It’s Brittany S. Pierce (w/ Heather Morris)

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We have one of our BFFs on. We got to chat with the one and only Heather Morris. Brittany as Pierce Hemo is in the building. And um, the beautiful thing about Heather is that, like I think the women on the show, you are all very good at expressing yourselves openly and being direct. And I think you taught all of us males, you know, how to speak up for ourselves. Oh that's amazing. And Heather, I had an amazing story on the show how she had a baby

during it she was doing a lot more than everybody else. Yeah, she she was, she was doing she was extra, as she would say she would being extra at that time. Um, in the best way possible. And also we all learned, I think, on the show from each other, within the women as well, how to speak up for ourselves. And you know, we get into this in the episode with Heather. But coming from a dance background, you kind of like shut your mouth, put your head down, and do the work.

So this is a different experience for her as well, and how she evolved through the show. So I'm excited for you guys to hear I also learned a lot. There were lots of things I didn't know even being around her every day. So I'm excited for all of you to hear it. So let's get to it. Let's stop talking to listen to Heather. Hi Emo, Hey, welcome back. I just listened to Chris's episode prior to this. I

loved it. I was we were walking, We're living the neighborhood walking Taylor and I and I was listening and I was like, that's cackling to myself, isn't either be? I love him. It's very sweet. It's very I think it's sweet. It's also nice to see someone that we've known since they were eighteen blossom into the force that that he is today, justa bestseller. He was always there, he just had to grow in exactly. Yes, Chris was always there, you know, that was his destiny from day one,

always a force. So how there. I'd like to start this episode by sharing with you the thesis of this podcast, just to set the tone. The tone is um. What Lady Murphy had said earlier in his episode was that there's a difference between what Glee did to us and did for us. H that's the thesis that Ron new podcast. So do what you want with that. Yeah, it's worth We're watching the Ted Kittency Uni Bomber Show right now, Taylor.

We've been to that yesterday. That's what we did on our time without our children bend watching the Uni Bomber Show, and one of the episodes said, Kazynski gets forced into this like this like social experiment where they're basically testing like the Soviet spies UM ways on these Harvard law students, of these Harvard students. I don't know if you've heard about this, but he was basically like brainwashed, and he was so intelligent that like he wouldn't let them break him.

So they were trying to make him feel like he was crazy for having these eccentric ideas about about UM technology and how we're you know, as in a society like really social and all these ideas that he like essentially was coming up. At the same time, they like brainwashed him try and make him think he was crazy and he wouldn't let it break him. He was like, I'm not crazy, I'm not crazy. Essentially, it forced him

to do what he was gonna do. And anyways, anyways, all this aside, Yeah, I mean speaking of is that how you felt during what a crazy social experience as much as everyone trying to break you and convince you I did break, I did break. We all broke. Kevin was the last to break. But we were talking about that too, How we all we all broke? When when

did you break? Heather? Okay, what a question. I'll never forget to the day when we were sitting on a golf cart and I I was in my deepest of darkest and Nia go, Nia looks to Kevin and she goes. She just stopped talking all together. She just didn't talk to anybody. And I was like, I don't you're right, I don't want to speak a word. I don't speak out. Well, I'll never forget that day. She took it too. She took it to the real level it should have been

taken to. Yeah, she always did. She was the one that could get through. She was like a translator for a lot of us. She can read us and be like, oh, this is what's going on. Yeah, she was like our puppeteer, I mean speaking of I was going to get to this, but we may as well just like get into it if you don't, right, if you we were, we were, we're like it like it's like burning now where you're like to step out for a second a minute, Yeah, you need to sit on the ledge. That's where we're

at already. UM. I love this with you guys. I love doing this. We love you, we love having you. The tour was pretty crazy for all of us women. I think, Um Kevin's memory served is very good about out how like all the girls like locked themselves in the dressing room at one point and was like I

want to go home. Like I felt that way for sure. UM, but I'll never forget you shared a story with me and if you're open to sharing it, um, Like you had kind of come to a breaking point on tour and you you had said to me like now I was the only person who really confronted you about it and and was like I'm worried about you. You You were like are you okay? UM, And I'm just curious if you if you would be comfortable to share sharing that story.

Oh absolutely, so yeah, I just like when I started the show, essentially, I just had I mean there's so much backstory to all this. Obviously we know, but like we can go back, go back, we can go back and go back, We'll go back. But we were in it. We were in it. I just had a really unhealthy work habit that I had tried to keep up for so long. Um just basically because I had not had to work hard for this show. I got this job

just out of thin air, essentially. I mean, yeah, I had put in the work as a dancer, but you know, people in mind an audition for the show, I just got it. So I felt like I had to keep that up. And people pleased the whole time. And I was just pushing and pushing and pushing. And when we started the the tour, I had developed an eating disorder disorder, I stopped getting my period. I was so in my head about food and what it was doing for me. And obviously this is just a manifestation of what my

body was really going through in my mind. But I just was unhealthy. I looked at all food is bad, and um, I was in a really bad place. I just didn't know it yet, and I remember being in the dressing room, like getting myself ready. I had just walked into the the food hall with everybody looked at the food as I did every single time, and I was like, I just don't think I want that today, you know, stared at it like I did every single time.

