[00:00:00] Corinne Foxx: Welcome back to another episode of Am I Doing This Right? I'm Corinne Foxx.
[00:00:08] Natalie McMillan: And I'm Natalie McMillan.
[00:00:09] Corinne Foxx: And we are best friends, confidant, millennials, and the hosts of Am I Doing This Right? A life how to podcast from the perspective of non-experts.
[00:00:20] Natalie McMillan: And each week we cover a new topic and we pop open a new bottle of wine.
[00:00:24] Corinne Foxx: I am so excited because we have some really fun guests.
On today's episode, we are talking from chaos to calm how functional organization can improve your home and your life. With professional organizers from aspire, TV's chaos to calm their new show. We have Lauren Hill Tenicia brown and V Johnson.
[00:00:48] Natalie McMillan: I truly be. Because it
[00:00:51] Corinne Foxx: will, you've been on like this whole organization and I'm actually wrong.
Girl
[00:00:54] Natalie McMillan: is really does take me from chaos to calm though. Yeah. Like my bathroom right now. Cause it's just to be fully transparent. The only one that I've finished so far, but I'm like, oh my God, my brain is so free in there. Everything's in its own
[00:01:08] Corinne Foxx: little space. I need to organize me makeup really bad. Then I really need to organize my hair care section.
You got to take like a whole day, but we have the women of the order project here. They're going to school me. We're going to talk to them about their new show from chaos to calm, which airs on aspire TV. What is functional organization? Right. And what does not function? Functional, dysfunctional. That's the, that's the fun.
[00:01:36] Natalie McMillan: Just functioning. I'm dysfunctional, organized. No, you're not.
[00:01:39] Corinne Foxx: Oh, find out. We'll see what they say. Yeah. And we're going to talk to them on how we can begin to transform the spaces and our own homes. We need the expert advice. Yes we do. Yes, we do. Are we drinking this episode? Oh right. We
[00:01:55] Natalie McMillan: are drinking. It is for Tuenello portrait.
Hello. It is an Italian wine. It says Raso Tescano I don't know what that means. I don't know if that means that I don't know what it is other than it's red. Oh, it just says red wine product of Italy. It is just a red wine. It's just simply a red wine. Oh, how many days? Montel Chino Italia.
[00:02:22] Corinne Foxx: Oh, interesting.
Okay. We'll read it at the end of the episode for you guys and let you know what we think.
[00:02:28] Natalie McMillan: Pouring myself a little
[00:02:29] Corinne Foxx: glass Eagle, and I'm very curious what your
[00:02:32] Natalie McMillan: reaction is. Montel Montalcino. Let's see.
That well,
[00:02:40] Corinne Foxx: while you process that, do you want to talk about why we're having these women on?
[00:02:45] Natalie McMillan: Yes. Well, first of all, selfishly, just because we need it, we need it. But also organization is big business. These days, you know, from books to seminars, to organizational systems, everyone wants to find some way to get out from under the stress of.
In all that disarray, but figuring out where to start and how to tackle the problem can be very overwhelming. So the order project, ladies, they come in, they come to the rescue. They're all about like you said, functional organization. And so it's not only. You know, clean and perfect and all that, but it actually makes your life
[00:03:23] Corinne Foxx: easier.
Yeah. Cause sometimes like it's hard to just do like the Instagram organizing. Yeah. Those things. Cause I'm like also half the time. I can't reach that shit. Yeah. You're very, you're very
[00:03:34] Natalie McMillan: short. I'm very vertically. Yeah. Not, not great. So I'm like, I can't. All high up. What? So since 2022 is going to be another year of being at home.
Yeah. We can't really deny that. We can't really deny. It's probably a lot of living and working at home. So I think they're going to show us how organizations. Just a
[00:03:54] Corinne Foxx: general happiness. Yes, no. And I'm really excited to the Queens of organization. Lauren V. And Tenicia the women of the order project. They are childhood best friends and working moms turned incredible female entrepreneurs through their home organization company.
So they specialize in bringing order to disorder and empowering. Clients with systems to conquer chaos. They believe everyone should not only have a beautiful home space, but one that is organized, functional and peaceful. Oh,
[00:04:26] Natalie McMillan: peaceful. As the key really is. And like we've mentioned, it's on aspire TV, which is the network that celebrates and reflects black culture and urban lifestyle and their new show chaos to calm.
Thursdays at 8:00 PM Eastern. Yes. And each episode they tackle one client's problem area in one day. That's crazy.
[00:04:49] Corinne Foxx: That's nuts to me.
[00:04:50] Natalie McMillan: And they do like a dramatic make-over reveal at the end, and they have helpful tips and advice for viewers at home, their celebrity guests. There's Kirk Franklin. There's an NBA star Thaddeus young.
