[00:00:00] Corinne Foxx: Welcome back to another episode of Am I Doing This Right? I'm Corinne Foxx.
[00:00:04] Natalie McMillan: And I'm Natalie McMillan.
[00:00:05] Corinne Foxx: And we are best friends, confidants, millennials, and the hosts of Am I Doing This Right? A life how-to podcast from the perspective of non-experts.
[00:00:15] Natalie McMillan: And each week we cover a new topic, and we drink a new bottle of wine
[00:00:19] Corinne Foxx: And this episode, we're talking relationships between, we talk about a lot, but we're talking about like these very specific as it mannerisms, or it's like a qualities about yourself that help enhance your relationships. So we're talking love languages, which maybe a lot of people have heard, but we're going to get into more detail and attachment styles, which maybe people haven't
[00:00:42] Natalie McMillan: heard of, or if they have, they might not really know.
What
[00:00:45] Corinne Foxx: that means what it is, but it totally affects all of your relationships, not just romantic, but, but tonic, familial. Yeah. All of them, all of them. So we're going to be talking about what are the five love languages and how they play a part in your relationships, attachment styles, how to figure out what, what yours is and how to build a secure attachment for relationship long-term.
'cause you really need to be secure. Yes you do. Um, and we're, we're both working on that. Yes. And at the end, at the end of the episode, we're going to be playing unpopular opinion, popular opinion. I feel like all our little, wrap-up going to step a little song. They should, we have like 12 of them
[00:01:25] Natalie McMillan: or any of these people, musicians listening right
[00:01:28] Corinne Foxx: now.
We'll solve them for a little
[00:01:32] Natalie McMillan: jingle. I would love to know what citizen's arrest would sound like.
oh my God.
[00:01:43] Corinne Foxx: Now what are we drinking today?
[00:01:45] Natalie McMillan: We are drinking the, okay. It's either Lucien or Lucienne.
[00:01:50] Corinne Foxx: I think it's Lucien. Cause that seems like a friend more French. Oh.
[00:01:55] Natalie McMillan: What, okay. It's a 20, 20 18 Pino, but it's from Santa Luchea or Lucy. We, we work one of the, a winemaker actually emailed, emailed us and
[00:02:08] Corinne Foxx: was like, it's pronounced this way.
We we're like,
[00:02:10] Natalie McMillan: oh, but I no longer remember how it's actually pronounced. So, but that's where it's
[00:02:17] Corinne Foxx: from. yeah. I love a peanut. I don't know. I'm feeling insane because, um, again, you guys, I have this coffee problem. I have a coffee, I have wine. I have water. I have a lot of liquids
[00:02:33] Natalie McMillan: around me, lots of liquids.
That's how, you know, you're an adult. I realized when you just have like 15 different drinks and they're all like half
[00:02:40] Corinne Foxx: drank. Well, I would love like in the morning, you know, I love OJ. Oh,
[00:02:45] Natalie McMillan: grin has always, since the day I've known. Dies for a good OJ.
[00:02:52] Corinne Foxx: I love it. OJ. Yeah. And like my ideal morning is like an OJ, a green tea, a coffee and water.
Yeah. And I would like all four of those beverages at all times available to me. So I can take a little sip of one we'll sip next. Everything has a different purpose. Yeah.
[00:03:08] Natalie McMillan: I can totally see that for you. I also think that you would get toast with scrambled eggs and then you also would probably do like one piece of French toast and a side of bacon that,
[00:03:22] Corinne Foxx: well, that would be your dream.
That would be your dream breakfast. Wow. I love toast. She really loves toast. I love toast and OJ. Um, Way out of the scope of what we're talking about today, because we're talking about love languages and attachment styles, which I think is super important for people to understand about yourself. So, you know, how you show up in relationships and like what you need, I think, love languages, or like knowing what you need from your other partner.
And then your attachment style is like knowing how you. Yes in relationships
[00:03:58] Natalie McMillan: or relationships. Yes. And both are very good to know also for the other person in the relationship, be it friendship, family, romantic, whatever. It's good to kind of know both
[00:04:11] Corinne Foxx: sides. Yeah. So we're going to get into all of it, but not, let's start with the love languages, which I feel like is the most familiar to
[00:04:17] Natalie McMillan: people.
Yes. So there are five basic love languages. Five ways to express love. Emotionally, everybody has a primary love language that we need to learn to speak if we want that person to feel love theoretically, theoretically.