I'm sure everybody was noticing. And I went back in the dressing room and Nyawa done and she was like I can't remember exactly what she was saying, but she was approaching me about my eating disorder because I know she herself had had beating disorders and she was very open about it in her book, and so she of course was the first to speak up about it and just say like, you know, I don't know what's going on with you, but I feel like, you know, something

is happening, and just was trying to be there in a way, and I just completely blew it off like no, I'm fine, a person fine. So there was nothing else after that, There was nothing to be spoken about. But she probably got the hand like, oh, okay, well if she doesn't want to talk about it, she's not ready for this conversation totally totally, and that's who she was. She was just always ready to pass about it and

that's all. Yeah, we're all like that now. It just takes that that time and place in your life where you realize, like there life too short. Yeah, you can't be scared to address the hard things. You just have to do with the people you care about. Yeah, yeah, exactly,

Like what's the worst is going to happen? Like I'll I'll be I'll take the risk of pissing you off for asking the questions that I feel need to be asked inappropriate when that comes with age too and maturity, right, Like for somebody like me who doesn't like confrontation or like to rock the boat at all, You know that it feels like it's like a pot star versus like

actually being a solution. But now you see it. I see it as like a solution and like not trying to stir the pot and like dance around like people talking like what's going on with Heather, what's going on? Versus like somebody like not going like I'm just gonna ask her what's going on and if she's okay, you know, yeah, which should have been the solution the entire time. We're going to be really honest. It's like, that's what number ones do you know? Like the high ups. It's like, yeah, yeah,

you just got to talk about your leaders. Yeah, your leaders. And that's what we do when we're when we have adult twenty year old or twenty twenty cast members who are adults who are all always in this thing together, right right, But we were children. Yeah, well no, I mean that that would come up like you guys are all kids. I'm like, which, no, we're twenty three years old,

just like children. That's such an interesting thing because so many people like we were kids in the sense that like a lot of people don't hit the height of their career until later in life, right until they've put in like the time as an adult versus us who we all did. Actually, most of us put in a lot of time previous to Gale that people don't know about. And then you're an overnight sensation. You're like, actually, no, like all these people you've seen somewhere else before this. Yeah,

yeah yeah. And of course when you're twenty three year not adult, so they our brains were not fully developed. We're also the youngest cast vers it was like easier for them to group us all together like the kids. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. So well that's it. Let's talk about Beyonce. So you came in to do the show. I mean, I know we've told this story a lot, but let's let's just retell it. Um. Tell us how you got, how how you joined Lee, how you got how Bernie

Spears came to be like share the story with us. Okay, Well, so I was prior to coming to teach you guys, I had gone on to work with Beyonce um for the Beyonce experience, and then took a big break from that. Then she came back and she came out with her big single ladies head and I had to reudition for that, and I had to reudition for Beyonce. I had done her tour and then we were done with the tour. There was like ten girls, four guys. It is all finished.

And then you know, we had a big, huge break. Go do your other jobs, Go get another pizza job, and try and live your life somehow the money that you don't have. And then I had to go re audition for this huge like single ladies tour ish thing that was happening. Wild. Yeah, it's just wild. We had to go on an audition with everybody else. Um, which is fine, you know you do that thing, and she got it. You do it, got it, got it, did it?

She still got it? It still did it. Um. And so simultaneously at the same time, I decided I was going to be this actress now, like I wanted to be a star in my whole life. So I wrote to my agents and I was like, thank you so much for the opportunity, but right now, and I took a break. I'm going to focus on acting and I was going to like to just acting school quote unquote and um, which was essentially just like a cult. Now that I was that it was basically a cult. How

they're moreish joins cult. That's the headlines of this week. Um. So yeah, So I started that whole journey of like I'm going to be this actress. And um, Zach Woodley he was my biggest champion at the time. I knew that and I had assisted him doing Fired Up, which was a cheerleading movie. Um. And he came to me and he was like, Hey, I have a great opportunity. I want you to teach the single ladies dance to some some actors who are doing it in one of

their episodes of the show. And also they're kind of looking for dancers because all these kids are seniors and actors, they don't really have anybody who can move on the show. Um and just kind of be like background fillers. Essentially. I was like, Okay, great, I'll wear my best outfit, gonna wear my coolest jams there. Um, So I was gonna go teach that day. And I don't I think you guys might know this story in a roundabout way, but the day of my audition, UM, I was driving

in my Prius on the way to the audition. I had just turned around the corner to the Paramount lot, and in this point in my life, I was like battling with ibs right Like I had really sensitive stomach. I always have, I just didn't know about it at the time. And I just had guzzled a coffee because I was like, I gotta have energy. I'm good, I'm ready for this. Heather turned to the corner. This is right before I walk in to meet you guys and Ryan Murphy. Um, I turned the corner and I'm thinking

