And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
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Welcome to and that's where you really miss podcast. I am Jenna, I.
Am Kevin, and wow wow wow wow.
Wow wow wow wowsa, it's all I can.
You welcome in advance. You know, because Jenna is the best and the most universally liked person I don't know.
I don't know about that.
She is able to sometimes pull guests that the rest of us just are grateful for her. So Jenna, tell him.
Who we have today, the man, the myth, the legend, Uncle Jesse himself, our friend, our dear dear friend, John Stamos, Doctor Carl. He's here and I don't need to say much more.
And also because doctor Carl is currently rehearsing for a tour, we also might have a surprise guest. Oh my god that hops in to say hey, and I will never recover.
I mean, it's just too much for one fun heart.
Oh he's the best of Enjoy our conversation with the loveliest, hottest John Stamos.
John, Jenna, Kevin.
I miss you so much, both of you, guys.
I miss you so much, so much, so much for being.
Here my pleasure. I miss one of you more than the other. If you guys, you guys figured out. I'm not saying who. We have so much to talk about, but we have so much to unpack. I mean, Glee, fine, whatever, but we we got to talk about Kevin. I'm proud of you. You found your true thing and you're out there fighting the good fight. And uh, I'm really uh. I've watched you and I'm just I'm a proud friend. You've really done fantastic.
My god, John, that's so sweet. Thank you so much.
Well, sure, John, form just giving us all the compliments.
You're next, Yeah, go to Jenna out, please go keep talking.
I really I was so impressed with you, and so are you in a relationship now?
I am? I yeah. You Actually you met my first boyfriend back in the day. You didn't probably know it was my boyfriend because he and Noice the hell out of me because you came to the trailer one day and then he was like, oh my god, I love you. I grew up in Brazil and I love you since Brazil and I it was like the first three days of you working with us, and I was so mortified.
Oh come on, well, yeah, you're like the nicest human on the face of the planet, and of course you would not care, but I did because I was trying to make a good impression with the one and only John Stamos.
You did you remember the Living Legend?
Do you remember the first one of the first days, I was standing on my steps of the trailer and I gathered you guys were all together for some reason. So camere, guys, I'm gonna give you one piece of advice. Don't ee each other.
You don't say that too late.
Yeah, that's probably what we said too late, thank for some people.
But but you two were the most welcoming to me, and we were very you know, for you folks out there, we stayed very close. We were to Disney that we should talk about yea and what you guys were my because it was well, I haven't listened to much of the shows, but you no, no, it was It's great, but you're started. This is the second season, right, and you guys were just starting to be the biggest things on the planet. Right. Yeah, And you guys stayed level headed for the most part.
We tried, we kept each other in check and it was very nice. You from the very beginning. I remember we all hung out. You were very good about corraling all of us together and hanging out in a trailer, and you were sort of without trying to hit us over the head with like listen to me. You would tell us these stories and about your experiences, and it was all very very illuminating and educational because it was as someone who had also been on like the most
gigantic TV show in the world. You had been through this all right, Oh.
Good, you know, yeah, I'm glad some of that wrote. You know. I had so many incredible mentors growing up, you know, and my first was Jack Klugman, you r, I don't know him, and then you know, Gary Marshall, and these guys were Don Rickles, and yeah, I was waiting as long as I could have to pay it forward, but it certainly certainly started. Then. It was kind of like I was like, oh, I'm old and these guys are. But you know, my startom or my success whatever was
so gradual. You guys were, oh, wait before we call it, Jenna, I'm proud of you too. Congratulations on the baby.
Thanks so happy for you.
You look you work out too much, but you look great. I mean every time she's jumping and doing and running.
Right, I love I love the bouncing, thank you, thank you.
Yeah.
The last time I saw you too, it was like you weren't married yet and your kids, so congratulations to you as well. It's so crazy, it's been so freaking long. Tonight happens, right. I remember I was doing waitress and you weren't married to Caitlin yet, and you had said you were supposed to come and you couldn't, and then she was supposed to come. You were going to send her anyway because you love waitress and you were like, this girl, she's really special to me. I remember you
saying that, and I was like, that's really nice. I can't wait to meet her. And then I think she had to fly back early and she missed it and anyway to meet her, and I still haven't met her.
Oh she was there, she saw it, but yeah, I was never I wasn't in New York or I would have been there for sure. I never got a ship. I wasn't with her that trip, but she went and she loved you, and and you two have stayed good buddies this whole time.
Oh yeah, yeah, we were on FaceTime last night until yeah, like we're obsessed with each other.
You know, supposed to like work, if you can work with your friends, if you could be with your friends. Like that's kind of like the thing I've learned in this business as we've gotten olders, like just work with the people you like and you know, be kind and yeah exactly.
I mean you've done that. You've stayed so close with so many people that you've worked with. Like you have your people for sure, don't you.
Yeah, yeah, when they don't die on me sag it.
