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Episode 117: Feat. Nick Hawk

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Nick Hawk, star of Showtime's reality show 'Gigolos,' sits with ladies of Lip Service and shares a variety of stories involving his career as a male escort.

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Guess she's back in the motherfucker house. That's right. It's a lip service. Your mouth don't go like that something. Um, okay, you take it too far. I was just trying to use the part that was appropriate, but it's lip service. I'm Angela Yee, I'm Stephanie Santiago, I'm gg maguire, I'm Gloria. Now we got Nick Hawkey's back again. What's up? What's up? What's up? Let me tell you. I was catching up on Jiggielow by the way, you know, just to kind of look at certain things from It was actually very

very interesting certain things that I was noticing. And I know we're gonna talk about your book in a second, but um you guys are really great at identifying how to connect with women, like probably more than the average man. And I kept thinking like, is this game or do they care for real? Or are they like this is just a job. It's all the above. It's it's game. But yeah, number one, we got to make the client comfortable. And that's saw That's definitely a skill that we need

to learn early on. And if you fail like that, you got you got nowhere to go, right, Because I feel like men like escorts for a different reason than women like them for wouldn't you say a little bit um? I think I don't know if men would admit to getting a woman for the same reasons most women get a man for. But I think everybody has the same wants and desires at the end of the day, men

or women. One of the most interesting things you did was you had sex with the women who couldn't Well, you didn't have sex with her because it was too painful for her. She has some what was it called vogue? I was trying to pronounce it. You don't remember either, but but she it was so she had something wrong where like it was too painful for her to have sex like ever, I'm so sorry to hear that. Yeah, is it like a certain dick size or she just nick maybe you wouldn't expand on man. That was like

a quick shoot. I don't really remember that much about it. Yeah, it was. I think it was a condition. It didn't make that much sense to me. But then I'm sure that's not something that often happens, Like, was that the only time that ever happened? It happens every time, but but this one, no, Yeah, we just we just had some solo play, right, Yeah, yeah we didn't. We didn't like you tied her up and you did some fun. Yeah, you still have some fun. Can you imagine not being

able to have sex because it's too painful? Way she couldn't could she do? A know? Like? Was that her normal? I mean, if she can't take it in her vagina? No, but it's like something wrong we had with her vagina, but is meant to expand. Yeah, but I've heard of Remember we had um someone else? Um? Remember when we had um and it was too painful her? What's his name? The guy who has a podcast the graph senting no

my favorite premium pete. Yes, Remember he spoke about how he met a girl and she could only get fun than the ask because she remembered where her vasa was really small, like probably the same thing, right, That's that's what it sounded like. That's why I was I'm sure she couldn't have you know, I don't think that affects the anus too, And right, you know, there's man I think it'd be I don't. I don't know if I

want to go there. But you know, there's there's there's other there's there's other ways and it almost be a relief in some ways, I think, to not to not have to have sex, worry about the complications of sex and getting pregnant, and then but you're still with someone and still getting satisfied. You know, there's there's definitely more

ways to satisfying women than just having sex. But about like men, I feel like men have to have sex, but women I think would be all right without it, if they were satisfied in the inappropriate But then what man, because you have that, would you know what I'm saying, you have like no man went and get tired of sucking an asshole, know, I guess. And it's more I hope it's you know, more than that most relationships anyways, where it's it's an emotional connection and everybody's got to

get off, you know how they get off. You know, there's there's different ways to do that. No, I understand, I understand. I mean I put me personally, I don't think I would be satisfied without you know, having actual but if it was too pain but you would have to, right, That's what I'm saying. But what he's saying is right, there's other ways, like I can come without anything going inside of me, you know what I mean? So yeah, yeah, right, you can always be a lesbian too, right, but lesbians

do they't so don't have to. They don't have to wait each other like fingers just not a dick because the fingers are small, So that probably don't hurt. That's doing that because you're long nails and making me hurt. You that sparkly galactic nails for the moon and beyond. Now you have this book out, one Kicks in the Ass, right, a guide to gaining confidence and reaching your full potential. So I was gonna said, let me ask you this, what's the reason that you've ever had to cut somebody

off like in your life? For what? Just? I mean, like, what's the reason to be like that person is toxic to me? I can't funk with them anymore. I cut a lot of people off in life. I don't. I don't let anybody drag me down anymore. I don't care if it's family members, I don't care. How long have you know the person? Yeah, yeah, somebody should not be in your life just because they're a family member, end of story. I don't. I don't care how much you've

went through, how much they've they've done for you. If they're they're toxic to you, if they don't support you, if if they you know, abuse alcohol or drugs, and then and they then they weigh you down, and they don't give you the guidance and support that you need. They should not be in your life. But you've had issues too, so I'm sure that you know people have given you other chances like second to it's his thirty chances.

You know, you gotta be a little bit like it's I know, you don't have to immediately cut someone off, obviously approach him an intelligent manner and have a conversation with them. This I'm not liking this. You're being too negative. You're weighing me down. I don't like it. You know, we don't we don't have to see eye to eye on everything, but you know, I don't like. I don't like the way you you you approach me. I don't like. I don't like your your attitude or if it's usually drugs,

a drug and alcohol problems. That's the main reason why I cut people off, people who you know, I can't keep their ship together and they're incompetent because of that. What about you ladies cutting somebody off. Like the last time you cut somebody off, it was the reason, um heng I've cut people off for numerous problems. Betrayal, lying, stealing. You know, lying, it's good, I think lying. Yeah, somebody stole from you. That's sucked up. Yep, Like though what

your man or its money? Money? Okay? Yeah? When I said man, she was like no. But you know what, it's hard to accuse somebody is stealing money because how can you really prove it? Sometimes when somebody okay, let me paying the scenario because you know, sometimes it's hard. You're like, kind of scenario. You have someone go pick up money for you for an important reason that you need it for, and they pick up the money and spend it on what they want to spend it on

