Shining Moment ("Props" S3 EP 20) - podcast episode cover

Shining Moment ("Props" S3 EP 20)

Mar 18, 202455 min
--:--
--:--
Download Metacast podcast app
Listen to this episode in Metacast mobile app
Don't just listen to podcasts. Learn from them with transcripts, summaries, and chapters for every episode. Skim, search, and bookmark insights. Learn more

Episode description

It's Tina's turn to shine!

Jenna and Kevin are back to talk about Tina's big episode! The one where she falls into a fountain (she did her own stunts) and wakes up as Rachel! It's Glee's version of Freaky Friday!

Jenna shares how she felt when she got the Tina-centric script, what made her nervous, how she nailed Lea's mannerisms, how the cast felt playing each other, and Kevin and Naya's special request revealed!

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript

Speaker 1

And that's what you really missed with Jenna.

Speaker 2

And Kevin and iHeartRadio podcast.

Speaker 1

Welcome to you, And that's what you're read the missed podcast. It's time, It's time, It's time.

Speaker 2

Happy Saint Patrick's Day.

Speaker 1

Happy Saint Patty's Day. Wow, it's Kevin's favorite holiday.

Speaker 2

I mean, I can't, I can't really do it like I used to. You know. Yeah, I've started having like an allergic reaction to alcohol. What do you mean, I get like the flush and like my sinuses swell up, old bitch. Yeah, I don't know what happened, but maybe I just like, no, no, I know, I stopped. It's done, I mean, and it's not even like I want to do it to all the time. We don't need to get into this. I'm one of the few who likes the taste of alcohol.

Speaker 1

I do too, but I I stopped anyway.

Speaker 2

That's why when you and I are still tasty we get together for Settlers of Catan Nights, you and I brutal.

Speaker 1

Get hull too friendly right there?

Speaker 2

Like what is wrong with them?

Speaker 1

David's partaking. It's Austin who's thinking, what the hell is wrong with all of us? Oh?

Speaker 2

Yeah, you're right, but David like controls himself. You and I just start gossiping.

Speaker 1

That's true. We are We get comfortable the very vue. We get comfortable. Okay. This is season three, episode twenty and this is props air date May fifteenth, twenty twelve. The number one song and movie are the same from last week, which is zero percent surprising. I'm sure the Avengers will be number one for a very long time. And somebody used to know has already been number one

for a very long time. And in Glee news this week, this this of May, this month of May, Fox announces Glea Season four as part of their twenty twelve twenty thirteen fall and spring programming at the New York City Upfronts where you go and you play you play Zoo Animal and you go prans around and say hello to the advertisers and charm them and get them to buy ad space on your show. I loved Upfronts because it was a chance to go to New York. It was always really fun to see my family and go travel

to New York City with all our castmates. H Jenna, Jane, Chris Naya, Darren Corey and Lea went this year where were you, Kevin? Were you in the I and you must have been doing something? I don't know what I was doing. Are you sure you weren't there that year? Yeah? I guess you're not in any of the photos. Does that makes sense?

Speaker 2

I mean I could have been in the UK. I don't know what I was doing. Who knows?

Speaker 1

We've been traveling? Okay? Well. Also on May fifteenth, Glee the Music the Graduation Album was released, and this featured ten tracks from season three and three previously unreleased songs I Was Here, Good Riddance, and Not the End. This album was made available on CD and for digital download.

Speaker 2

Yeah so this episode was directed and written by the one only Ian Brennan and Carmen Timodo's back, Whoopy whoopee. Okay, this one has some interesting songs. It has I Won't give Up by the incredible Jason Maraz.

Speaker 1

This is another one of those songs that Rachel's still crying about her audition.

Speaker 2

She's going upside.

Speaker 1

Because You Loved Me from Celnion Mean by Taylor Swift and Flash Dance What a Fee by Irene Kara. I mean, this feels like the lowest number of songs we've had an episode in a very long time. Yeah, that seems right. There's a lot happening in this episode.

Speaker 2

This episode, I texted you during it because like, the first third of this episode is so funny and.

Speaker 1

The second half is very heartfelt.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I felt I really enjoyed this episode. There's some in same things, you know, but like I thought, it was really interesting. A lot happens, and I'm excited to I have a lot to talk to you about this episode because you know, yeah, it was very targeted.

Speaker 1

Oh wow, it was. Okay, so this is a fun episode because everybody body swaps for first half of the half of the episode, so.

Speaker 2

Not long enough if I do say so.

Speaker 1

Myself agreed, it could have been a whole episode. Rachel andn Tina swap, curtain, Finn swap, pucking, Blaine Santana and already one of my favorites, Brittany and Mercedes, Quinn and Sugar, Sam and Rory, Mike and Joe and Sue and Will.

Speaker 2

Phenomenal work by everyone.

Speaker 1

No, really, this is where everybody's acting chops really were shown off. Because I was so impressed.