Yeah, such a kind of great guy. And like I remember texting you during that and just not even you don't even like there's nothing to say, but just like we know, we knew, we understand and like like you understood us kind of like the climb to fame, like we understood. Yeah, and it's really hard.
Yeah, you know, if we take anything away from him, and it's kind of what you're saying is like, just enjoy every moment because it goes by. Took Bass Tomorrow has never promised love who you love, you know, have children, get married, whatever, you know, because that's at the end of the day, that's important. Man. Then he never left anything on the table. He always said, I can look at every text. I love you, I miss you, I'm proud of you. You know, I want to see you naked. They got dirty, Yeah.
Yeah, as they should.
Yeah they always do. Kevin and I dirty text all the time.
Yeah, h who doesn't.
So how did you guys so second season the beginning of it, like you were, I mean, they weren't working you guys to dad quite yet? Right?
Yeah, yeah, we know we were. It was definitely I don't know what happened because between first season and second season, the schedule got even crazier, like you're saying, which you would have thought we would have gotten into a rhythm, figured out how to do this, but we really didn't yet did we, Because we added more songs I think every episode for season two. So there therefore there was
more recording, more rehearsal, less time to do anything. And so it was you were there as it was sort of cresting into time oblivion, like we didn't really know what was going on. You were just thrown into it like you, poor guy. You got there and we were like buckle up, here we go. But you rolled with of course, constant professional rolled with everything.
Well it was. It was frightening because you know, right at that point, I was starting to become the biggest show in the world. I've never seen a group of people so talented in one place or one you know, you're like, oh, this one's kind of good, this one's not so good, this one could sing. This one. You guys did everything, and I'm you know, I am not.
It took like when we had to do a hoppetuity or whatever it was, they well, I won't talk about that because this is funny stories around all us, but they remember like we did it, and those two nice choreographers were like, okay, you do this. And you guys were fuss and fussy, won blah blah blah. Here we go, hands up, and you had it. And I was like, okay, good,
let me record it. And I would rent dance studios and I would stay up all night and I have a singing teacher there and I danced and work until six or seven in the morning. Because it took me along, took me a long time.
To you guys were like, boom, well it's like a muscle. Though I said it looked like that, because that's not how it always felt, and I think it was the end verse in the very beginning when christ and Chenna came on. She came in and was like, okay, Dad that we showed it to her once she got it, and it took us, you know, three days to even remotely look like we knew anything. And I remember you coming in and being you were so open about like, you know what, I'm feeling nervous about this. I'm not
really sure if I got this? Is it okay? If we run it again, and we're like, are you kidding me? As many times as you need, We're happy just to like hang out with you. You know, we were talking about this earlier before you hopped on, because you're so talented, you're so good at so many things, and you were coming in and even being like deferring to us like how do I keep up with you guys? When to us it was like you got this already, like you're so much better than the rest of us.
No, no, no, no no. I was just older this talk at the beginning because I remember so, you know, I knew Ryan, you know the way before.
How did this happen?
Well, I'm writing, I'm writing this book, and I never thought i'd write it, but ever and a millionaires and so some of this is in there, and the publishers are don't say this, don't say that. But I think I've talked about this. But Ryan, you know, I had a deal with Warner Brothers and Philosophers sometime in the nineties, yeah, mid nineties or something. And Ryan had what was his very first show, Warner Brothers.
A Popular I think that's what it was.
Yeah, And you know, when you get these development deals, if you're lucky to you know that, you sit back and go, okay, bring them on. And pitched me some shows that I might do, you know. And Ryan was had a deal there at Warner Brothers, and so they said, oh, you got to meet this new young guy. Ryan Murphy said, okay, what's he done? Popular? What's you know? Okay, I got
a free Lune shout, but I thought. We went to the ivy and and so sitting there, he comes in, very very nice and he says, so we order and said, what's the show? And he says, well, you you play a male hooker, and your the wife and the husband, and you're kind of a therapist, but you're a hooker and you have a really cute black guy and a really cute blonde guy. You kind of like char these angels,
but you're hookers, sertain like Charlie's hookers. And I spit out my twenty seven dollars iced tea and the appetizers were just sitting on the table. I go, oh my, I got a shit with this guy for another forty Charl's bookers. And uh. And that was when we first met. And of course I should have done that show. It would have been genius of me, because all I did was complain about, oh, I got to get rid of his uncle Jesse thing, I got to do some real work.
And here comes, you know, the the genius on a white horse, saying, here's what here, you want to get rid of Koksesse? You play a hooker. But then and then years later, then years later he came to me with they offered me nip tuck and I should have done that one too, right, So he thinks, man, huh he was, but he you know, he is, no, he's been. Look if if I I probably should dedicate some of the book did because he's spent so good to me,
you know, just one show after another. But then finally then League came along and I remember we went to at that point we were he was that night we went to the what's it called the chatel Yeah, in the chateau, and you know he's running the place, right and I remember I had this really cool leather braced uh uh yeah, and he kept looking at it. I said, here, take it. No, I don't have to take it, and he gave it to him and said, we're doing I
want you to come on. I want you to play the Frankenfurther Park because we're doing a rocky horror picture show. And I said I'm in sign me up. I mean, I would done anything, but I got really excited about it, so I said, okay, great, great, so and then what are we going to play? Dentists?