[00:04:35] Corinne Foxx: Okay. So your love language is how you would like the other person to express love to you.
Yes. Not how you like to express your love. Exactly. Okay. I gotta wait. I gotta, I gotta go. So where did this whole idea of love languages even come from?
[00:04:52] Natalie McMillan: So this guy named Gary Chapman, he has a PhD in philosophy. He wrote the book, the five love languages, how to express heartfelt commitment to your mate.
Back in 1992, after he was a marriage counselor for 30 years, and he was recognizing patterns within the couples that he was working with. So he argues that while each of the love, love languages is enjoying. To some degree by all people, a person will usually speak one primary love language, but all are important and they also can be ranked.
[00:05:27] Corinne Foxx: Yeah. So you have like one and then you like my most important. Okay. So what are these five love languages?
[00:05:34] Natalie McMillan: They are words of affirmation, quality time, physical touch, acts of service and receiving gifts.
[00:05:43] Corinne Foxx: Okay. Okay. And for everyone listening, just to go into the first one. Words of affirmation. So if your love language is words of affirmation, things like I'm so grateful for you or no one makes me laugh like you do, we'll go an extremely long way.
Words of affirmation. People like to feel seen and acknowledged. I will say I really like words of affirmation. That's up there for me in terms of like being seen same. The next one is quality time. So people with quality time, as their love language feel most love when their partner gives them their undivided attention.
For example, you can go to a cooking class together, go on a handheld walk after dinner schedule weekly date night, even if it's just like with your friends, like doing something meaningful, like we're all going ice skating this week. Um, things like. Yeah things together. But if your love language is physical touch, which it could be, it might sound like that's something that's sexual, but it actually doesn't have to only be sexual Chapman even says we have long known the emotional power of physical touch.
That's why we pick up babies. We touched them tenderly. Um, long before an infant understands the meaning of the word, love he, or she feels loved by physical touch. So if your love language is physical touch, you need cuddling. You need handholding. Even your partner, putting their hand on your shoulder would fulfill the need for physical touch.
[00:07:15] Natalie McMillan: That makes so much sense, honestly. Yeah. And also like when I think about babies and what's the skin to skin. Yeah.
[00:07:23] Corinne Foxx: Cause. You're also, you get a lot of hormones in your brain, uh, oxytocin. Yeah. Is that the drug? I never know. Oxycontin is
[00:07:31] Natalie McMillan: a drug oxytocin. I do believe is gotta be similar. Right? Oxy must be something chemical in your brain.
I don't know. I have no idea. Not the time or place. Think about this later. So an the acts of service example, these types are very much actions speak louder than words people, and they feel very loved when things. Done. So examples of this would be like, if your partner cooked for you or if they made you your coffee in the morning, just like you like it, and you didn't even ask, or they did an errand that you hate to
[00:08:04] Corinne Foxx: do.
I will say right now, acts of service is my love language. And Joe I've told Joe that, and he's just like, totally. For me, like, you know, getting my new home. There's just so many to do's and things I can't do on my own because I'm like just, I don't, I'm not tall enough or whatever. And still a Joe's been doing a lot more things and I told them like, oh, you're really fulfilling this acts of service need for me.
[00:08:28] Natalie McMillan: I didn't see, this is why Joe and croon work. They they're very much like they do these things. They understand the love languages. And th this is why we got to know all this stuff. It creates harmony. Also every time I'm like fine with being single, but then every time that there's something in my apartment that I'm like, God damn it.
Like right now, all my life. I can not reach those. Yeah. You need
someone
[00:08:49] Corinne Foxx: who's six, five. I need
[00:08:49] Natalie McMillan: a survivor that can just it's rough. The last love language. The example here is receiving gifts and Chapman says in every society throughout human history, gift giving has been perceived as an expression of love.
Giving gifts as universal because there is something inside the human psyche that says, if you love someone you will give to him or her, what many people don't understand is that for some people receiving gifts is their primary love language. It's the thing that makes them feel loved most deeply. So if you're someone whose primary love language is gift giving, you feel loved and treasured by receiving thoughtful gifts on birthdays, holidays, anniversaries, or like no occasion day.
And the gifts don't need to be expensive or elaborate necessarily. It's really the thought that counts. And even something as simple as like a homemade card or some flowers that would feel like a clear communication of love and little things, mean a lot to the gift receiving love languages.
