Lip Service. What up? It is lift Service, I mean Delay. I'm Stephanie Santiago, I'm g G McGuire and it's saving Hey girl, listen, we thought this is only appropriate now Every week we come up here to the engine room audio to do lip Service, and every week we sit down and chit chat with Avian and we have some great girl talk. So she's here with us today on lip Service and we're gonna stet with the tip of
the day, Avian. What are you doing here? Just so people know, well, Um, I do a lot, man, you know, just managing the spot, helping Scotty, dealing with bookings, you know, making sure that engineers are on point with the sessions, just every kind of studio. Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot, but it's it's great. You know, everything that we do here on the podcast lip Service is great every week is it's Yeah, you're weird because I'm sure guys come up here and try to kick it to you because
you're a cute girl, very attractive. So how do you handle that? Um? I mean, you just got to know the industry that you and you know this music industry. You're gonna do with that every day? If you're pretty chick no matter where you go. So I think I just you know, because people always say that, how do you handle it when you work? You know, you're working and guys are flirting with you, coming on to you.
How do you handle that if you especially if you're not interested, but you don't want to offend somebody, And yeah, I think you gotta keep it friendly. And I think, you know, depending on how you come off to the person, they would know immediately if you're rocking with them or not. You know what I mean. It's one thing to flirt friendly, but you know, I think if you're trying to take it to the next level is pretty obvious. So you know, I'm always friendly with the guys. Is again, this industry
is just mail driven. So I deal with men every day. All the guys that work here is a bunch of them. But you know, it's an adventure. It's fun. I learned from them. I learned people always asking that, they're like, how do you deal with guys? It's just something you gotta get used to, you know, something you gotta deal with if you're going to be in this industry. Again, it's a male driven industry, so you gotta get used
to it. The worst for me is like even if you're really nice and they still can't take the curve right, Yeah, respect because you know why, because sometimes persistence of what comes resistant. I'm sure we've all give it into a persistent guy. Yes I have. Yeah it works. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. It works. It's like getting a job. You know, I'm gonna keep on checking in and seeing if it works out. And if one day you can
get caught slipping. You know, if one day you're drunk, right or you know, upset about something or board or lonely, maybe this guy to be hearing me all the time, fucking you don't want it does happen, though it happened to all of us. I'm sure, right that persistent guy. But it's just that if you're not interested at all, and that is their rules against, like dating somebody that comes up here is bad. Like do they tell you not to um or is it just like at your
own discretion? I mean I've never been told not to, you know, I think we're all adults. But it's just keeping it at a level where it's still respectful when it's not, you know, it's not messing with anyone, it's not messing with the business. Do you think it's never spectable? Like, what do y'all think if a girl is working someplace? Like say, we came in here and a woman was working here, but you know a few people done came
in and it doesn't matter for me. I think. Um, I feel like once you once you have sex with somebody and you see them every day, it makes things awkward. But would you look at somebody differently, like if you work you know, if we came up in here and Avian not at all, because I don't know Aban don't do nothing like that. But let's just say, like you know, several guys it was like, yeah, you know what I mean. Would you be like damn, would you like she's letting
a professional? Yeah? Yeah, because even if you are going to do something different place, then you need to not do it excessively to where the people more people going up here. She would be like, oh, look that's the thought that works up here. Right, Look, guys, if you're interested, and then I'll be super uncomfortable for me, you know, right, like Danny's talking about me. Yeah, I mean you know
you you know who you fucked. So it's like you, you yourself would be uncomfortable in that situation, not even them talking about you. You yourself would be like, oh ship. I always say that if guys have respect for you, they're not gonna talk about you, right Like, if they respect you, they're not gonna be like, oh yeah, you know, I hate that because they don't even look at you like that. They respect you to me, so they didn't want to talk no ship. And I was having that
conversation the other day, Um one of my friends. He was like, you know, I could be in a room with four chicks that I fucked and I won't say anything, right you know. It's well, he sounds a little griny, I mean, but in a sense, in a sense, you're not gonna be like, oh yeah, I sucked her, and her and her. It's like, it's it's your business. If you guys can keep it on the low and and you don't have to spread that out to everybody, then
just keep it to yourself. If you guys are respected, respectful to each other, then you know, now, let's say somebody came up in here and one of us, you know, step with him. Would you tell other people? Would you keep that between you and him, like, let's just say we have somebody in here, and we're like, oh, you know, just tell y'all know, like or is that private information?