And I loved it.
And when we got closer to that show, I think he directed the first episode I was in right.
Where yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's.
Right, and that was increased. You know, I don't think. I guess that was the first time he directed me in something and talk about the also the greatest director, like dude, he smut. You know he had just cut I think I think what was James Franco and uh was it? Pray Love was that was that? And Ryan directed it right, and and I said, why was he smiling so much in that movie? Like Frank, like he would just smuck, and so he was. Ryan wanted me to smile. So in those scenes were going give me Franco,
give me half Franco full. I remember that.
But so fair, buddy, so.
So because he you know, he wrote probably wrote that episode of you know right thing back then, and so he was kind of like say what you want or throwing lines at you.
Yes, the only time that we could do that was when Ryan was in the director's chair, that we were able to like go off off the cuff or like off the page.
So fun. I was so frank. I am so grateful to him. I mean then I assure you guys too. I mean, but did you ever think, like, like to just watch it. I mean, I guess we knew he was going to be the biggest thing on the planet in television and movies, but just to watch him think.
Right, I remember I was you could see it. I always say that you could. The wheels were like fully, it was like they were on the outside of his head, like yeah.
Right right, right right, yeah. And I remember what time. I think it was maybe even I was then I was on the New Normal? Was that after that? I think, so, yeah, that was really fun. Sweet for him to put me on there and then and then.
Screaming, but you had like a huge part of it's really fun.
That was fun. But on I was I went in his office and I think it was like Glee was still going on New Normal and maybe another show, and all the writers from all the shows were around, and he was sitting at his desk. He was like, by up to that show, that show, but three shows but stories out because I'm.
Like, wow, so you know that is something we happen to talk because once he the Ryan Murphy empire was growing in the early stages of Glee with Horror Story and then like New Normal, and it kept going and so he kept getting more offices on the Paramount lot. I would see him sometimes. I would go in there at lunch and just hang out with like some of our friends and they were assistants, you know, to writers and producers and things, and he'd walk in and do
exactly that. He'd be like, Okay, here are my notes and just like shout it to the wind, and then everyone would sort of like go off and do their sort of due diligence of relaying everything and keep coming with like casting choices. I remember him throwing out names and people were like what, like did you know that was happening? Like no, and then they would have to like find these people and you know, make calls and things.
It was fascinating to see, and I think you're right that like we didn't necessarily know we were with him all the time. It was fascinating and like great to when he was directing and get to work with him every day like that. But also you can't really feel the empire sort of growing, you know, him making those other deals like oh, I'm doing horror story now too. We're like cool, and we're so concerned with you know,
five six, seven eight whatever. We're yeah, going to a d that day, and so it was happening concurrently and we sort of didn't really I think, grasp that.
Right right right as you're in it.
Well that's what he said on the pot when he came on the podcast, He's like, you you know, like on one end, he didn't really know what was going on with us, which he says he wished he had taken more of a like, you know, more of a
role in that. But he was off doing horror story and had other things that he had to produce and you know, create for his deal with Fox, and like we didn't also see We thought like it was just the abandoned dad who laughed, and he was actually like, I just didn't know how to manage all of this, like manage a massive empire of people. So it was really interesting to hear and then to see you know, you say that you were kind of like watching You've witnessed a little bit of it too.
Yeah, Jama Mays is like the best, the best, most presented person.
Ever, so funny and so great to work with and getting to pair the two of you together is like a dream come true? As just a fan, how was it when you came in you got to be that little wrench that you get to be the love triangle, you know, the third part of that love triangle?
How was that getting to you know, work with Jaima and mess with Matt and all of that.
What Jama was I was gonna do a joke about three Soldi Relationshiship, but Jama was she was like Annie right, like those big guys.
Hi, you know it's great.
And uh and and you kind of wait for is that that that that veneer to kind of drop? But I don't think it ever did like that all the time. Yeah, she was wonderful, and you know I have to do Uh did I know anybody else on there? You got that I knew, Yes, I knew Matt a little bit.
Yeah.
I don't know why he I don't know if he was so happy I was on were friends. I don't know what happened, you know. Interesting, Yes, I came in doing that thing and the dentist was a blast, you know, because it was the Britney Spirits thing and they were.
A crazy episode for you to come in on too.
Yeah, and I remember Ryan said, Ryan said, hello, thank you. We're the only boys around here in the dress of old You guys never all finished that. Well, you guys never came to a Beach Boys show, right, did you guys? Ever?
Come now we're.
Playing We're playing at the Hollywood Bowl the second, third and fourth I think it is. If you guys are around July, come be my guest. Absolutely es yes, fireworks orchestra, Oh, we're coming, We're there.
You know, we every day I played Emma one song before she was born, just so that like when she came out of the room, I would wanted to see if it would calm her, if she like recognized it, and I played her God only knows every single day of my pregnancy beautiful.