[00:09:56] Corinne Foxx: My C that this is what I'm curious about.
Like, can you have, uh, your love language? Like if my love language is acts of service, but I love to express my love through gift giving. It's how I communicate. I love somebody. And like, I spend a lot of time. I really think about the gifts and like, yes. So like, is there a reverse love language where it's like, that's how I like to express it, I guess, I guess so.
But it's really dependent on if Joe's were like, I might enjoy it, but that might not be right. Joe's primary. So he's not exactly like if it's not as meaningful to him. Exactly.
[00:10:32] Natalie McMillan: Yeah. So like, for example, if you like your love language primarily is words of affirmation, but like, let's say general service.
Yes. But like, let's say Joe, like to express love. With like physical touch. Right? So like him holding your hand, you're like what? This does. Nothing does nothing
[00:10:50] Corinne Foxx: for him. Yeah. So this is also, this is a real life situation, always his physical touch. Um, he, I think does definitely want more physical touch from me.
Okay. You know, we'll get into attachment styles. Why? Like, I'm not as physical touchy, but I know that. So I had, sometimes I'm like, okay, Right now, put your hand on her shoulder. Like, you know, it's not how I'd rather just get you a little gift, right. But this is what
[00:11:15] Natalie McMillan: you need, but that's what he needs. And that's why all of this is very
[00:11:18] Corinne Foxx: important as guys, if you want to know more clearly what your love language is, you can go to Chapman's website five, love languages.com and take the quiz.
There's a little quizzy. We love a quiz. Um, and if you take the quiz and you and your partner have different love languages, don't worry. Right?
[00:11:36] Natalie McMillan: Not right. Yeah. According to psychology today, which is another one that we love research found that couples who shared the same primary love language were no happier than couples with a love language mismatch.
The research also revealed that while the vast majority of participants intuitively. Did their partner's primary love language insight into what a partner needs to feel loved didn't necessarily result in better relational outcomes. The relational happiness lies within each partner's ability to actually put what they know about their partner's love language inaction, and then adjust their actions towards
[00:12:15] Corinne Foxx: them.
Right. So like, I know he likes like, yes, no, he likes physical touch. I actually have to do you actually
[00:12:22] Natalie McMillan: have to, yeah, you have to put the hand. I got to put my hand on her. Right. You can't just know the information and be like,
[00:12:28] Corinne Foxx: okay. Yeah. Yeah. But it is worth noting that some psychologists don't agree with the principle of love languages.
Tim Cole has a PhD, so. Decades of empirical evidence show that having a secure style of attachment and being responsive to a partner's ever changing needs, lead to the outcome. Most couples desire, long-term happiness and satisfaction, which brings
[00:12:51] Natalie McMillan: us to our
[00:12:51] Corinne Foxx: next topic, touch one style, which people maybe have heard of, but don't fully, fully understand.
So yeah, we did a lot of research. We got a lot of this information from the attachment project, which we'll link in the show notes.
[00:13:06] Natalie McMillan: So what are attachment
[00:13:08] Corinne Foxx: styles? Yes. Yeah. So psychiatrist and psychoanalyst, John bow Lee's work on attachment theory dates back to the 1950s. And according to Bali one's relationship with their parents during childhood has an overarching influence on their social, intimate relationships and even relationships at work in the future.
In other words, your early relationship with your caregiver. The stage for how you build oh, wow. For how you will build relationships as an adult. So attachment styles develop early in life and they often remain stable over time. So based on his theory for adult attachment styles were identified. One is anxious.
Preoccupied two is avoidant dismissive. Three is disorganized or fearful avoidant. And the fourth one is secure. So maybe you have never really thought through or analyzed your behavior in relationships, but still you've kind of noticed a repeating pattern in your love life.
[00:14:14] Natalie McMillan: Yeah. Like, have you ever wondered why you keep ending up in the same situation even with different partners or are you like one of those clingy kind of like jealous people or do you always seem to be more involved than your partner?
Maybe you want to be with someone, but as soon as things get emotionally intimate you back
[00:14:31] Corinne Foxx: off. Yeah, no, this is where knowing your attachment style comes into play and can help you heal from insecure attachment styles.
[00:14:39] Natalie McMillan: Okay. So. What like, can we get into some of the actual attachment style?
[00:14:44] Corinne Foxx: Yes, let's get into the first one, which was the anxious, preoccupied attachment style.