Speaker 2

We were having the time of our lives. It's so funny. There's clips online a bts of us doing you know, and others as and we were you know normally by that point where like any moment we have to just like not talk to anyone and be quiet for a little bit. We were really trying to hold on to and poor Kaylin and Mia, who were doing a lot of the the interviews during that time, they had the

really unfun task of trying to coax us into doing these. Literally, this was the only day everybody wanted to do it. Everyone was like, put us in front of the camera and we're gonna be that character.

Speaker 1

Still. It was so much fun, so much fun. This is the first episode where Tina is prominently featured and she lets.

Speaker 2

Us know about it, as she should. We'll get yeah, and the recap this is actually this is what I'm referring to. This episode's recap is almost fifty seconds long, the longest in the series, and it mainly focuses on the neglect of Tina in the past three seasons. It does a full review of Tina, and it is phenomenal. It's insane, and it is Ian at his best, and

they really did. It's like, you know, nowadays you can go on and on like YouTube and like find clips and someone's made like a fan cam or fan edit their favorite character. They did it for this episode as a recap for like, not the episodes that have happened this season, for a character in the entirety of the series up to this point. I dare say that's never happened in the television show before. It was so dynamic they had to. I wish I need to get a transcript of it. It is insane.

Speaker 1

I forgot about it. I forgot that they did that, And.

Speaker 2

I also feel like that sets the tone for the episode.

Speaker 1

It does well basically. This is also the first episode since A Night of Neglect the episode to feature a solo by Tina, which so it's the twenty five episodes without a solo Jenna, No wonder I was off the rails. Yeah, I wonder I fell off the rails.

Speaker 2

Yeah. They didn't really have to write anything new, like I mean, they just sort of could borrow. They were calling I felt like the writers were calling themselves out. Yeah a little bit, and which was also part of your MM correct me if I'm wrong, which is part of your like not complaint, But yeah, what you're what am I trying to say here?

Speaker 1

Complaint.

Speaker 2

Yeah, complaint was earlier in the season. Yes, And while you're upset and voicing it and underutilized, underutilized, and you felt crazy for voicing it, and it's like, okay, well here they are voicing it, right, And that was actually the best part. Yeah, did you feel some sort of like, ah, yeah, I get it, they see me finally, like nobody acknowledged it for so long. They're like, well, there's just a lot of characters, don't you know, Like there's just.

Speaker 1

A lot of stuff. Don't worry people still like pay attention to Tina. Like I felt like I they weren't even acknowledging the fact that like they weren't using me or didn't know quite how to use me.

Speaker 2

And so for them to just finally like.

Speaker 1

Do this, I was like, ah, thank you, because then it's funny to me, right at least then it's there's there's like a story behind it, not just like let's just gloss over it and not use her anymore.

Speaker 2

And why yeah, like use it, like use that then to give you something. Well then they did too. It's oh she got the our producer sound got the the script of Tina's intro. I mean let me just give you a little taste. It's not going to be as good as Ian, obviously, but this is just so right anyway. Okay, the glee club's been ignoring Tina all year long. Actually, she kind of got ignored last year too. Actually, Tina's sort of been ignored the whole time, and she's been

in the new direction since like forever. The first time she got a solo, she insisted she was bad and forced mister She to give the song to Rachel. And every solo since she's either gotten booed or started crying uncontrollably. No one noticed that she went from dressing punk to dressing Gotha, dressing like a go go dancer in the sixties, swinging London. She even got Mike Chang into college and she hardly gotta thank you. Sometimes people don't even seem

to know her name. That's right, Like, that's right, it is nice. I did it feel like that was sort of like not an apology, but just like you really get it.

Speaker 1

Yes, finally, like finally, yes, I felt like relief. I felt relief. It was This is funny, though, because this is where we talk about like act out a little bit and you get an episode just is coming off the heels of that, so like my Michael kind of thing that happened during that period of time, and then like I came back just like very great, gracious and happy to come back and work and put my head down, and then what pops up on my doorstep? But an

episode that is centered around Tina. And what's nice is that it's not can you because all of those things that Ian was saying in that recap are all things writers chose to do, right, right, So like that's not anything on you, right, right right, And I think a lot of the other personal things that got put into the episodes were calling out really personal things and behaviors. Yes, and like this wasn't no, not at all exactly. Sounds like a self reflection of like, yeah, let's repent. Yeah.

I felt like it wasn't like an apology, but it was like, oh, an acknowledgment of like that's why I was acting crazy.

Speaker 2

Well, it's like, how can we make this up to you?

Speaker 1

Yeah, it was nice. This is a course correction totally. Every storyline from Choke is now continued in this episode. So problem was like a pause the promisaurus and then we're resuming Puck storyline and the choke you know, of Rachel's audition and all of that.

Speaker 2

So, which is nice. Didn't always happen, No, it's great to come back to it. What's also interesting is that this is the first time that two episodes of Glee aired in one night. So after this episode aired, Nationals aired immediately after it, and it was I mean, yeah, it's the shortest time gap between two episodes.

Speaker 1

Everybody else though in the world Sky one in the UK and in Ireland and then Channel ten in Australia, they didn't air Nationals on the same day as props, so that was an American decision.