and never give you the money. WHOA, Well, that's a that's stealing. Yeah, that's definitely stealing. That's beyond still and that's because you that's bold. Well need the whole thing with, you know, second chances and forgiving people. Um, I'm not a fan of forgiving somebody. We we never forgive some when someone wrongs you, we don't forgive them, even if we say that or the accept their apology or they

however sorry they are. We never we never fully restore that that trust, that amount of trust that we had in somebody. So once you know someone wrongs you, steals from you, or something like that, you know they're they're cut down, and you can keep cutting them down more and more and more. You can cover a little bit. You're never gonna get all the way back to up to where you were. You're not gonna have that that full trust if you do something horrible like that. You know,

we're desperate at times. We make mistakes, and you can, you can recover from that ship. But if somebody keeps going down and down and down, there's a point where you need to cut them off for good. What about in a relationship if somebody teach on you and then you forgive them, say, don't you think sometimes it could make your relationship stronger. Well, we we shouldn't have committed relationships in that way to begin with. You know, I don't. I don't. My life. My philosophy on dating is, um

he sounds like every man before you finish. I feel that we should. We should, everybody should. The most intelligent way to approach a relationship is in an open manner, not not a wide open manner, in a trustfully open manner. I don't think it's healthy to be completely tied down to somebody without any boundaries to explore. And if you're with somebody and you trust them and you have this, this commit admits some type of open, you know, restraint. I think it's best not to hear about what goes

on outside of that. I do. That's something else that we we can touch on. But you should have freedoms to explore out because most of the time, when you go out and explore and you you have fun, you funk around with somebody, you realize what you got back at home, and that shouldn't sunk up everything. And when you make that commitment and say I'm never going to sleep around and I will never betray you, I'll never be with another woman, you know, it's it's a lie.

You know, you know, it's just like just like marriage. And I don't support marriage either. It's it's it's not a real commitment. You don't know who you're gonna be tomorrow, much less weeks from now, much from much less who they're gonna be. I I don't like it. I don't like the foundation of that's what what's that built? And having everything based on just one one time like like one like one one promise. You can't promise somebody forever, and uh why not? You like, you don't know who

you're gonna be tomorrow, you really don't know. You can say it right now, right now, right now, right now. I love you, I plan on I it's great to be in a relationship that's that's committed and grow with somebody forever. But you can't promise somebody forever. You don't know who you're gonna be. I hope, I hope that we stay together. We can reminisce, we can have all this free and we can. Yeah, that's what you do. That's that's a good thing with being in a long

term relationship. You can look back on things that you've done and re explore those things and grow. But people grow apart, and and it's it's okay, no no, no, no, no, no no wait wait wait okay, can I go? That goes? That is in my turn. I you know, I feel like to each his or her own opinion all the time, you know what I mean. But I think that you can find someone and you can continually grow with them. It's continually a word, it is, Okay, I just wanted

to be continuously. Yeah, it's both both the words. Okay, Okay, you know, but you guys know what I'm not gonna record, all right. You know, I think you can. I think you could, you know, grow with somebody forever. I feel like you can. You can change and you are going to change, just like what I said, you know, just like you know change, You change every day. Yesterday I might have felt some way about something that I feel totally different about today. But I feel like you can

find that love where you can grow together. That's that's that's that's what we hope for. That's that's that's what we want. But if you marriage, if you marry somebody, you promise them forever, you commit to them forever, and something happens like they do in over cases now, but then when something and then it's then it's then it's a lie because you promised them forever. You should never promise.

But you know what, because then if if it happens and you do grow apart like over of relationships do now, then it's it's okay, and you guys can stay friends, and it's not no, you're leaving me. You lied to me, and then there's this hostile This is what I always say. This is what I always say about relationships, Like people are so focused on cheating, you know, people betraying each

other with other people, you know, in a relationship. But I always say, there's so many other things that could be a problem, and is a problem growing apart, you know what I mean? And I just feel like, you know, yeah, people grow apart, for sure, But in relationships, when something happens, when there's something, when something happens, somebody did something wrong, something happened, and financial reason and financial reasons people. I mean,

it doesn't happen every day. It might not happen with me, It might not happen with you, It might happen with all of us, who knows. But people can work on those problems and stay together and grow together, and you know, and and not live happily ever after, but live love one person. Happen right now, but maybe when you're like right, listen, I'm not gonna lie. I always say this. My ex boyfriend's mom told me that men settle down when they get too old and lazy to run around anymore and

they just settled in. I'm down for a committed relationship. I'm open to having someone continually in my personal life. I just I think it's a mistake to promise somebody forever. I don't think it's something that we can honestly do because we don't know who we're going to be in the future. And I think it's a mistake to commit to somebody and tell them I'm never going to sleep

with somebody ever again. And then if you do once in both of those situations, if you do, and it usually happens, usually if you're with someone for ten twenty years, usually someone's gonna gonna sunk up. And it shouldn't be that big of a deal once once again, when you go outside and explore and you do funk up, you realize what you have at home. But and then when

you do, that shouldn't ruin everything. I don't feel like it should be thatgree I'm confused as to what you think I'll commit a relationship is because with your occupation, you do things, So would you stop doing things if you were in a No, I don't plan and stop doing that ever ever. Ever, I would commit to somebody in my personal life, and she would be the only one that I'd be with in my personal And I

think that work is working. That's fair. But but if somebody means you and that's what you were doing and he's honor, I would never be with somebody and tell her I don't want if I was with somebody, to tell I don't want to sleep and around for a lot of dudes. If if it happened, I don't want to know about it. That's that's what I would tell her. If you if I'm not fulfilling you, if you're not

you're not happy, just be honest with me. And you know, I think that you can find a woman who will only sleep with you and be okay with your job. It has it hasn't been a problem exactly. I think you can find I am open and honest about that ship. Yeah, you know. I why not get married? You've seen the show? Google me. Why not get marriages based on something I don't agree with her? Okay, whatever, I think marriage was beautiful.

