like, you know, do your own thing, retire yourself, going to a different business. You said, I know, you said. Five years is usually what they tell you, like, do this for five years. Stuck in. Yeah, when I got in the game, it was like, hey, you know

what to take care, take care of your business. Graduate in five years, have some business to show for yourself, you know, have something to show for yourself, and and carry on. And I think a lot of people don't know how this boy, because I don't really know that much about the ship between pimps and their hose, you know, escorts or whatever. So Stephanie said, one of the rules is you're not allowed to look another pimp in the

eye when you have called reckless eyeballing reckless eyeblinks. So give me some more rules because I don't know some of the other one. I know that one because I have two brothers who are actually doing a lot of fed time right now. For I know, I'm feeling that because my brother in law is from Detroit, and they put you like, you know, you don't have to be,

you know, in in the game to the rules. You know the rules, because if you're you know, just a smart person, you're gonna want to be aware of your surroundings, whatever type of What are some more of the rules, so we know, I'm just curious. I want to You can't get out of pocket, you know, you can't get out of pocket. No mouthing off and no, like you you know, the only male you're supposed to communicate with is your daddy, you know, and your daddy is supposed

to you know, take care of you or whatever. But if you get out of pocket, you know, you might suffer the consequences. What is getting out of pocket? Getting out of pocket is kind of like cheating on your boyfriend, alright, So no, like having deep conversations with somebody else, not even looking at another guy, not even being on the phone with another guy, exchanging numbers. So you can't have a boyfriend? No, yeah, no, okay, what are some more rules I need to know about? A bottom bitch? Like

is there? Okay? Okay, okay, bottom No, no, no, okay, okay. I've had a whole bunch of sister wives. That ship has hell it crazy. It's a bunch of hose, you know. And they chased after the same cock, and they're sold the same illusion. And there they either keep it, yeah, they either keep it real or you know, they're they're not in it to chase the same millions. If they're in it to chase the you know, the guy you know,

they won't have they'll have a short expiration date. If they're in it for money, then they might be yeah, a bottom bitch. Have you been in a situation where there was a bottom bitch? Or yeah, yeah, yeah, and and that and that's some bullshit. That's basically like you take the ass end of the stick. You gotta like have all these responsible you're like the junior pim, you know, Yeah, you don't like so you don't like to tack to

you a little more. I mean, if if a guy, if a if a p has a bottom bitch, if a pimp has a bottom bitch and she's on you know, and on businesses and is a direct reflection of his empire, you know, then I could be like, oh, okay, you know, salute to you because you have something to show for yourself. But if you're a bottom bitch and you're at the bottom, you know, the bottom of the barrel and the bottom, yeah, the bottom, this is a good thing. Like I'm holding

my man down. Mentally, Sometimes the bottom bitch has just been round enough and she has to be told she's the bottom bitch because she's just you know, been around too much. But to me, you know, it might I thought that you know, the bottom bitch might get like special treatment. Yeah, yeah, she holds it down in real situations, which there's about five pc of the and the bottom

gets pregnant. No no, no, no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no. If you were in a if you were in a situation and you're in a situation over you know, six seven years, and you have planned and it makes sense, and you've put in millions and it makes sense to bring a child into that environment, then salute to you because you know you have enough money for a nanny and you know, you know, you know, early child development,

private school. But if you don't got it like that, your bottom bitch that lives at the motel six needs to yeah, needs to get her tubes tied, because it's not you're gonna have some fun up child. I agree with that. Now, let's well, let's talk about two for a second. Data because in the book you refer to Jamal. Now it turns out I was beating the description of footnotes. Jamal is Molly Mall from Love and Hip Hop? Is that correct? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Jamal's cool. Were you his

bottom bitch, Jamal? Ever, Jamal didn't have a bottom bitch. Jamal ran um kind of like a business, you know, a legitimate business and a licensed opera, um, a licensed operating you know in room entertainment business. Okay, it's called in room entertainment. Yeah. Yeah, it's like legal in the state of NA. Yeah, it's legal in the secondary and

um you know the great thing. Yeah, it's like movies. Yeah, it's nothing legal French it was we were like, you know, we were like the Hugh Hefner playboy bunnies of that decade. So he was getting his money though, for real, because Molly mall Um, I could say, you know, after being in you know all these people's homes. You know, no needs name drop or whatever. Everyone's home. Everyone's fake mansions that you know the record label Yeah, that the record

labels paid for. It's whatever whatever whatever. Like Jamal Ship is solid. You know, he pays his taxes, like his mansion is. I would describe as like Michael Jackson's like never never Land. You know, you might get some Jesus Joes, you might run into lions, tigers, bears or whatever, but you know it was likenyimately paid. He has a legitimate business. Yeah, he's paid. Because when I was introduced to him, it was like, oh, you know, world famous producer. I was like,

who is Molly? I've never heard of him. He's an executive producer. Phober writes his music and music and stuff like that, you know, and they're they're like a duo or whatever. I don't know, So what was it like working for Molly mall um? That was the you know,

one of the best experiences of my life. It honestly coming from nothing, you know, coming literally from nothing, um sugar bread sandwiches, you know, to um being picked up from the airport and you know, a Rolls Royce and you know, being driven around, you know, everywhere, and by chauffeurs. I I don't drive, I get driven. You know. He put that in me. You know, to this day, you don't say, girl, I say the same thing. I like

to get driven. Yeah, yeah, I don't. Yeah, but it wasn't very Yeah, I definitely don't know how to drive. You live in New York. Now, I don't drive. I get driven. And because I do, yeah, yeah, she's like Uber, I take Uber because I don't know how to drive. Yeah, but I don't take public transportation because it's embarrassing and its small. It's embarrassing. I'm not gonna lie. Take the train because it's quicker. Yeah, because it's quicker. Sometimes sometimes

you get that can tell people. I know people recognize you. Yeah. But if I'm going like just the most too famous to be on the train, he is, no. Because look sometimes I go offrom My jab to Midtown and might take me an hour to drive, but on the train to take me ten minutes. People don't hand your demos, and no, nobody has me demos, And they'd be like, are you actually You just be like, no, I'm not everybody because I get demos, so I know you get demos.

But back to this, right, back to this to Molly Mall. Okay, well Molly Mall's good fronts with Tiger right Well, no, no, no, I don't. I don't know if you know, I don't know their relationship, but I know he invested a lot in his music projects and stuff like that, and you know, he did a lot of good things for Tiger. You know, one thing I could say about Tamal is like he's done a lot for people and they didn't give him

credit for it. No, I just ring Tiger up because we just had um, we just had Cindy star on the show, and the media takeout made up a big lie about her being with Tiger. So I wanted to ask you, like, what do you think about transgenders being in that circle? Can you hear me a lease? Yeah? Like what do you think about the transgenders in that circle? Like do you think they exist in that circle? We think it's lies. You know, are there a lot of

transgender escorts? Hold up, Jesus man, hold up, um, you know, honestly, honestly, I've been around. You know, we all been around. You know, we all been around close studio sessions and all types of ship and just sitting there like the wall flower flowers watching them on Molly, you know, do their thing and seeing guys be a little bit too friendly. So you know, I've seen a lot of guys. Is that. I scratched my head and I'm like, you know what, So you thought I knew them, but you know, I

don't necessarily know them like that. So as far as Tiger, you know, I don't know him personally, but I do believe the story because I mean, but you're like I'm saying, I'm just asking because you know, you're in the circle. You've been around for years, you know what. I'm so you do believe the story though, Like I'm just I you've seen because I know you're really honest. You said

that from the beginning. Okay, I'm not gonna say, I'm not gonna say any names, right, but around you know that whole little you know, that whole little you know, Vegas drive to l a drive circle of you know people or whatever. You know, before you know, before Tiger was around. You know, um, there were you know rumors

that you know, Shook Night, you know kind of wait night. Okay, you know when Shook Knight got out of jail for the first time, you know, he kind of like wanted to get his you know, feedback in the streets and ship and um, you know, I you know, whatever might might have been around may have not, but rumors have it. You know, Shuge Knight had to make a little power play on another person that was, you know, trying to be popping or whatever in that city. And a male artist,