So anxious attachment is a type of insecure attachment style rooted in fear of abandonment and an insecurity of being underappreciated. So for adults, with an anxious attachment style, the. Often the better half, ah, the thought of living without the partner or being in loan in general causes high levels of anxiety.
People with this type of attachment, typically have a negative self image while having a positive view of others. Oh
[00:15:21] Natalie McMillan: yeah. Staying. I know they also often seek approval support and responsiveness from their partner. Uh, people with this attachment style value their relationships very highly, but are often really anxious and worried that their loved one is not as invested in.
In the relationship as they are. Yeah. So they can become overly dependent on relationships, which can lead to overwhelming panic and worry about their partners, behaviors, and intentions. So what are some of the signs like if you have a. Anxious attachment. I was an ancient attachment, anxious
[00:15:59] Corinne Foxx: attachment to the universe.
Um, yeah, some signs of an anxious attachment style is feeling insecure in relationships being in clingy or possessive, being scared of rejection, being jealous, being distrusting of others, being overwhelmed by intimacy, but longing for it. Having a low or negative view of yourself or a strong fear of abandonment.
Often because anxious adults to get intensely jealous or suspicious of their partners. Yeah. But there is a way to heal the anxious attachment style if you're listening right now. And you're like, you're like I have, uh,
[00:16:38] Natalie McMillan: I have been shocked.
[00:16:41] Corinne Foxx: Um, how would you go feeling this anxious
[00:16:45] Natalie McMillan: attachment? Yes. So one key to healing, an insecure attachment style is to make sense of the way you interact with your loved ones.
Especially with your partner, recognizing your behavioral patterns in relationships and being mindful of them will. Make the issue easier to solve self-reflection is very important here. So analyzing and making sense of your childhood experiences, it's an essential
[00:17:12] Corinne Foxx: step. And one of the things we're really not talking about in this, and you should do more research on is that all these attachment styles come from the way your parents or your caregivers interacted with you.
So you can go in and like learn in depth as to like why a certain relationship caused you to have an anxious attachment style. If you're listening to this, I don't want you to feel guilt about having any of this because when you really learn about it, you realize it comes from something that you had no control over.
Exactly. So just zap that out there for anyone who was like, damn, that's me. No, it's not your fault.
[00:17:45] Natalie McMillan: It's not your fault, but also we're not blaming. We're not blaming the parents. You know, it's not just. Everybody's got their own healed trauma. That's what we're trying to heal it now we're healing our own shit so that our little kids are all secure, secure.
What if anybody listening right now? I was like, no, I'm good. I
[00:18:03] Corinne Foxx: can't imagine it because I am this next. Which is the avoidant attachment style, so we'll get into it. So the dismissing or avoidant type would often perceive themselves as lone wolfs, strong, independent. And self-sufficient not necessarily in terms of physical contact, but rather on an emotional level, these people have high self-esteem and a positive view of themselves.
The avoidant. Tend to believe that they don't have to be in a relationship to feel complete. They don't want to depend on others. Have others depend on them or seek approval or support in social bonds. Adults with this attachment style generally avoid emotional closeness and they also tend to hide or suppress their feelings when faced with a potentially emotion dense situation.
hello you plus the Aquarius plus aquarium, but yeah, these individuals will let you be around them, but they will not let you in. And I tend to avoid strong displays of closeness and intimacy. And as soon as things get serious, dismissive avoidant individuals are likely to close themselves off. But I feel like with Joe.
You have, I'm actually really good at yeah. At saying how I'm feeling or like what's going on. But I do, I do like push and pull with like, talking about our future. Like, I'll be like, he'll sometimes I'm like, yes, I can't wait for a few. And then sometimes he's like, so like when I move in, I'm like what?
You're like, oh, your ways you're moving it. And he's like, who are you? Yeah. We talked about that yesterday. I'm like, I don't know about that. And he's like, okay, like, should I plan on that? Are we
[00:19:48] Natalie McMillan: not doing that now? And I'm like, I don't know. I don't know. We'll figure it out. I don't even really know you that well.
So here are some of the signs. So if you're an avoidant, you avoid emotional closeness in relationships. You have a feeling as though your partner is being clingy when they simply just want to be emotionally close. And I'm sorry about that, Joe, you have a strong sense of independence. Feelings of high self-esteem while having a negative view of others.