I like I'm I'm I'm a romantic. I'm I'm a hopeless not a hopeless romantic, but a romantic a little bit. And I like a little bit, a little bit one weekend here and there, you know, a couple of times a year. Romantic. I don't. I don't know anymore. What is what is romantic to me? I kind of I wasn't.

I was only thinking it is caring. Romance is the little thing I feel like if because roadmance is kind of a lost just hitting it off with somebody and not worrying about anything else that's going on, and just being in the moment in time with them and enjoying that that night and weekend. And this has happened with with clients as well, where I lose myself with them. We just have this great connection and everything's flowing great. But yeah, how much do looks matter when you have

a client? Like? Can you be attracted to somebody but not be attracted to how they look physically? You can be more attractive to someone than than others. I prefer a fit woman, you know, I don't. I don't mind being with uh an overweight women. They just they just need to take care of themselves, you know, hygiene smelling good. There's a lot of pussy eating on that show, and I always wondered, does it ever happen like with somebody hygienically is like a little bit of a turn off. Yeah,

for sure. I mean that's that's the it's it's a it's a common thing with women I wish not not with Yeah, well, this is something I found out when I was a stripper, So hold on one second, but this is with with my well and and when women have their period, after their period, they don't awesome down there. That's you know, it is a common thing. It happens once a month, is just about every woman. But no, most most of my clients take take very good care

of themselves. But now, when I used to strip and do Bachelor Right parties, I uh we we you know, they placed dollar bills all over and put in the pants and everything, and I'd go down in the pants and grab the dollar bill out of the pants. And I was just dumbfounding on how many girls I that smelled bad down there. It blew me away how often that happened. Literally, it literally is yes, no, that's not good.

And a lot of women out there don't know that, Like, there shouldn't be any unless it's right after your period. There shouldn't be any smell down there. At all. You need to take care of yourself. You need to talk to your your doctor kind of colleges. You need to change your diet somebody you don't do. Yes, you have. Yeah, yeah, I've told a few planes. How do you say? How do you say it? Tellaria right now that yeah, I'm not letting letting up emails best with very carefully worded

words to you know, make them not feel horrible. Yeah, to make them not feel horrible about themselves. Ship. But what if you're about to go down there and it happens, do you tell them like, here's a wet white boy, so you just still go in? Older when you're talking about decent you're not talking about like a musty odor, you're talking about an older from the inside, like an

unhealthy one. Not like I was out all day and he liked fish, Like Yeah, I can't believe how many girls I pulled that dollar out of their pants smelled. I couldn't. I didn't think that was a getting back to that too many? So many, Like ladies, if you're going to go to a bachelorette party and there's gonna be strippers, like they really you know, being your body, like take a bath, us, and I don't get it. I think I think one of the biggest mistakes is you can over cleanse it. I mean, it's it's a

it's a bacterial system down there. It's it's its own system, and you can't funk with it too much and tamp do that. Sex. Sex can suck you up real bad too, you know. And uh, you know. So that's that's something women need to know as well. And and some women douche and clean too well. Down there it's it's its own environment and it takes her infection. Yeah, but if if it smells bad, you have a yeast infection, yeah, you gotta get that cleaned up. You gotta have that

taken care of. Now, what if somebody hired you and they had a yeast infection and they didn't say anything about it, and then, now, what what do you mean if I you know, let's just say you come in there and you're like, oh, ship, there's like cottage cheese or something like, do you just leave? Like what happens? If that happened, what I had address that? You'd have to address that. You know, a little a little unpleasantness down there isn't and the world it smells bad. Nothing's

gonna happen. But you probably say something about that, right, I don't. I don't want to go there. It doesn't happen. I don't. I don't think it's good. I hope it doesn't. But I would address that situation a time that you couldn't get an erection, not when, not when I wanted to, and I used to. I used to take pills. That I don't take pills anymore. I don't put anything unnatural

in my body anymore. UM, and you when I used to struggle with some of these fears and anxieties, and in the beginning, UM, if I didn't have a pill and I was in some type of situations, you know, there's there's a lot going on, though you know I asked. My book says I had horrible anxiety and confidence issues. When I was a child. I was scared to speak up in front of my family at the dinner table

and at or something. I faked that that was I was in school, Yes, I was scared to that to get called on, you get called on in class to answer a question or or something like that, because I had freak out and I had panic and I would have to come up with ship and I faked a fucking heart attack when I was a kid and fell on the floor, Like I haven't heard that. It just came to me more energy getting myself out of that situation. Then it's just so pointless to have this fear. We

do these ridiculous things and it's senseless. And as I talk a lot about that in the book, and so I had a lot of these fears and anxieties that I was getting over when I started jiggalo in a little bit. And uh yeah, if I allowed that fear and anxiety to take over, because we have this, you know, the the fight or flight or fight response to and that happens when you put yourself in a situation that

you're not comfortable in. And when that happens with men too, we withdraw blood from certain areas, so it even makes it harder to get maintained get or maintained in direction. It's like I had this issue. I talked about this in the book too, how ridiculous it was. I was. I was nervous about dick size and room as all kids are in high school and whatever. He's in wrestling and football, and I was nervous about my dick size, and that caused your causes your dick to go in

and the blood to come in. So it was nervous to lesson in itself right there. How stupid it is to be to have this anxiety and fear at any any point in time. And that's crazy because guys really do compare dick's eye, Like, let's be clear, but like, how do we do this? Like you're just like line up like all right, everybody? No, they don't do it like like that Tuesday, any girls look at asses and stuff looking at I don't be comparing us girls look at asses. I look. I can't say right now, I

got the smallest ass in the room. Well, you have Asians, so you gotta is what it is. That means I also got the tightest pussy in the room, all right now. And don't get racist. Okay, that's what they say Asians, they say. So wait, Nick, is there like a racial makeup to the pussy? Like would you say that? Like different races have a different field, Like could you fuck a girl and know what race she is if you