Speaker 2

Yeah, which is also interesting because the entirety of the season series this thus far, they had been airing i think almost within twenty four hours, and so they were noticing things online and whatnot.

Speaker 1

This was Ian's first Glee, the first episode as a director.

Speaker 2

Did you.

Speaker 1

Love that?

Speaker 2

Because you were in this episode a lot and we were all really close with Ian and we know Ian so well, Like was it nice to like have someone like that?

Speaker 1

Partially you're a big episode partially, so it ended up that way. Ian was the best, Like I'll tell you all about it, but I was nervous because we've had new guest directors before and because we're such a different formula. I was a little nervous that like somebody like a Stultz or a Paris or a returning guest director like that I knew would get it done the way it needs to get done. So at first I was a little nervous because I was like, how's how's this going

to go? But it ended up being awesome. He's the best and it's so cool to have like it was to have Brad or Ryan on set. They felt the same where you're like, oh, and Ian's even more so, like he's closer an age. He's like a friend, you know, like he's a buddy. He didn't feel like a boss, no exactly, and he never acted like he ascertained where he had to. But he was just much, you know, much more into the creative out of everything.

Speaker 2

Jenna, you did your own stunt falling into the fountain.

Speaker 1

Oh, I fell into the fountain many many times, many many times, so many times.

Speaker 2

And they had stunt doubles.

Speaker 1

They did a couple. They had a couple, so they had two stunt doubles well and also because in order to get me to do it, I had to get wet, and so it was like the reset was a very big one. And so what they I think they had the fall happen a few times just in case where they didn't have to reset me, but they used most of my staff. And then in the fountain as well, there were GoPros at the bottom and they padded the bottom with pads that looked like the stone of the fountain.

And so when I hit my head, I would go under and I would blow bubbles and I would go under and hit my head and the GoPro would get it, and then I'd come back up and he'd be like, do it again, And so I go back hunder water and like hit my head again. And it was freezing, and so they were like all the hair and makeup department were like blowing blow dryers on me in between.

Speaker 2

In the mall, was it the same mall we always used?

Speaker 1

It was a different mall, And I thought it was the mall that actually go to all the time now by my house, but I don't think it was.

Speaker 2

But it wasn't the Eagle Rock one. Yeah, the one where we did safety dance and Barbara Stress. For the record, the stunt looked great.

Speaker 1

Thanks. It was a long day. It was a really long day because then I also had to get into the Rachel Berry outfit and get wet. Oh yeah, that's right. So not only did I go in as Tina come out as Tina, I went in as Rachel, went out as Rachel.

Speaker 2

Ooh, it looks so obviously, it looks so great on camera and in the episode, and just when it works so flawlessly, you don't think about and you shouldn't be thinking about the logistics of it as a viewer, but totally damns of that. Also, just to like, I don't know, standing around in wet clothing is one of the kids feelings.

Speaker 1

It was so fun. I was so excited to do everything that I did in the episode that it was like any other one where like You're like, I'm not getting used and I'm still wet.

Speaker 2

Angering curtain, Blaine, are there just hanging out in the seats? I don't know what you're texting on.

Speaker 1

I don't either.

Speaker 2

Yeah, paper and fabric. So, with the exception of the headband, the outfit that Tina wears as Rachel is similar to the one Rachel wore in the bathroom scene and Roads Not Taken And.

Speaker 1

In Praeger's Puck said you could addressed to school and people would think it was cool. And in this episode he does wear a dressed to school and it is not getting the cool meter.

Speaker 2

You know what's not cool? Pulling a knife?

Speaker 1

Oh my god, you know what's funny? Though then he said it was a prop. It's not good, but still funny.

Speaker 2

It was funny. It was the only way to save it. In this episode, Tina as Rachel tells Rachel as Tina that it'll be her time to shine or her turn to shine next school year. Tina does get her time to shine when she is prominently featured in every competition sets.

Speaker 1

Oh just wait, it's Tina's time.

Speaker 2

That's right. Next season is Tina's she is coming out. We're featuring vocals and storyline.

Speaker 1

That's right.

Speaker 2

I was worried watching this. I'm like, but does she Oh? She does, because you know track record shows that like maybe not maybe not, No, No, she does. And I have to say, I think it's helpful when you have.

Speaker 1

More voices in the writer's room to sort of like remind people, yeah, and keep track of those things. Yes, agreed, because brad Ian and Ryan are the best and like obviously created this entire world, but they were also show running and managing a lot of different departments, managing other shows as well, right, and so it's like it's important to have those voices who are only centered on this one that is right show, that's right to keep track

of Tina, I mean the fifteen thousand cast members. Okay, when will and who are discussing the national set list. Tina and Quinn's names are both in the Troubletones performance of Edge of Glory, yet they weren't placed into that performance until nationals and Sugar and Brittany are also listed as soloists even though they don't see one.

Speaker 2

Artie. Tina and Sam are similarly erroneously listed under Paradise by the dashboard light correct we did not.

Speaker 1

The word performed is also misspelled as per form from brom at the.

Speaker 2

Bottom of the cell We'll get you every time. During the body switching scenes, most of the characters have continuity and their respective clothing choices. However, Rachel asked Tina is not depicting sporting Tina's sixty swinging London style, but rather her goth punk style from season one and two.