male you know, a male producer artist or whatever. You know, and you know, Sugar, you know you're dancing around No no, no, no no, no no wait wait wait wait wait wait, let me finish the story Suge Knight, you know, was that in a in someone's you know, vicinity and made made a niket drop to his knees and suck his dick, you know. And and and the guy did it because

he did it. No, no, no, no, no, the guy did it because he was a pussy nigket and dropped to his ease and shook said, oh, you know whatever, you know, I just did this time in prison or whatever, you know, and this is how I show, you know, this is how nigga is in the pen show or whatever that you know, these niggas are bitches. But I didn't understand that because I see that as homosexuality. You

just didn't let another nigga suck to do. But you know, Shug Knight is Shug Night, and thank god that you know he's under the bus right now and can't catch me. But so now do you look at that, it's almost sexuality. When did you say this, Shi Night is a homosexual from that story or you think that is really a power thing. I think it's an institutionalized you know, mental you know, yeah, yeah, what are you gonna say? So? I agree, I feel like what happens in jail happens

in jail. They call it gapest to come on, man, that should happened in jail. Niggas is in jail sucking and fucking because that's what they're doing. They don't talk about it, but it happens. So I believe that that happened with sig Nite And maybe he took it a little bit too far, but for him to say this, how home, Now you gotta do that no more. You can get a girl to second, you don't have that. You don't have to make get on his knees because like, but that was his way of making him feel well.

He should have chose a different way back to me. And that I actually know, like because she's she's been around you know what I mean. So this is people, and I just wanted to know if she feels like there may have been been homosexuality and they are highly affected. Yeah, I actually like, I mean, my team is entertainment. I've seen I find a lot of things questionable, questionable. You know, we're all chilling and then the two dip off and it's like what sweaty and I gotta pay more attention

to my surroundings. And just like I'm thinking they just had a game of pickup. Suck in my ball, stuck in the ball. Now, do you think that you could be in a relationship with a guy who you knew, like got his finger in his booty? What if? Because some people don't think it's gay to get to dig suck by another guy? Yeah? What if you're getting raped in jail? Then are you gay? No? Yes you are. If you get raped, if you get you you did

not go down without a fight. I'm so sorry if I was, if I was in a man's body, I would not be a homosexual. I would not take pipe in the booty. So if somebody try to put it in my ass there, I would be an isolation because I would have to piece him up and fight for my manhood until the very end. And that's so if you let yourself go, then you let yourself go at

the end. But I mean, what if you get beat up, you laying on the ground beat up, And I think a real nigga in jail, I don't think he's to be able to get to the jail is going to have respect no matter what, you know what I mean, I don't know if I'm a man, I don't know. Yeah, i'd have to call the CEO before I took some dick in my booty if I was for real n't turning gay. But you know, all right, so let's let's get back to talking about this whole um. Yes, well

not just Julius like, um, I don't know. Well, the reason I found her story interesting was that if you've talked about a lot of artists, there's there's a lot of contradictions between who they are as a person and maybe what they represent their music. So somebody like Pimpsy like his his music, and you know, he dealt with a lot of these, you know, actual pimps, Like he had a lot of friends who really were in the game. But he was not actually an actual pimp, but he

represented that lifestyle. He had the main coats, you know. So I've had people asked me like, why would you want to write a book about somebody who named himself after a pimp? Is demeaning to women. But the side of him that I knew, like, he was always respectful to me. He had a great relationship with his mom, Like he was he was like guy. Yeah, So I thought her story was interesting because he represented this lifestyle.

But at the same time, like he from what his mom told me, like he you know, he cared about her, considered her a friend, and he wanted to kind of help her, and so he was like trying to put her up on game and not trying to like get her out of the game, but just telling her, like, you need to do better, Like don't let people take advantage of yours. You say you enjoy it, Um, that's my career. You know, I've been doing that since by choice, you know, since I was eighteen. So I'm very lucrative

from what I do. I take care of myself, you know, I'm good take care of my business. But but some people have days that they hate, Like did you enjoy it? No? Yeah, yeah, I kind of found that, you know when I when I was seventeen and I was, you know, sending my pictures to suicide Girls and you know, getting paid to do little pin up things and I was skinny and stuff. Oh my god, that's so funny because I was doing the same ship baby. Yeah, what is it tell us

about that? Because I don't know what that is either side girls dot Com. It's like are they still up? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, but they got everybody. It was like suicide girls. Okay, it's we're a little broke, little you know, punk rocker. Yeah, when you first start off, you can make it one fifty two fifties. Shoot, you send him ten pictures, you know. And I gave him a fake I d and I was slanging my little photos. Yeah. And I was in college taking photography classes, so I was doing the pictures.

Do you have tattoos? Yeah, yeah, all my back and stuff. Yeah, because that's what it is, is is tattoo girls. Yeah, you know, they're like, you know, punk rocks, like punk rocker girls tell you like naked on there or is it just sexy photos? Yes? Pin up? You know, you can do your hair key bikini. But then I started googling escorts and they like show a little nipple. It's like a

a like a tattoo, like playboy type. And when I turned eighteen a week later, I got my UM dancer license and Texas to become a stripper whatever, and um, I was an innocent stripper at the time. I didn't know. You know, girls, you know what's the innocent stripper? You actually look like? Yeah, I didn't know that an innocent

stripper as girls that don't fuck. Yeah. So I used to tell on the managers when I would catch the you know you used to tell the half hose sucking dick and should I know my money they're sucking O my money. Didn't want to for the girl because they're doing that all that, and I could get that for nothing, you know, because I already you know, I'm a hustler. So I'm like, what the funk they're bucking up my money?

And um. Then someone gave me enough money to where I was like, all right, I came out past this. What's enough money? Like? What was that at the time? Okay, at the time about thirteen fourteen years ago? She looks young. She doesn't look in early Yeah, she's not. She's like thirty one and like one day, So how much was it? Was? That's good back in a day, that's pretty good. Yeah,

a decade and a half ago. So but it was, you know, he put me in a bubble bath and you know, massage my back and I'm like like, no, this is what I'm telling I gotta get on apple. Yeah, And I was like, ship, where is another one of you that presented by? Because you worked in a Magic City for a long time. How many of the girls. Was that an issue there too? Are these girls behalf holes? Well,

you can't be half holes. That made the city because mage the city is one big open space, like there's no private room, there's no behind the walls, and you got it. I've never been I heard. I heard that you have to have a lot of talent, which I lack to be the type of you know girl that she has in well, no, but just classically trained dancing that I was just telling him I wanted some stripper poles and tworque lessons. Got your girls and twerk lessons,

like a year ago. I know, I'm here, I'm at it. Um. Yeah, there's no, there's no It's all one big run, big open room with a stage in the middle. So there is no behind the door, behind the wall. What about after people leave work, when they leave work and do

what they do, that's yeah there there. You know, I've been to the after hours clubs and I've seen some, but you know that it ain't worth it because she probably make it more inside the club they're making outside was like a famous you know, everybody used to go there and spend all the money. Well after they spend you know, five thousand on her. What else the yeah, nine hundred bad hard on. Yeah, they got about nine hundred left between two girls. They want to ring for

three homeies and I'm worth it. Okay. So then so eighteen, you were doing that, and then you you got your license as a dancer, and then you got that one night with that guy gave you the bubble bath to back, gave you fift dollars and after that what happened? Um, after that, you know, I kind of Um, I caught a dope charge, which was a felony, and um, I was like, you know what if I just you know, get a little crazier, that's a misdemeanor. And but you

gotta you got a felony charge for drugs? Yeah, okay, that's different. That's a whole different story. Yeah that's some so some whole other ship. So you know I took you know, some girls you know get charged for prostitution. No, no, no, no, I own my crimes or whatever. So I paid my own crimes. I own my crimes or whatever. But you know, I realized, you know what, this is a misdemeaner, this is a felony. So I might as well, you know, take one for the team and figure it out or whatever.