couldn't see it? Man, that's that's a good question. But I folded, No, man, Not every pussy is different, and that's that's something I actually I want to look into a little bit. I'm curious. I'm curious certain races have certain pussys. I don't think so. I think because I've been with variety. I've been. It's mostly white, mostly white women. Mostly. Yeah, I've been. I've been with just about every race, but

mostly white women. But I've seen the variance between. It's you wouldn't have no idea if you just cut that out of a picture or something. They're they're small to big no matter what what race you are, with what size you are, they very so much everything. There's no two pussies are the same, not even close. You, lady, are special. Yeah, pussy is like nobody else is pussy. Have you ever seen an ugly pussy? Come on? Of

course some beat up ones. Yeah. Too much meat hanging and ship It's not often, but too many curtains, Yeah, roast beef a male? Do you love squirting like when women squirt? Or is it like love it? Um? It's it's it's a turn on. It's it's it's a turn on for me a little bit. Um it's it's messy though, man, the squirters i've been with. It's a lot like you gotta throw the mattress out after Yeah, you gotta put a tarp down. I don't know where all this I've been with a few of them. I don't know where

all the fucking liquid I'm from. I'm like, what the funk? I'm ready for her to pass out or turn away or float away, turning the dust I never had. Definitely, I've done it before. I don't do it all the time. I have done it a lot. I'm telling you, ruins, it's a it's a mess, but you can. They have a little mat for that, right, I love it bad? Yeah, but we can. I've never even seen that, Like no, because guys like it. I don't understand it's a mess. And then I got to sleep in a bottle. I

like like turning the sleeping in the puddle. Me turning on a woman turns me on more than anything else. If it's moaning or gestures or orgasm ng or squirting, I know that she's really turned on. So that that's what I feel like. I feel like guys like it so much because they feel like they did something like right right part of it. I'm now you also sending. But sixty of adults can't go ten minutes without lying. That's a study, right, So that means somebody here live.

I think it's it's much higher than that. It's one person those can't go ten minutes without lying. I think that's crazy. Well, there's there's different the lines perception and just because you're you're not telling the full it's It's what I talked about in there was people not operating at their full potential who have done this whole self discovery thing and they know and they're they're acting who

they should be. And the person you should be is a person is a genuine person who you're most confident asked, and that's the person you should be. So I think a lot of people they're they're they're selling themselves short and they're lying. They don't even know it because they haven't found who they are. So it's a it's a little deeper than just what do you find yourself like? Because I'm sure you discovered a lot about yourself as you were writing this as well. Right, So much so

much for sitting in that interview chair. For Jigglows, we get interviewed out every Friday. They asked me just about every question they could ever think of and every interpretation of that. I learned so much in that chair, and I knew writing this book that I was gonna, you know, even take that even further. So that motivated me to to write the book as well. Yeah, you learned so much because you know you want to this this is

in print forever. This is a part of my legacy, and this is kind of my bible, and I want to help a lot of people with this, and I want to have the right information in there. So I did a lot of dig and a lot of soul searching and a lot of research to do it. What did you find that you were lying about, like when you had to go through this, and like, what were some things that you felt like you weren't completely honest?

And sometimes we lie to spare of the people's feelings, you know, like you said, and living in your tooth is really the best thing to do. But what do you find it for people's feelings? That's that's funny that that you say that a little bit, and that's that's a you things that I hit I hit on a lot. I think we're we're a very weak society. Of very babying society. Um, we we let ship fly that we shouldn't. Too many of us operate at at low levels and

and allow other people to bring us down. And we we pat them on the fucking back and rub their rub their head and tell them, no, you need to you need to get your ship together. You're you're better than this. You need you need to pull together and stop bringing everybody else down. Um. You find that your job as a jigglo is kind of to lie to your clients, sometimes too though, to make them feel good. Like if somebody comes in to do it, I can't

do it. I'm not that guy. And in some and I used to do it too, just like fish for compliments, to think that this is what they needed. I actually I have. One of the kicks in the book is is it talks about the compliments and how unnecessary they are. I don't. I don't like to be complimentared. I wish we had more of a mentality, Like I feel like when someone compliments me, it's almost them suggesting that they thought I need did the compliment? What if they just

meant it? Yeah? I don't. I don't think they're necessary. We we have we have a horrible outlook on this when when we look good, when we feel good. So if we're not feeling good, you shouldn't compliment somebody when they're not when they're not feeling good, when they're not on point, when they're not taking care of themselves. But sometimes we think we look like ship right. Other people think that we look amazing, and people like how you look.

You know what I'm saying, Like we're having our sweats, no makeup here on a ponytail. Yeah, you're probably well rusted and feeling good. That's that's feeling good. And you talk about that too. How important sleep is crucial? The key that less than one percent and one percent of us get enough sleep. I know I sleep so much happening. You're co operating at our full potential, which very few people do you know? We need nine to ten hours

of sleep every night. I would love to. That's a lot about new studies suggests that they just study with people alone. They said, uh, seven and a half hours plus a ninety minute nap. Is they determined this in some way, shape or flo We need that. You need to understand what's happening when we sleep, When, when when we're sleeping, we're rejuvenating, we're healing ourselves. I honestly believe we can live hundreds of years, hundreds of years like

a vampaign. Nobody takes care of ourselves that the way we could. Nobody operates at their full potential. Yet to meet one person who operates at their full potential, and that's sleeping, hydrating property, nutrients and challenging ourselves, being creative, socializing us, being in control of our sexual energy, approaching the world in the in the most intelligent manner. Nobody does it. But you canna say staff, I wish I could do that. I wish I could be on that.