Yeah, some of the greatest songs of all time.
I think it's a perfect song. Very few songs are perfect, like something that the Beatles are perfect. But I was just writing about this because I was It was my first wedding. It was the first dance and the rest of the band was there, but Carl Wilson, who sang it, passed away just like a couple of months earlier. But it's the lyrics are a little harsher than they I mean, if you really.
Listen to I don't know, I always, I may I always love you?
What kind of love song is that I may not always love you?
The first well, it's like you're saying everybody you take stink and they're like that's actually like kind of sockery, and they're like I'll be watching you and they're like, good luck on that one. Because it's a lot of people's first wedding songs anyway.
Knows brief. So it's talking about Ryan, thinking, how.
Did we jame Matt Matt James.
Yeah, I wasn't sure about because the dentist, and yeah, it was crazy. And I remember Ryan like threw me into a dance number at the last mine. He goes go slick your hair back, like grease it back, and you know, look, okay, oh yeah, well actually that was either my first day or second day. But I was sitting in a bar like a lounge chair, and I was dancing.
There was a litter dance around.
Not dancing, grinding, and you know, I'm like, this is gonna be a great job, so funny. But you guys were so kind. And then I think, I look back and I go because because everybody kind of was really sweet in the beginning, they went their own ways. They were starting you guys were. But then but I really realized that I couldn't imagine what was going through your
heads during that time. You know, just you had to just be thinking all the time about what's next, where we go, sleep, we do the right thing, you get people.
Yeah, it was hard. It was it was like they worked you. They worked us to the bone. And then on the weekends, you had like press and you had all of these things to do, and so there was just no break from each other or from the show, like no breathing room to like sit back and look back at what we were doing. And during the time, there's no like reflection time. It was just like you're almost suffocated by it in many ways, at least that's how I felt.
But at the same time it was and I'm not saying this just to like be sweet to you, but at the same time, then our job was to like show up and get to work with people like you.
Yeah, like, yeah, yeah.
It was very odd that people that we looked up to wanted to be on a show that we were. You know it still even though the show is becoming big, like you know how that like you're not al of a sudden a different person, right right, all of a sudden, you have all of these people that you love that are coming to work at your place of work, and like you turning to us being like is this right? Am I doing this thing?
Right?
You?
Really?
Well?
Speaking of we talked about this on the podcast By the Way, John. The time that you your friend Jeff decided that he was going to screen your first episode. And so we watched Britney Brittany with you, right, your first episode of the show at Jeff's house, and you forgot to tell us that it was with your cast. So like we showed up and we didn't know where we were going or like yeah, and we're like I'm like,
I'm sitting with the whole Tanner family. Like nobody told us John didn't, you know, like buried the lead.
As we show up, it's like whose house it was?
It was those are your friends? I get it, but it was just funny.
Jenna and I were sitting there like what's going on?
I remember, but I think I was closest to the two of you, right, I don't even hang out with anyone that much, because yeah, but so remember so I did that and then so the whole lure was this rocky horror picture showing to do how to do? You know? And I was like, oh, I could wait, and this is the way I thought of it, or I heard. Why I ended up not doing it was that because I remember because it was lou right, I worked with her later.
To the wardrobe.
She they made me this boostier like you know that and it was like and I said oh man, I wanted to do that. I remember. I remember sitting at at the chateau of Ryan goes, well, now your whole stomach's gonna be exposed, said, I've been working out a look a look in the chateau. Point my shirt look a little bit right. Yeah, don't don't eat those fries.
You know.
So then I remember I did the fitting for it. They took a bunch of pictures and what I heard and I could you know this is what I could be wrong? Was the network saw it in the studio? Whatever they said, you got one straight guy on the show. Keep him out of you know, women's.
God, Oh my god.
And I was so And then I think Lou call me or somebody said, which anyway, that's that's and then I was shifted over to to do the Eddie character. What do you guys know?
What do you know?
I remember you coming to us because and and you you very much got how we all worked, because we all had a piece together, like intel from different departments that we all collected. So you would come to us be like, so here's what I heard. Is this? I wanted to do that. I was ready to do it. I don't know let's see what we can find out.
Right right, No, I don't think we ever got the real intel, like why.
That is what we heard as well? Yeah, and then Amber, I think then got that. Did you ever record the song or anything?
Well? I think I did.
I think you.
Guys want to hear another piece of you know who who I bought my house from that I live in now who Adam Anders?
Oh wait, so you moved Yeah, yes, that's an amazing house.
By the way, it was until we moved in, you know. But he's that recording studio in there.
Do you remember did you.
Guys ever record there?
But some of the I think some of the bundackground, Yeah, I.
Don't, yeah, but I don't. It might have been later Darren recorded as Christmas record there recorded there anyway. So when I went into singing Hopportunity, I was like, I can't sing it, you know, this is too high, and they go, no, it'll be fine. Is it quite try Opportunity? Oh god, okay, thanks, we got it.