He's got sneakers that they've got to organize. So they have all these different
[00:05:10] Corinne Foxx: scenarios point is these women are experts and we got to bring them on the podcast. Yes, let's bring
[00:05:16] Natalie McMillan: them on.
[00:05:25] Corinne Foxx: Hello lady.
It is so awesome to have you guys on. We are so excited, actually. Natalie has just recently had a huge organizing kick. So this is perfect
[00:05:39] Natalie McMillan: timing. When we got proposed, you guys have. Oh, this is perfect because personally I'm like, selfishly, I'm getting a lot of tips from this. I
[00:05:50] Corinne Foxx: can't wait. So just for our listeners, so they know which voices who do you guys want to introduce yourselves?
[00:05:56] Tneisha Brown: Sure. I'm Tenicia, Teneisha brown. I'm the one with a little more soul
[00:06:04] Lauren Hill: and I'm Morgan hill. I am the crazy creative, super, super organized one.
[00:06:11] V Johnson: Hey everyone. I'm the Johnson. I'm the super practical one. So,
[00:06:17] Corinne Foxx: oh, I love that. We got organized practically I little flare little soul. You guys are a great
[00:06:22] Natalie McMillan: team. Yeah. It's like the Powerpuff girls.
[00:06:26] Lauren Hill: Oh, I think we should change our Instagram girls,
[00:06:32] Natalie McMillan: honestly.
So first and foremost, can you tell us kind of what got you into organizing and how you. Teamed up to organize homes professionally. Yeah, of course. So
[00:06:43] V Johnson: this is B. All right. So let's just be honest. Lauren came out of the womb, like super organized it Tanisha and I, a little longer to jump on board, but we have known each other for a super long time.
I know you guys are like besties we're besties too in real life. Lauren and I. To our high school days, but Lauren and Tanitia go back to like their middle school day. So we've been friends for like over two decades. So we've like just been with each other throughout like every aspects of our lives. But Lauren would always come over and like, try to help us organize our spaces.
Cause she's super organized, but it took us a bit. But after we realized that doing all this organizing, like. Took the stress away from us, like space by space. We really got on board. We started organizing for friends and family, just like for fun. And next thing we knew we had a celebrity. And then it turned into a TV show.
So here
[00:07:34] Lauren Hill: we are.
[00:07:36] Tneisha Brown: Wow.
[00:07:38] Corinne Foxx: I know how important organizing your spaces and how much it affects your lives. Can you guys speak on how organization and your, you know, the wellbeing of your space also contributes to the wellbeing of your mind and your life?
[00:07:53] Tneisha Brown: Absolutely. So B is probably going to jump in and have a stat here cause she always has one ready, but for me I can speak from, so what I bring to the group is I'm a realist because I am not naturally organized.
And so as we're organizing a space, I'll say. Okay. Well, I wouldn't be able to maintain that. So maybe we should like simplify it just the little when Lauren is on the other side of the spectrum and she's going to be, you know, super, super organized. And so for me, because I'm not naturally organized the difference between my old life and my new life is night and day.
You don't realize that lingering in the back of your mind. So think about it like this. When you go to. And it's clean. It's nice. It's simple. You feel good? You messed it up. And then when you come back in, it's clean again, after they've cleaned it, it's like,
[00:08:48] Lauren Hill: this is life, right? So
[00:08:49] Tneisha Brown: why not have that in your actual.
Yeah, clean, organized, simplified. You can still have that same like fresh, good feeling versus there's shit everywhere. Your anxiety is higher. You're like struggling to. Um, clear brain fog because if your whole office is messy, how are you going to function? People think they work in organized chaos, but it's
[00:09:18] Lauren Hill: honestly,
[00:09:20] Natalie McMillan: honestly, so I'm similar to you where I am not naturally organized at all.
And so I'm just starting my little journey here, but I am noticing some things I'm just putting in bins just because. But I know you guys have you specialize in functional organizing. So can you kind of explain what that is as opposed to non-functional organizing, which I think that's what I'm doing right now.
[00:09:47] Lauren Hill: So I'll take that. I think, you know, obviously we do functional organizing. And what you just mentioned is the definition of not so functional organizing people think, you know, you just go buy a bin or two, or you buy, you know, let me get this planner or let me get this calendar that I. We'll work, but if it's not a system, then it really won't work for you.
So take a pantry, for example, you know, people think, oh, let me go buy a bin. It's pretty, or it's clear. I can see everything. But if you haven't made a functional system, that's where you kind of go wrong. And one of the major mistakes that people make is not labeling everything or not being very clear with labels.
You can be very vague and you can be very, very. Specific I'm the specific one to Nisha is like label it, something grains. And I will put everything in that. But on the other hand, I'm like, Nope, this is oats. This is grains. This is that. And so, you know, you can do either one of those, but if you don't label it, that's how you kind of get out of a system.