Speaker 1

You know why I feel that because I think that it looks a little too similar to Rachel, so it was an easier extreme. Also, the blue in her hair, yeah bad painted the picture very distinguishable. Okay, So when Rachel is talking to Tina about solo, she asks Tina if she has a Twitter or Facebook account and proceeds to say that she doesn't. However, in Saturday Night Leave Her, she tweeted the one that I'm engaged to to come

to the auditorium, meaning she does have a Twitter. Again, she wants that was so recent too, You're theory about having more writers.

Speaker 2

Look, I didn't mean about continuity.

Speaker 1

I just mean to make that Tina was not forgotten. Okay. When Tina bumps her head, the world of New Directions is turned upside down in her eyes. Okay?

Speaker 2

Is that it is that the official summary?

Speaker 1

That's the official Fox.

Speaker 2

Damn.

Speaker 1

Okay yep.

Speaker 2

So what happens is it's time for nationals and Rachel's getting out a solo whooped de dow and Tina says no, no, I'm done being a prop in the background, and you storm out. Yeah, my name is Tina. Tina Cohen. Yes, I remember. I remember that all so well, and we were all so happy that you were getting all this that we were just like fuck yes, like go off, buddy,

and also let it out. I felt like when you get moments like that where you get to tell off all these characters, I guess therapeutic, it's so good.

Speaker 1

Just like also, a muscle was not being used, and so I was like, oh my god, there's so much to do in this I have so much to do in this episode and so many lines and like have to actually like deliver. It kind of did feel like that for like, oh, this is what Lee has to do every week. You know. I it's like that you can't do it. You just know the chance I wasn't given them. My muscle was not being flexed, and finally here it is being flexed, and it's sore. Now, it's

really sore. But it was so much fun. So soa Tina falls into a fountain and she's angry and she falls into a fountain, which we talked about the stunt. Jenna does her own stunts.

Speaker 2

But can we before we get there, sure, I want to talk about the scene where Rachel follows.

Speaker 1

Okay, let's talk about it.

Speaker 2

It felt very Gaslight Girl Boss Gate Keep Yes.

Speaker 1

Partially. The other part of it was also Mike Chang getting angry at Tina for speaking up, which was like and then at the end him smiling when she he's seen that she's like appreciating the place in which she's at, and I'm like, oh, she just has to make everybody happy and especially the men. And also like a woman speaking up and getting angry. Now everybody's trying to like mediate and fix when like Finn storms out, Puck storms out, nobody's trying to Anoyan's calling her them angry.

Speaker 2

Well when and you say it in the episode that like when Rachel does it, it's part of her thing. Yeah, and it's like, oh, that's just her, she's a star. It's fine. But when you do it, you get told to like go back to your place, like you should

just be grateful. Exactly exactly because that scene is she offers me fifty dollars, and also like the whole thing watching of her being like like, well, I do see your point, I do question The timing of it was like oh, oh, oh you're like okay, so I understand you, but I think I hear your feelings, but and I may be looking too hard into this, it all felt that was all very targeted in a way where it's like what happened in real life to you during a

Michael episode, a really big episode, and then being like, Okay, we hear you, but like bad times right now, which is like not a great and I'm not I don't know if that's you know, but it felt that mirror. It felt projected. Yes, many scenes in this felt very reminiscent familiar.

Speaker 1

So Tina falls into a fountain and she answer her head. This is not the first time Tina will hit her head or get hit in the head. So Tina's making the costume. This was made a while back, apparently that

Tina worked on costumes. I guess first it was Mercedes, and then when we're when Mercedes, when they realized that they use her for every song, they were like, oh, Tina can just do it, but like the only time we ever see it you with just the roles of fabric, and then at the end saying like it takes a lot of crystals to make something.

Speaker 2

Of the time, the amount of time these kids spend at school. Because at the end too, when you're all just like sewing, but.

Speaker 1

Then we do do that a lot. So I love Sugar do that for Greece as well.

Speaker 2

I love it. I really really enjoyed it.

Speaker 1

It's really funny. It's very funny. I liked Finguish with Sugar.

Speaker 2

Oh, I mean, I dream that was all we ever wanted. There's more scenes of Finessa so great. So you hit your head, yeah, and the body swap happens when you got this script. I don't remember if we knew a body swap was. I feel like we sort of knew because I didn't ask these questions.

Speaker 1

Yes, but I didn't really know to the extent of this where everybody was going to get swapped.

Speaker 2

Because I remember pitching NYA and I wanted to body swap, and I remember us coordinating, like I don't know if Ryan came in was like who would you want to play? I don't remember who.

Speaker 1

Maybe he did come in and ask us that and we were like, something weird is going to happen, or.

Speaker 2

Maybe somebody did. But because I don't think Ryan was really around with us, but I think.

Speaker 1

I think when they were writing it as somebody came down and told us what was happening, something was coming, but I didn't know about the whole thing. It was centered around you exactly.

Speaker 2

You're correct. So how did you feel reading this? Do you remember?