Well, you know that means to us they can make anything work.
Well me too, man, That's what I was that and that's what I fell in love with Auto Tune. And she's my mistress. But then we have to go on on Broadway and sing live, and it's like, come.
On right, yeah, it ruins you. You go into that studio and like sing remotely close to the note and then they can melody in it to be correct.
I on the in New York, on the Baraba shows, I was just put so much vibrato on it, and eventually I would hit the.
Exactly remind me, which shows you that you've done I saw you in nine, a really long time ago.
I was terrible around you.
You were fantastic in that.
That was one of my great failures. But I'll tell you a story about it.
But I loved you in that show.
I grew up. My parents were the type that said, if you want to do something, to do it. I don't know how your parents were with that, but it was like, don't put obstacles in the way. I can't do this. I can't I don't have an age and I don't have and I never did. I just would go. And when I finished, I work with Jack clubbing before full House, and then when I was done with Fuss,
I was like, what do I do? Jack? My careers like Uncle Jesse get to the theater coders here, I said an old saying, I don't dance, it doesn't matter. And I got a call around the time to replace Matthew Broderick and have to succeed in business. And my agent was like, you think you can? I go, yeah, me time, give me the material. And I practiced and I all night, all day song Dan went in an audition board and got it. So that was my first one.
I just did. And you look back at stuff and where did I get the balls to do that?
What is the what's that for you? Because I struggle with that myself. Where Like people are always like do theater, I'm like, it's not something I've ever seems terrifying to me because it is so the opposite. I feel like of what I get used to Like you.
No, Well, luckily I was coming from you know, sitcoms, which are kind of you know, there's a live audience when you can stop and start. I think it was about Jack's you know the best company game is like you were holding, you held the stage, you got to you know all this. So I was I been playing with the beach pers since eighty five, and you know, sometimes you'll pull up to a gig and it would be like a hundred thousand people, you know, or more so you have to So some of that was helpful.
It you know, it's just it was, but it was nothing. I never thought I don't want to be on Broadway one day and I'm a singer. I never I'm a terrible I never liked singing. And then working with the Beach Boys, you think like, oh, you really must learn a lot. No, I get, you know, I don't sing around. I mean I do sing with them a little bit, but they were so great. So that but nine was this. Then I did a cabaret and that was the best thing in my life. I just again, I don't know how.
I was sitting there going like why did I say? Yes? What am I doing? And then and then we just I just you just have to let go fully, just you know. And then then I did nine. But and they called this said you want to I wasn't working. Do you want to go back to do you want to go to back to cabaret? Or do you want to do nine? And I'd seen I seen nine of the previews because we knew Antonio and and it wasn't great and he wasn't great and you know, and so I thought, I'll go do that because it's new, I
should stretch. And then by the time I went there was like a year later, and I said yes to it, and I went to see Antonio and he blew the roof off the place. He was incredible.
You know.
I was a previews and I go, what am I doing? I mean, you couldn't get tick And his wife was across the street and Melli Griffith do in Chicago, and the streets were packed. And then I remember driving up with this with this limbo driver and I said, what's going on? Here is the president? I said, oh, no, it's Antonio's last talking about Antonio like it was a creamy, rich, stupid look. Oh it's Antonio's last night, and I feel sorry for whoever's gonna have to replace him. Yeah, it
was like that. So it was tough. I mean it was you know, it was three hours of singing and.
It's a hard show. Definitely, But I thought you did great.
I really did.
I really enjoyed you and I and then I got to see you and Birdie too.
That was another not good one.
Well, the production was definitely a challenge, for sure.
You know, you go into these things and you go, I don't go do my best, and then you can't control.
You know, that's all you can do. That's broad glea.
So wait, what else did we do on there? We did? I did that?
And then what else did you do on this?
I was having a great time, but then all of a sudden, you know, like I was already got I don't know.
Who this time.
No, that's what happened. Storylines go, and you know, the of course like Emma and Will have their whole storyline so inevitably, like it's.
Like a different shiny object appears in the distance, like, oh, what's that? Let me that's follow that?
You know you said it. But then he but then he came back and then he'd come back around with you know, with new normal.
Like I remember he likes his people.
Yeah, he likes his people for sure.
Yeah, and then you just kind of and sometimes you just have to get in front of his face and you know, and then he remembers. Somebody is saying, but do you guys he was on your he was on the podcast.
So yeah, he's coming.
A couple of times he never really talked about the show, and I think this was like a really safe outlet for him to like talk about the show, and he said, he said the tone for us, which was really great, And we say that a lot like he really opened the doors to make these conversations acceptable because he kind
of he did it. So, yeah, we've seen him and we're you know, I think we've a lot of us have like healed our relationships with him and the experience of the show and you know, all like the things that we were went on said like kind of after and I have passed away, to be honest, and so it was actually really healing.
Was it on a zoom? Were you guys on a zoom? And after.