Right. So people don't know how to put things back. Other people can't operate in your space. I have a four year old. She can't read yet, but she can see things and she's like, okay, mommy, I know where to put this back. And I know what to do with this. And so, you know, that's one of the main things that people don't realize, they think, oh, let me just go buy beans and that's it.
But you have to start with the function of the space, how you're going to use it and what works best for you and your family. Because just because you see it on a screen and it looks beautiful, that may not be the best option for you and your house.
[00:11:18] Tneisha Brown: And to elaborate on that. I'll just be real. You'll see stuff on Instagram or Pinterest and it's, it's not realistic for 99% of humans.
I don't have every color in my pantry so I can not organize simply by color. That's not the system that works for me. I got a lot of brown and white. I don't have every color of rainbow. So when we mean by functional, is there isn't one system you have what works for you? Do you want your stuff up high?
Do you want your stuff download? Do you have kids they've been going to get in stuff that they shouldn't be in? If it's just a single person, you can put stuff, you know, things at the bottom, or it has to work for your life. So there is no perfect system. That's why we stay functional. It's like, what do you need?
And what's going to work for you. And what's realistic for you to maintain.
[00:12:07] Corinne Foxx: It sounds like you really have to know yourself, right? Like what do I do? What are my habits? How do I move in the house? What do I grab first? And then, you know, you put that on the top. And so it's like a lot of self-awareness goes into organizing your space as well.
[00:12:22] Lauren Hill: And that's what we do with our clients. Call us or, you know, reach out to us. We start with questions like, okay, how do you use this space? What do you normally do? What does that look like for you? And so we get to know them and we think about, you know, age and all those things are so many different spectrums.
You know, that people, you know, come across in their life where if, you know, if you're organizing a pantry for someone that's 60 versus someone that's 20 things look a lot differently. So again, to, to Nisha's point, it's all about functional. And we mean there's no one size fits all.
[00:12:52] Corinne Foxx: Yeah. So one to base that I admittedly have been saying, I'm going to clean out is my haircare section.
Like I have a million products, you know, over warranty and I was like, natural hair. I'm going to try to figure out my hair. And I bought about 5 million different things I didn't need. And so I'm like, no, I'm going to organize it. I'm going to go through it. So I'm going to ask you guys since you guys are here, where do I start to pull everything out first?
And then do I go through it again? Back, like what's the method to organize in like a space, like a haircare cabinet.
[00:13:25] Natalie McMillan: Yeah.
[00:13:25] Lauren Hill: I'll take that one. So yes, our process is very simple. Obviously you need to take everything out, see what you have. And if you're talking about under cabinet measurements are very important when you're talking about putting things back and using different containers, right.
So you need to take into account, you know, the pipes that are underneath your counters and what really works for you. One of the things that we found is most relevant under cabinet is drawers because you can't really, you have to use the vertical space in that, right? So you want to maximize everything that you're doing, but obviously we take everything out.
We measure everything, see what containers are going to work best. Then obviously you go through everything. So you categorize, so you take everything out and sort. So you got haircare. If that's. Shampoos conditioners, um, you know, different types of moisturizers, make categories for yourself and then go back and implement a system that works for you.
I mean, we've done everything down to like organizing Bobby pins for people because they just, you know, they have all types of hair.
[00:14:23] Corinne Foxx: That's what I need. That's the level that I'm at. My Bobby pins everywhere. My clips here everywhere. It's.
[00:14:30] Lauren Hill: And obviously, you know, you can't just throw Bobby pins in one drawer and expect for that to look organized.
So you may need a container that goes inside the drawer to put the Bobby pins in and you label that, you know, specific, or you leave it very vague, but at least, you know, your own system. So that way you don't have everything just kind of flying out out of your cabinets. But one of the biggest things under cabinet, people do not think about the vertical space.
And so it's all about using that. So stacking drawers. Perfect for an under cabinet
[00:14:58] Corinne Foxx: space. Yeah, that's what I need. That's what's missing. Call
[00:15:02] Lauren Hill: us. We'll help you out. Send us a picture, make it work for you.
[00:15:05] Corinne Foxx: Please help me out. Please invest in a label maker though. Apparently
[00:15:10] Natalie McMillan: I did get one. I did get a label maker.
[00:15:12] Lauren Hill: Yeah. And we can suggest a perfect one for you for that too. Or we can make the labels for you, send them to you. You tell us what you need and we'll make it happen.
[00:15:19] Corinne Foxx: Okay.
[00:15:20] Tneisha Brown: With the natural hair side. So I have natural hair as well. You don't need all that stuff. If you use it and your hair, doesn't like it.
Get rid of it immediately. It's not going to like it the second or the third time you put it on.
[00:15:33] Corinne Foxx: Oh, I had her intervene and I said, do not, let me, I got went to a point said, do not let me buy anything. I have to. Well, you're saying I have to throw it out, but I was like, I finished the, the product before I buy another one, because I was just like, it was every day.