I'm gonna fart. I let out a fart and it's not a part. I sharted my pants on Gower and what's the other cross road is it? Melrose? I was on Gower and Melrose and I was just doing left, and I had started my pants and I was about to enter the paramount lot for the very time. To teach you guys Hollywood glamour at its fineness. I was in my American apparel maroon on maroon onesie. I remember this. It was that, yes, you didn't know. We didn't know. Times before. I had just shipped my pants and I

had to get there in like ten minutes. So I pulled into the neighborhood right across the street. I don't even have to take off my onesie. I take off my underwork inside my onesie like I pull it through my leg, I b I roll it in a ball, I throw it out the window. I check if I'm fine. I don't like there's no stink coming from me. I'm good. I'm not going to give away that I just shipped my pants. It's also like a really like boogie neighborhood

Hancock Park, like stop, I'm dead. She didn't even blame It was an early Christmas president for some mane walking by walking their dog, and then I walked in the fair amount and I continued to teach you guys the single ladies, and you did teach us single ladies. I can't remember how long you taught us single ladies for, do you remember. I wouldn't say it was a total of two or three. I couldn't imagine it would be

more though longer. I don't know. Maybe you were around the weren't you, like before we had started shooting the new episodes the actual season, Like you were around when we were always in the tin shed rehearsing, and then you guys were in the tin shed rehearsing. And then I remember, like then you Zach brought you around to meet all of us, like immediately, um, and then we're all just hanging out. But then when did it? Was?

It like, oh, she's going to stick around, so I had I can't remember exact timelines because I know I had been teaching you guys that and then after I believe it was the same day after I was teaching you guys, I was supposed to go read for Ryan Murphy. I was given I was given the quinsides, and I was supposed to go to the Bungalow and just read

for him, like what And it happened twice. Two times he asked me to read for him because I had met him with with Zach, you know, once we were done rehearsing, he was like, yeah, I'd love to have you. And both times he canceled on me for this read. And I don't know what solidified it. Maybe he knew about just start Glory like you're Halo was like enough that he was like, great, just caster like she had do it twice. Don't even audition for this show. You

don't even audition. That's how he knew, Kevin. That's how he talked to Frank Gatsen. Yeah, so I never I never went to Reform just like which lucky enough because if I would have read, he probably would not hire.

Now that is not true. That is not true. You never know tell us about Remind me about Brittany us peers, because like I remember you doing Brittany like for all of us in the choir room and like the lip sinking um and would make us all like laugh, it's a really bite and you were like expanding on it every choir room scene like for us in between My biggest champions guys, and it was so fun. And then Ryan Murphy would walk in and my heart would stop

and I'd be like, oh my God. And then you guys would talk to him and you would then, you know, somehow, I don't know, convincing that he needed to stay and listen to my were like one day we were like, enough is enough, he needs to see I got to talk about this. We gotta talk about this. And I don't even think I did much. I was just doing like the finger in the air and I'm like, huh,

and that was it. I don't even think real people knew about this part of Brittany as hears wow right, because it was just between us, was that Brittany was toned deaf. And then it turned out that Sugar Motto was actually telling that bless I remember Ryan's cackle when you would do it though, he had that loud cackle that you would hear like I love it. Do you remember too. Wasn't it that same day then that you guys had a scene I think it was you and nia Are you Bane and Niad a scene in the

Mr Shoes Spanish? It was an office or something. It was one of the teachers yet and then Ryan started feeding you lines because it was right after we forced you to perform as Brittany for him, and then it was like after that, then all of a sudden, like the next scripts from here and out, it's just here. She is. She the full fully fledged, full fledged character, and it's them the best comedy on the entire show,

Thank you, Thank you. It was a mixture of nerves and my love for mean girls Karen because she was so genius. Oh my deliver that loved It makes so much sense Karen for mean girls, is this is who she's going to be. Oh my gosh, wow, I know now. Now you hear it, now you feel it. I do.

I don't think. Okay, my mind is blown. What's interesting that I never thought about and didn't even think to ask you back then, was that sense of responsibility or like overcompensating for not having auditioned, because I know what that feels like if you get offered something, You're like, I didn't earn this. I got to make sure that I make it worth a while that they hired me, that they have me. Did that start sort of immediately or was it something that was sort of like probably

subconsciously building as the years went on. Well, I think Jenna, when when you had reached out to me and and we're kind of approaching me about this this podcast in general, you were like, you know, we really want to dive into the fact that, like you're a when you're a dancer and you're working as a dancer, your job is to show up, shut up, and do your job. And

that's who I was. That's who I was every moment that I walked like into a job as a dancer, um, And that's kind of what we're bred to do, is like you show up, you work your ass off, you keep quiet, and you do your job. Um. And so I had already had that like worth, that work ethic within me to just like show up and do it. Don't ask questions, do everything you're asked. You know, you're there to do what you need to do, and then you're done. And so like that's who I was going