But I was going to say that. I sleep about seven and a half and sometimes sometimes I smoke so much weed in the middle of the day that I just fall asleep and I think I hit that ninety minute. You're not balanced, and you're not You're not fully balanced though it's not you actually needed. But even more, the weed is messing up. It's it doesn't you You stn't properly cycle through your sleep schedule when when you when you smoke weeds such it's just like any other drug head. Yeah,

most I just that's the wait. What is the joint to my sleep schedule? The weed. It's not allowing you to sleep as productively and efficiently as you can be. You're not falling into run sleep as quickly as you could. You're not staying there as long as you could because so how could I get there? I'm gonna give you the sleep monitor thing that I had to go to as gave me so you could try it. If it monitors your sleep that I sleep a lot, I could

do that. There's lots of things I recommend. One of the biggest things I recommend with sleeping in some type of white noise machine. I prefer brown noise. It's a lower it's a lower sounding. It drowns out noise, especially here in New York when you got all that ship going on in the street there. Everybody here in New York ship should have one of these machines that drown out these noises. Just because you're unconscious for seven or eight hours doesn't mean you had seven eight hours of

productive sleep. You have someone next to you moving around. You're here in ship in the distance. Once again, we sleep in in these four cycles and we go to rem sleep. Were halfway through rem sleep and we hear something in the distance or some conscious does when we're sleeping. It can pull you back to stage one and not wake you up all the way and you don't realize that that messed up your whole sleep cycle. In your your back with the TV on and I don't see this.

I don't sleep. If it's a consistent TV is tricky. If it's a consistent noise, it could be beneficial. But no, there's the sleep machine is I can't sleep with the TV on. I find I can't sleep with the TV on either. But you're like you like you like. If there's an app that I use, it's called white Noise and it it has a ocean. Yeah, it has ocean and all that oceans not I don't. I don't recommend

anything that's not consistent, like a crashing wave. It's not consistent, so I think that disturbs your a lightning store at the lightning going off. But if it's consistent rain or a waterfall. I can't sleep without the sound of the A C like from the central sounds like that. It sounds like a fan, and I think with a fan on tours. I noticed last night it was kind of cold, and I was trying to sleep. I couldn't sleep without the I'm sleeping. I had to turn the A C on.

Still I still had to turn I can't sleep. No, I have to sleep, and it has to be freezing. You know my in Alaska. Yes, she comes to my house and I'll be like coming and it's crazy, what's wrong? Give me a blanket, it's cool because I can't like that. I like to sleep with and I like to sweat under this. It's so hard to day somebody if you have like different temperature security because I used to date this guy that was always hot and he was like, oh,

it would be mad cold, but I'm always cold. Oh no, you guys working, And yeah, it was not working for me. It was snowing outside. This motherfucker had the window wide open. I can't get way to sleep. I think I like ten blankets on top me, but I think it was Harry and it was like Harry, like I don't know what he was on, but like it had to be below fucking ten. I can't sleep. I can't do it him because of that ship. I'm dead. And I get up to the bathroom and I swear it's so cold,

my bones are hurting. But then I run back to the bedst got a time around my ship now, so I shut it off two hours before I wake up, and then usually it works. But I don't dream at all. Oh that's smart. I don't know. If I don't dream of I don't remember that you. I don't remember my dreams. Ever, I work on that. I don't know how I'll tell you the um when. One of my kicks in my book is control your dreams, because it's it's about controlling

your your subconscious as well. UM. The best way to remember your dreams is we usually forget him not immediately upon waking, but shortly after. So it's going to have a dream journal next year. Bad Usually you'll remember something. It's it's even if you have alarm wake you off. Um, a good percentage of the time, it's gonna wake you up when you're when you're in the dream state, and

then immediately write it down. And then more you write the dreams down, the better you will be with remembering them. But lucid dreaming, it's something that I'm dabbling with as well, And this is some really interesting stuff. Homeie and mine introduced me to this a little bit, he told me, and I believe him. He told me that he lucid dreams. He can put himself in one of three different places. One of them was a garattle with fifteen women. One of them was on top of a mountain in Tibet.

I forgot what you said, Anne nine. He's very he's a very spiritual person and he like meditates in his dream like his and he can pick these three places as well. And there's there's tricks that you can do when when you're throughout the day to um to help you said. Dream Lucid dreaming is this being aware that you are and you are dreaming. And one of the things is look at a clock and just stare at it for a few extra seconds, a digital clock, because

supposedly this hasn't happened. I've read about this a few different times. When you see a clock in a dream, it's never the right time. It's like seventy three forty two o'clock in a dream. And the other thing is just doing reality checks is what I what I call them. Just look at your hand and and this is what this is what I do a lot. Just look at your hand and count your five fingers, and if you do the more you do that, the more the bigger a chance you're creating to look at your hand in

a dream, because it's gonna become a habit. But when you look at your hand in a dream, there's never five fingers, and sometimes it's a fucking flipper, and and sometimes there's some weird ship going on, and you'll know you're dreaming. Dreams are some crazy stuff when you start researching getting into them. Dreams we go to another dimension, we go to another reality. We we we go to this place that we we can't fathom put words to

our describe. Our brain interprets it as these visual images when we wake up, and they never make sense because we don't understand this place that we go to. But when you start I haven't yet been in a dream and said I'm dreaming, but I have been able to start controlling them. I started predicting what happens in my dreams, which is a form of that which is really cool. I had one dream where I was I was driving with my old step my stepbrother I haven't seen is

so long. We were looking at houses and for some reason we decided to drive the car off a cliff, and I predicted exactly how the car would flip off the cliff, like it go two times and land upside down in your dream, Yeah, in my dream, I remember doing this. I'm getting to the really cool thing though in a second. The other one was we drove off a bridge into water, and I predicted it would go off and roll. It was exactly how how I did it. But the dopest dream I've ever had, and I've ever

heard anybody ever having. I used to. I have dreams of me flying all the time, but I usually have to get a running start and then glide and go and really concentrate hard or jump office up and then glide and go flying so much fun. And sometimes I can jump, hike and levitate stuff. But in this one dream, I remember standing there and I understood this energy we have yet to discover. It was like magnetic or is like electricity, but it was something we haven't discovered yet,

and I understood it. It It wasn't I just didn't just understood it. I made it work, and then I was able to absorb it, like pull it from the sky and absorb it and then take off. And that's cool. Do your reality checks, man, if you can control your dreams and do crazy stuff like that. And when I'm dreaming all that, I hate it when this happened. Like usually when I'm having a bad dream, I'm like in the dream, like, relax, you're dreaming. I haven't done that.