Yeah. It was really low part of Corenti when you were really low. And I was just like, Amazon,
[00:15:52] Natalie McMillan: Amazon, I have to go through
[00:15:55] Corinne Foxx: it. I had the good Barrett
[00:15:58] Natalie McMillan: if people are listening and they're kind of like, oh my gosh, I also, like, my space is a mess. Like I'm overwhelmed by this. Where should they start? Like, what's the first, very first step here.
[00:16:10] V Johnson: Okay. So when thinking about what spaces in your house to tackle first, when you want to start an organizational project for me, what makes sense the most is where do we spend the most amount of time? So I have two little kids we're always in the kitchen. And so having an organized pantry is a lifesaver because my kids are always wanting to eat snacks.
They're always hungry. And so for me, that's where I start. We have labels. My kids know my daughter has a lot of food allergies too. So we have like, it's very. This is gluten-free. This is dairy-free. And so that's where I started in my, in my home, but I know it could be different for, for other people, but for me, that's where we spent a lot of time.
[00:16:48] Corinne Foxx: So with more of the highly utilized spaces and get those organized first and then, you know, move into the little pockets here. Exactly.
[00:16:57] Tneisha Brown: Unless you're like me. I get overwhelmed. I can't, I, if I was new, starting to my journey, I can not start with middle space because then I got all this junk out. I don't know what to do with it.
I'm overwhelmed. And then I'm going to quit because I'm discouraged. So for people like me, if you're like a, to Nisha start very small and get your confidence up, I'm just going to start with. I'm going to buy a Jordan, I'm going to transform this junk drawer into a utility drawer. I'm going to make sure I can just the batteries and just, you know, like make it have a purpose.
And then I'm going to feel proud going to take pictures and I'm going to post it. And I'm going to feel good about. And then I can move on.
[00:17:38] Lauren Hill: Or in other words, she'll get overwhelmed. Call me and say, I need you to come over here. Can't
[00:17:46] Tneisha Brown: I'm good. I can tackle any space, but originally I couldn't just go to a pantry V is more like in the middle of.
She's not as bad as me, but she's not as psycho as Lauren.
[00:18:01] V Johnson: We, I think we need to explain the levels too. Cause there's three of us, right? It's like the gold level, the silver level and gold level. Let's talk about. Okay. The holidays just passed. Everyone got like really cute holiday cards with your friends, pictures and all that stuff in the mail.
Lauren has a container that she organized. Her holiday cards by
[00:18:23] Natalie McMillan: year that are only my, I can never, I can never meet. Okay.
[00:18:28] V Johnson: That's that's Lauren me. I have an organized pantry, not every single one is, you know, spaghetti grains, macaroni, but it's more generalized, like, okay, grains here, this is here. And then Tanisha, she has general Bittons.
Everything is in order, but. A bit. So those are the three, three
[00:18:47] Natalie McMillan: levels. I'm a Tenicia.
[00:18:49] Lauren Hill: Who are you? Who
[00:18:49] Natalie McMillan: are you? I
[00:18:51] Corinne Foxx: think I'm a V I'm going to say, I think I need to be
[00:18:58] Natalie McMillan: Yes, I'm very Tenicia. Thanks
[00:19:01] Lauren Hill: Korean. Thanks for coming to my rescue. No,
[00:19:03] Corinne Foxx: no, don't worry. You're not alone out there. Like I could be if I pushed myself. Yeah. And this is actually a good, because my next question was like, at what point are you able to like, organize a space by yourself? Or when do you need to call in professionals?
Like when, when is it just like, I can't do this myself. I need, we need you.
[00:19:24] Tneisha Brown: I think if you are like me and it's really, really bad, and like you have literal stuff everywhere. And like there's a few things you think you think about. Okay. So do you have time? If you don't have time, just let us do it for you.
There's going to be an, an investment piece. Like you have to spend a little bit of money for somebody to do the service, but it's no different than someone cleaning your home, doing your landscaping, getting your nails and hair done. They're things that enhance your life. So if you have to have a few extra coins to invest in the service, you don't have time, or it's like really bad.
For example, some people. They might be have multiple storage units and they don't even know where to begin with the storage units or they're moving from one location to the next. And they just want to start the new place organized as a good place to call us. And if not, watch the show gives the tips and get some free game.
[00:20:16] Natalie McMillan: We were going to start. We wanted to talk about the show.
[00:20:19] Corinne Foxx: Yeah. Yeah. You guys have your do show from. Come on aspire TV and for listeners, what can they expect from this first season?
[00:20:29] Lauren Hill: Well, I think that when they can expect free game, as Taneesha just say, if we give out all kinds of tips and tricks, and I think that's one thing that makes this show very different, we're obviously bringing the viewers into the process of what professional organizing looks like.