into it. And then I also had just been handed this beautiful lat warm on the show that just blew me away. When I watched the pilot, it was just like incredible, and I knew the show was special. And so when we were going into this stuff into all these rehearsals and then starting shooting. I just I couldn't blow it. I couldn't say no. I couldn't. I couldn't blow that, you know. And I didn't even know I I didn't even know I could have the voice to do that because right, like I said, like I just

was a dancer, and that's not what you do. You don't speak up for yourself, you don't, cause Marcus right, right, and we saw that it was like very you were always so professional, um and like obviously watching like what you said, because I remember you being very respectful, like we because we were all a bit more comfortable with one another, and we had done the pilot, so we had this sort of and you know, bond and we would talk shit or gossip with one another, and you

were really good about not participating in sort of like that well, which was also intimiding too for me, because I felt like you guys had this you guys had this this circle in this friendship that you established previously, and it felt like I don't know about Naya, but it felt like for me, we were these outsiders, right like you guys had established this fleet club and we weren't so like I always I always loved what you guys had. I always loved that you guys were like

outspoken and could do that. Um, I just didn't feel like I had the privilege to do that, you know. I felt like a little I don't know, a little like Kitty in the corner of science experiment the sweet funny, this sweet money. And then and then we all went to the school NIA and she taught us how to speak up for ourselves. And then Nia, I mean it's also she was the one who has been working, like working in TV longer than any of us. She was

doing Barbie longer than Yeah. But honestly, I will say, even if in the in this like speaking up thing that we're talking about that other people probably don't really know what we're saying, it's like the chance to complain in some respect, right, or the chance to say no,

I don't want to do that. Um, it's just not It's not like you're not bread to do that as an artist because or an actor, because you should be lucky to get your have the job you have, right, you don't know when your break is going to come on. When it does, you don't really exactly millions of other people you just shot right. But on our set, I will say even the people who did know how to respectfully speak up for themselves a ka rivera. Yes, everybody who most people who did in the show also did

their damn job. And well that's the thing. Like, it was like the expectation for our show because we were, um, there were so many eyes on. It was you show up, you do your job as best as possible, you do the best you positive, you do better than you think you can um, and then you expect that from the rest from everybody else. And I think that was also the pressure of like everybody else better show up because you're showing up, right. That's the way I kind of felt.

I was like, I'm doing my job. Everybody else should do their job. When it takes everybody, when there's so many moving parts, there's eighty of us have seen it's like everyone's got to show up to make this thing. Everybody has to be on the same page. Otherwise it's like, right, okay, But even I mean, like even I remember there's this funny story though, Um, we were doing Rocky Horror and

it was really late. It was like one thirty in the morning and we were in those horrible wigs for like the whole and out of trees, and like how they're sitting on the floor in between takes and it's really late, and I just see, like how there's eyes like start to well up a little bit. And I turned to Kevin and I'm like, how there seems unwealth and I mean all of us were not well at that moment. And I turned to Kevin and he's like, you know when Heather's will and you know she's upset,

you know it's bad. That is true. I did used to say that all the time. How there was like the marker for if. Then you're like, okay, I think it's okay now to be like justify she was like I was bar you were talking. You gotta you gotta understand, Like I so, So I come from like my parents work habits were I had a dad who like threw himself into work. He went four am to nine pm every single day. He built his company from the ground up,

and it was a very unhealthy work habit. This is just kind of how I've justified how I grew into that habit. He was just work all day, all night, always work. And then we took these special family vacations for a week long, and he dove hard into that, loved us, and then went back to work and was like, you know this, this just provider, right. But he was always like just the hardest worker that I knew. And I had a mom who was like, just stay at home.

She she's very she's very hermit like, she didn't like to go out, she doesn't like to do stuff. And so I have these like two opposing sides to who I am. And I felt like that really happened to me within this show. It was like, I worked so damn hard on this show, and I had such a strong work habit, and then one day it was just gone and I just had no motivation. I think I just pushed myself to that break of not being able to sustain. It's unsustainable when you try and do that.

I mean, we we all know. We were working sixteen hour days, twenty two episodes hour long. It was a really hard show to work on. And I always it's hard to explain that to people because you should be lucky. You just don't know until you're there. You don't know when you're there. Yeah, I've gone on sets that are musicals and they're only shooting ten episodes in their thirty minutes, and I'm like and they're freaking out and they're like, I'm so tired, Like yeah, it's up to a set before,

Like I'm so sorry, this is taking so long. It's like, you guys, this is like nothing, are you kidding me? This is beautiful? Um. Speaking of that, it also reminds me of a time when, like the when when you're a character, when Britney Spierre started to really explode um, and people really started to learn who you were. We were seeing you on like the cover of magazines, like you also got more famous than I think you would

ever had ever expected or asked for. And it was kind of like, in a way like watching another Chris of sorts, like where that's not the part that you that you wanted or asked for, and yet I know how grateful you were to your fans and still are. So there's this like conflicting feeling of like wanting your personal life because you are so private and you do keep to yourself kind of like your mom like, and then you know there's this whole other side of you

that had worked so hard for so long. So um, I remember when you kind of like moved out and moved away and was like, I'm just going to open a coffee shop and get the hell out of here. But can you talk about that, like kind of like your rise to this crazy amount of fame that you you didn't expect. Yeah, it was a wild ride, and I think I wanted it super hard and I pushed for it, and I didn't know what I was pushing for.

