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Not Looking For Perfect, Just Perfect For Me

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This show is produced and hosted by Mark Webber. The show is sponsored by G three Aparo. The views expressed in the following program are those of the sponsor and not necessarily the opinion of seven tenor or iHeartMedia. Who is Mark Weber. He's a self made business executive here to help you find your success from the New York City projects to the Avenue Montaigne in Paris. His global success story in the luxury world of fashion is inspirational.

He's gone from clerk to CEO twice. Mark is classic proof that the American dream is alive. And well, here's your host of Always in Fashion, Mark Weber.

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Mark Weber.

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The Olympics got me thinking about perfection. I find myself the affable side of me, the friendly side, the side of me that wants to make someone feel good about what they said or offered, what they've done, or what they accomplished. Saying the simple word perfect I've gon accustomed to the word it's perfect has become a comfortable statement from Mark Webber. It's nice, it's clear, it's descriptive, not

open for misinterpretation or confrontational for that matter. It's a perfect word for me, recognizing of course that I'm an acquired taste. I want my dialogs with humans to be direct, short and sweet. But I've noticed I've been saying perfect a lot, and I've been thinking what is truly perfect? Opinions vary. One man's peacock is another man's feather duster. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. What is or is not success the success getting what you want,

while happiness is wanting what you get. All these musings choices different for all of us. I've decided I'm not looking for perfect, just what is perfect for me. I've always looked for perfect and never found it. What I thought was perfect could always be improved upon. How can you be happy never getting what you strive for? The answer I found and am going to share with you. I've changed. I'm not looking for perfect, just what's perfect for me. I'll give you an example. When I started

to play golf, I was mesmerized. I was addicted. I wanted to be amazingly great. After all this time struggling for perfection, it never happened. I'm athletic, great, hand in eye coordination. I put in the time, I put in the training. The best I've been on rare occasion was to make perfect contact with the ball with the perfect result. Once shot out of thousands, I could get frustrated. I went to the technological Library of the Internet. I found a book, Golf Is Not a Game of perfect by

well known sports psychologist Barbara Tella. What did I learn? You'll never approach perfection. But when you're playing great, that's when you see how great you can be in spite of all the difficulties you have. When you're having those moments of greatness, you can build on them and you can be that good. I've never found it in fashion. I got another one for you. I have won denim jacket since I was in college. I still have the first one I bought in the Gap in nineteen eighty two.

It was perfect then, but fashion changes. I thought I'd love it for life. I have it for life, but I don't love it. It was oversized the style at the time, and it's still beautiful to wash to finish the detailings. But it's just not current. Fashion's not like fine wine. It doesn't improve with age. In truth, I have twelve denim jackets that are current. Each was purchased with the idea that it was perfect. I would never need another one. This is for life. The latest denim

jacket is polo. I'm ready search of perfection. I'm tired of it, I've lost I must find it. I'm driven. If your wife or husband the most important decision of your life, shouldn't you be striving for the most perfect partner, Not perfect, but perfect for you. And yet the scary fact is the divorce rate is over fifty percent perfection. I never thought about it until I went to Japan in the early days of my career. For a ten year period, I went to Japan between two and four

times a year, depending upon global market conditions. More than anywhere else than home. I was in Japan the moment I arrived. The cleanliness, the respect, the intention to detail. I saw it at the airport. I saw it on the taxis, the people on the street, the drivers of the taxis. Everything was appeccably clean and organized. The samurai

wai seeking perfection. My first day breakfast in the Royal Hotel in Osaka, overlooking the garden, the sand that was raked to perfection, the banjai trees that were cut to perfection, the water flutes moving with the sound of the water, the tending of the garden. Perfection, The Last Samurai one of my favorite movies of all time. One of the closing scenes, let me pay a kip for you.

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Perfect.

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Yeah, Perfection is the simple things, a flower, poignant and powerful, Leslie. You see it in this movie. This is a Japanese tea ceremony, elegant, each step, the whisking to the pouring. Perfection. I found it fascinating. You might find it pooring that's on you. Perfect is an ideal you strive for, something you probably never attain, something you walk towards in life, an ideal, a goal, a reward, a gift you give yourself. Tonight, I'm not looking for perfect, I'm looking perfect for me. Yeah.

The Olympics got me thinking about it. Every one of those athletes trains from the moment they're a child, some two years old, four years old, twelve years old, fifteen. Now they're in the twenties and the striving pererfection. Some of course have come to multiple Olympics in their thirties. But I don't believe in this particular Olympics in Paris, anyone received a perfect ten on any score, and if there were some I didn't see it. There were few

and far between. The drive for perfection is outrageously hard, but it doesn't mean you shouldn't try, which brings me to politics. This is where I usually took politics to Jesse. He's not here right now. He's busy again, always working, always work, And I'm sorry he's not here, so I'll have to carry this myself. I hesitate to tell you what I'm about to tell you. I'm a Trump fan. I can't help myself why because I knew him. I

worked with him. I did the licensing deal with him that started Trump Apparel when he was on The Apprentice. It was a huge, huge success at Macy's and lasted for quite a long time. But I got to know him during that period in time, and everything he promised he would do, he would do. So I lean in with the idea that I'm going to give Trump the benefit of the doubt. I think said that listening to him, watching him for the last eight years. He's done some

great things. But he's also, I say myself, an acquired to He's an acquired taste. I could see why people don't like him. I get it, But I'm a fan. I'm a fan because of what he accomplished when he was president. I have tremendous problem with the way he articulates what he wants to accomplish, the things he says, the way he addresses people. Some of the things that he ascribes to I find ridiculous in a problem and

it really upsets me for him. If he's going to be present, if he wants to be present, he doesn't have much margin for era. He's got to get it together. But there is a common sense when it comes to Donald Trump. When he stood up at the last time I saw him address the crowd, he said, electric cars are not for everyone. Those people want electric cars can have electric cars. Those people who don't don't. And there's

a lot of common sense that goes into play. And I often ask myself how he should behave what is his message? And this week he did something that I thought all along he should have done a while ago. It's the most simple question that anyone could ask in a presidential election. Simply put, are you better off? Four years later? I want to play for you the commercial he just did, and it's really a speech of Ronald Reagan. You'll get the point.