You'll see us organize, you know, one space in one day with a big reveal at the end. So every one of those spaces, it only took us one day. I'm still kind of figuring out how we, how we made all that happen. Um, we filmed about 25 episodes, so we tackle just about every space in your home. So think pantries, closets, kitchens, you name it.
We also did a few businesses and we did a school for the very first time. So it was, it was a lot of fun and there's a variety, something for kind of everybody to kind of really feel like they can attain. And so, again, as we mentioned, you can walk away with tips and tricks that you can take back and apply to your daily lives.
And it's, you know, it's essentially like peeking behind the curtain of what a day in the life of a professional organizer is like, we encountered problems that we had to fix and product that, oh, did that fit? Okay. We have an extra, so, I mean, it's a, it's a lot that happened in the show, but it's a ton of fun.
Sure shenanigans in, in these episodes because we got to be us like our true selves. And so it's basically following us with a camera that our three friends that have been together for a long time tackling crazy projects. I mean, it is, it is hilarious.
[00:22:03] Corinne Foxx: Nothing better than
[00:22:04] Natalie McMillan: work. I know, honestly, it
[00:22:05] Lauren Hill: red is the bad, nothing better.
So which project did you guys
[00:22:10] Natalie McMillan: like? Was there one that stood out that you just thought. Like your favorite or the funniest or one that just sticks out in your
[00:22:17] Lauren Hill: mind? I think we also, so for me,
[00:22:22] Tneisha Brown: there were a lot of funny ones, me being the clown out in the street, like really showing out, but like all of us, we just had a good time, but I would have to say my favorite was probably the school because we've done several projects for them.
So from celebrities to everyday people we've done it all, but this was kind of our first time to helping like a school counselor. She had 24 years worth of clutter in her closet and we got through it in one day. We had to fill out all into the cafeteria and just the before and after and how she was so genuinely grateful for how we transformed her space and how she can help people better because of what we did that made me feel
[00:23:06] Lauren Hill: warm with those.
I love that. So for me, I'll
[00:23:10] V Johnson: just do a quick little plug because it's actually the episode that's airing next week. So we organized back at that. He is young. He is an NBA player that plays for the San Antonio spurs, the shoe collection. So he had guys, I think it was like a thousand pairs of shoes. Like just imagine Borden every color, every style 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
You're like we, there were shoes all over his house and we made a shoe. That one was really, really fun because like we keep saying like, we're all friends. And so like, I think our husbands, they all are like, you got. Y'all aren't working y'all are having fun. And, you know, we actually looped them into that episode because we needed like all hands on deck.
And so two of the three husbands were there for that episode and they were like, oh, yo, this is
[00:24:00] Natalie McMillan: organizing a thousand shoes in one
[00:24:02] Lauren Hill: day. Yeah. And it would be clear like it one day, but like really five hours it's you're on set for like eight hours. Right. You know, eight of those hours are not fully working, it's filming.
And so basically four to five hours is what we had for that project. So when you guys see it, I mean, I'm still that one. I'm still
[00:24:23] Corinne Foxx: right.
[00:24:23] Natalie McMillan: Heroes. I know I could maybe organize, you know, it would take me five hours for one
[00:24:28] Corinne Foxx: drawer and I'm not
[00:24:30] Tneisha Brown: kidding.
[00:24:30] V Johnson: I know. Just to throw out another piece too. We organize not only by color, but by type.
So it was like Jordan ones up to twos to threes. And then it went by color, like all around.
[00:24:40] Corinne Foxx: That sounds like Lauren is that Lauren that Lauren
[00:24:46] Lauren Hill: it may or may not have been me. So my favorite, um, there are so many that we had so much fun on, but I have to say the Kirk Franklin episode, we've organized several spaces for Tammy and Kirk now.
They've become really good clients for us. And on the show in particular, you'll get to see us organize their fridge. So it was so much fun. Curt and Tammy together are hilarious, obviously separately. They are very funny, but together we were not prepared for what they threw at us. And there may or may not be some singing.
I was just going to ask. The topics here is what he call this. So, you know, there may be a revolution here in there. So
[00:25:31] Natalie McMillan: Franklin,
[00:25:33] Corinne Foxx: I'm curious, you know, a lot of people are really resistant to change. I'm curious if on your show, you ran into any clients you had that were like, you know, hesitant. I know I'm not saying anyone was hoarders, but I know people are very protective of the things that they have and that they keep with them.
And so. Were there any clients that were like that? And if so, why do you think people have trouble getting organized in the first.
[00:25:57] Lauren Hill: We really didn't have anyone that we encountered that was just like, Nope, I don't want you to do this. I don't want you to do that. We did have clients that were very specific.