Speaker 1

I remember like being in shock, like pure shock. You're like, wow, my name is in this script so much. But I loved it. I was so excited. I was genuinely so excited. I was terrified when I saw the songs. Terrified. Excited though, nonetheless.

And I just remember like going into like like like work mode, I guess and be like okay, okay, okay, and you're just like, okay, I gotta start memorizing, like you really just like because usually you read the script, you're like, oh okay, I can rememorize that on the day or the night before, like it's you know, a quick scene or whatever. But when you have multiple scenes with lots of dialogue and what we Goldberg is involved and Leah's involved, You're like, I better show the fuck

up if they're giving me all of this. So there's also like pressure. They're like, oh yeah, like you better deliver. Deliver.

Speaker 2

Like not seeing you week, like you were just like I didn't know what any of this didn't look like because you're in a lot of things without the rest of us.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it was small groups of people too.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so it was really you were just gone.

Speaker 1

Yes, that's right. I was gone. It was crazy. I remember I was gone so much that you hadn't even heard because you loved me before we shot it.

Speaker 2

That's right. And so that's that's the story I always tell too. When you were shooting your coverage of it and they didn't have us in the audience for it, and I they were shooting something, I snuck in. I was in the wings and I heard it for the first time on the loud speakers. You won the auditorium stage and Jenna, you killed that. It was you got this rasp you were running. It was so good, and I was like, finally people can hear you like whale,

like you can really wail. Obviously you downplay it and that's fine.

Speaker 1

But I knew that song. That's one of the songs that you grew like I grew up listening to. So like you're just like, oh, I could I know every run. I know it all. I don't know if I can do it, but I know them all. So you go in like with like a different confidence than being like, I don't know this song at all. I've never heard this and I've never tried it, especially.

Speaker 2

When it's Seline. Like anything that can help you, you'll take a.

Speaker 1

Thousand percent a thousand. I was like, are you sure this is Leah? You sure she's not gonna sing this one that I just love? Think it?

Speaker 2

How did you You've known Leah longer than anybody? Yeah, on the show, so you had to do an impersonation of Rachel. Oh my God of Leah doing Rachel. And I feel I remember talking to you about like, well, oh you know her.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

And also like anybody you've seen on TikTok, people do such good impressions of anybody. She is very distinct, man, how did you prepare for that? I felt like we've seen we saw enough of it.

Speaker 1

That like the bass was already there right, like even in the scenes with Rachel and Leah, like you know, she's like, oh, she speaks and like run on sentences, and she sees very quickly with different like there's like little accents that she hits all like COmON like very often. And so she has these little ticks and everybody has them, right like you just learn, which is why it was like so cool to watch everybody do everybody else, because

like you don't get to see that in yourself. And then Ian really helped me with the song and I got up there and I was like, I just don't know how do you do it in a song, like I know how to do it in the scenes. And he gave me like a couple of like distinctive things that she does which I had already like kind watched, which was like the shoulders and the squinty like closing the eyes and the hands and the hands on the stomach and so.

Speaker 2

Insane.

Speaker 1

You just throw those in there and like every few times and you can just like it just feels like instinctual.

Speaker 2

After a while, you did this little head turn to the side too on like the belting, which she does, and it was very effective, those zoom outs, those like pans like on the crane and it comes back and you're holding your stomach and it is.

Speaker 1

And like this is all out of love. You know. Everybody was doing it like out of love for one another. Because then when Lea does me in the hallway, she's like, sometimes you speak out the side of your mouth, which I do, and she caught that and she's like, I'm gonna do that. I'm kind of gonna look down and speak really slowly. And it was really funny to watch, like to play each other because we've known each other

for so long. It was also really fun. We had so much fun during that episode shooting together because a lot of the scenes were just the two of us, like in the car, just so random, and then like with whoopee and and doing flashdance. It was so so much fun. How did you.

Speaker 2

Shoot the car scene?

Speaker 1

It was on a rig.

Speaker 2

Were you and you actually going through streets?

Speaker 1

Yeah, we were like I think we were in like Griffith Park area. I can't remember, but we were definitely on the streets. Yeah, we were out in the world. Oh, it was so much fun, Like we're there photos of us, Like Penny was in the window from the outside and merely are inside. She was reading Magle and was reading magazines the whole time. We had Walkie in the car so that they could talk to us, and we're just like holding our hands up like a roller coaster.

Speaker 2

Oh fun.

Speaker 1

It was hot in there, for sure, but it was like so much fun because we're just like buy ours.

Speaker 2

Driving Like.

Speaker 1

It was really funny. That was a really fun scene to do. Yeah, I love that one because you don't get in a car often, you know, I mean when when are we in Glee in a car? And in a car too? Oh? I teached in a movie recently and on the reshoot day, not recently, but on reshoot day, we had to do the car again. It was a very expensive day and started to rain and it's just

pouring rain. It's not supposed to be raining. We're supposed to be driving down the coast to San Diego and it is poor and that is a very expensive day because you have to get a police squirt to do a rig like that on the PCH. Have you done a car scene?