You can can, No, you can make That's why I mentioned it because I heard you say that you didn't. You've never done that. I do that, like I'll have a dream that I'm like killing my boyfriend or I've never been there saying telling myself to dream. That's so I've had some really nasty dreams. I've had dreams where I'm getting raped or something crazy because my head is handy. So but I'm selling in these dreams. I'm like, wake up, like, what's wrong. I'm like always always tell you I'm in control.

This is my dream. I'm creating this reality. Tell you that's what I do. That's exactly what I saw myself, like, this is your life. Wake up you in bed, that's the if you want to, you want to, you want to play with me? I bet you if you people get up, I bet you if you pee right now, you're gonna be in the bed. That's like I saw myself dreaming. I swear I in the bed dream before and I really stopped. I think I've been in a dream, and I thought, if I pee now, I'm pissing my bed.

Yeah yeah, looking to yourself in dream in the bed and I had to pee in the bed dream where I got up and went in. And I've had to had a bed dream where I just held it like I knew I was and I'm like, you don't. I'm too tired to get up right now, and I never want to get definitely, definitely. But when I'm having a bad dream, like to test yourself, like, oh you think this is real? And I saw myself when I'm having

a bad dream, Oh you think this is really? You think this is real yourself, it's gonna be in your bad go ahead, trying you punish yourself where I scold myself, don't give you something. But I think it's amazing and brilliant than you, you know. But I wake up and I'm like, wow, I was really just like really spas

out in my dream right now. The only dream I used to have was that my teeth were falling out, like I would I have that line I used to have that I have that dream, and I would have the dreams that I was falling and then I would wake up when I hit the ground. Me too. I have a bit about dreaming to have a comedy about it. I had this one dream where I I woke up.

I got up, shut off the alarm, went went to my bathroom, started up the shower, uh pete, and went back in showered, scre myself, washed my hair, got out, dried off, put my clothes on, put the order it on, brush my teeth, did everything I do in the morning, went and made a protein shake, played with my dogs a little bit, walked out the door, and fucking woke up again, for real, for real, like I had to

do it all over again. I'm like what. Then my subconscious with me on another level, imagined that I got up and got ready for work and I'm still in bed. You've done that? Oh my god, Yeah, I would do that. Yeah, that's exactly what I do. Another funked up one I had, I have. I had dreams. I actually had a dream where I could breathe underwater, but I had to fight fucking sharks. And not only did I have to fight sharks. For some reason, there's tigers that could breathe underwater that

I had to fight as well. I'm not even kidding. You didn't make this ship up. Oh my god. I was watching this movie called forty seven meters Deep. Oh my God, with the sharks. It was so crazy. We never were all gonna have I now let me. Now we have an asked you question. Somebody sent in this question, so we want to get to your advice. Okay, she said. When we first started dating, I found porn on his phone and I was upset about it, and we argued over it, and he said he didn't know how I

felt about it. And he said he knew how I felt about it, and he wouldn't watch it anymore. A couple of months after I found it again, we argued again, but then after trying to think about it, I told myself him watching porn is better than him cheating, and I told him it was okay with it once in a while, but recently I found it again. And she said, we lived together, we have sex al must every day. I do favors for him and give whatever he wants, and it really does hurt my feelings that he still

feels the need to watch porn. When I give him whatever he wants sexually, it makes me feel like I'm not enough, and I think it's disrespectful. What do you think time to move on? Except the fact that he's gonna watch porn? How many more times you gotta catch him? He's watching porn? Right, he's pleasing you if it's not a problem you know with you guys, n Wait, what kind of porn is this? Though? Yes, I don't want to. Yeah, I don't wants Now that's something that you gotta be king.

I don't think that. I don't think that's man watched porn. I would actually be happy, and I would want us to watch it together. Right, I've never watched and yeah, and and talked to him about that as well. I'm bringing up that and tell him that if you don't mind watching it with him, you know, say that. But if if it's you know, his thing that he doesn't want to do with you, you respect that as well.

This this appreciate him being open and honest, and you guys talk about if it bothers you let him know, you know, if it doesn't, let him know that too, Offer to watch it with him. If he says no, you know, respect that too, Just to be open and honest. That's that's the key to healthy going through. Why are you in his phone? Like one time I was on somebody's laptop, Like I was using somebody laptop. You don't trust someone. You don't trust somebody. If you trust them,

leave him alone. This guy had you know how you put the fucking folder up or whatever and make a longst every ship. That's why I said the dog shit. He had a woman sucking a horse. He can't compete with that. But I'm just confused that why the fund is this in a folder? Like it was like a screen what you call it, like one of the icons on the desktop? Yes, like like you can't see, Like who's this bitch? Maybe he knows her? I don't know. Maybe have you ever watched that? Have you ever watched

I watched a man horse? I didn't watch it. Hands Donkey Show of Mexico. I've seen he died, this guy. I'm sure he did if I would die too. I've seen I've seen it a lot, spleen or some ship, and I've seen it a few times. If that's not fucking kerma, I don't know what it is. Does hey don't horse right. The horse. Horse you know have like dogs, yea, how they jump up on top of you? The horse? The horse squirted? What Dick was like? This is disgusting.