So it's flipped from the anxious attachment style, withdrawing and coping with difficult situations by yourself and withdrawing or tuning out from unpleasant conversations or site. Yeah,
[00:20:33] Corinne Foxx: that's me. So now how do I, how do I heal that? Gee I'm in. Okay. So
[00:20:38] Natalie McMillan: first of all, everybody say it with. Fair
but the key is to admit and realize that the switch quote, unquote switch on emotional intimacy has to be turned on. This might be challenging and require a lot. Effort because the avoidant adult needs to start paying attention to the emotional and physical sensations that come up around emotional intimacy.
So self-reflection might help a one makes sense and analyze existing patterns. Obviously, working with a therapist on this pattern would potentially be the most beneficial way that you can move forward in having that nice secure attachment
[00:21:25] Corinne Foxx: style. You know, I told you I just came from therapy. I just talked about this in therapy today.
Isn't that crazy? We were looking at patterns of my previous relationships and like it's certain points when I start to tune out because I get scared. I'm like, oh, it's getting too serious. Um, and it's weird. Cause it's been at the same point, all of my relationships two and a half years, I started to get real flighty.
Oh, going to go,
[00:21:48] Natalie McMillan: well, Hey, you've made, you've crossed
[00:21:50] Corinne Foxx: that line. Yeah. I'm aware of it. So I'm like, okay, like how do we deal with this? I'm like, this is just like my attachment style and how can. How can we love the self-awareness. We love that. We love it. So the next type of attachment style is this disorganized attachment also known as fearful avoidant.
So
chat, just take a big, okay. So disorganized attachment involves both high anxiety. And high avoidance. So it's essentially a blend of both the avoidant attachment style and the anxious attachment style. Love that for me. So adults with a disorganized attachment style, lack the coherent approach towards relationships.
On one hand, they want to belong. They want to be loved. They want love. While on the other hand, they're afraid to let anyone it. So they have a strong fear that people who are closest to them will hurt them. These adults expect and are waiting for rejection, disappointment, and hurt to come. And in their purse perception, it's really inevitable that will
[00:22:58] Natalie McMillan: some time.
Called out. That's literally like,
that is me. That is me. But for people that are listening, what are the signs? Okay.
[00:23:15] Corinne Foxx: These are the signs having mixed feelings on close relationships, like wanting it, but then also. Fuck. No, I don't want that desiring emotionally close relationships yet feeling uncomfortable with emotional closeness, having a negative view of yourself and of partners views themselves as maybe unworthy or of responsiveness, but at the same time, not trusting partners, intentions.
So they seek less emotional closeness and frequently suppress or deny their feelings and they make. Like freezing or states of rigidity or stuck repetitive behaviors, or even a flooding of emotion. Cause they're not really like allowing yourself to feel things.
Not, you can, you can heal from that. And how are you going to do that?
[00:24:04] Natalie McMillan: Yeah. And I, to work on one of the key issues in people with this attachment style is fear of someone they trust hurting them. So of course our easiest solution is just to simply not trust anyone, but this however is not a very, uh, Dev or fruitful solution simply avoiding proximity will not heal the trauma or the painful childhood experiences in order to learn, to build secure relationships, you need to learn to trust people
[00:24:36] Corinne Foxx: for which
[00:24:40] Natalie McMillan: sounds easy, but for adults with a disorganized attachment style, it can be very challenging.
So for this reason, it might be best to start off easy and not push yourself. And like, we love to say
[00:24:52] Corinne Foxx: everything on the podcast circles back to
[00:24:55] Natalie McMillan: therapy, to therapy, but truly like when I, cause I at the top of 20, 21, I told my therapist, I was like, I want to work on my attachment style because it is all kinds of fucked up.
And we have, I've learned
[00:25:07] Corinne Foxx: a lot about myself. You've done, you've done the work, done the
[00:25:10] Natalie McMillan: work here, still working on it
[00:25:12] Corinne Foxx: as Olin. Okay. And the last one, which is what we're all trying to achieve here, what we're trying to get to. Secure attachment, which I can't believe that people just live this way, but apparently they do.
If you actually have my research, it was like, it was like 60% of adults are of secure no way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:25:33] Natalie McMillan: That
[00:25:33] Corinne Foxx: is unbelievable to me, major, major, um, but adults with a secure attachment style tend to have it easier when it comes to social contacts, bonding, and intimate relationships, they are aware of their emotions and emotional needs and are able to both experience and express them.
