6. "You were almost painfully honest" | Jo Gubbay interview

I met Jo Gubbay when I was in a very dark place, on the Talk For Health training course that was the subject of the previous episode. Despite seeing me in a bad way - or, in fact, because of that - Jo invited me to speak to hundreds of people at her workplace, one of the most prestigious law firms in the world. Jo is highly regarded in her field, as a lawyer herself with oodles of experience at the top of learning and development. But I had little self esteem at the time, and didn’t believe I had much to offer. In this episode, recorded two years later, I ask Jo to describe what happened. For my Events page, go here: https://flintoff.org/art/events/ For Freesound, go here: https://freesound.org/