He started he started sort of calling us. He from like the very first moment of her having gone missing. He got in touch with us, He got in touch with us, and it sort of became I think we were also amped up emotionally that we were just sort of like gloves off, we're not you know, you know Ryan, he's intimidating and now he's like the biggest, you know, showrunner in the world, and so I think we had all just sort of been like whatever, like we've just
lost another friend. Like you you don't really intimidate us anymore. You don't scare us. And that's what he was saying to us too. He's like, he's like, nobody has anything to lose by like opening up and being honest with me. And I think when you were the raw emotionally, you have to just get it all out. And luckily there's someone on the other end of the line who's open to receiving that and hearing it and accepting all of that.
And that was sort of what was happening. And I don't know, it was weird that it happened during then, you know, during that time, but it just did. And yeah, and it felt good. We all had conversations with each other amongst ourselves additions to just him, and it.
Was it was it was it one on one.
You're saying like it was one on one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He would call and talk to people and like we really done. A lot of us hadn't spoken to him in a really long time, so it was really nice to like, and I think a lot of us were waiting for him to open the door, to be honest, and I think he was kind of not really privy to it, not really understanding like some of the pain that we had felt and were like holding on to.
So that's good to hear. So so you guys, when I was the second year, everything just kind of slid it. What did it? Well? Then Corey died? Right when did he die?
The season four before?
Right before season four? Then you came back after that though, didn't you? Were you up until the tail before he just passed away?
It was before?
It was right before because did.
He pass away? He passed away during the hiatus right.
Yeah, between three and four, and we pushed for season four like two weeks or three weeks into we were supposed to start, like it happened like right before we were supposed to start.
How was Ryan then? Was he arounded the corona?
That was a very complicated Yeah.
Well, he also said on the podcast too, like he he like he felt like a lot of responsibility that he didn't know how to handle it. But he I think he felt very deeply when Corey passed away, and sure that was really hard for him, and so I think he kind of like everybody like just went inward like we went away right, And he said he would have stopped the show at the point when Corey passed away, had we all done it again. And we and we
I mean me as a collective. I felt like the show died when Corey died.
Yeah, and did I mean we could feel that. And it was like a lot of people when you are going back to the same places every single day and are constantly reminded of this gigantic personality, you know that you that you shared all of those experiences with in those places, regardless if it was us, any of the cast, the writers, all of those buildings and rooms were filled with him, and so yeah, it's sort of you're re immersing yourself in this like for lack of a better word,
trauma of constant being reminded of this person that is no longer there.
Well, they had a memorial in the auditorium where our stage was, and that was really hard for me personally, Like we had that memorial and then we just had to go back to like being there and being okay with it, and that was really hard and weird.
There was only a handful of you that people that like tanity, that knew what you guys went through, right, no one else on the planet. And then you lost one of your soldiers then and was Leah was She's dating him when were they and so that affected her and then.
Oh yeah, yeah, you had been part of a cast, a young cast, and a cast that became really successful. Like like what did that mean to you to like we all had each other right to lean on through thick and thin, the good and the bad, and that has to this day. I think why we are all still so close and like from your experience, has that been the case for you guys? Like is that why you've all been you know, you're still friends, still close.
And with the full house?
Yeah, like you've been through this such a specific time and experience together that like who else is able to relate to that other than and then yeah, we still might have that ahead of us.
Yeah, did you guys? Are we talking about this ship the Glee coming back? I think there was moments there there.
I mean, I don't know, let's announce it today.
I don't care if it's happening or not.
Carls back.
Yeah, Well, I just love how like you were like, let's fire the Olsen Twins. That that was like my news like in my news speed the other day, I was I was giggling.
I've said that over the years, a couple of times nobody ever paid attention. But for some reason this time we were we were abnormal. It still are. I mean, we were too close. It was just a weird thing. And it wasn't because you know, the full House was successful what not the first year or two, but it wasn't like you guys, wasn't a meteorite rise. And then you know, every year since the show's been off, it's
it becomes bigger and bigger and bigger. I never thought I thought we all done, it was gonna be done. I never thought I'd have to think about it again. But we just we just clicked. Bob and I hated each other at the beginning. We didn't get along at allow a good amount of time. We didn't hate each other, but he was His process was so different than mine. I came, you know, as an actor, so I wanted to make the scenes better and work on the you know,
the motion of the show. And he just wanted to do dirty jokes and make the guy pulling the cable laugh. I put that into the show and it was fun for a while, but it was also very just distracting, and it was disruptive to everyone else's process. We eventually, you know, obviously we worked it out, but we didn't really I'm close, until after the show was done, and he was very instrumental in keeping us all together. You know, he was excuse me, the twins moved to New York
and bought me. I think they owned New York now literally, And you know, I got to tell you too, that the one of the only good things to come out of Bob Well did make it Ashley, and we hadn't really seen him much. I mean, we stay in touch
with a little bit, but Bob really did. And they were so great and they just said all the things again like probably what you guys got to hear, Like, you know, it was we loved it because you'd hear rulers or you'd say, well they hated their child, they hated being on the show or whatever, and were just like okay. And then when I did Fuller House, they didn't want to come back, and I was angry for a minute, and you know that got out and so we never really but they were they just we love you,
we loved our childhood, We love being with you. We missed Bob. They came out of my house, they came to my house and they brought a pork chop and sage. I don't know why, but thank you.