So you know, I met somebody that introduced me to the game or whatever, you know, transition my lifestyle. Is this something that you were looking for or did that person. I'm just an opportunist. I'm a hustler. So if there's something in front of me and at that, you know, I would. You know, when I was at that young in my mind, I was like, well, you know, all this money, why not you know, I'm gonna go here. I'm sleeping with all these guys were free, I might

as well get paid for it. There has to be times that you ended up with Like can you say there's been times you end up with guys that you were just totally not turned on by at all? Oh no, no, no no, no, no, I'm pretty enough to discriminate. I'm pretty enough to discriminate. If you're a plumber, if you have bad hygiene, if you a praper, if if you're a bullshit nigked whatever. I don't got time for no headaches. Goodbye, I left my keys in my car. I gotta go.

Thank you for your money. By you know, I don't. I don't have time and I know you've always said you don't mess with No broke those period, nothing broke nothing. Because I'm gonna take all your money, and I'm gonna feel bad taking your last So I'd rather not do like I want your kids college fund. I want it all, like the money from home whatever. You've never been in a position where have you ever been in love? No? Do you want to? Yeah, I'm saving myself because I'm

such a lover. I love all my friends, I love all my family. Like. The last thing that I want to do is sacrifice my heart and my love. In my mind, she taught me better than that. Nice. So the last thing I want to do is give myself to an undeserving person. So I'm gonna know when it's real. Smart. Now I'm a hustler. I'm gonna know when someone's playing me or want someone from my whatever, whatever, whatever. I'm not gonna be someone's trophy wife. I don't need no

nigga's money. I don't need no nigger to pay my bills. I could pay my own bills. None, None of that ship now, pre s girl, Amen, I agree with you on that. Now. Earlier Julie and I were talking. This is earlier today, and we were talking about whether or not we will be okay with our boyfriend being cool with our friends, as in, they speak to each other when we're not around, they hang out together sometimes maybe go grab something to eat. So I wanted to get

from all you ladies your opinion on that. How do you feel gig about your friends being friends with your man. The last time my friends were friends with my man, they did some really them okay, just show their hands. They did some really just dirty betrayal, corny ass They they sissed on you or yah. Yeah, they went they ran and told that what And I learned my lesson from that. Those those are real friends. Clearly they we

were friends. One of them I was friends with a fourteen years, so I thought that she was a real friend. But at the end of the day, clearly she wasn't. What was the reason for her friends, I don't know. I mean, people say she was jealous. I don't like to use that word. I don't feel like I have anything for media for peoplely jealous by, Like can I cut you off? Yeah? No? No? No? You are a

beautiful yeah yeah, you're a beautiful woman. So in a situation like that there's ten commandments right that shall not cover it. Watch the company you keep because a lot of people will be around you because they covered your life. So that might have been a situation like that. And it could be that people like jealous of really talks like you. But she's so cute, thattic. Well, let me get you that. She didn't have a man, you like, they want your life and man the span of years,

didn't have a man or nothing. Huh, she didn't have a man. She just she wanted to be in a relationship. UM. I learned a lesson from that, and I feel like now, um, I'm not in a relationship. Um, we're working on our relationship. I've seen that on Instagram. It's a working, working progress.

I just I take every life experience as a lesson, and I learned a lesson from that life experience, and I know moving forward not to let my friends, um get too close um, and not to put myself out there to be vulnerable for something like that to happen to me. Now, UM, I have not when we were in a relationship after that point, I wasn't cheating on him,

so there wasn't anything for anybody to tell um. And you know, if we do work out our relationship and we get back together, I won't cheat on him, so there'll be nothing for no one to tell. But at the end of the day, I have very close friends, like you, Angela, you are close friends with him. Julia knows my guy, like a lot of people that I'm friends with, our friends with him, so and we're friends with him first or whatever. So you know, it's just like a balance. Yeah, it's a balance, but still a

friends a friend is a friend is a friend. It's a balance, though, but if it's somebody that you've known for fifteen years, you don't want difference and them become friends on the personal level and the personal level, my guy is like the hostess with the like, the host with the most like. Sorry enough, he's like the host with the most like. It's just the same. She's just helf.

He's like the hosbandal. He likes that. He's very friendly, and he likes to, you know, have everybody around and group outings and everybody come over and cook out in the backyard and and no, no no, no, I would never. But at the end of the day, I just know how to handle people from that perspective at this point? Do you can't know Jada. Let's take about you. Would you say, got in a relationship and I have sister wives? First of all, okay, your sister wife, her relationships is

like a whole difference. Okay, so what was now Let's say one day. So now in this current situation, you still have sister wives. You still are dealing with that. No, okay, say you get into a relationship, do you have do you feel comfortable introducing some of the girls that you've been around that you're cool with to your man and letting them be cool with each other, exchange numbers. I know hos like the lions in the back of my hand. I've been dealing with hose for over fourteen years and

since I was a minor. So anything that a girl breathes, you know, sneezes says, I know where it came from and where it's going. So you could try me if you want to. You but I'm the wrong that you try. No. But you could go no no no no no no no no no no no no no. I have the ultimate confidence. You could go out with my man and try me if you want to. You could try me if you want to. But if you respect me and you value our friendship, then I'm gonna funk with you.

Go y'all, go have fun. I'm busy, you know, go have fun. And I don't. I if I have a man and I'm gonna trust him, you know he's not gonna do no how ship. Would you want to be in a No? Would you say that if you're in a relationship with somebody and that's your men, are you into like doing three silms in him? None of that. No.

I tried it. I took a molly once in my life because I thought it would make it me freaky or whatever, and yeah, it would make me free whatever whatever broken English we Spanish where so, so you know, like I tried it, and you know, they started doing their thing, you know, and I kind of warmed them up, and I was like, this ship Warren, I ain't about to eat her pussy. So let me go to the

living room watch them. Yeah, let me go to the living room and watch the Smurfs molly and let them get it in in and let me know when y'all done, and I'll come and wipe your dick or something. But other than that, yeah, that's the threesomes. Yeah, but the team you've got some new pussy. You didn't have to go out and get it. Goodbye. He likes doing threesomes. You like it too. She wants a sister wife, girl, I don't want a sister wife. But I don't like that.

I don't. Yeah. I was like, it's it's a recreational sport, girl threesomes, the real threesomes or do you just want to please your man? No, I like a real threesomes. Yeah, she likes it. So you're not gonna do something I want. It's not something I great for it. Yes, I'll do it. I've done it, but it's not like you're gonna have fun and enjoy it in the moment. Of course, you wouldn't be with a woman without your man involved. I mean I have, but not with a woman like relationship.

What hell? No? What do you strap on? Would I? Yeah? Have you I have about it because I but it was it was it was it was a guy involved too. You should jump out on a guy. No. I was like, gosh, no, But for me, I don't mind my guy friends because I have a lot of guy friends. I don't mind my guy friends being friends with my man, but my girlfriends, I don't see the interest. I don't understand why you would want to be friends with my man like friends.

I thought, every every situation is different. I don't think even if they knew each other already, but like, if they're communicating without you and so that's not a weird boyfriend, why would you communicate with him like trying me? I thought, Yeah, but if it's like if it's like the music industry, that's a little different. Though, Like everybody knows everybody like dating somebody. I don't think she would care if I

like hung out with her. Man is probably not. But you, like, I trust you, like, And it depends on who the person is too, Like I would trust you, whereas other people I might not. You know, it depends on how well you know the person. And you know Angela's business and I know Angela's type too, So if he was Angela's type, I might be worried, but you would be worried for real, kidding. I don't think we hug me up with somebody once. No, you said you wanted to go on a real date, So I have a lot

of guys you on a real date? Yeah, did you have one on your date. I don't think they hit it off though he was Julia's tape. What's that type, Angela? UM? Let me see, Well, I like I think physically I have a type like I just I don't think me and Angela like the same type of guy. So I wouldn't care if she hung out with my guy because I don't think we would even Aside from that though, but I think I have morals like I wouldn't want

to message some one of my friends guys. I would never do that was somebody that was my type where, you know, universally attractive. I just would never do that. Angela. Let's say I introduce you to Ralph tomorrow a week later, Well, we already know where he's going. I'm definitely not going up there with him. Sure, I know for sure Angela is not gonna want to switch numbers with my man and go out to eat with him. What now? What if?