I don't, isn't. Let's ask Stephanie. I've seen it a lot. You watch like the whole thing. Not yeah, watched the whole thing. That bality. It's not even to make you it's not even to make you horny. I think I've watched it to see what happened. It was like there. It should not make you horny. It does not, it doesn't. I've seen it. I was curious. Have you ever been in love? I got I can't talk about this anymore. Have you ever been in love? Horse? Once stallion? Um,

I interpret love differently now I I love everyone. Um, I think for real, I think being in love. But it's it's a it's a choice, I think, uh most of the time. It's not approach and intelligent matter. It's an infatuation. It's something that we think we need, but but we don't. I used to. I used to go from girl to girl, the girl. It's been eight years since I've had someone I called a girlfriend. But before that, there's a girl, you know in the picture just about

every week or a couple. I probably I might have had a two week break on some of them for like years and years and years. So I mean, I did that for a long time, and I thought, that's that's how that's how our our weak society is built, saying that there's something wrong with you if you're not with somebody else, and if you're alone, you know you

have problems, and we have to have that. So we have to be married and have fucking kids by the time we're twenty two or we're old and it's too late and you're gonna miss your opportunity and and it's all bullshit. We need to we need need to do a lot more self discovery before we we worry about that. And you gotta love yourself before you you love anybody else. It's impossible to love anybody if you don't love yourself. But don't go like eleven. Our sleeps get a little

lonely by like ten. I pull off twelve to fourteen, He'll no, I get amazing sleep. I get amazing sleep. I think I think people sleep in separate beds. Anyways, what I told you earlier, nobody nobody said anything about it. But man, if someone we move around, we snore, we make fucking noises, we get up to go to the bathroom. You're being disturbed the whole night. You're not getting You're not getting. I have to, you know. I feel like when I'm in love, I want to sleep like on.

We don't snore, and I do know. I snow. I wake myself up sometimes yeah anybody, not all the time, but sometimes not soft snore I heard, But I want to see my baby. I like to sleep all up on. We sleep on each other like all of rights. So you really answer the question like not that you love everybody, but do you feel like you've been in love? When I was younger, every girl, I love you. This is it. I was in love, in love, I got married. I got married briefly as as well. But yeah, she was

there was when I was in the Air Force. But I went from girl, the girl, the girl, the girl, the girl, and I was in love with all of them. What I interpreted what love was and being in love and committing you're it forever, you and me. I did that every fucking weekend. I thought that's I wanted it all to work. I wanted every single one of those to work, and I was I wanted that commitment, and you know, I don't want to be lonely. You think it was you. It was a society putting it in

his head. Do you think that the reason they didn't work out? You think it was you because I was way too fucking young and the experience and I didn't I didn't go through any self discovery at that point. Like I said, you gotta love yourself before you can love story. You had a lot of self discovery. We had a hundre of kicks in your ass. I am being in love with somebody and having, you know, that romantic fling. I'm open to that. I've had a couple.

I've had a couple of nice flings in the last eight years with with a girl I had a great time with for a weekend, and and I've stayed friends with just pretty much everybody. I haven't ended a relationship badly in the last eight years. But now I haven't found that that one that I want to run off with and commit to and plan on being with for a long time. I haven't found that in a long time. Yeah, why not? You know what I think we all do.

I think I think you're lying to well, not you know, lying to yourself, but you're you're confused if if you think that you're not open to that possibility of finding this person. And I hate it when people try to shut that off from their life. I don't like that you were it's it's unlikely you're gonna find this fucking amazing person that you're gonna love and be with every day and enjoy every second with forever. It's it's it's it's clause herble though. It's it's doable, and we should

stay stay open to that for sure. And I hope everybody finds. The one episode of Tigla, one woman says she was hiring an a male escort because she had gone through a really bad breakup and she was like, I don't ever want to expose myself to her again. Fair enough, man, and and be in love again, fair enough and uh, you know they're they're in control and they're they're not gonna you know, find that heartbreak and everything. Straight up. You pay this, you get me for this long,

and I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna be on fucking point. You're gonna get my attention. We're gonna have a good time. There's there's nothing wrong with that, you know. I think this this Hollywood and storybook love stuff is infatuation a lot of the times, and and it can be unhealthy. I don't think. I think it's really approached an intelligent manner, and I think when my service provides, it's a very intent, intelligent way of approaching and having a relationship. Do you

ever come too quick? If I go a little a while and I have I have really good control now, and a lot of that's mental. But if if I go a while without coming, I I can come quick. I can make myself come very quickly if if I wanted to, I have a lot of control. Now, what makes you come quick? Like? Because a lot of women want to know this, right, What would make you like? What? What it takes you over the edge? Is it more mental? Isn't more like a woman talking? Or is it more physical?

She's a fucking woman talking now, I'm just kidding, but I mean like talking. No, that's that the build up, the the the whole build up, the whole fling, the intent, the intencipation, you know, the talking is is a part of it and connecting and having this special moment and and and all of that is involved in that because it builds and builds and builds and builds and builds, and then when you do it at the right moment. So so timing is a big part of that as well.

So it's everything that you know, every everything that leads up to that moment. You know, it's not something crazy that she's gonna do, or a costume that she's gonna wear or something. It's it's the appropriate build up to the appropriate time. So what's the most times you came in one session? I used to try to come many times and fast and hard. It's it's a little different.

It's a little different now when when when I sleep with somebody, I I I write it out a little longer and we will will even you know, take a break before I come. And so it's it's a lot. It's a lot different now. But when I when I was younger, a lot I used I used to shoot a lot too. I I donate a sperm for about a year when I was living in l A as well. So you got some kids out there somewhere, Yeah, I do.

And actually I was gonna look back into that because I told him I didn't want them to contact me, but I think I changed my mind. Can you change your mind? You go, you can, and then it's up to them when they turn eighteen, there they may contact you. Wow, that's crazy. I think I'd be open. That'd be that'd be cool. When I was younger, I'm like, no, it could be millions. I was in the top one percent there. There could be a lot of me running around hawks.