Speaker 2

Yeah, I have and American horror stories. I did a car scene, but it was not on a rig. Oh, you were just driving driving and I was a passenger. And it was down sunset at Sunset closet like the I remember that populated area that hard and so people are watching and we're dressed like insane people. But it was fun, you know, it was like ridiculous.

Speaker 1

Yeah, for people who don't know, a rig is like we're you're not actually driving the drive the car is like on a platform, so you're not driving. Somebody's truck is driving you in front, and it looks like you're driving, so that you can do your lines instead of focusing on not hitting somebody. I've also had to drive a car during a scene in a low budget.

Speaker 2

Are you a good driver?

Speaker 1

I am a good driver. I'm an aggressive driver. I would say I'm a pretty good driver, though I don't ask other people because I'm not a good judge of myself anyway. So Tina takes Rachel to go see Whoopy.

Speaker 2

I liked the whole bit about Tina as Rachel doing the things she wished Rachel would do for Tina in real life by giving her credit. And then when you come out of it, you're like, Okay, here's what I've learned. Yes, exactly, we're going to go see Whoopy Goldberg and we're going to sort this out right, and then you save her ass.

Speaker 1

Well, we'll see about that. But hopefully that was.

Speaker 2

A good speech because it's the only time Whoopy is like open and receptive, because you're like, you lay into her, You're like, look, she's a pain in the ass.

Speaker 1

Yeah, And then Rachel g has the bravery to say like you auditioned for Juliard four times. We have to go back, though, because we have to talk about the swap for everybody else. You playing Naya and Nya playing you is the funniest think ever. In the scene in the hallway, I could not look at you straight.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you couldn't. I felt so gross, did you because I looked insane, like I don't know you know something about though? Like you almost I almost felt like I wanted to be in like drag.

Speaker 1

But you weren't. Yeah.

Speaker 2

Well, I felt like I was dressed in boy clothes and I was wearing like the boy cheerleading outfit. They should have just put you in the skirt I wanted to. And Ryan was so so interesting because I did ask. I ran into him, I think, and I asked him and he's like, no.

Speaker 1

No, Naya's you though is very funny.

Speaker 2

Well, I mean, shockingly to no one. She was great.

Speaker 1

It's ridiculous. And like the photo where she took of her sitting like on her Papa wheelie, yes, like you my other favorite pair. Everybody was really it was wildly good. Makeup, hair, costume really did their job. They excelled. But Sugar and Quinn just especially Diana. I think the thing is that if you know Diana, you know that she's part there's a sugar mata inside of her. Yeah, and so this felt like Diana coming out. Yes, it was fully funniest.

I also thought Mark's Darren was quite good because you know, when you see people do these things, they add in some of those mannerisms that you were talking about that you did for Rachel, Yeah, and you're like, oh, yeah, you do that. Mark did the same where he turned his head a bunch obviously exaggerated. We were like, yeah, ar,

it's so good, it's so good. Everybody was excellent. Truth seeing when you were like the best time we had was when you were performing because like me there in the auditorium there, no you were up on stage, but because we were all and it was I think on our coverage when we were because we were just like anyone, do what you want, yeah, and you get all those reactions.

And that's where everyone finally got because not everybody had dialogue as a lot of dialogue as the characters, right, Oh my god, Amber and Heather, that's Amber as Brittany was flawless. But because we didn't have that much time to be those characters. We were just like trying to do anything. I know you had to, you had to. It was excellent. We really you guys really did it.

Speaker 2

I wish we got some cord doing an Irish accent. That would have been funny. They were funny looking. Oh my god, Harry with the dreads, he just looked like a sam a casual pan up the dreads.

Speaker 1

It's a wild wild looked cool.

Speaker 2

It was so good. One of the most fun times on the show.

Speaker 1

Yes, definitely. It was like a little boost before Nationals untilfore the end of the season. So simultaneously, Sue and is showing us a projector a video of unique invocal adrenaline that that Kurt magically took a snuck in and then converted it to one beautiful film, a beautiful film projector. And she thinks that the unique factor is dressing and drag and wants curtiformism. Poorcelina.

Speaker 2

Look, there's a lot of the cross dressing, drag trands. Like everything was interchangeable in this episode. But obviously in Gay like all those things were all interchangeable, Like everything was just right. We don't know how to identify anything, and it was part of Sue's like, you know, horribleness slash comedy. M So just the preface, like all of this is coming from a place of yes, yes it was. Yeah, times have changed, yes exactly, and we have a better

vocabulary and understanding of these things, right. But Sue yes is taking advantage of the situation and just assumes that because Kurt's kay, he's one step away from dressing as a woman.

Speaker 1

So that leads us to the other storyline in this episode. So, Puck, you mentioned last week that we kind of skipped over Puck failing. Yeah, well, Puck comes to school in a dress which he's taking him off with the team. He's doing something actually very gracious for the bigger, greater good for once, and.

Speaker 2

He gets in in a lot of trouble and he gets in a fight with the hockey team. So I know we're talking about dresses because Kurt won't talk wear the dress and he says he's never won a dress, and then they do that whip cut to he and Blaine as sneaky in the situation during the weeks.