What if you introduced your man to one of your friends and then he tried to kick it to her? Would you want her to tell you? Of course, because sometimes the girls don't believe that stuff. Sometimes you tell your friend the guy and the girl has to tell you right, if not, if the guy is being But let me tell you my sister, my older sister, my sister, she's five years older than me. She was best friends with her friend. They know each other to say, were kids,

you know. Long story short. She was in a serious relationship with a guy for four years and they lived in the same building. My sister and her best friend. They lived in the same building, like different apartments in the same building and the bronx. So one day my sister came home and she knocked on her friend's door and she wasn't home, but her man was there at her Man was like, Oh, I just want to tell you all this time, I've been fantasizing about you. I've

been dreaming about you. I want to be with you so bad. So my sister was like what. So she kept it to herself for a little while, but finally told her friend about it, and her friend didn't believe her. That's what I'm saying. It's a touchy thing because sometimes, depending on your friend, you tell them that the guy

will deny it. Yeah, my friend, her friend, they're not Now you're not friends with this person anymore, even though they Sometimes you gotta just shut it down, and you can't say nothing because if you have a certain type of friend, she'd go yell at her man, but she stays with him, And now you look crazy because I don't play that ship no more. I don't get in between that ship. Right. So yeah, so that's I'm just saying. Sometimes I don't want my boyfriend even having any girlfriends

because I don't trust bitches at all. I don't trust bitches who run around and pacts. I don't trust run around and packs. Like you know, girls be having ten best friends, they try to mount an amount to one like I know, I don't know. I mean, if this was your friend, and if my man has the best friend that he's, you know, he's they've been friends for a long time. Cool, cool, Fine, Fine, No new friends, no girlfriends, because I know, bitch isn't I'm gonna end

up beating somebody up and that's just not fun. I just no violence. We're not promoting violence on the show at all period. Now. But you know what, because the reason we were talking about this is because I kind of if I'm dating somebody, I want them to be friends with my friends. But only the people that I really am be cool with them, not like that communicating

outside of you. That's why I don't even think I mind that so much as long as it's like I think, I would think it would be weird if they were like going to dinner without you and stuff like that, that would be weird. But you want them to be cordial. No, no, wait, wait wait, Juliet. If you know you had a special person of interest who is in New York, you know, and yeah, and the only person you trust as Angela, then yeah, set them up for dinner, because wouldn't you

want to live in different cities. That's a little different. Well, that's what I'm saying, right, you're gonna You're gonna trust this is like a weird hypothetical situation and give your nigga go to dinner mother. Yeah, I mean, then you want them to be cool enough that you can all hang out and like spend time together. But like, if why would they go to dinner themselves without you? That

doesn't make sense exactly. But what if like you're dating somebody and he you live, you know, he's in Atlanta and your best friend lives in Atlanta, and you're like, oh, I want you to be my guy. Y'all should go out. But when you come to town, then you would introduce them and y'all all go hang out, Like why would

they go? Why would they go meet each other separately? Awkward? No? No, no. If you introduced me to your your your your boyfriend, let's say asually you're in a series relationship asan and I know each other a year, right, like a year? Right? So you introduced me to your boyfriend and I tell you I hit you up. Oh hey, I'm a leap how you we're your man? We're just having dinner casual. Well, I would think there's a couple of different things here.

Now if you would have hit me ahead of time and been like, well, if they were at wingstop, would both of them satisfying? All right? So wait's together, Philip Sport. You don't even take me there? No, But if like, let's say, y'all both hit me up, like, oh you know, I'm I'm out of town. Let's say, but Stephanie's in town group thing? Then but nobody. I just think I

talk about you Eddie girl on this panel. If you introduced me to your boyfriend, there's not ever going to be a time in life that I have dinner with him one on one. Yeah, that's weird banking. Can you please take my most so he's not having dinner with any other how can you keep an eye keep an eye that so keeping tabs on me? And I get that. I get that, Like you want to send your best

friend now that Stephanie is just a crazy bitch. That's all that is when that comes to him, man, she don't play like I mean, like if a girl looks at my man a certain way, I'm like, what's so interesting that you have to look at him? For having a roommate. Let's say your boyfriend. Let's say your boyfriend comes over, you have a roommate and you have to leave and go out. Would you leave your man in the house with your roommate? What? Yeah, you don't really

have a choice. Yeah, you can be like you gotta get you gotta go to my current boyfriend. I would leave alone with my roommate for sure. But I don't know I'm her boyfriends. I don't know if like other guys, I don't know if I would be dating a new guy and leave him alone with my I mean, I know I know my roommate, the roommate that I have now I know that she she would let me know, like she would keep it real with me. She knows which of my niggas she can't funck and she can't fall,

so she can't suck some of them. Yeah, like right now, you don't right now having a serious relationships, right relationship. But when I'm not in a serious relationship, you know some some your friends know which ones you care about which, like god street girls like hole, they try to pass some rounds to their friends, like rotation. We know who

the community is exactly community. But I don't care. If I messed with a guy, I don't expect you to mess with him after exactly me too, That's what I'm saying. That's grimy. I never after fun I don't want your after pussy. I never. That's the grimiest hood right as ships that have been. There's so many niggas in the

world to be fucking with somebody. It just doesn't make no cement out here for you to after fuck on the girl that you're gonna add that like after like a new word, Like like I was saying, you know, I know that if like my current, you're pussy, you tasted after not after birth. You know, I know my current boyfriend, you know, like I know him and my roommate like I I know, nothing would ever happen with them.

But I know if I had another boyfriend and he felt nigga, if he felt you know, like he felt froggy, I know that my roommate would look at him like what and then text me like bitch. You know what I mean. But the girls, other girls want what you have, like that's why you'll not coving no. But that's why you know popular girls. Because I don't like to call myself famous, but you know popular girls, popular age girls. You gotta be careful. Um, you know who you funk

with because you've given those guys a look. So after you know a girl a bit, she's a nigger with me, a bit, she's a man with me, and she's taking Oh, he must have money, he must have All of a sudden, my nigga looked good to her last week. She's seen him and he wasn't interested. She wasn't interested. But guys are bigger than girls. Like when you get a little shine, if you're with a guy, you're giving him a look. Yeah,

especially unless it's somebody bigger and you of course that's different. Julia. What's the craziest thing somebody ever did? Because I know for you in a position that you were in, but all the guys knew you to try to get your besides the penis picture. I mean, I'm sure you've gotten

some presents, some offers for things, some like something. It's just it's just weird to me when I've known someone for a very long time and they've never come at action, and then and then they just enjoy I get the action. I'm driving the boss. So you know, guys, I remember we was in Miami. This one rapper was on Julia. He kept asking me or hooked me up with Julia's

been so many I don't remember which one. Angie's I know you're talking about, right, Yeah, Well, guys, guys are guys are groupies, like when you when I did the Ozone Awards in Miami, I feel like that was that kind of put me on a certain level, Like people were looking at me like I was actually like some you know Vogel or whatever. Yeah, everybody was on me all of a sudden. I was like, well I look the same as I look. Let's do Yeah, go ahead.

First of all, miss I'm afraid miss undercover plane. Jane over here runs marathons and her asses on flee. Her abs are on fleet. Now her body she's the bodies like now she hides that ship to air Force because like a boil, because when you show it off, you get the wrong kind of attention, Like I don't want to get at like that, So I agree until she walked out to the pool with her bikini on, like, hey, miss Parker, yeah, what you ain't seeing Julia as a

really beautiful woman. She's really because she works embarrassing. Now she's looking like guys love to go after the head bitch, like they weren't the boss. So you must have had guys. I feel like you have in a certain way. You have to present yourself like I'm I want to present myself as a professional. So when you present yourself as then they don't. They don't. They don't take you seriously when you're trying to handle business. So I've always tried

to just keep it professional. And she doesn't drink, but I'm sure they've been after you had Yeah, some good stories about people that have really tried to go for you, And how you how do you divert out of those situations because I know it's hard sometimes the time and you have to kind of bibe and weave, But you still want to my period. Oh god, that's my number. No, no, no, no, no,

I'm babe baby. I got back back up light flow tampons, so if I have to at the heat of the moment, I will pull I will pull my dress up and show them my little for Stewart tampon Street go straight. You could put the little baby tap on it, because no woman ever uses the baby. And you're like, some of women don't care about doesn't work. Some guys are like, so check it out. Yeah, some some don't care. But I don't care. I just never wanted to be that girl.