That sounds good. That sounds like on brand.
Those parts, the frozen pork chopping. So that was really nice. And so we stayed. We stayed very close. But but you guys, I think it was a little different because you were all pretty much unknown and then the biggest stars in the world. Now, let's talk about our trip to Disney.
Do you remember, yes, of course, you relationship with Disney.
You're a Disney, Disney number one fan, you are Disney.
Well, yeah, you know what. I wanted to shake that before I met my wife, but she worse. She's worse than me. And even before that, I was like, i gotta drop this Disney stuff. And I'm trying to be a serious actor. I'm trying to think. And I was out to dinner with some people and Ryank Gostlin was there. I was sitting next to me and he's like, uh, you're a big Disney guy, right, I go, yeah, I enough, I goes, I love it. I go all the time. I got mixtapes for each ride, and I walked and
sometimes I go high. I did it. I go really yeah. So that's was like, okay, I can Yeah, I'm a Disney again. It didn't hurt his career. And my wife was so into it. I was like, okay, I was.
Out, You're back in now.
But we were planning, we planned it, and then I think Chris was going to go with us, right Andy, and it was it was raining.
Well, no, we didn't plan we didn't plan that, but we're like, we're still going one day it rained.
Right, that's right. I mean it was touring. But it was so fun.
Wasn't it so much fun? So great because it was it was a bit of a ship show in the weather department, but that made it so memorable and I just couldn't believe that. Yeah, you took us all around.
It was incredible, so much fun. I remember it was kind of like quiet too because there was so much rain, so like it wasn't as busy as it normally would be, which is nice.
I have really cute pictures of us and rain gears. Do you guys have this pictures?
Somebody sent me those.
I have them.
We got we got our pickles. Oh, wasn't it I doubt.
Wasn't it one of the guys in Bye Bye Bertie? But were you Kevin? Were you out then?
I mean not like publicly, but you know to like our co workers and friends.
Yes, do you remember what year that was, Kevin? It must have been twelve eleven or twelve.
Eleven or twelve.
Yeah, all right, I'll look for him.
I have pictures, but you out. I don't think I did.
I probably not. I probably hadn't.
No, but you remember the little guy who came with us from from by by Bertie.
I'm trying there who was with us?
And I thought maybe you guys Marco?
Didn't Marco come? Marco my boyfriend at the time, Yeah.
He did know, but there's somebody else that came with us, and I'm trying to remember who it was. It was my friend.
I had to come to Jesus with Marco before. I was like, look, you need to bring it in.
If you're going to come to Disneyland.
We are not friends with Stas play it cools.
Who just shut up? That's my club? Right?
How's it going?
This is the guy that wrote all the music, he didn't write he knows, we just about knows. This is the great Mike Cloud.
How's it going? Nice to meet you.
It's so nice to meet you.
Oh, it's nice to meet you.
It's honor.
These are our gleek They're on Glee when I was on there. He doesn't joke. Everything he doesn't joke. Sometimes we do Surfer Girl and I said, Mike dedicates all the ladies in the audience, and he says, okay, all the ladies from John the beverage screams, I said, and a couple of the guys too, And he said that a couple of.
So did a couple of episodes of Glee.
Dude, that sounds about right, fair enough, fair.
Yeah, he wrote, he wrote, I get around, fun, fun, fun.
Yeah. These songs nobody's ever heard of.
I'm a big I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan.
Coca crazy.
Wow.
It is an honor to meet you. You are absolute legend. Yes, well that makes no no more talented than the rest of us all combines.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm in the mount rushmore of rock.
Shouldn't. He's one of the greatest. Is this bad?
He's very boy.
I've been hanging around him since eight nineteen eighty five.
He was Blacky on General Hospital.
The first show was the first show he invited me to sort of play a bunch of the show was in Washington, DC at eighty five for a.
Million, well three quarters of million.
Yeah, but in Philadelphia, And.
That's cool, that's wild, absolutely insane, that's this history.
Yeah, I mean, how did that happen?
You should have seen the line of the bathroom.
People were probably just going where they could.
Is he's responsibly they weren't the pins. He's responsible for some of the most optimistic, beautiful music that you know, when they wrote it the sixties was powerful and a mental wouldn't be nice. But now when I play with them and I see these audience, they just they're just you know, d C is at an all time low and discord at an all time high. But I thank god we have the Beach Boys music to get us through.
Truly very true.
I need it so bad. Wouldn't it be nice? Optimism? Positivity?
There's not a lot of hit songs that are optimistic like that. Yeah, and through the test of time, Like, there's a reason why those songs are still gigantic today because people need them. That's part of the public consciousness now is those songs.