I would probably tell you right yeah, men during the show, I would like quiet, y'all like girl, Yeah, I wouldn't mention it on the show either, but of course I would tell y'all if he was whack, you know, service. I'll tell y'all if it was whack. If it was good size lip service, you know those off the record.
Yeahs you gotta me and my me and my best fo. Yeah, we have a code when it comes to guys dick size, like with all people knowing, well, now everybody's gonna know, but when um like if it was if it was an average size, will be like, man, he was like at six, you know the battery when your battery, but it could still last for a few years, and that somebody would have a little bit. Man, he was fifty percent power mode. You want to be like, man, he's
about to die. He's on a little power mode. That if it's really big, we'll say, oh he had the MOFI. That's hilarious right now, you don't Normally we started for the tip of the day to today's tipp is, how do you tell somebody if they got you a present that you don't really like it? Or should you tell them that's tough. It depends on the situation, depends on
the president. It depends on how bad the president is. Like, if it's something that they would if it's like clothing or something that they would expect you to wear or expect to see you in, or you know, something like that, then I probably tell them, like, you know, even though it's so nice, it's just not my style. It's just
not for me. This is funny because, um, one of my best friends, a guy gave her a charm for her bracelet and it's, um, the title of the charm, it's my first our first dance, right, it's two as a boy and a girl, you know, one of those bless So it's a boy and a girl at his first dance. And she's like when she opened, like, she's like, but we've never danced before. How long have they been dating? Like a year or something? And then um, well they're
like on and off because she has another boyfriend. But that's a whole different right, Yeah, that's a whole different dancing itself. Yeah, that's a whole different dance. But she's like, we didn't dance on our first day. Like if if it doesn't make sense, it doesn't make sense though type of connection. Maybe, Yeah, that's what I told her. I was like, maybe you should like And that's a tough situation because the way she the way she kind of
took the gift is like but he now you know what. Okay, SO had ex boyfriend and he used to gna be the worst presence ever. And we were together for a long time, like five years, and his presence used to be terrible. I used to be like he would be so excited to give him He wouldn't even be excited. He just wasn't a thoughtful person and he would give me the worst presence and I never would say anything,
but it would make me mad. So when we did break up, Now, he did cheat on me, and you know, I found out and then I was like, okay, and I was thinking to myself, he got me whack presents anyway, and that's like, I think you could put up with a lot more when somebody treats me really good and it's like thoughtful and everything. But because you know, he got me whack presents and he didn't treat me like
like he was cheating. It take you a little homemade purse, but you know, lie, he was like, you know this woman in my job makes persons. He really brought me a purse. But then in those situations when people buy you continuously by your gifts that you don't like, is it that they're not paying attention to what you do like or they're just picking up whatever. Maybe it's their personal taste it's but his taste was good. He put himself all kind of nice stuff. Maybe you know what
I think. I think he never had like a for real like the girlfriend he had before me was like basic, not even but he never had like no real girlfriend that he really did stuff for. So it probably was his most serious relationships. It was like a learning experience. I was like candy Pig. I'm sure he was buying amateur gifts, right, he was just didn't an amateur gifting. Like he went on vacation and he came back with like some type of shell necklace from he probably bought
at the airport. Oh my god, I can't even imagine you're making that cold. So what are your girlfriend's like girl, this guy, and I was like, I don't want to be And it's not even that I'm materialistic or I'm an asshole. I just felt like this is all I can't even were a little more in life. And then one time he got me a juicy couture perfume set. It smelled disgusting. Yeah, that's that's that's like teenager. Where do you get it from? Like century twenty one or something.