I didn't know what the end product was. I mean, I could be assuming, but I always felt like you guys kind of knew what what um, what it was to promote things, what it was to do press, what it was to do interviews. I had never been in the front and forefront. I was always in the background, So I didn't know what any of that meant. And I thought I did, so I thought I was ready for it all like, and I just wasn't. You. I had done limited acting, I had not had any like

trust training. I didn't know what any of that was. So when I got when I went into it knowingly and willingly, it was like very overwhelming and I was very excited. But then I did get the attention that I had just put the hard work in for and it scared the ship at I was like, yeah, I don't I don't want to be look, I don't want to be approached. I want to sit at the table and not have people stare at me like all that.

And it was that it was at a breaking point between like you know, the life and Style magazines and then and then into like social media and reality, and so it was kind of like transitioning, um. And I definitely could have I could have been more graceful with that and gone with that that whole ride of like now we are real people and we can show you. Um, but I you know what, you guys knew. I wasn't into social media at the time. I was like, I just want to work and I want to show that

I'm I'm still working all that aside, um. And so the way I see it is, I just I had put all my bags and all my bags, all my eggs into this glee basket and now it was just getting too heavy and I just wasn't happy anymore. And um, you know, Taylor and I out of the blue, who got pregnant and it wasn't planned, And I felt like it was the most beautiful gift that I could have been given in the world. Um and I definitely took all those eggs and I threw them in a parent basket.

And since then, obviously I've learned balance. It was just at that point it felt like it was something I needed. It was like the perfect thing for my heart at that time, because I just didn't know. I also, you guys, I didn't start going to therapy until three years ago, like right around when I had died, so I didn't know all these things that were wrong with me. I didn't know that I was hurting. And that's why I stop talking to show um so and you guys could

see stuff like that. It's just like, we know it's hard. It's I always teach my kids at the convention weekends because I teach you hands. I'm like, it's really hard to be the person that sits down and tells your friend that you're worried about that. It's really difficult and you just gotta sometimes you gotta get uncomfortable to be comfortable.

But I'm such a big advocate for therapy because I'm like, even if you're not going to medicate yourself, at least just like understanding it to know yourself a little bit better totally. It makes you have to pause because I think when we were doing that, or you're or someone that works a lot, you are just concerned with that. So all these things just build up, they accumulate, and then you're left with this whole, like you said, all these eggs that you sort of have to sort through.

At some point, they don't go anywhere. They're all still there. You just move them to the basket. Yeah, and then at some point you have to allow yourself carve out. At some point, let me figure this out, because if you don't, then it comes out in other ways, right Ye, speaking of being pregnant on the show, So like I can't even imagine. I was like I had a good pregnancy,

Like I was very lucky. But like imagining going back and doing what you did while you were pregnant, I'm like in shock, and I'm just curious because it feels like a fever dream to me when you were pregnant, because I remember like doing Nationals on like speed and being like there's like eight months pregnant. Um, what that experience was like for you Because we were younger and you were the first of us to go through that like,

what was that like? Was it was it lonely? Did you feel like we understood what you were what you were dealing with, or what was your experience? It was actually interesting because um Penny, the camera operator, the camera assistant, she had a sense like she kind of knew and that's also new. She could see it women and women

she knew. She just had a feeling, and so it definitely felt isolating, and I don't know, it was interesting, but I also was excited and like it was the first time, and obviously had no idea what I was doing to know how to eat. I didn't know how to take care of myself. Like I said, I wasn't expecting it. I didn't know I was about to get pregnant, so I didn't have my plan. I didn't get ready for it. I was just like, well, here I am, I'm pregnant. I don't even think I found out till

I was like almost out of my first trimester. Like do you remember when I turned I was I had this like weird witchy thing and I was like, I think somebody's pregnant and you and I didn't realize it at the time. Obviously, in hindsight, I put it together, but you're like, yeah, You're like, I just have a feeling. I think somebody's I don't know who it is. And you face whips around so fast. It was like, why why do you think that? I'm like, I don't know.