Just don't want to have sex on their periodic Guys who are not circumcised, those are the only guys who don't have period sex. Guys who aren't circumcised, and guys who aren't circuides don't. Right. I never thought about that. All right, So that's your You just say that you're on your parent. But then what if they're like, Okay, well next week, I'm gonna fly you here. I'd like the things that I'm hard to get. I mean, I um,

I have a lot of excuses. You have a lot of excuses, but it's just the the industry is so small that you can't like, I never wanted to be that girl where like like I've been, I hang out with guys all the time. Like I'm very you, like we're very good, like you genuinely attracted to somebody. She's

she's a good journalist. She has her boundaries, and I must say that, like you know, from from my experience with her and knowing her, like she has her boundaries, Like no, she ain't you known people come to my room and ask me if I'm straight. You know, I've had bitches coming to my room and girls I might be fashionably fashionably by curious pussy? Do you eat pussy like somebody might be able to, you know, rub it

out or lick it out or whatever. Yeah, okay, so they can eat your pussy, but you won't eat their girls eat my pussy several times. Yeah, you think girls eat pussy better than guys. No, because some people say, because we're women, we know what we like more. Yes, I don't half the guys lick pussy. You gotta like a dog. You know, and that's not how you do it. That's not how you do it. Figure it out. Listen, you're not like we have done with how to eat

put lessons. I'm glad we were able to help some relationship. Please. I get comments they're like, man, you you taught me so much. You guys teach me so much. Every guy doing you do? You know? Another thing that I really want to put out there that I think more guys need to do is fingering. Yeah. I feel like a lot of guys don't finger girls anymore and it's a lost art. Yeah, you got, like I said, you gotta like suck a clip and push the water button. That's

how you make a girl squirrel. And I'm a c D. Now let me tell you what's your sign. I'm a pisces. When when we when I walked up there, she fist bumped me and then she handed me the parent sanitizer and I said, where's your this been that I have to And then okay, So I have been a lot of I've been around plenty vulnerable you know men, you know, in vulnerable, vulnerable situations, and um, I don't want any man's hands fingernails under fingernails, Like I've seen some pretty

grimy ship whatever what you're talking about. No, I don't care about it. In the relations for ten days straight, sanitize it, put it in the whatever, you know, whatever they gotta do, And I'm still not going to let them put no skin to skin contact. Ain't healthy body, because you know what I was, I don't want to be But what about kissing? Kissing kissing? Not at work? Wait? So as an escort, you don't kiss people. Hell no, GF.

But what if it's part of what he wants as his service, then he's gonna have to pay me more and he's gonna get ripped off because I ain't gonna give it to experience. What did you say? Oh, I didn't know what GF stiff for. I was trying to figure it out. Yeah, thank you, Yeah, no girlfriend that Hey, this is one. This is one man. I'm not No

skin to skin contact, that's not healthy. So even even if how do you have sex, what do you there's like a New York City there's tender, you know, so you know, guys are hooking up on tender and they're messing with these girls. They might be escorts on the side.

Strippers on the side, you know dope pe yeah, ap so I think plenty of fishes for that too, right, Well, everyone hooks up on that app, so you know they've got all these little sessables of freaking yeah, bacterial infection, I don't want, Yeah, I don't want your finger nails on me. And I met you off tender or I don't know if you've been on tender before. She's relationship relationship in a relationship man sheet, you don't know what that man did. What can you do with your man?

Then if you can't do that, you need to keep him in check, so you can't have unprotected sex with your man, but he can't finger you. If he's your man and you got him in check, then and you're comfortable with his fingers, that his fingers are and knowing that his fingers have not been on any other hookers, strippers, or any other vagina because skinned to skin contact can give you herpes, HPV all types of ship. But if you're having sex with people, you can still get all

of that. It depends on how you So you're saying that that his dick is cleaner than his his fake fingers, that dick with a latex condom is the only way. But you can still get a condom on the only way.

So make him wear make him wear rubber glove. Yeah, if when I was escorting, you know, I used to carry non latex surgical gloves to the purple ones, you know, and the experience, you know, bare backhand jobs with latex gloves or you know, if they want to, you guys want to hand out with a latex glove on it. They don't matter. But the kind of guys that you know are looking to have an escort, they're gonna take

how they're gonna get it. And that's it because they're, you know, paying for a service, and it's like getting are basically the gloves on, you know what I mean, you were like a mask. He bloody stinks. Maybe now when you get at least you're safe. That's that's a beautiful thing. Now let's talk about being a Have you ever been in a dangerous situation. I've never been raper robbed.

I've known a lot of people I knew. Actually, there's a story and in Julia's book, you know, at the end of the book with one of the characters where you know, I knew you know, guys and situations where to where they had to protect their girls because you know, they had girls that were you know set up on you know, fake situations or fake you know, um you know meet and greets with their clients, and they were, Um,

there was a yeah, there was a Yeah. There was a character in her book where you know, the pimp had a girl you know, and she she um was you know kind of like fished into a different room, you know than what she was supposed to go to, so they didn't have the correct address, and um, she was raped for half a day and given drugs so

she could stay up. And the pimp, you know, in that situation, you know, kind of retaliated against the situation and found the guy took his wife and his two kids and himself into the same time, the same hotel where he raped the you know, underage prostitute, and you know he had the underage prostitute tell the wife and kids her experience, you know with the rapist and you know the pimp rape the trick that raped the girl with a broomstick. This story is in the book. Yeah,

it's in the book. Yeah, Well it's it's a it's a footnote it's not really not it's not related to you know, but that's one of, you know, one of the situations that were kind of involved in the Dish track that she kind of like wrote about how like kind of c was involved in the streets and she actually had you know, like his knees deep in the game. And because a lot of people asked me, like, was like how active was like was he an actual pimp? Like based on his name and his image and things

like that. So that's why I thought her story was interesting because it kind of showed like how he kind of walked that line like he was he represented it, but at the same time, like he cared about people in it, and so I just thought it was interesting and that wasn't abusing his title right now. He never he said that he his name. Initially, he meant it to be pimping the pen, like pimping his rap music,

and he said he felt like the music industry was pimp. Yeah, that was another real He always talked about that analogy where he said, you know, he had some quote where he was like, look, you know, the the rappers go out and do all the work and their homeboys get shot and they get put in all these dangerous situations and they're doing all the work. And these he said, these record label people are sitting up in their office, even bagels with cream cheese on and making all the

money representation. You know, they get hold and then from their eight percent, they got to pay back all the other ship, right, so they're getting So he said, if that's not pimping, you tell me what is but data? You have been in dangerous situations, like you had a situation with You're pimp at one point where he beat you up pretty bad. You know. Um, I m was kind of naive, you know, because I have you know,

a big heart or whatever. And you know, I met somebody and I didn't know he wasn't who he said he was a catfish, you know, not who said he said he was. And you know allan he was. You know, come up, if I could make this much money by myself, then maybe with help, you know, I could triple that ship. But um, you know the guy was, you know, a fraud. So within a few weeks I realized he was a fraud. But he was like, you know, physically abusive, like you know,

guy who's bipolar or whatever. So he kind of like beat the ship out of me, you know, beating, you know, beat me up, put me in a like you know ice bath, you know, and beat me up some more. You know. I was you know before that, I was literally a human traffic victim. You know. So you know all that, you know, all that came around when she was in my life trying to you know, show me a different direction. So it's kind of like everything happened,

you know, for a reason. He you know, showed showed me, you know, a lot of value out of respect and how to respect myself first and help me turn my life to God. You know. Molly Mall was you know, Muslim. He didn't believe in christian you know Christmas, Yeah, Christmas, Thanksgiving, none of that, you know, and did me up? Yeah? Can you guys hear me? Yeah? But if you learn about the Muslim faith, like, uh, like did you learn being with Molly Ball, did you learn about the Muslim faith?