They are open and straightforward and do not go to extremes.
[00:25:57] Natalie McMillan: Interesting. So apparently there's three hallmarks for a secure attachment. Number one is a positive view of self. So securely attached adults have a positive view of themselves. They don't need reassurance to feel valued or worthy of love. Yet.
This does not mean that they reject or do not want intimacy or emotional closeness. They simply just feel good on their own as well as in relationships. I think we both actually do
[00:26:27] Corinne Foxx: have, yeah. That
[00:26:29] Natalie McMillan: second is the positive view of others. I think this is where we lose the security, the security. So these individuals, they also have a positive view of others.
They tend to trust their partners. They don't feel the need to be jealous or doubt their loved one's intentions. They're able to accept
[00:26:47] Corinne Foxx: displays of affection. That's where I
[00:26:50] Natalie McMillan: check out without fear or confusion. That's always my thing. I'm like what, like anybody that expressed interest I'm like, huh? Like what, why these secure people, they also aim at and are capable of building and maintaining meaningful and long lasting romantic relationships.
And they are very comfortable with proximity and bond easily.
[00:27:14] Corinne Foxx: Okay. Okay. And then the last of the three hallmarks of a secure attachment is a positive view of your childhood. It's a securely attached,
[00:27:25] Natalie McMillan: it's got to finish this off.
[00:27:27] Corinne Foxx: As securely attached to adults also tend to have a positive view of their childhood.
They're able to reflect on it, make sense of their past experiences, even if their childhood was not perfect. And they appreciate the good and understand and move on from the.
We're working on it,
[00:27:44] Natalie McMillan: but I also feel like I just feel like that number two section is
[00:27:49] Corinne Foxx: where we, yeah, that's really, that's really the, the
[00:27:51] Natalie McMillan: third, you know, it's tough. It's very tough when you've gone through a lot. But I also think that we both. See what we've gone through as a ideal positive, like, I would not be the person that I am.
You know what I mean? So look at us, look at us, look at us, just working through our shit. So if you want to find out what your attachment style is, we will link another quiz.
[00:28:14] Corinne Foxx: There's so many fun, quick, you know, what were the quizzes wall? The newsletter. Okay guys, our fun newsletter would, you can sign up for an, am I doing this right.
pod.com. Um, but yeah, we hope you understand more about love languages, attachment styles, and how they can be utilized to strengthen the relationships in your life. Whether those are platonic, romantic, familial, et cetera, et cetera. You know
[00:28:38] Natalie McMillan: what? I would be very curious, go on our Instagram. Today on the, like the one where we post what the episode's about and comment what your love
[00:28:46] Corinne Foxx: language is.
Oh my gosh. Really? Well, I'm going to say welcome and ours, but we literally just told you it's yours. What my love
[00:28:55] Natalie McMillan: language is. Oh, I think I'm a words of affirmation. Yeah. But you know, I really do love physical touch.
[00:29:03] Corinne Foxx: Really? Yes. Oh my gosh. I
[00:29:05] Natalie McMillan: love to like cuddle. I want people to hold my hand. Like I want to be,
[00:29:11] Corinne Foxx: that's so interesting.
I wouldn't have thought that. I know
[00:29:14] Natalie McMillan: it's a, I think a lot of people are like really,
[00:29:17] Corinne Foxx: but it's true. Wow. Okay. Well, should we talk about the Lucianne
[00:29:23] Natalie McMillan: nor Lucienne from Santa Lucia or Luchea we don't know.
[00:29:29] Corinne Foxx: You know, so let's introduce our Hottie and read this. Why would you like to introduce her Hannah Montana?
AKA, a fellow Sagittarius and we chose her because she's revealed that her love language is acts of service or she likes to do acts of service. I think it's. Or did she say, I think she was
[00:29:51] Natalie McMillan: saying that it's her. She likes acts of service for her
[00:29:56] Corinne Foxx: chop, chop, chop. So, yes, miss smiley one to miss Maley. I'm not mad at it.
I'm not mad at it either, but we also love a peanut and why I love
[00:30:05] Natalie McMillan: a peanut in a war.
[00:30:08] Corinne Foxx: I'd give it a seven, 7.5
[00:30:11] Natalie McMillan: 0.5 out of Ms. Hannah Montana herself. Yup.