I'm like, do you think that too? If its like, I don't know how you don't think it was like that week or something that you thought maybe you were pregnant. I forgot what it was when there was some time you think like you had just found out or you were about to find out. Oh my god, oh my god. I look back and I'm like, how would if they have written me in pregnant? Because I had to fight to get out of there. I was like, I to stay on the show pregnant pregnant, especially all the hard

work we do. Well you did it for a long while, and I remember being in heels in your back and I just felt so bad. I just remember doing cart wheels on Spice Girls, and I'll never forget that pregnant. There was a tiny little Eli on my belly doing car as a spice girl when we did drag Race. When um I was pregnant, I did like a full split and I was like one day, one day, I was gonna know mom with a minium. She did sing

for her life that show. But like, no, wait wait, first of all, you too on that show, Kevin on that show, Jenna, well, but still both of you guys, it was that hard, Like what was that? Like I say to Kevin, it was there was like before we would go out on stage, would be backstage like waiting and hanging out in the wings and like and I'd be like, I'm not nervous, and He's like, no, neither I. And it's because like when we both have bad nerves,

we both have really bad nerves. Because I was like, we don't have to sing live, Kevin, like we're lip thinking like we do on Glee all the time. Like this fills like home for us, and there's something freeing, which I wonder if you had this experience too, about it felt like we were in a mask because we're so not ourselves. It was free, like it doesn't matter

whatever who. The hardest thing about it was like the actual drag, like the costumes, it's it's it's own entity, right, like you just getting in the makeup and the and and then the boys on top of it have to wear all this padding and stuff. So it was definitely that was horrible movie. It was intense. It wasn't like I still need to understand how any of you can dance and heels. I don't get it. You did a great job. Kevin's heel broke right before he did dance

on the floor. His heel broke backstage and they're trying to like nail it back in and crazy Jenna, that was like absolutely not. I was like, excuse me, We're not nailing a heel together for him to go dance on it. I said, no, no, no, no, no. She just comes out of nowhere. There's a whole wardrobe department trying to figure out what we're gonna do. No, we're not, We're not doing that. Just went away. It was like, okay, we'll get some of your shoes. Was like, we're not

doing that. And it was really nice and it was brought me back to the Glee days of like how nice it is to have people who know you and like the end of Glee when we all learned to sort of protect each other and protect ourselves. And she just stuck her head on likes just like common sense, like you don't know. I feel together. No, that's a

big hazard. It's a no no, it's a no no. And then like I was like Kevin, like it was nice to have somebody who knew I was pregnant during that time because I wasn't can tell anybody, so at least there was somebody there that new, yeah, because I was like, I'm feeling ill today, but I don't feel great. You're an actual winner, baby, you are. They're more so at my baby shower. And I love secret more than anything.

And everybody's like Heather's away for like months and we don't know what she's doing, and we're like, come on, somebody knows what she's doing, and they're like, no, I thought I could get it. I thought I could get it out of her. Thought, what did you think it was? I thought you were doing like a Marvel done something like like because they make you sign NDAs for stuff.

So I was like, is she a Marvel cater? Like it's Star Wars because I've always broken all those India's like I it is like X Factor or any of those like I drag Race. I told everybody everything, and I was really bad at it. You're the best secret keeper. I love secrets. Congrats that's a Did you have fun doing it? I had a blast, A really fun time. The choreo team, Uh, Aaron run free. I just like

we worked so well together. She was on the mask answer, by the way, if nobody knows, I was on the mask answer and I want it and I was a scissors And that's all you have to know about it was was your head? Was your helmet heavy? It wasn't heavy. He looked heavy. It was not. They all looked really heavy. And honestly, it's really funny because it's like it's basically like a bicycle helmet and it's this contraction that has the chin strap and then there's like wires somehow that

connect to the actual thing, so it's super light. Ah. Yeah, it wasn't as bad as you think it was. It was between the Eiffel Tower or I think it was a lily, might have been a lily, and scissors, so I got to pick. Those were the three that she pitched me. Cute Eiffel Tower, which was just too big and bulky. I couldn't have danced to her. And then there was lily and she was really pretty. But like

once I saw scissors she was. And the funny part about scissors was when when she showed me the picture, like the sketch um I pictured her so different, like this is me with a d D. Heather thinking that this scissor is just gonna be like crazy. She's jumping around the stage doing jumping Jack's like, she's just like they basically an adolescent scissors, you know what I mean, and the crafty scissors. And then I have a meeting with Beth, he's the creator, and she was like, oh no, no, no,

she's super posh. She's like your hairdresser scissors. She's done magazine. She's super fancy. And I was like, oh my god, the Heather, what is wrong with two kids? So of course you went to craft teachers, crafty scissors, all the stop behind the scissors, nimate objects. This is who they are. That's great. Yeah, we had a full meeting about who

she was and what did she do. It was such a blast um And like I was saying, so, Aaron and I worked so well together, and it was actually really helpful because I was able to help him with choreography so that his assistance could then go work on the other characters and then I just felt like I got to do a little bit more because it's a really isolating experience when you go out there and do that.