Speaker 1

Another great impression.

Speaker 2

Of this episode hominal. Anyway, back to the seriousness of sorry, what.

Speaker 1

A joy that little find ten second snippet was this episode is I loved this episode Don't be unhinged, but that was Ian. I think that was all of Ian's brilliance. Yeah, so Puck comes school and dress he gets in a fight with the hockey team and it leads him to a fight outside with the hockey team. They throw him in the dumpster and then he pulls out quote unquote knife and makes everybody think he's pulling on a knife. Hockey team's like, well, what the hell, and then be

steps in and is like, got it here? So it was a great to the Yeah. I loved how that was shot too, of just her arm coming in grabbing him and of course she just disarms his ass totally. Pug admits that it's just a prop knife from West Side story. It still not acceptable, but I did giggle, and he's he is now finally breaking down, saying he feels like he's worth nothing and he's got nobody. And secretly Dot is dealing or Beast is dealing with Cooter.

She's still with him even though he is abusive, and uh, this whole storyline is them basically helping each other.

Speaker 2

Right, It's really sweet and like really powerful. That scene between them breaking down with each other. Oh my god, it was excellent. Yeah, we haven't seen a lot from from Puck in this way, and we were getting like a taste of it in Choke and I was like, Okay, where is this going a die? And then You're like, oh, okay, here it isn't again.

Speaker 1

I like that.

Speaker 2

I do like the I know I was saying, like we haven't addressed it. I'm revising that because I do think the slow burn, yeah, of him bottling it all up fits his character.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2

And I think having Beast be the person right that he feels comfortable enough or just can no longer keep it in with makes sense. Yeah, the coach and just the person who represents that to him. And also I think Dot just brings out of it, doesn't she She really does. And she called him Pumpkin, which, if anybody knows Dot personally, Dot says pumpkin. And so they started writing that in which I thought was really sweet. It broke my heart.

Speaker 1

And she decides she's gonna help Puck. But her teacher, his teacher, the one who what's her name, the one who he tries to hit on, is gonna let him take the test again because she realized that he is actually thinking about other people than just himself, and so she's giving him a second chance. And they sing, mean, I love this m h.

Speaker 2

That was really unexpected. I was not quite cool.

Speaker 1

Yeah, really good. I really like the storyline, and I really like the DoD storyline now with Cooter. Aside from the whole the issues we had with the the last episode, that scene with her and Couter is also so wildly powerful and she's like, He's like, who's gonna love even like I have or I did? And she says me, and you're like.

Speaker 2

And then when she shows up and sues office with a bag and Jane's reaction to.

Speaker 1

That just it's great. It's really all great.

Speaker 2

Breaks my heart.

Speaker 1

It's all great.

Speaker 2

I mean they're really writing this ship out of yes,

these episodes, Like I really like storylines, really great. Yeah, I do have to say as much as I love Tina's storyline, Yeah, and like obviously you're a moment getting to shine, but the past two episodes have been like we'll give prom queen to Rachel and then what like the moral arc of Tina's thing, and I think it's really represented through Mike is like you go through this thing and you come out a better person, right, and you help her, and you give Rachel the confidence and

the ability to like call out Thibodeau to really hopefully give her a second chance. So episode about second chances and Coach Beast was not giving Cooder another chance. Puck gets a second chance, and you get a second chance

in a way. Tina gets a second chance in a way to like revisit the situation, and it's like, what is the moral of the story that, Okay, just suck it up, Like, oh, Rachel's too powerful and too good and you just need to well, Okay, look, I think I think from Tina's point of view or the.

Speaker 1

Way I saw it in the episode was like appreciating other people's perspectives. So like Tina putting herself in Rachel's shoes for one second, everybody's swapping and understanding, And obviously we didn't see that a lot in other characters we shot in Tina and Rachel, Like at least Tina and Rachel's situation was like it's not that it just all comes easy to Rachel. Some of it does, but like she works really hard, all the hard works, she's putting

into this. There's a lot of pressure. There's a lot that comes with fame. There's a lot that comes with the being the leader that like Tina's like, okay, I know I'll get my turn now I understand better what it takes. Yeah, from the inside, I mean you have to make it work. Yeah right, you know. Yeah, but I yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2

That look of Mike walking past and I was like, get out of here, Mike, I did.

Speaker 1

I had the same reaction. I was like, do we need that? We need that validation.

Speaker 2

Let the lady so in peace. Tina's been on a journey.

Speaker 1

We need that validation, Mike, right from the man, get out of here, be sure, do not what if Tina is a kid? Yeah, man, ain't shit. Keep going. You don't need to please anybody. I got you into college Bridge right, Oh man, Okay, let's grade these performances. There's only four. Okay, great, I won't give up. I give that.

Speaker 2

A. Yeah, ourn ain't minus because you love me? A plus plus plus plus Jenna, Wow, I'm feeling the love as you should.

Speaker 1

Mean A plus. I think a plus Flash dance.

Speaker 2

Hey, you guys sound great together.