Like, I want my things here. I need this to stay together, you know? So it wasn't really resistance, but more. I don't know how you're going to do this in one day, but if you can great, if not, we'll figure something out with it. We got a lot of confused looks on how we're going to get this done. But I would say it goes back to the functional organizing piece.
That's where people kind of make the mistake of not staying organized is because they don't start with a functional system. And to Tanisha's point earlier, it's all about starting small sometimes. Quick wins and saying, okay, organize the drawer. Okay. Now I can take on an under cabinet. Okay. I've taken on under cabinet.
Now I can do a pantry. And once you work yourself up to something like a pantry, you can tackle a closet or, you know, a utility space or anything like that. So again, it's all about starting small, getting confidence, and then moving on.
[00:26:58] Tneisha Brown: And while maybe they didn't resist the change. We, I mean, we have to keep it real.
There were some people who didn't want to get rid of their stuff flat
[00:27:06] Lauren Hill: out. No, I
[00:27:09] Tneisha Brown: don't want to get rid of my stuff. I literally want off. Okay, well, if you want to keep all 15 black shirts, it's not going to be here. We're going to put, we're going to put what fits here. And you're going to have to find a new home for these other items.
And it might be storage. It might be somewhere else because people want to keep their sin. And we're not the type of organizers that are going to tell you. You can't have. The things that you want you're in fashion, you might need those 15 black shirts cause you go to events and you need to switch it out.
So again, functional, it's not for everybody, but for this particular client, they're not able to get rid of things. So we help them with the system in one space and we might have to go take over another. From the other team, you know? So you just make it work.
[00:27:56] Lauren Hill: Oh my gosh.
[00:27:57] Natalie McMillan: Well, I'm thinking as you guys are talking about closets and all this, I'm thinking about Kerryn because her boyfriend, she and her boyfriend are going to move in together.
Yeah. That's some pretty soon. And so I was already thinking about like couples, like how do you, do you have any tips for couples that, you know, maybe Korean has one preference of organizing and Joe might have other preference. Like how do you
work?
[00:28:21] Corinne Foxx: Yeah, how do we compromise? I will say, should I, I'm going to cut myself out.
I have a walk-in closet and he's moving in to meet with me. And I already told him I'm like the walk-in stays mine, but I had a lot of, I have a lot of other closets that they don't have. I mean, at least by way, we didn't have a lot of stuff. I'm like, you can hang up your 10 shirts right here. And he, he loves flip flops and you put those right over there in a band, and I'm going to have the walk
[00:28:46] Tneisha Brown: in.
[00:28:50] Corinne Foxx: But are there any tips that you guys have for couples on how they can compromise on organizational preferences and then also like how to, you know, assign these spaces?
[00:29:01] Tneisha Brown: Yeah. We have an episode actually like this, there was a newly engaged couple and they were moving in together and there was just one closet and it's all about boundaries.
Talk about it upfront, let's establish what the situation is going to be. And we just split it right down the middle. She had her space, he had this space and, you know, we try to make it. As far as hangers and bends and things like that, but it's whatever you determine. So if you tell him he has to be in that hot cloth and he's okay with it, that's the boundary that's set.
And that's what works for y'all
[00:29:34] Corinne Foxx: and his closet can be however, he wants it. If it's functional for him, it's fine. But then I have my closet and I do have it, you know, rainbowed out hanging up and, you know, I don't know who knows what's going on in his. I'm not going to look. I'm just as long as it shuts all the way, I don't care.
[00:29:50] Natalie McMillan: Right.
[00:29:51] Lauren Hill: Korean, do we need to help, Joe? Do we need to help him?
[00:29:54] Natalie McMillan: You might
[00:29:54] Corinne Foxx: need to. You might. So we basically, you guys are coming over it. You're doing my hair care. You're doing Joe's closet. I got a bunch of drawers
[00:30:02] Natalie McMillan: for you.
[00:30:04] Lauren Hill: Call us anytime.
[00:30:06] Corinne Foxx: Well, we're so excited to watch your show. We've seen the first couple of episodes where we love them.
We're going to link to all of your, everything you guys are doing in our show notes for our listeners. And they're going to tune in thank you so much for coming on in schooling us. We really needed this. I
[00:30:26] Natalie McMillan: really, I know I'm like, how do I go to the container store right now?
[00:30:30] Lauren Hill: I could go anywhere that your budget allows for.
There are several places for you to go. So just call us and tell us what you need. And we'll tell you where to go. Yeah. Thank you so
[00:30:40] Corinne Foxx: much. They're so wonderful. And we're so
[00:30:43] Natalie McMillan: excited for your show. Congratulations.
[00:30:45] Lauren Hill: Thank you.
[00:30:47] Natalie McMillan: Have
[00:30:47] Corinne Foxx: a great rest of your day. You too. Bye
[00:30:50] Tneisha Brown: bye.