Are you Christian? I was? I was born and raised a Christian, you know, Christianity. Because people don't understand, like people think Christians are like the loud church and then Catholics are the quiet church, and then Muslims are Muslims and no, I'm nondenomination Christian you know, you are your Catholic, you know, you believe in Christianity. You believe she's not denomination, you know, Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ. So did you learn

about the Muslim faith? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, you know, definitely because it's it's a big, it's a whole like universe of a difference from Christianity. Yeah, and it's very militant. Know, there were situations where you know, um, you know whatever or whoever you know, would say things from the Koran

and kind of like use it against me. Yeah, and and be like, oh, if I like, you know, free, you know, if I free a slave, I'm gonna get granted to Paradise and all this like bullshit or whatever. And I'm like, yo, this is some weird Twilight Zone. Michael Jackson never never land ash ship, Like I ain't going for it, and you know whatever, you know, c

C brought me back to that. So you feel like you feel like, um, she made you, you know, like open your eyes a little more and oh yeah no no no no, no, no, no, no no no. He definitely gave me a reality check. You know, and he took me from you know, living you know, in a

facade and like actually gave me a reality check. And um, because I think when you when you hear about girls who decided to be escorts, at least for me, and I'm thinking, like, why would you go out and do this and go give all your money to somebody else?

And I'm sure people also to like, ye're a pretty girl, you don't even have So she explained it to me that it's you know, it's kind of it's their brain washed really, and so I think that was interesting that that c was like kind of trying to show now, you know, he was like, hey, do what you want to do. If you want to be with someone, be balanced,

you know, have something to show for yourself. But if you're gonna you know, you like everything that you know, everything that you're paying for, you already know, like you got a lot of game about yourself. You're a boss bitch. You know you could manage other you know models, webcam models or you know, whatever you want to do, you know you could do it by yourself. Are you friends with a lot of these women, like a lot of

these models and video fixes? I mean I wouldn't say that, because here's the thing, like I'm I speak my mind, you know what I mean. So I don't have a problem telling people what my past. You know, I don't have a problem telling people I'm an old hoe. You're not old but here. Yeah, but here's my thing. I don't know. I I don't have a problem you know,

speaking what I am. I keep it real. A lot of people don't do that, and a lot of people don't And there's you know, there there's been a lot of people, you know, within the past fourteen years that you know, started you know where I started. You know. They people you find out, oh she used to be an escort, but nobody ever wants to admit. Yeah, and then I feel like they're perpetrating what did Drea said? Drea said you could delete your hon nosver no no, no, no,

no no no. Let me tell you something now. Now I've known Drea, you know, for for a long time, you know, and for her keeping it real, you know, as far as the game goes, and me being a real ho you know, like I got turned out by a Kansas City pimp, you know. Not it's not about being a real no, no no, no, no, no game, no no no. If you chat, no no. If you know no no no no no no no real home. And now if somebody who's working, I'm no, no, I made seven eighty a year. You know, I take care of

my family. You know. First, you know my ship straight, you know, so from someone being a real home and understanding what she went through and where she's trying to go. At least she kept it real no matter what faced her, you know what I mean. So she wants to, if she wants to, if she wants to retire, delete her wholeness, you know, meaning I know, ho no more. At least she's keeping it real, you know, Alise, No, no, no, no, okay, they're okay delete your past like okay, okay, let let's

talk about basketball wins. Right. No, no, but I think, um, I just think. No, no, no, I agree. I understand where you're coming from, like you keep it real, like I'm real about my my past. Round people who are front and because most of these ninety nine percent of these video vixen No, Julia, Julia, Julia, what did he say? What did he say before before the video or whatever?

Oh so about the video you were in? Yeah, So the reason I reached out to Jada initially was because she was in a video, the U g K Game Belongs to Me video, and I did an interview with Cee. We used to do interviews like every month Frozen that he said, yeah he had a column in the zone.

Yeah he had a column and O zone. So we had done one interview where he was like, when when I get to my video shoots, I just fired all the video girls because I want to bring my my I bring a real hole because I'd rather have a real hole than fake hold. You know, I think I have audio clip, so you know what I like to do when I get to my video shaid, I'd like to just fire all the broads. It's not already there.

I just fire everybody, just home ship when my own crew of viches um, I'd rather put a real, live prostitute bitch on the set and then some bitch's been working with the director. They got promised spot here a break for the real holes off the track and put some real visions in this video and get like, let's get it like that. I have more respect for a real hold in the business. I said that he was gonna play a hole when I talked to the video director, he said, oh, you should talk to the girl was

in the video. So that's how I actually ended up interviewing Jada, And I thought that was It's a funny story actually, because well, basically he was, you know, I did a video shoot with him, you know, and I was in the streets. I was knee deep in the game. It was out of pocket for me to even communicate with another man, you know, So whenever I dealt with whatever,

I dealt it will see. He was like, you know, I'm tired of these frontline video hos that are out here faking like they're not hose, but they're fucking the video directors. They're selling pussy in the v I p you know, for cheap, for red fucking discount red bottom a handbag and a pair of red bottles that are on sale. Yeah, and and in the nine Gucci handbag. Whatever it all matters. So he's like, fuck these frontline

video hose. I'd rather have a real life prostitute, you know, than than a bitch sets out here playing like she's the hoe. You know. So that being said, you know, like, yeah, yeah, well let me ask I want to ask you all something and g I'm gonna start with you. How would you fail about dating a guy who everything was perfect but he wasn't a fighter. He was very passive, so you never felt like if y'all went out and something went down, I don't know if he's gonna shot out.

Yeah he'sa that's terrible, but everything else was great. You think you could date a guy that if it went down, we both might have to run and get out of the situation. Nothing you gotta fight, but you might be by yourself fighting. I'm gonna fight. What if he doesn't? What if you're we got a problem. Yeah, but I'm gonna hope that he's gonna hope me down because I'm gonna hold his ask down. What could you be with

a guy who's not tough? Uh, listen, I'm gonna tell you what I would like for a guy to be if something went down that I know he's gonna at least, you know, fight, I don't know if he's gonna win, But have to be the nobody that's gonna start you aggression, that's gonna start fights. I'd rather try to diffuse the situation. I'd rather be with somebody that we'll try to diffuse the situation before they try to escalate, as long as

he makes sure you're protected. Like, you don't want somebody's gonna leave you in a bad situation, right, But you don't want somebody that's gonna be aggressive and trying. What if he got with his boys and they get into it and he dips off and hops into a uber, right, I ain't been seeing with him again, because that's just like embarrassing. Everybody knows. I like, I like my boys. We know you better take up for me. I like

my definitely not. I'm working on it. I haven't mentioned my ex the whole show, man, I'm working on it. I read the comments. I've listening to your guys. I tell you got to mention him every time. We're about to make it a joke in the show that every time I mentioned my this is funny. You have everything

that's so funny. You said that because my ex, No, not my ex, one of my best friends from where I grew up, and Chelsea, he hit me up and he was like, he was like, Steph, I was listening to your show when Angeli Ye and we were playing a drinking game, and every time you mentioned your ex. We had to drink. You couldn't do it because we were like dying by like the drinking games with my ex. Police. Okay, you know what it is that I'm no no no, no, no, no no no. Not is that I was in a

relationship for a long time. I'm not that old, you know, I'm pretty young, and so a lot of my experiences with him, who you have a have a chald with him? I was cheating with him. Yeah, and I have a child with him, exactly. Well, everybody knows I cheated on him. Everybody's like, cool, I don't call him that. I don't like calling my son's father of my baby daddy. I think that's so that that this just degrading myself. I

don't like calling my baby dad my baby dad. I like calling my like calling my ex my ex or my son's father being again. We said it again. Thing right, We're gonna get a bell every time I said. The last thing I wanted to talk about on lip service today is body here. Okay. Now, I noticed a lot of guys it's high sometimes have been shaving their body here, shaving everything off. What do you think about dating a guy who has a lot of body here, should he

shave or should he leave it? If it's overly excessive, then manscaping is a must. I don't think that every guy should. It's just not every guy's thing. Laser Harry move works too. You guys should get lazer hairy moved if it's if it's overboard, if it's he's a hairy bear, that be hairless. If he's a hairy bear, and it's just like too much. But if he has like back hair, and and I hate when gods have hair like at their butt crack, like right above their buck crack, like

that means they got dingle berries. That it's horrible exactly for me. I don't I feel like if you're if you have a hairy chest, you know, hit it with the clippers, not the razor. You know, the razor makes it like it makes it. Yeah, it's gross. You like guys with Harry chests out. No, I have to see everybody that I've been serious with is a hairless man. Hairless man, like maybe they got hair on their legs, and what about their bass, but you know not what