[00:30:20] Corinne Foxx: All right. This is the time the episode would play a little wrap-up game. And as we mentioned at the top, we're playing on popular opinion today and popular opinion. And I thought of mine over, uh, the whole. Yes. Oh, I
[00:30:33] Natalie McMillan: almost think I know
[00:30:34] Corinne Foxx: what it's going to be. Oh, I wouldn't get,
[00:30:35] Natalie McMillan: what is it? Are you going to say that Turkey's
not
[00:30:38] Corinne Foxx: good?
Oh my God. But I think people, everyone thinks that it doesn't want to say it. Can we all just get on the same page
[00:30:43] Natalie McMillan: that nobody likes
[00:30:44] Corinne Foxx: the Turkey, the Turkey's dry. It's dry, even
[00:30:47] Natalie McMillan: with the gravy
[00:30:48] Corinne Foxx: and the cranberry sauce and look good. Good. I only like Turkey on a sandwich, like very thinly slice. I have one like a big chunk of it.
I don't
[00:30:56] Natalie McMillan: want the, I don't like the Turkey from
[00:30:58] Corinne Foxx: Thanksgiving. Hit me with a ham. I love a holiday
[00:31:01] Natalie McMillan: ham, a holiday ham.
[00:31:04] Corinne Foxx: Oh my gosh. We're going to put this in the stories today. Go to our Instagram and vote if you guys think good. Yeah. Turkey is it's not the star of the meal. No, but no, it is not that, but I do agree with that.
My unpopular opinion, which I do think is unpacked. I love Mac and cheese.
That wasn't really so interesting to me. Doesn't really do it for me. I don't know why. And I know someone's listening, like, oh, she, I have my Mac and cheese though. I'm telling you right now I would have it. And I'd be like, man. Yeah. It's just like, for some reason, I don't know why I do really like Kraft, Mac and cheese.
Oh, that's not real Mac and cheese. No. When people make like their signature one and the big dish or whatever, really like it, I'm like, all right, interesting. I wouldn't have picked you for that. It doesn't make sense for me. I love cheese. I love noodles. I love pasta. Right? Why wouldn't I like a cheesy part?
I don't know. I don't know. I wonder why.
[00:32:03] Natalie McMillan: So yeah, I, I do. I agree. Kraft, Mac and cheese.
[00:32:07] Corinne Foxx: That's something different though. That's not, that's a different
[00:32:09] Natalie McMillan: part of the Blue's clues ones and the little paws were blue. Yup, yup, yup. Yup. I
[00:32:14] Corinne Foxx: loved that shit. All right. So that's my unpopular opinion. What's yours.
[00:32:19] Natalie McMillan: Okay.
So mine is music related. Are you going? Oh, no, sorry. I will never go there unless I want to be, I want to hit out on me. No, um, no, this is, uh, I just feel like a lot of people have strong opinions about this. Okay. If Nickelback comes on, I don't think they're that bad.
[00:32:42] Corinne Foxx: You know, people photograph, yes.
[00:32:46] Natalie McMillan: People hate, they think they're the worst band of all time.
How bad?
[00:32:53] Corinne Foxx: I think there's worst bands out there. I mean, they were like a hit for a reason. It became a joke that they were bad, but I don't think people thought.
[00:33:00] Natalie McMillan: Actually, I know people think they are very bad. Well, let us know, tune in
[00:33:04] Corinne Foxx: vote, go into our stories again today and tell us if you think Nickelback is like actually a bad band where it's just like fun to make fun of them.
Yeah,
[00:33:12] Natalie McMillan: because I can't tell because like some of the songs come on the radio and I'm like,
[00:33:18] Corinne Foxx: what's, what's in another song because I'd photograph
[00:33:28] Natalie McMillan: it's very like not white men in a top out shirt with. Those Oakley glasses. Like that's their kind of music. Yeah.
I don't think I might even listen to the whole song in my car. Okay.
[00:33:46] Corinne Foxx: Yeah. I like that for, I love that for you. Why not? I'm happy
[00:33:50] Natalie McMillan: for you.
All
[00:33:52] Corinne Foxx: right. Well, as mentioned we have a. Newsletter you guys, if you want to sign up for it, we'll have maybe some Nickelback, um, gifts in there
[00:34:01] Natalie McMillan: tonight. We'll put a little nickel bag.
We'll put also a little picture of Mac and cheese,
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