[00:30:58] Corinne Foxx: Okay, now I'm in. I'm going to do it. I honest to
[00:31:01] Natalie McMillan: God might go to the container store app. It's right down the street. It's tempting.
[00:31:06] Corinne Foxx: I feel like this is like, that was my sign. I got to get my God again. I've got to get it together. I really just want to
[00:31:12] Natalie McMillan: hire them for me though, because it takes me so long. I do two.
Then I can keep it in place, but putting it
[00:31:21] Corinne Foxx: in place as hard, honestly, and scheduled the time I need that lab lock out a window and it's like, this is the day I'm doing this. 'cause I keep saying I'm going to do it and then I don't do it. I
[00:31:30] Natalie McMillan: know. I know. And you know, it really kind of puts me to shame when they're like, yeah, we did a thousand shoes in four hours and I'm like, oh, there's this one.
There's like two shelves in one closet that I've been putting off for two weeks. Also
[00:31:45] Corinne Foxx: a thousand Jews in five hours. I'm like, what
[00:31:47] Natalie McMillan: are you talking about? I can't even conceptualize 1000 pairs of shoes.
[00:31:52] Corinne Foxx: No, I have like 10. I know
[00:31:55] Natalie McMillan: I'm saying, man. I think that's overwhelming. I can't believe it. Yeah.
[00:31:58] Corinne Foxx: Well we hope you guys learn more about functional organization and for more information on chaos to calm, you can visit aspire.tv or facebook.com forward slash aspire TV also.
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[00:32:17] Natalie McMillan: and for the order project, you can go to the order project.com or top the order project on Instagram. I'm
[00:32:25] Corinne Foxx: a follow them right now. Me too means to follow. Okay. So should we circle back on the wine, even drinking this episode? What is the name of
[00:32:41] Natalie McMillan: It's just a red wine from Italy.
[00:32:43] Corinne Foxx: I do you want to introduce her? How do you have the week?
[00:32:45] Natalie McMillan: Ooh. Yeah, our Hottie this week as Mr. Dwayne Wade. I love him. Love him. And what's interesting is that we chose him before we talked to these ladies and we chose him because he has a color-coded shoe collection and he apparently is a very organized.
He does not need these ladies,
[00:33:06] Corinne Foxx: apparently, I guess not an organized man. We stand an organized king. Okay. So one, two, Dwayne, when we eat, what are we reading this fortunate or Tuenello I'm gonna say five.
[00:33:20] Natalie McMillan: Uh, yeah, I'll give it a five.
[00:33:23] Corinne Foxx: You do any of it lower than that? Your face says otherwise, Natalie,
[00:33:28] Natalie McMillan: give it a four out of four.
So four and a half out of
[00:33:31] Corinne Foxx: Dwayne, Dwayne Wade. That's fair. A little bitter. It's kind of bitter kind of like stabs you in the tongue, like a little knives. Yeah,
[00:33:41] Natalie McMillan: it's a little like, you know what? I need more words.
[00:33:59] Corinne Foxx: all right. This is a part of the episode where he play a little wrap-up game and today is unpopular opinion. songs for you guys, anybody, a musician, where are you guys are always coming through with a little jingle is popular
[00:34:17] Natalie McMillan: pin
[00:34:18] Corinne Foxx: yet,
[00:34:20] Lauren Hill: you
[00:34:21] Natalie McMillan: know, it could be a shortage. Yeah, just send us something fun. We really, really
[00:34:25] Corinne Foxx: want to have jingles.
I know. We really do. Okay. So Nat, do I can't remember if I've said mine yet? I know the
[00:34:33] Natalie McMillan: one I'm thinking of too. I'm like, did
[00:34:34] Corinne Foxx: I say this? Well, you guys can fact check as if we have,
[00:34:38] Natalie McMillan: okay. I'm going to say a different one. Cause I know I haven't said this and I guess, you know, it's not really the season yet, but it's about to be, I fucking love Pete.
I love peeps and I love them more when they're. And I feel like whenever I say I love peeps, people are like, oh my God. Okay. So I will do not think it's popular to love
[00:35:02] Corinne Foxx: P I'm a neutral paper. Okay. I'm neutral on peeps. Like my mom still gets me Easter bunny basket. She got me one, one time. And my Easter bunny basket is not complete without peeps.
Like, I'll be very disappointed if there's not pizza in there. I don't eat that pizza. What do you do with them? They just kind of go bad when they
[00:35:23] Natalie McMillan: go bad. Can you send them my peeps? I like when they're bad. I like when they've gone a little
[00:35:29] Corinne Foxx: bit, it's just marshmallow with like a thin sugar coating,
[00:35:33] Natalie McMillan: but it's not even like actual marshmallow.
It's like some sort of weird fuck that marshmallow, but I love them. However, I do not love the holiday ones that are like gingerbread.
[00:35:45] Corinne Foxx: Oh God, no.