Where did he get it from? I think he ended up Bloomingdals or something, but it was listen and it was like teenage perfect, probably the same place you got the charm. But I do feel like at the time I should have said something to him, because I felt like it was wrong for me not to say anything. But it was making me matter and matter, and I wasn't saying because I felt like it would be ungrateful to be like, I don't really like these, so I wanted to be appreciative of it. But I just like
it was building. It was like a build up, you know, sometimes you're like, Okay, I don't want to be an asshole, so I'm not gonna say but it built up and I probably would have had this time. I was like this whack ass present, Like it just didn't. I did, but but it was like way later after you given like eight terrible presents, see after president with three? I like, listen, bro,
let's just yeah. Everybody was talking about black Shina and Rap Kardashian getting engaged and the ring that he bought her, right, seven carrots seven carrots. So somebody was asking me, you know, how much do you think somebody should spend on a ring? Like if you was gonna get engaged, how doesn't like, what do you expect somebody to spend? Um? I it depends on the situation, like if um if it depends on what he does for a living, what you do
for a living? What's going on? Because in general they say three months salary, Okay, you supposed to spend on a ring, on a ring? My friends just got engaged in her ring was like nice, Yeah, it was nice. That's number. I agree with stuff. I think it's just really you know your situation. But if somebody asked you, like how much you think would you expect somebody to spend on the ring for you? What would you say for me? For my soul? Yes? What would you say?
Three million? Dollars. I mean cute, you know, if if you want to you know, I mean, I mean, you know, we could go up to a million, but millions aller ring where it's so it's so big and happy, I can't even lift my hand. Would you get it to praise? Yes, I would get it a pise. Is that bad? Does that mean? I don't know. Now. I had a discussion with one of my hands and we had a whole debate about this. Well, it depends. It depends like insurance purposes. Yes,
what if he says it's in short already? M hmm. Interesting, Yeah, I don't know. I'm saying under rail. Would you get it appraised? Because my friend said she would, I said I would really wouldn't immediately, Yeah, not right away your prayers, Yeah, but I would be I mean if if if for somehow I didn't find out some way down the line and I really really felt like I needed to know or I wanted to know, then I would just would you ask him I get it a praise? I would
probably just get it a praise. I think it's kind of rude to be like, how much you pay for this? You know, when you could just go read to go get it a praise. We're not if you don't know. Okay, now what if you what if you're going you find out it's not real? Right, because then do you go and talk Look, I got this a praise that's acts like, well, hey about this ring? And then what if he lies? Then that's when you slide that. People were going like, so now you're both designed. You can't get mad at
me for getting into praise. If this ship is fake, who's who's worse? And at the end of the day, Yeah, what would you do if you got the ring a praise and it was fake? Mm hmm. I don't think I'll talk to the motherfucker for a wow, well this glass? But you would telling yeah, yeah, sure, definitely you would
tell him what if I what it at him? What I would probably tell him after he's in the hospital because I almost killed him because he got cut, And I would tell him there like I caught you because you gave me a fake as relationships over after that, I mean it's not yeah, it's a line like for that, I mean it's for me. It depends on the situation, like if um, if you know it's a it's a hard working you know regular guy, you know who's who's doing the forty hours a week. And I went and
got there. He got me a beautiful ring, and I went and found out it was fake. I probably wouldn't. I probably wouldn't be sold down on him for it. You know, I probably wouldn't kill him for it. But if I'm dating an athlete or a rapper or something like that, and then give me a bakery. But if he's like babe, I wouldn't fake jul Now they be moving. We don't want nobody hanging on what you're trying to
take your ship. Yeah no, but you know that's because you have You should have brought me a real ring, and they had a dummy ring that I wear out and the real ring safe. At least we know we got a real bring. I think it all depends on
the situation and a lot of things like stuff. And he said, if it's a hard working dude and he doesn't have a lot of money, but he feels like you really want to ring and he wants to propose to you, and he has to do whatever it takes to make you happy, wouldn't if it was fake, you know, that would be a problem. But maybe he felt pressured that he wanted to get you a ring and he couldn't. Maybe it was like one day I'm gonna get a
real one and replace the fake one. But it's still a conversation, like, God, now I'm playing, isn't ring exactly? I was gonna say, maybe just don't pay me ring right, just don't get don't get it right now you really feel like that? Can a guy propose to you with no ring? No, that's not a proposal. There is no ring involved. But I mean you can go google, go get married it out having a wetting So what difference?