You can't meet with people. You're not even allowed to hang out with people that you're working with, like the choreographers to eat their seen with you. Then other people will know if they spot them, They're like, oh my god, you work on the mass answer. She must be on the mass answer. So they're very they're very intense about it. And I'm like Kevin and Ice where they were like they tried but were sneaky. I bet they were worked

with Liz though. Yeah, yeah, we had a full We had a full chat about you and I was about to see you, Liz. I saw you a couple of weeks later. Shout out to Liz. She every show I've ever done in the UK she's been a part of somehow, this is incredible. I love her. She like has all these incredible stories, like she was there when one direction got put together and it's like BFF all of them and all this like crazy, crazy stories. I love that she's the best. I just I wish she wouldn't live

out here. Did you know you were going to win? Did you like I had zero zero clue. Wow. I was in the bottom my second episode that I was on, and I was like, okay, well this is it. You sun failed that Dancing with the Stars, You're gonna fail at the mask dancer. Like I shouldn't have been on that show anyway. I'm sorry Normany was on it. Yeah, you weren't, like the first person is a full blown petition dancer. Well that's what I mean. There's no reason why she couldn't be on it, and not to put

shade on her because she's super sweet. And I also at the time wasn't going to be like, well she's a dancer, so why is she getting ship If you're both answers, that's fine, you're both on the show right period. Yeah, it's fine, it's fine. Um, but now I got to dance next to Adam Garcia who was in Canodia Ugly, and he's like this incredible um performer. He's like amazing,

no idea, it was the whole time. I just know it was so amazing and also wild to be like dancing in a mask and trying to like win over the audience. You know, that's what you have to do. You have a big We went over the audience, not on camera, off camera, because these people are voting for you live. They liked me or not coming in being like this posh Scissors. That wasn't the game plan. Like I couldn't go in there and be the super serious Scissors because then I wouldn't gain the attention of all

these people. No, no, no, I had to be like fun and exciting, you know, wave to little people like a Disney character on a Disney World. Oh my gosh, that's right, putting on stage. Just let her do what she wants to do. Like, I've hardly seen a performer who is as hypnotizing as you. Like you think it was such a privilege, and I told you this time, like it's such a gift to be able to watch

you perform. You It's unreal. We were watching Showmance the other day and Bust your Windows came on, little Bust your Windows. There's something about the way you dance that focus. We'd always watch like slave for you on tour. We'd all like stop, We'd gotta watch. I gotta watch. It's unbelievable. Just as equally, I love you both so much and I'm obsessed with both of you in a very underground, not crazy weird way. You could be crazy. It's okay,

we could be crazy. Let's talk about snakesmis for just one second because it's coming up. Um, we just wanted to share but with people we are. We're doing Snakes Smiths. Hemo is going to be there. He's always been, um, incredibly supportive of all of this with along with us the whole time. Um, this is the third year we're doing it. So I just wanted to remind people that, um, Snake Smiths is here. It's a seven pm from the I Heart Radio Theater in Los Angeles, and you can't

join them. We would just say you're performing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, performing and say something about it if you want. But I want to teach what it is I know. But then well, okay, so give you're a really good secret keepers, so give us something to give Give us a nugget. M guys, don't look on the spot. That's the whole point of this. It'll be like a perfectly wrapped little gift just for you. Yeah, yes, it went on the top. That's right, that's right, that's right, Yeah, that's right. So

Hema will be there performing something there's your nugget. I'm so excited for this year. I cannot believe it's live. I know, we're so grateful that my heart has been so great and that we get to do this live and we get to be with everybody. This is the first we were getting to do that, UM, and it's just like it's just a totally different vibe. So we're super stoked that we can. We're able to do this will be an audience that would be so much fun. Yeah,

we're gonna play games. There's gonna be like it's gonna be a good time. But if you can't come in person, you can also we are streaming the event on December eight at five pm Pacific Standard time, so make sure you go to box office at Mandolin dot com. And

all those tickets are donations towards Alexandria House. UM, all that money goes to them, and it's just an incredible cause and they've been so so nice and supportive of us trying to string something together for them every year there and you know, I've been wonderful to keeping Naya's memory alive also within Alexandria House as well. So UM email, thanks for thanks for supporting Snake Smiths along with us always. If I wasn't a room parent, I did more. No,

you get enough on your place. Room parent is crazy. Later, Um, some of these top Brittany is purest lines. I just wanted to share. Do you have a favorite? You have a favorite before I read any of these off, I don't think so. The story was pretty funny. There's there's

so many good ones. I just loved when Ian would come on set and he would he would it would be like he's in class, like he was sit there and write things down, and he'd come to me on the side and say that, oh my god, you were probably his favorite, just because he got to like you could like his mute as you could say all these like crazy things. Did did people come to Like people

come up to you and like say, Brittany lines to you. Yeah, and so I don't even know, I said, And so that's like this one, like Sara Patch kids are just gummy bears that turned to drugs. Heart attacks are just from loving too much. No, that's cute. A unicorn of someone who knows he's popular but isn't afraid to show it. I mean, and I think maybe the best line of the entire show, ever is did you know that dolphins

are just ga sharks? I mean there have been I mean that's that's got to be the best line because it's ever right like that, that's it how much fun? Like that's great. There wasn't a lot of impropping on the show too, so it's nice that like Ian could do whatever he wanted because he's one of the creators and writers and just for that. Yeah, oh absolutely, before we let you go, do you have a favorite Santana