[00:35:47] Natalie McMillan: There's like heart Valentines ones that have like cake flavor or
[00:35:51] Tneisha Brown: something. No,
[00:35:53] Natalie McMillan: we're going standard. Marshmallow. Either a little Chicky or a little
[00:36:00] Corinne Foxx: bunny. Yeah.
Okay. I don't think people love. They like tolerated. Like I tolerate a peep. I'll eat it. I love it. I'm not like, oh, wow. I'm so happy. Peeps are in
[00:36:12] Natalie McMillan: season. Oh my God. They make me so excited. I'm so happy that they're going to
[00:36:16] Corinne Foxx: come back. Okay. Well, your, your unpopular opinion, something you love minus something that I, that I don't love.
Okay. Squirrels, have I talked about this on the podcast? I don't think you
[00:36:26] Natalie McMillan: ha. I feel like we've, we've talked about, I feel like we've talked about the time that we were almost attacked by that one. She really does not
[00:36:33] Corinne Foxx: lie. So I don't fuck with squirrels in, in it's a very deep seated thing. Trauma that occurred in the fifth grade, we had cubbies outside from the court.
The squirrels were smart enough to be able to go into your lunch sack, unzip it, take out your little sandwich. And run away with it. So I would come out ready for lunch and my sandwiches would be gone. They'd be scattered. All my shit would be out. I don't know why they never implemented a better system where the lunches would be inside the classroom, but they were outside the classroom, exposed to the elements and the squirrels.
And then they started getting bigger and stronger and not scared of people. And then one year we came back to campus and all the squirrels were gone. Yeah. Fumigated at that place. Oh, and so ever since then, I don't fuck with squirrel. I'm on a walk with Archie and there's one tree where there's like three squirrels.
We, we cross. So I don't want, I don't talk with them. They're smart. They're kind of like, mean they're very smart. I, it just, I feel like they remember faces like crows. Like if I fucked with one,
[00:37:38] Natalie McMillan: I don't like squirrels
[00:37:39] Corinne Foxx: like that. I don't like fuck with them. I don't know if
[00:37:41] Natalie McMillan: you know this. I don't know if you know this about me.
I had a pet
[00:37:44] Corinne Foxx: squirrel. Hell. When I tell you, hell no, Natalie, I almost am walking out of the room. I might have to leave. I had a passport.
[00:37:52] Natalie McMillan: This is going to affect our friendship. Well, here's the. It was because this, you know, that I, the tree situation, yes. I almost died. Cause this gigantic tree came down. All this shit, this little baby squirrel was a casual tea.
I think it's mama or whatever got killed, but he lived, so we took it in and we like kept it alive. Um, so we had this little pet squirrel for like a month maybe. And then one day I came, oops. One day I came home and I was so excited to see him. And my mom was like, yeah, animal control came and got him. I was okay.
I mean, she called animal control to come get him because he was then officially alive. A full squirrel.
[00:38:36] Corinne Foxx: Right. And that, I don't think, I don't think they're allowed to be pets.
[00:38:39] Natalie McMillan: I it's probably illegal.
[00:38:41] Corinne Foxx: Yeah. So that's fair. And it does make me think differently of you. Yeah. I'm very sorry. It's very sweet though.
You know, it is very sweet and like a little baby squirrel. It's different. The ones that are in the wild right now,
[00:38:54] Natalie McMillan: or they have like those, uh, there's like gray and black
[00:38:57] Corinne Foxx: feed it with a bottle.
[00:38:59] Natalie McMillan: Yeah. We had two. Because it's mom. I think it's mom was a casualty of the tree as was I almost
[00:39:07] Corinne Foxx: I've learned live peacefully among them.
And what it is is I avoid
[00:39:12] Natalie McMillan: them at all costs. Yes, you do. You do. And I guess that is unpopular. Some people do like a little cute squirrel.
[00:39:18] Corinne Foxx: I would never ever feed a squirrel.
[00:39:22] Natalie McMillan: Yeah, no feeding live animals or like. Oh, my God. Was it squirrels or was it pigeons when we were in London? No, we were in Boston and this guy was throwing.
It was after we did a colonial tour. I think it was score.
[00:39:39] Corinne Foxx: Score. And like, I'm not getting like 30 squirrels. Yeah, no squirrels. And I was really, yeah, we were in the cemetery. Yeah. He was feeding all these squirrels. No, no, sir. No. Mr. Sir. Absolutely not back your ass up. Not in this public space. Not here.
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[00:40:22] Natalie McMillan: And you know what? Text this episode. Yeah, the link, send it to your friend that you're like, Hey, you need to get organized this year. Cause we all do
[00:40:31] Corinne Foxx: we all, do we all do? There's no one that, yeah, unless you're Lauren a parent, unless you're Lauren, even the women of the order project have things to organize.
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