Don't make its only paper at the end of the that. No, I mean I think your man was like, yeah, let's just get married, but no ring. He's just ready to go to the court. You don't think he proposed to you. That's not a proposal that jump in the room. No, no, it's getting hitched. No no, no, no, no, no no. Because if you're getting marriage, when you ask the questions, get down nothing to do. What if he says let's get tattoos, it's let's get tattoos? Is a proposal to
get at ring tattoo? Like a ring tattoo Yeah, like, let's get married and done tattoo it. Yeah, yeah, it's still a proposal. If he gets down, She's like, I'm not having it, Michael, my man had a ring. Having
If it's important to you, that's fine. I mean, I don't really know if a ring is all that important as the commitment itself, right, because you can have the craziest you can have a goddamn ice skating rink on your finger and there like ship low so with me, and at the end of it, what matters is the
real commitment and not the materialistic part of it. But but but I would prefer to have, right, That's what I'm like, what if I had If you're in a serious relationship and you've been with him for a long time and you're ready for that commitment, you would expect and hope that that moment will be special when he because you want to believe you when we say you engaged ring right, when you're like, I'm engaged, desid in the ring, It's like if you're you know, you're not engaged,
not yet? Oh then um who got married without a ring? I think it was Tammy and Walker. Yeah, And she's like, I don't need know ring. I got a big ass house. I got a big as I'm not mad us saying let's not spend money on the ring because we're gonna spend money on the house instead. Yeah, I'm never mad at being practical, right, So I'm not. I mean, it's like, right, yeah,
but you want the ring. I mean, but if you're doing that, like if you're invested in the home for a future family and you know you're gonna be together for a while, then the rink of weight, you know, it all depends on a person. Oh my god, how could I know? How could I forget this? The first time I was to gage, the first time I got to gauge, the guy gave me a cubic yes, God bless that man, and I went. I took it too. I took it to the pawn shop because I knew
the guy in the pawn shop. I was only like seventeen, eighteen years old. I took I took it to the pawn shop, and the guy was like, no, this isn't a diamond. So I was like all right. I was like okay. So I went to him and I told him. I was like, hey, you know, I took it. Yeah, like, um, was this supposed to be a diamond? Like did you know? And he was like no, it's a diamond, was like yeah, yeah, it was awful. He was an awful He was an
awful boyfriend. Was just awful. Yeah. Right, but you said you was seventeen at that time, Oh he was thirty one. Well he's a ready discussed exactly because I was trying to say if it was a situation where he where he was like he was, but he had just came out of jail. He was in jail for seven years. Okay, yeah, here we go from jail. Yeah, probably got it from a cracking jack box man. We had was fake racks and jail commissary money. You know what. Let me find
out he came home and got you that commissary brain. Yo, marry me? Now, would you propose to a guy? Yes, of course I would. I would ask a guy to marry me. I would ask a guy to marry me. It just depends on the situation, Like I wouldn't propose to just any guy that I'm in love with. How would you propose to a guide stuff? How would I propose to marry this so a guy? It depends, like I said, like I would ask my son's father to
marry me. You know what I mean. We've been together for a long time, Like I know he probably wanted that at a point, and you know I didn't want it at that time. And then you know, if we were to get back together, you know, a big history, there would have to be a big, long history. Like I wouldn't propose to somebody. No, I wouldn't. But if I were to propose to anyone, it would be him, and it would not And I'm not saying that I want to marry him. No, no, no, that is a
half years that was. No, he don't. They're broken up. He doesn't have a girlfriend anymore. Yeah, my son's father is single, right now. Did he hit you up to tell you that? No, he didn't. But I speaks to him, you know, we have a kid together, so he speaks to each other all the time. And he broke up with his girlfriend, and unfortunately, I feel bad. I was honestly hoping that they would have a baby. Us us