Speaker 1

It's a fun song to sing it's really it's just a fa and your voices, both of your voices are so high, and I was like, who's doing the higher harmony?

Speaker 2

I think she was, but like, yeah, it's really high. And because you love me, you both have this rasp you can do when you're up there. That's interesting. I know we heard never thought about that, because she has it in Flash Dance when she's up there doing like some ad libs and things towards the end on the school bus. Yeah, it's like really raspy vocal quality. And you don't imagine her having that. Yeah, yeah, you And it's like you guys tap into it when you get

up there, and it is so satisfying. Interesting, it sounds so cool. Let's do some Cardi chakes, Okay, cringe moments, ripe. Yeah, I think Sue in all the wrong ways. Referring to how Sue referred.

Speaker 1

To Unique Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, and also little people, Yeah say no more. The best dance move the welding masks.

Speaker 2

We talked about the props.

Speaker 1

I don't even remember the being in that welding number. Was Tina out there?

Speaker 2

I don't know. I guess it doesn't help with the whole point of this episode. I do remember that day though, and they had, you know, someone come on teach us how to like weld and oh and I definitely wasn't there. There was a big safety meeting about not being close. You were probably recording or something. You had a lot to do this episode.

Speaker 1

Right Or was that the time where Tina and rache short. No, that was before Tina and Rachel were not there. So maybe we were on the way to Thibodeau. We were going to see Tippoteau. We must have been I road trip at that time.

Speaker 2

In the car, I knew.

Speaker 1

I was like, I do not remember any of this. That's scary, Like I had no memory even after watching it. Okay, good, I wasn't there.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you're not crazy.

Speaker 1

Oh that's interesting. Okay, that's funny. Yeah, so I think the welding stuff was the best dance. Yeah, well, I mean I guess the vocal adrenaline in the background too, that was very funny. I have to say, when like they invented the hardest show choir move ever, that is dank and like it doesn't look that hard.

Speaker 2

I loved that. That also feels like something Ian could put in. Yeah, I don't know if I script it that way, but upon seeing the footage, she's like, no, okay, the song because you loved me, all right, don't try to fight it. Jenna, Okay, well, I think mean is up there too. Best bruns by a prop. I think the the welding machine things.

Speaker 1

I mean, the switchblade, even though it's not the it's a weapon, it's still everybody was fake like that was funny. It was very good.

Speaker 2

I agree.

Speaker 1

The best line.

Speaker 2

Oh, I remember reading this line for the first time. I remember watching it. Okay, Santana says britt and I are gay and Mercedes is black, so kicking is is that would be a hate crime. And then Brittany goes, well, I'm not totally gay, but I think the trees are born in the same way as babies, so kicking me out would be kind of mean.

Speaker 1

Oh my, oh my god. Something a hitch cockline. It's too good line, too good performance, MVP.

Speaker 2

Jenna. No, Jenna, No, it's your time, Jenna, this week is yours.

Speaker 1

Thanks. I'm giving Mark. Also, yeah, a notable yeah, I mean everybody, really this episode really brought it.

Speaker 2

But I think you brought it the most.

Speaker 1

I know.

Speaker 2

This is probably painful, but just you just got to accept it. Okay, it's hard, I'll take it. So ship we found on TikTok. Santana is my beloved clean out empire on TikTok. Now the music is Daddy's Own by Usher. That's important for this. And it's a picture of Brittany and it says, but I love Artie. And then the next photo in the slide is Naya dressed as me or Santana dressed as already as say lest It's so good.

Speaker 1

That's funny.

Speaker 2

Oh god, it's so good. I mean, yeah, someone said I love modern art. This was really one of the most fun episodes for us to film, and I forget about that, right. It was such a blast, really fun, really really fun.

Speaker 1

I'm so glad it was fun for everybody.

Speaker 2

I had a really hard time not skipping ahead to nationals. Oh, I couldn't. I was really up against the game today. But that's why I didn't.

Speaker 1

But I was.

Speaker 2

I was going to add an eye doctor's appointment, and so I was considering being late tonight our experiment to watch the national Oh, I can't wait to see what I'm very excited. It's paradise for fan, I feel like maybe one of these episodes, you and I should get together and watch it. Put it on, set up a camera and the mics, open a bottle of wine. I'm just chat about it into it. Maybe that's where we do that with two thousand and nine. Oh god, yeah, is it too sad?

Speaker 1

Maybe?

Speaker 2

Okay, I think that would be fun, And then we can make Austin and David Wade on.

Speaker 1

This good luck awesome?

Speaker 2

We'd wait on.

Speaker 1

David would.

Speaker 2

David would wait on me?

Speaker 1

He would? You?

Speaker 2

There we go?

Speaker 1

Definitely great? No, get a good foot rub. Okay, all right, well that was props. Thanks for joining everybody.

Speaker 2

I'm proud of you. You were great. You deserve all the love.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

Speaker 2

That's what you really missed. Thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram at and that's what you really miss pod. Make sure to write us a review and leave us five stars. See you next time,

Transcript source: Provided by creator in RSS feed: download file
For the best experience, listen in Metacast app for iOS or Android