Brittany moment? Oh golly, oh my god. I was like, I had my notes ready for my favorite song just based on what you guys did. I was like, I have a phone note, but we'll give us the notes, give us the notes. Tell us, Okay, what is your favorite song on this show? Yeah, you asked stupid. I loved you Can't touch this. That was so much more because it was like, I know, I think everybody hated it, but that is no other I have the same memories

as you have this number. I agree. I am with you, yes, because hammer pants and yeah and like the nineties and the late eighties, like that was mine in the number. It was a really fun day directed that, right. I was just really worried about the rap. The rap was messing me up, So I think that's what I was concerned about. That's a lot of words dead. That is hilarious though, that all of all the numbers, she brings out. What was my least favorite song? I hated Hello, Goodbye

and what you Want? Those like those are classics that you just shouldn't touch. Okay, I see where you're that you just shouldn't. I hate it, I will say as much as um. The Gaga stuff was amazing, Like, Jenna, you knew I hated bad Roman lobster was a terror, and well that mask was really hard on you. That was really hard, Coster. Yeah, the lobster was eating my brain. It looked really good though. I would just look over though, and she would just not be thrilled she was. That

was a hard one. That was a hard one. It was a hard one. You're always there for me, Jenna, Oh, you were always there for me. Hither she would love you love to play the people's hair, and I would think, oh my god, the best head rubs of all time. Oh I think about those. Yeah, I just need a human touch, you know, Like, yeah, I hear that. I hear that. What was the Santana line that she said on the show. I just need I'm like a warm body or something. It wasn't it like, um, we'll find it,

we'll find it and we'll Yeah. She's like, I'm I needed something between my legs and a warm Yes, what what is it? We'll find it. Well, I'm like a lizard, I need something warm beneath me, yes, or else i'd just my food. What a brilliant mind, what a brilliant line. Do you have any more favorites? Things which on your notes?

What's in your notes? Yes? Um? Okay? The River Deep Mountain High was my childhood as a dancer, so of course, and all those two were just like on tour too, you get to like, actually that was a good one. But they were such a joy to watch. H for me? Is it the fact that we did jump on trampolines and I remember everybody was like so over it, especially Amber. Amber did not want to be doing this. She hate a bnut And I was having the best in in

my life. The song is crazy, And then they wanted to put it on our first tour ever when we went the Radio City Music Hall and the fact that they thought that that wasn't a hazard and we did it. We did do it, and it was actually really fun on tour to do that. The reason why we all hated that number in real life, we'll talk about it during mattress was because they turned they had to turn the air conditioner off for sound purposes, and it was

so freaking and jumping, just balancing on these tramplines. We should have known because there was my preamble. Yeah, um, anything else on these notes, himo? Oh no, I think that's it. Are we asking favorite songs with Nya? Because favorite scenes? Anything like that you did with nine it was you got I think, Yeah, you got so many one on one scenes with her, and you guys were so good in your relationship started a movement, you know, like the Santana Britney fans are still wild, like they're

passionate love them. Yeah, yeah, with the best of intentions. That's right. I just got I just got so many wonderful moments with her, and and I think everything we got she annihilated, and she she came from truth and I remember every time we would do something, she just

wanted it to be more truthful. And more real and more personal, and um, getting to watch her sing the songs that she got to sing like Songbird to me, like those were real tears because she was just so incredible and her voice was just she was an angel. And it was like, yeah, I just feel so lucky. Mm hmm. Thanks for sharing. Yeah, like a perfect moment. But I mean she was all around the meeting. There was not now, it was it was why. It was again like watching you perform. It was a gift watching

her perform, very very good. Thanks for sharing all these wonderful nuggets. Um, it was such a pleasure to have you. And we just know we can always count on you and we really appreciate that. We love you. I love you guys so much. As are consistent. You guys are like the rock and I'm like and I need to tether to you. You're the best. Wow. Heather Morris just

a Jim, isn't she? She really is? And it's it's just such a joy to see your friends grow and evolve, and um, you know, I just feel like we've all I'm just so glad we've all stayed so close and found each other in this new, new way and it's it's wonderful to see you know, your friends like you go from obviously being super talented and professional to being also an incredible mom and wife, and it's just yeah, it's wonderful to see everyone do their thing. Remember how

there's wedding. We didn't even talk about that. Nia was so pregnant, she was very pregnant. She's like, I'm on a food tour. Well, we'll have to have Heather back and then we can we'll talk about we'll talk about the wedding. Well, thank you Heather more us for coming on and sharing and baring your soul. We love you so much, and come back next week for another recap and another exciting guest. Thanks for listening and uh, see you next week. Tell your friends, tell your family, and

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