such a lie. You do not like his girl? No, I don't mind her, She's all right, But I still want to know how how would you propose to a guy like I'll be like, you know, what's up them. I wouldn't get down like remember Christie and Jim Jones. Remember, I wouldn't do it like that. I wouldn't get down on my moneys and propose like making events of it. It would just be like, you know, I was thinking, today's Wednesday, you want to get married? Today's somebody to
post you like that? Though it depends, It depends on the situation because for me, for me, marriage it's not about the ring, it's not about the money. It's about the soul connection. You know what I mean. If you love somebody and you feel that sole connection, I feel you should get married. Now. I don't think everybody thinks like that. I don't think everybody should think like the way I do. You know, it's my personal opinion. But you know, I've been a couple of guys have proposed
to me. I've had I've been engaged twice and I've said no once. You know what I mean. That's three times. And you know, if I mean it is what it is, i'd be feeling like guys think. I think guys feel like women ultimately want to get married, so that like they'll say that let's just get married to make it better. And that's not that's not when somebody up like that's gonna That has happened to me, you know, So for me, for me personally, I'm not in a rush to get married.
I'm not I'm not thirsty for it. You know, it's not even something that I dreamt about when I was a kid. You know when I when I was a kid, I dreampt about living in a house on the hill. I didn't think about a dog or a white fence. I didn't think about husband. I didn't think about any of that. I just thought, Hey, I want to live in a house on a hill, and I want to bring all my good friends that I hang out with in the neighborhood. Proposing you've been with your man, I'm proposing,
but no, I can't. What do you think he would saying? He would just look at me like I was crazy, probably like I don't know what he would say. He would I don't know you would because you think he would look at you crazy. I'm not proposing. I'm just not gonna do that. I'm just not going to propose. I just I feel like that's the man's job. And if you're gonna get married, then that's what he should do.
If that's what he wants, then he should propose. What would he say though, I mean what he might be like, yeah, and they you should go home tonight. No, I'm skinning, but I love to how that is for for a guy if a woman proposes to him, does he feel like? Is he like, oh, yes, yeah? Why do you think if I'm ready, I'm ask right, but you would never ask, I'm not. Would you would marry me? No, that's his job, would you, Angela? I don't know. I don't think so
because I'm not gonna lie. Like. Marriage is a scary thing to me anyway, and I'm fine with being with somebody forever and never getting married rejection. We're going on seven years. But I would never ask somebody to marry me if I didn't think they would say, yes, I'm not asking, but I'm fine with us being I'm fine. Nothing against a woman that they be honest, Nothing against a woman that does ask a man to marry that's her, you know, prerogative. But I just now, we talked about
this earlier. Once you start stop using times with somebody, do you think you could start again? No? Yeah, no like being in a situation. Let's say, y'all break up, he was cheating, and now you'll get back together. We're just gonna have to go and take take that trip to the doctor together and be just gonna have to just trust each other that we were not gonna happen again. Whole shirt because I'm not. We're not using condom. Have you ever like the first time you didn't use it?
Kind of never went back to using them after that? List somebody, Yeah, we use condoms the first time and that was it, and then after that never get That's a tough thing to do to be like, hey, I need you to use a condom now. I mean, because you see, guys are like getting vasectomies, getting multiple women pregnant. Guys are gross. Ye, Women, we don't like condoms just as minute, just as much as men don't like kindom either.