Researcher in Sheffield, England that went through hundreds of songs and they said the Good Vibrations came in number one for making people feel good.
Wow, appropriately, wasn't it.
Yeah right, Oh, I listened to your music on the regular, just so you know. I'm sure you heard that a lot.
But daughter was pregnant. She played Gary Nose every day. Yeah, that lyric was maybe. I mean, I always love it is not a good first line from nor.
I didn't write that bar and people use it their wedding, so.
I know we were just talking about that their divorce.
I guess.
We did. That was our first dance, my first thing.
Oh my, that's great. That's so great. Oh my goodness.
Well, it's nice to meet you all.
And I will butt out you're good. We're going to come see you at the ball.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Yeah, that's great. That's great.
Nice, that's right.
Monday and Tuesday I.
Will be front row. I'll have your name written on my chest, you know, I'll be that guy. Nice to meet you, Mike.
I wow, I told you guys this book. If you would have told me, it's called if you would have told them, if you would have told me. My first concert, I went to the Beach at the Universal Theaters thirteen fourteen, told me that, you know, I'd be here playing with them four weeks later. I don't know about you, guys, but I've just turned into pure gratitude and grace. At this point. We just look back. Yes, we're so lucky.
I mean, we made it out of we're still around, first of all, a hundred of millions of people that want to do what we got to do. Man, we just look back and go, oh, I'm so grateful. I'm so I've got a healthy son, and you guys are doing great, and you've are happy with your partner, and you have a great new daughter, and you jump on a trampoline every day.
You know, I don't know the trampoline, So that I can, so that I can live as long and look as good as you at.
That age, nobody can, nobody will do that.
No, it's just a goal. It's just a goal. No, tell us about your book though, honestly, that's awesome. It's congrats and like peybody should.
Have a book it. Yes, I have stories for days because you're so universally loved by everyone, so everyone wants to talk to you. I'm sure you have friends all over the world. Yeah, tell us about this book.
Well, it's just that I always said no. And there's some offers that came around once in a while and be like, I'm not gonna talk about who I slept with the I'm not going to I'm not that interesting. What do I have to talk about, you know? And then then Bob died and they came around again, and I just think about fatherhood and a lot of people were dying and I thought, you know, I want to
pay tribute to them, and I have beautiful parents. And then as I'm writing it, I just go, I forgot about this for about that, you know, And so there are some pretty interesting stories, but it's just about I just I just have had such a wonderful life and not all it's been perfect, and I've made a lot of mistakes, and you know, I've learned from that. I really trying to find all the things that were relatable to other people I've.
Cheated on.
I was that bullies and I was bullied a lot in school, so that kind of thing, and I got to clear with the Beach boys.
That's so great. I can't wait to read the book. I'm very excited.
When is it coming out?
October? October twenty Yes.
You're going to do it.
You have to go do a book tour.
Not very little.
No, that's really exciting though. It's very It must be. It must have been like therapeutic in some way to like, yeah, cathartic as well.
Well.
I hope we get to work together again at some point.
I wait, on your show, you get to work with Jesselyn. You get to work with Jesslyn, and you get to work with Kayala, my girl, Kala.
Everybody, let's zoom again, three of us.
Sometimes No, for sure, let's do it. Thanks for doing this. We really do appreciate it.
Yeah, you know that. I was very nervous coming into that show, and just because you know, well some of the things you talked about. But the two of you were so kind to me and all the way through and we stayed in touch, you know, more Jed than Kevin. And that's why I'm going to reveal its the internet thing. I'd like Jenna better, but because Kevin sort of ignored me after he went gay and that was it.
You know, I knew I had a chance. I was like, never mind.
But I'm proud of you man, and you're fighting. I try to help you where I can on the social media stuff and Jenna, I just love you, love you, love you, love you person.
Thank you have a great yes, and make sure everyone goes to pre orders your book, that book. I love you John, John, You're the best of you.
Kevin. Do you believe that we had a beach boy and John Stamos in one one interview?
No, Like my face hurts from smiling. I got goosebumps. I was sweating to meet someone who has like the two of them together. They're star power combined.
You really like in the in the presence of greatness.
Truly, we just talked to a beach boy. I don't know, I I.
And also we got invited to with the Beach Boys concert. I'm holding John to that.
Oh yeah, we're going all three dates. By the way, you better have a babysitter.
We're definitely going. Oh I'm leaving my husband at home. Great, he's watching the baby.
Work cod Kean Austin can watch the kid. Great, We're going to the concert. Thank you, John, Thank you for being so just per usual, open and honest.
Just a good human. Like sometimes I know like he's he's so famous, he's like the Mecca of famous. But like look at the kind like appreciative, generous man that he is like with just his big, big heart. So I mean, he's the type of famous and he likes me more Kevin he does.
And I because he has good taste. I understand people come up to him everywhere he goes all day, every day and to still be that nice, that nice is just truly a wonder to see and can't believe we get to call him our friend. So thank you John for that hope you enjoyed. We will see you next time.
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