about Harry boss. They turned the bell, they tried. I don't like hare in a pubic area. I don't like it. You hair in your mouth? No, no, the world somebody's dick and you get a pubic hair. Stuff kills it. Game over, came over. It's like really you're like and then you then you have to stop for a minute. You're trying to pull the hair out. Not it kind of kills like a like you know, hit it with

the clippers. I think gods, but I don't. Do guys have hair on your chest like the seventies, Yes they don't, but some men are just very hairy creatures. Right now with two thou guys go get to go to slot get laser hair removal to it immediately. I don't know if he's gotta get laser hair removal, but I've always done it. Was when guys do things like shave their

legs and stuff. I don't think guys should save their legs at if you like the hairy guys shave their legs, they have lingerie in their that Caitlyn Jenner in transition. They're in transition, right, What about you, Juliane? I would agree. I haven't had too many guys Harry guys, so I mean, I don't mind a little bit what about that wonder. No, I did date a guy like this was like in college, like a long time ago. He was very hairy and

he sweated so much. You'd have to like it was so it was so good that you know, it was mad and that I'm always cold and he was always hot, like but it was so bad, like you just have to change the sheets like every ok, that's every Yes, it was horrible gross that Romanian but Armanians are harry.

That's true though Armenians are really but now I um, you know, but you know when guys who aren't so hairy, they'll they'll grow like a little bit on their chests a little bit, a little bit, it's not a lot a lot, yeah, and light soft hair on there are Would you be mad if your boyfriend if you found out your boyfriend hide and escort because some people don't consider is that cheating? Like if a guy hires an escort?

Did you really just ask that question? I feel, can you because some guys don't look at it a cheating. I pay you for a service. I'm not mentally like you know, Okay, it depends on the situation when you know and me me being where I come from or whatever. Like, if a guy is a married man and I feel like he's not prepared to cheat, you know, then I'm just gonna give him lap dances, play him for his money,

and let him learn his lesson. You know. But there are some guys that you know, have traveling jobs, and you know, like I've said before, sometimes I you know, help marriages instead of hurt them. I'm not trying to keep their man. You know, at the end of the day, it might be more convenient for him to have a non physical you know, a relationship for an hour or to you know, with a woman and respect his home

to where his wife never finds out. Because men are men, men are dogs that way, you understand what you're saying. That's that's not that's not an intimate. Yeah, it's all relationship. I mean like when your man is cheating on you with someone he just mad different, he's doing it at a spite or because he didn't take the trash out or wash the dishes, there's some other bullshit. Then yeah, he's cheating. If he's having a physical, you know, an

emotional relationship with someone, that's cheating. If he goes to Boston and he's making two hundred thousand dollars for your household and you can't you know, you can't take care of him? Then you know, you out of sight, out of mind. He did not disrespect your household or your family. You know, it's real life. Let's keep it real. Do you want to lose your husband? Do you do you want to break your household up? Do you want to break up your family over your man? You know, having

you know, you know, physical versus emotional. If I find if I found out my man was with a process, who'd be really upset? Okay, thinking of it like that, I would prefer would prefer doing what I did? Yeah, me doing what me doing what I did? I would prefer, I mean, I I don't want him tricken, you know, spend a few dollars or whatever. Do what you want to do, go to the strip club, get dry humped, whatever.

Yeah that's how you feel. Yeah, if that's how you're feeling, do that before you exchange numbers with the girl and actually have some fake as dry ass conversation with a girl. How many guys that you've done jobs with have tried to actually get your number and keep in contact. I'm sure that happens usually the single ones, not the married ones.

The married ones actually respect their wives, you know, and it's it's sometimes I'm giving them relationship counseling and they're not even doing nothing because they have yeah, and they really just want, you know, the release. They just want to, you know, get things off their chest and not feel like a bit because you know, you know, we're dominant women, we might what do you what do you have to say?

Would you think about your man hiring an escort and you're finding out about a like exactly, I don't think your tired pussy. I don't think he has no he don't have to spend money on pussy because they just drop it in his leg because of who he is. Right, but if you found out, wouldn't bother you? I mean, and you know, awesome man, we'll go to the ship club and talk and get it's like therapy for them,

talk about their relationships and wise sometimes it does help. No, I'm very understanding when it comes to um sex, sex sexual physical right. And I feel like her perspective is the clear perspective or it makes it definitely makes sense, Like I would definitely rather that you have a one time release. They have an actual emotional relationship. Would you have to tell you or would you rather never know? I don't want to know. I don't want to know.

You know what? You don't you know? The escort isn't gonna call you like, yeah, I was just with your man exactly exactly. You pay them homes, You pay them hosts to leave. Yeah, you pay them home to leave and never call you back. So the situation more of the story. Guys, if you're gonna cheat, just pay for it in respect that our household. Don't start a hold in a relationship at you. Don't let that ship get back to your wife because you're gonna get sucked up.

What did you do? Nothing? I didn't say anything. I would say this that I do feel like, if you're with him in and he cheats on you and you decided to stay together, you can't bring up ship from the past. Exactly. Boom, I'm just being for real now, you know what it is. Women never do that. Women never bring up something in the past. And Julia, you took the doors out of my mouth because they'd be

the ones bringing up the shoot up. That's because they always But you want to bring us a motion, Well, what about the All right, well listen, I just want to think you're Julia Beverley. The book is available now, and you said Amazon is the best pace of Jonald's Pipsie's true life story. And this is a real book. It's not a small it's not and it's not a real book, expect the seven. I haven't read. I haven't read the book, but I want to. It's a real book.

I did real research the whole book. I want to read it. I got data, this picture and there looking a cute Now, it's not as messy as this segment might lead you to the service. I had to bring them exactly. It's not always. I think it was very educational for me. I wanted to learn more about the Hoe escort, all of that, so it was very education. She took me, take me to the escort service. I want to undercover, to the research service. Yeah, application she

signed up. Well, whenever we went undercover, I was retiring. Now she's been working on the book for four years. Are you like, are you done with the game? Are you do you have a pimp? Now? No, I got a sugar daddy. You don't need a pimp fast good, but no, no, Julia did four years, you know, of field research for the book. So I kind of like took her to an escort service office and let her sign up to kind of like I was in Vegas.

I was as some clients she was in. I was in Vegas for the Porn Awards, which that's the whole other story. But this is Jeremy and yeah, Ron, Jeremy, I don't really watch porn. So I didn't really know who the guy who won like best cock or something like offering a drink at the bar and that's great awards. It was actually like best what best cock award of vacation. I don't know who he was. He wasn't cute girl that you know, you know what? When they get there,

what was his name? I can it's some Spanish guy. I don't I don't remember. I really watched is it veiny? They okay? I was at the bar like before the show started, and he was like, do you want a drink or whatever? And I was like, know, I'm good or he got me like a bottle of water. And then later in the show they were like they were like the winner for best middle and it was a guy.

I was like, damn, I should him that I didn't tell people like if you meet them, you know, I want the best cock a word at the that's interesting, you might want this, buteces like they're they're acceptance speeches, are like they really give acceptance speeches, like I'd like to take my co stars. My parents got day. It's

just funny. Yeah, they take it very my dad. But they had this thing and I didn't take it very seriously because they had like weird categories like exactly so you know, I want like cover model of the Year. And I didn't show up because I wasn't taking it very seriously. But the categories just had me. It just threw me away off. I felt like it was a little branchet like best cock of the year. But you know, my when belong there were half the models getting checks.

That's so you might not have belonged there. But that's exactly the thing I told me. I was like, if you want me to come to Atlanta for these awards, I need to be getting paid. So if you're not gonna pay me, get me booked at some clubs where I'll make two or three thousand dollars whole party. You know what I mean. I'm not coming. I'm not gonna spend my money. And my man was just like, oh, you don't have to spend anything. I'll pay for the flight. And I'm like, well, it's just like I don't leave

the only thing I don't leave my door. If I'm not working, I'm not I'm not leaving my house. I enjoy being home. If there's not money on the other side of the door, I'm not leaving my house. So I never went to Urban Model Awards, but the categories were kind of awkward, man. But so I was in Vegas. I was in Vegas for the Porn Awards and I was in the process of researching for the book. I had just interviewed Jada and so she I told her I was in town. She said, well, do you wanna

I'm going to the escort service. Do you want to come with me and see what it's like. I was like, yeah, not so yeah. I filled out a fake application and did anybody like hit you up? No? They were like, Natasha, Julia, if you had to get if you got int aware, what would your award be for an award for what like a port of where what would yours be? A triathlon? That's award. I don't know what your porn a word be.