By the way, Yeah, but I think as a woman, look these guys out here with fun anything, and like you said, they'll have multiple babies by multiple women. So are they really worried about themselves? A lot of men will be. But I think as a woman you should protect yourself. I always think it's weird too, when a guy tries to have sex with you with no condom, absolutely first, especially when it's the first time, because that means yeah, because you're not me. Think that you just
looked at me and said, okay, she don't need safe. Yeah, you do that with everybody. Yeah. Yeah, I feel that way too. I definitely feel And if you say to him, if we're getting at it for the first time and you just come straight with no condom, I'm gonna just look at you and that we're not even gonna do it, that's scary. Because men are less, it's likely to go to the doctor. You shouldn't want it if it's that easy. It's true. I think women if you don't have nothing,
they don't have nothing. Yeah, but you see women go to the g y N. Yeah, like women get checked up an you know what I mean. Yeah, I think as a woman, if you sexually active, definitely go to the g y N and make sure you're good at the end of the day, because there's nothing these things that you can have, no symptoms you don't even know you have, and then you can end up not being able to have kids. You can have a cent Yeah,
and I think for me, there's nothing. There's nothing better for me when I'm having sex with somebody to feel confident, yeah, like to knowing that I'm protective even if you haven't, like you know, if you're not using the condom with someone you're close to, but you're still not trying to, let's say, get pregnant. There's nothing and better for me to feel confident, like knowing that like I'm protected, like on birth control or like that. I go to my g y N regularly to know that I'm good, you
know what I mean. And I've had this conversation with some male friends and just you know, listening to other people talk and women, I think I'm more likely to go to the doctor than men. And it's scary because men will be I feel like they go up there something wrong, something wrong, They're getting them checkups and damn, you know, my dick is burning or it is, And that's scary. And that's scary because, like you said, a
lot of ship don't give you symptoms. So Nigga could have something for a year and then I think he's cool and who knows, right, And then when it gets worse, he's like, oh I'm burning, let me go. Yes, you gotta be safe out here. Now, do you mind if your guy goes on a guy's trip. The only thing I can think of when you say god's trip is just like bachelor party, and we all know that what happens at that to the party's guys fun at bachelorp these they get their dicks up, they fuck, it goes
down that back. What happens if your man tells you we gotta go away for for the week for my friends back to the party, then I already know you're sucking. So I'm a trid. I'm a trade likely absolutely think anytime a guy goes out with his friends, he's sucking. She said, what ivery guy? But what if he's the BA is definitely getting something. What if he's like, you just go, I'm going on like a three or four day trip with the fellas. You cool? You think he's
not doing anything that's weird. We're going to d R. Yeah, no, you're gonna get into some trouble. But what do he think is weird if we're going to No girls hang out more than guys hang out with just themselves. Right, if the guys are going on a guy trip, they gotta be even want to do something really man, girls know like what white like white water, like fly fishing, mountain climbing, like I don't know, guys, if a guy's trip, then you're going to like a ski resort, Like y'all
just gonna go. We're going to Vegas, just the guys. There's a fight that we can't get out the city hose holes and more holes. Yeah damn, So what does that mean every other city you can see this game? No, you don't tell them that you can't go. You just know that. But what if he's calling you every day and checking out and making sure you're good and you feel more comfortable, are you still like mega, you're still
doing you Tonight's guess what. You don't trust him. We can be FaceTime and right here somebody somebody sucking his dick right there, so he can't even be Like yo, I'm not saying he can't, but making the back of my mind, I'm gonna think that it's some bullshit. So you think anytime guys are together it is some bullshit. Guys are bullshit. Yeah, I mean I agree with you. I'm just trying to make sure I'm not crazy. I don't listen when whenever I feel like whenever I'm not around,
he up to some bullshit. I agree, right now, I agree, I agree with right now. I agree with g G. That sucked up way to feel in a relationship. Tell me about it. That's just man, That's how many makes
relationship and they make you feel that way relationships. Just like with the blog from this week about putting your phone down and always having your phone turned down, making sure you got your phone with you at all times when you're in the house, you're just walking around the house, you can't leave your phone sit on the table, no, because who knows what might pop up on the screen and get you caught the funk up. It's the same thing that's actually don't pop up on my screen. But
but it's different for girls and guys. I think. I think, like you said, men are always up to some bullshit, and I don't want to have a boyfriend that I don't trust. It's hard, it's hard, it is I feel good, like, yeah, you know, I don't know. I mean, it's great when you have a man that you can trust, like lord, you know, but I trust you? Yeah, that's true. I agree. You know, if he doesn't give you a reason then
don't worry about it. But if you know, when you've had had a reason to be skeptical, then you're gonna always be skeptical. Absolutely, Especially me, I've dealt with that, like you over. It takes some time. I think it depends on it, and it takes a lot of um not really proving himself. But actions speak louder than words.