Have any of your clients ever started to stock you? No? No, no stocking. I mean you feel like it was like getting crazy, like cling. There's something that I guess maybe spend a little too much time. I may approach the relationship and become a little too infatuated with with what

I do. But no, no stocking. Most a few of my clients live in Vegas, and I mean, I'm I'm barred up in a gated community too, soby ever try to see you and I have to pay after, like, oh, let's just go out, like not as a client situation, but yeah, yeah, some of them that they don't feel like they're totally comfortable with that, or maybe that for some reason that they shouldn't be paying for the service, even though you know it's it's upfront and clear, and

I know some of them have gotten me in hopes that, you know, maybe something will develop and they don't have to pay anymore. But for the most part, you know, every everybody's happy with the arrangement and situations. They know exactly what they're getting and what to expect, and there's no heartbreak that I don't. I never let anybody down. You you book me. I'm there from that time to

that time, and I'm on point. When a bunch of girls came, like what if it was, you know, four girls and the like, we want to run a train on you. I want to let one girl first starters in the train if it's a bunch of women, and women if they if they're running a train on me, that means like they have like dildos or something that's that's um. That depends on the situation, depends on my mood,

you know, that's something I usually don't walk into. UM. Usually when girls get me, sometimes sometimes they'll have me meet their girlfriends and shipped too and say hi, They've sometimes watched the show too, and you know, we talk and have a drink. But usually when girls get me, they it's it's a, it's a it's a special thing. They want to keep it to them themselves for the

most part. But I mean I would be open to it, depend on, you know, the girls and the energy, and you know, if everything was cool and it was good energy and we all got along and clicked, you know, I would be into that discount's birthday, my time. So what about men? Do men try to reach out to you or try to see if the take a book. I'm a little bit that the agency is very clear that it's it's straight for straight women. But if I've had some very big propositions, have you ever been like

ships the money? Maybe I've thought about a couple of them. But even though I like, I don't care, and I could live with myself after I'm like, I've gone this long, you know, and and I'm doing all right. You know, I could retire right now if I wanted to, you know, like back back, if I had this mentality back then, I don't know. And well, usually the proposition is for them to suck just suck me off and pay me

ten grands bertie grand or whatever it is. And and that happened me back then, and I always said no to that. But even talked to my straight friends, my like, my broke straight friends are like, I would do that ship. I'm like why, Like all of them said that that's a girl. I'm like, no, there's there's a little more involved in that, you know, and that might be like that you're going to think about every day for a while, right.

And that's the problem too, because what if it's one of the good I liked it, any type of sexually find her like that too. You know, I don't ever just get my dick sucked by some random girl. I still need to have some like that's that's sensual and that's you know, I need some type of you know, connection, you know, even to do that. What if that's what she wanted that What if she was like, I just want to second, don't speak to me, just put you,

don't ask me anything. That probably go down and probably go down, you know, unless she was drunk or on drugs or unstable or you know, just had this horrible energy. You know. Now, what if a guy said a hundred thousand dollars, I just want to suck your dick a million, don't play two million? Okay, two million? Anybody out there

got two million? Dollars. But I couldn't. I couldn't even do that though, Like I would never put I've never sold anything for sex, and I couldn't do that anyways, if if somebody, I would never say no to that, because it could be at this point in my career, I have too much to to risk if I was broke. If I was broke, maybe, but like I got too much to risk anyways, you know, it could be too much a sting or something that it could be a sting or you know, or something like that in anyways,

you know, so it's it's not gonna happen. Sorry, guys listening. Are we getting another season? It's looking that way. It's been a couple of years since we shot six, but six was our biggest season and most popular, and it blew away the other seasons. And they love the show. They make a lot of money off it. They rerun the ship out of it. We have six of them in the bank, and that it's Aaron in Russia. It's it's Aaron all over the world right now. Too well,

I don't see an that ship. But but it is cool. It is cool, you know, getting feedback and having you know, fans and ship in Russian all it's like, it's in like every country. I've got feedback from from everybody. I got feedback recently from this Asian student who's studying English, and he said he watches the show because I speak so quickly and it helps him with his English. Believe that. Yeah, I like your pretty little mouth. Two hunter pound man in Illinois. How much did your rate go up after

you did the show? It went up, It went up. Garen wants to put it up even more. I'm happy where it's at right now more because I don't fulfill all my requests and it's a supplied demand thing. But I'm happy where it's where where it's at. That's kind of a cool living to make for yourself as a man, and it really is providing a service when you watch it.

Can you see you know the things that some of these women go through and the reason why they hire and the first time this book and everything to you know, I want to bring as much to the table as possible. Not everybody you know comes to me to to get confidence and help with depression and ship like that. But you know, even somebody who is in outstanding health and

is happy most of the time. You know, I still want to I still want when when I want this booking to be to have some fucking substance and the night that they're gonna remember, I want to tell them Ship that they can apply that they haven't heard before, that they can apply to their life. That's what every kick is in here. It's it's an intelligent motivation that kicks you in the ass and Ship that you you need to hear, not what you want to hear. And

I always want to leave this, this and this. I want to have this earth shattering, tilting, life changing this this night to just be everything I can bring to the table. And I think the more information I absorbed, the better I'm able to do that and communicate this advice and and then be entertaining and witty and everything else on top of that and throw down. Well, we appreciate you for been through back again. Nick Hawk is here with us, but make sure y'all check out Jiglo

and looking for season seven. Yeah, hopefully we'll be shooting here this next Brain And I'm sure that some stuff you do on your own, because he also DJs, he rats, he does. Do you do everything? Yeah, I'm performing, You're talented men of many trades do a lot of stuff. I used to be a jack hall trades. I like to think I'm putting them all together now they all they all help each other out. The music is big. I just did a cover too. I just did a

cover to the Wrecking Ball. That's that's releasing on the same day as my book, November one. Well, thanks again, Nick Hawk for coming through his lift service.

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