Guys always tell me about my legs, so I don't promise legs or something like the best pussy you wouldn't get like the best Dickson reward is you're trying to get me to chalk dirty. We are best best best pussy thrust. Okay, there we go wrong with my best squarter. No, you square it up now. I saw a rapper like tongue kiss of porn star like in front of me. I was like, I was like trapped between them in the middle of the Kid's very traumatic for me. Can't

see that he's married, but it was a traumatic experience. Well, I didn't know, Julia squirts jeezy if you got an award at the Porning Words or would your A worby best pole Dancers, She's like, I don't know. Um tug it to the mic. I would win for best overall performance. What would your A worthy? Stephanie Mines would be best back shots? Okay, that's back shots the whole world. What was your A word by? My best to word and pussy grip. I don't have to pussy grip. My word

would be you know. That's like first second grip, she got the pussy grip A word that's trick fuck. That's now you have to explained because she explain that to me. I had Do you want to demonstrate it? What's a trick funck? Yeah? Please? I had to learn. No, I don't happen to have a banana sharpie, a sharpie especial behind you, something like a tube yea too. Okay, all right, let's see what this is. I'm curious on my lab. Yeah, okay, okay,

let me explain gets lab. Okay, okay, here's the thing, right, and in the industry that I was in, you have to you know, there there's a saying it's called, you know, trick fucking because the guys are intoxicated or out their mind or they ain't kind of pussy in fifteen years, so they don't really know what it pussy feels like. So you can kind of like you know, loop them up with a condom and you know it's kind of

like fake sex. Okay, so so show us. Okay, so they're really you know, like whatever, Yeah, they're really you know, their cock is kind of like between you're like pussy, but you didn't really put that in you don't put it in. Yeah, but you're kind of like, you know, dry humping them, and so they think it's they think it's in, but you're really you're going to demonstrate. Are you ready? You can say, but we can't. Okay, So hold this like it's your wiener. Put some prel on that,

on that sharpie. Put some pre le on that sharpie. Good you coming. I wish we are some people, some people are the size of a sharpie. Okay, give them some love tonight. Give me that bottle. Damn, a smaller bottle, not that big nothing magnum of hair. Take the mic with you. That's better. Oh that's a nice I like I like that that. That might be a little it's gonna demonstrate chick fucking Now, this is different from wrong.

Whole fucking okay, that's all wrong, your girl. So you know, if you ever, you know, like for the team, you know, but they're they're drunk, is fuck, you can kind of cut it, make them think that they got some pussy and I'm pretty but they did it. Yeah, so you'll, you know, you'll be on top of them and you're you know, well, you know, your cakes look like miss and you gotta put your hand like this, but you know, so you hold it with your hand. Yeah, you hold

it with your hand, and that's the cop. And they think that they're getting the pussy because you know your fake writing. Never Yeah, and you're like, oh, daddy already the sticks feels so good? Yeah? Jee does that feel real? Kid? Kidding? She likes some real stuff. But no, I get get award for better. Do you have anything to say in your acceptance speech? I'd like to academy good job. P g al must bested off. No, but you know what, no matter what you're doing, as long as you're being

safe and you're being clean. Well, no, there's a condom ahead will be here for hour and twenty minute. She's used at three times, you know, and you might have assess it composed disorder, you know. You know in my past of giving hand jobs all types of time, I got to pure all my hands. Have you know, surgical gloves and condoms. There's no requires a lot of preparation, right what It requires a lot of preparation, Yeah, it's

and it's and skill and experience safety. It's not easy job in between wipe yourself down or do you have to show what Oh, yeah, I gotta shower. Even strippers have the shower in between. Stay set. Sometimes you don't pussy. A lot of girls don't know how to clean their pussy. A lot of girls don't even know how. And why, I like, you gotta get really clean exactly crack, you know, out the crack, and you gotta pen that little that little piece between your ass and your pussy to make

sure it's really, really, really clean all the time. You hate this, Julia, not Harry and not Harry hair. Some guys like Harry Pussy Just so you holder had a lot of songs about Harry. Yeah, guys like Harry Pussy. So I kind of was in jail one time and I had I kind of wasn't jail. Where are you jail? Were you kind of in jail? Used to be in and out of jail, I have. I've been criminal free for seven years. But whenever, you know, I was in

the out of jail. You know, I had called see you know, with my mom on three Way and it was like macause you call my front save Yeah, you know that was my partners. So I'm like, I need you know, I need somebody who left me up. I'm in jail. So I had called seat and the nigga shopping a voicemail songs how mad I was gonna leaving a voice message and his voice, his voice small, said Mary, Mary, wide and scary. How does your pussy hair grow? I was like, MoMA, that's it, it's over. What were you

in jail for? In and out and and now? Yeah? Twenty five days, thirteen months? I was, yeah, were you born in another country? Um? From your American? But your your Mexican. Nah. My grandma would have, you know, pulled a chain out her couch and what somebody for calling her Mexican? So what are the American? My grandfather straight off the boat from Spain to Louisiana. My grandmother is a Choctaw Native American. My dad's Filipino. So you're just

you're not Latino. I'm Latin. My father some Spain, but Spanish that Spanish and and Latin like Puerto Rican, Dominican, Mexican, that's Latino. Spanish is some Spanish. She's like, no, Latina, Spain, Spain conquered the Philippines. That's right, that's Spanish. Let me tell you. My father is no Why I tell why? I say This is because my father is from Spain, straight off the boat from Spain. He's a he's a

white man. Yeah, but yeah, my grandfather was white with wise exactly Spanish, you know, and he was so lad he died. May he rest in peace. Used to tell me all the time, Remember you're half Latino and half Spanish. And he used to tell me that all the time, Like what, it's the same thing, and that's what she's over here saying the same thing. She's like my father. He used to because you know, my father's family didn't like Mama. But just like it was very racist towards

my mother. No, everyone was very Puerto Rican. Like I said, my grandmother would have whipped out it. Yeah she's Spanish, so you know, he's like, just remember there's a difference between Latino and Spanish. Before he died, this is on his death as Spanish. As a Spanish white is a white person, Old Scholas. That is right there, Wena lie with what everybody was. I need to go to answerstry dot com. And you know they have the islands, those

are Latinos. You know, they call us Latinos. But you know from when you're in Spain, if you tell them, Oh I'm Spanish. They're like, how right? My father's white? Answers she today, and I learned about trick fucking? Is that what's called? Because if you ever yeah, yeah, bit dick, let's do that, especially like what are you doing comes home when he has whiskey dick and you don't want to wear out your kidty oh my god, girl, just and just go ahead and put some lube on it.

He ain't ever gonna know, I promise you that, and you know, just ride him backwards with you know, somebody need to do a song called trick. No, But Jada, I agree with you, like I feel like you learned my pussy when he's trick because they got whiskey did they ain't never gonna come? You want to suck me for like two hours, like you're never gonna come. They got whiskey dick, and you need to tell him, nigga, you got whiskey dick. You gotta go to bed. It's

so right, all right, ladies, that was lift service. Jada, thank you so much for coming. Do we learned a leaf from you today. We appreciated This is another episodes where I'm like, yeah, today took dot com no book. Yeah, I think. I think real readers, real who like who like to know knowledge you want to get into your Amazon and even people you know, young artists that are trying to learn about the music industry. I I can honestly say, he put me on so much game you

know about the music industry. It will give you some information that will help you get fucked in the long run. So literally, if you knew better, you do better. Class get the book, pimpcy book dot com, and you know, you get some game about. This is a real book. It's not a hundred and thirty five pages. It's a real book. Definite is like, I don't care if this pictures in it. This is seven hundred pages. It's real.

It's real. This is a real book. Would thank you so much lip service G G. Stephanie, J. J McGuire, Pepane Santiago. Thank you