So it takes for me to see that you've you know, change, so to say, in order for me to be like, all right, he really not don't know bullshit because you know, I go on girls ships all the time with my girls, like all the time of the Yeah, you know, but I think it's easy for girls like said to all go together on a trip and just girls like that have quality time with yeah, versus guys just like where to hold that. Yeah, guys can't be around and drink
and hang out without somehow involving holes. They're gonna go to the strip club, they're gonna do whatever. It's always gonna be the fars and stuff like that and watch the game and play cards and no. No, I think it all depends on the person. So there's some guys that are really, you know, really loyal and genuine and don't worry about that and they can't hang out with their friends. But there's some other dudes, the majority that are like, wait, a bitch, is that damn? That's fun?
You think it's an immaturity thing though, like you think because one of my ex boyfriends, his mom told me that guys stopped cheating when they get too old and tired to do it and it's too much effort. She was like, listen, his stepfather ain't stopped cheating toil. His ask was two day entired to be running because this is hard to keep up. Once you know these guys, they'll have three or four or five six chicks calling them, texting them. It's hard to keep up. This is so sad, man,
I feel terrible about this whole situation. Now, what about dating guys who have no friends? I diated this guy and literally he had no friends, like none. That's tough. And then it's a little weird because you want to be like, hey, let me get my friends, and you know, we all. I don't have changed with your friends, but friends, that's tough. I was in a relationship like that when I was like eighteen and I was engaged to him
early early, we were together like two years. He was a good family man, like my mom loved him, his family loved me. He's somebody that I could see my I could have seen myself in the future with um. But you know, we just went different paths and life, like I just started get him busier. He was just
trying to find himself, and then he didn't. He had friends, but he always wanted to spend time with me, and that was great, but after a while, it's like, babe, let's hang out with your friends, let's hang out with my friends, hang out with you, let's all merged together, like you come out with my friends or you go out with your friends. And it was always like, no, I want to And I'm like, dude, that's cool, but like we need different energy, we need to be around people.
And then you know, then he just started hanging out with other people, hanging out with other dudes, going to parties all the time, and just don't know, Yeah, he got friends. Yeah, I mean he always had friends, you know, but he was more secluded to trying to focus on himself and being with me. And I was great, but I'm like, dude, we're still young. Let's have fun. Like I want to be around my friends. I want you to come hang out with my friends. I want to
be with your friends. Let's let's mingle. I don't want to sit in your room the whole time. That's you get bored. And I like to have a boyfriend. I said that play dates with him and other my friends and the boyfriends. You know what I'm saying, Like, hey need you and I want you to meet her boyfriend. Yeah, it's fun. I like guys that could be social because it's like then it turns into a routine. It's like, all right, I'm going to see you, We're hanging out.
You coming to see me. We're doing the same thing. Do you get bored? Damn? And why did you pick up your engagement? I think we were young, you know, we were really young at that point. Um, we were in a serious relationship. But I think we were young. And again we crossed path we like our paths just changed in life and we kind of just separated. Were always but he had a baby after that, and he was a good dude regardless, So I wish him the best, you know, but it was we were just so we
started becoming different and that's fine. That happens all right. Now he's the last question, Philip Service. Now, should you support your man or you you know, for guys, your women if you think that what she's doing isn't really that good, if they're not if you don't believe in them, like say they have a dream of goal, they want to do something, but you don't really think they're that good at it, should you still be supported or should
you let them know? Should you question if there's a possibility for them to get better at said thing and get professional training or you know, but well you might need some professional training. Yeah, I mean if it's a way for them too, if there's a way for you to encourage them to improve that talent or whatever that skill or whatever it is, then you should encourage them
that way. But if it ain't no way of help, like let's just say you want to be a singer, want to be a singer, can't single lick or trying to singing or been trying to sing and he just too old. You're not going to be in a boy man because you so right? You just know so, I mean, I guess it all depends, but you should all you should never be a yes person. You should never you should always give the honest truth rather it's gonna hurt someone or not, because in the long run, you're going
to hurt them by not being truthful with them. So I feel like and I live my life just being honest and real because that's how I would expect the same thing in return. But um, I just feel like, you just gotta keep it one hunting and if it's something that you're not you can't get better at. I think quit while you are ahead, and let's try to Let's just move on and try some other things. Like Yeah, you can help them as much as you can. I think, like G said, encourage them and help them find better
ways to you know, improve their skill. But is they're not making no money and you've got to support them. Yeah, see, Hell no, it depends how long. It depends how long because certain things take time, you know, to to I'm gonna be an actor. I want to do this, I want to do that. Help me pay for these classes and then when I blow up, I got you. You ain't gotta work no more. But how long it's too long? How long it's too long? Ten years? Yeah, that's long.
If it's been like four or five years and you haven't gotten at least some type of even if it's a made some type of stride, even if it's a couple of bucks. It's like, all right, let's try to reevaluate what's going on. Let's let's see what else you're good at. Let's let's try to find I just learned how to sell, and I'm selling and I'm making clee yes,
and I'm gonna get better at it. I'm not the best at it right now, but I teamed up with somebody that has more experience and we're working together and I'm getting back and he supported down. Yeah, if my ship sucked, I would want him to be like, bitch, stop. But that is something you could learn. Well, yeah, even if you stuck at it at first. I mean, but what if I was the type of person that just didn't dress well and what if you started on a booty telling that stuff that trash? Yeah, I want to
time like nobe trash, you know, I feel you. So what if it's like if it's something that they picked up as a hobby and they're doing it on the side, and like yeah, like that's I think that's a little better versus if it's something that they're not good at but they're going full hoby is a hobby. If they have a job and they can pay for their own hobby, go ahead. No, But what if they want to take this hobby and make it like their full time and they want to quit their job and they're not get either,
You're gonna be like, no, baby, how do feels get paid? Yeah? You know, and then you're gonna break up. And then then he gonna blow up and you can goddamn it. I should have say by man when he had his dreams. But it was lift service. Listen, thank you for joining to see you every single week. So I wanted to make sure that people got a chance to see who you were, you know, back with us all the time.
And she's always supportive of lip service. In the very beginning and when we started doing it, this was fun, man, And it's like every week you learn something new from the guests that we have here in the conversation, and you always chime into, like when we be downstairs talking about our lives and what is happening and what you think about this, because we talk about a lot of
stuff before we do this shop sitting downstairs. And it's even hard when you have guests to not chiming you know, all the ship that the guests is saying, it's it's just hilarious. We've had some good episode so I'm excited to be on board for sure. The one thing that I just want to say, I want to do it that you guys always talk about a second dick until you cry. Yo, man, I start watering, you start running with me, but it and it feels like gagging and everywhere.
It's just messiest ship. Your face, like, um, I don't wipe those tears. You cannot say let him run. You gotta let it. Yeah, work on it. I'm gonna work on it. When I you said no nineties heads all right? Lift stavicell be back next week.