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Please welcome President Ronald Reagan, who has a few questions for you.

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All of you will go to the polls who stand there in the polling place and make a decision. I think when you make that decision, it might be well if you would ask yourself, are you better off than you were four years ago? Is it easier for you to go and buy things in the stores than it was four years ago? Is there more or less unemployment and country than there was four years ago? Is America as respected throughout the world as it was? Do you feel that our security is as say that we're as

strong as we were four years ago? If you don't think that this course that we've been on for the last four years is what you would like to see us follow for the next four then I could suggest another choice that you.

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Had President Trump. He'll make America great again.

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Simply put. Ronald Reagan was a genius in his own right. He was one of the best presidents ever. He created a world through communication. He inherited a disaster. After Carter Jimmy Catter was the president, he got voted out and Ronald Reagan came in. Twenty percent interest rates recession. I ran holding hostages. You know, he came in with a powerful message. The day they found out that he was president, I ran announced that they're going to release all the hostages.

If it wasn't a day, it was the weak was the most remarkable thing of all. They were afraid of what he would do because he was considered a cowboy, someone who would get things done with. Many things about Trump are like that. What I like about Trump was his record. I can't help but think about what he accomplished. Everything he set out to do, he tried to do, and he got waylaid by the COVID virus. Now having said all of that, he reduced inflation. There was no

jobless rate. Everybody's working, everybody was making more money. He got the NATO allies to pay their fast share. He eliminated trade agreements that didn't make sense for this country. He didn't like the Paris Climate Accords because India and China were given a free pass till two, thy thirty five or twenty fifty.

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I get it.

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Those countries were just industrializing. They belieded a break according to that, but it didn't help the Climate Accords. This selection is based on two people. Kamala Harris. She's the most radical Senator. I'm told that ever n her policies and her PORTA records and everything she's done is really questionable. I don't like what she stands for. I don't like the policies. I don't hear the common sense. I don't hear the solutions to the country. The border isn't working,

inflation's a problem, defund the police. Crime is escalated. You have to hide your watch when you walk the street. You can't walk down New York alone. You can't go on the subways. Electrical bikes are no rules. There's a lot of terrible things happening in this country now. And you have to look and ask yourself, where were the Democrats the last four years? What have they accomplished other touchy feely stuff. Look, you're talking about perfection. This country

is not perfect, but it's moving towards perfect. It's always improving, it's always trying to do the right thing. And I ask us all now, the first time ever Trump has a message, it's not even his words, it's Ronald Reagan's word. Hear that speech. I'll play it again right now.

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Please welcome President Ronald Reagan, who has a few questions for you all.

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Of you will go to the polls who stand there in the polling place and make a decision. I think when you make that decision, it might be well if you would ask yourself, are you better off than you were four years ago? Is it easier for you to go and buy things in the stores than it was four years ago? Is there more or less unemployment in the country than there was four years ago? Is America has respected throughout the world as it was? Do you feel that our security.

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Is a saint?

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That we're as strong as we were four years ago? If you don't think that this course that we've been on for the last four years is what you'd like to see us fall over the next four then I could suggest another choice.

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That you have President Trump. He'll make America great again.

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Yeah?

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Are you better off four years later? Tonight's show, I'm talking about perfection. I'm thinking about what it takes to be perfect. But I have learned for myself so I can live a normal light. I'm not looking for perfect, just perfect for me back.

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In a minute. Always in fashion.

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for one, love to shop. I love going around and seeing what's happening and what catches my attention, what would make me feel good to wear now. I don't wear the women's wear obviously, but I can appreciate it and they look amazing. If you want to look right, you want to have clothes that fits you well. You want to look like you're wearing something that's very expensive, that's exclusive for you and yours. You can find it at

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button at the neck or on the shoulder. There's a lot of details that go into carlago Felt because he's always been he always had been one of the worlds world's great designers, and this legacy and goes on and on. I can't speak enough about it except to say to you, you want to feel good about yourself. You want to know that you're dressing properly. You want to clothes that fits you well. Carl Lagafeld, Paris at Macy's Orcarl Lagafel dot com. A favorite brand has always been ISOD. My

company at one time bought that brand. The CEO of the company handed it to me and said, you better make it work. And I put everything in my career to make ISOD work. And I fell in love with that brand, and to this day it is one of the most exciting endeavors I've ever got involved with. ISOD is an incredibly strong golf brand. If you play golf, if you play tennis for that matter. They make a

great polo shirts. I mean great. They're fit perfect. The material is unique because it's a PK fabric, that waffleweave you see, and it's made of blend cotton and microfiber that allows you to stretch. And very often they are treated with solar protection as well, so they stretch, they're comfortable, and they breathe well. And one thing about Isaac they always fit. They'll never tug on you. You put it in your waist, they'll fit you great. The colors, patterns

are sensational. Now I will also tell you Isaod makes great shorts and great golf pants. You're a golfer and you want to look good. You don't have to think about how do I look. You want to think about how you play, not how you feel. Isaad is the brand for you. I know I was there when it was created. The strategy behind that brand is brilliant. It's one of my favorite brands. While I talk about it, I should tell you about the men's sportswear. Isaod wasn't

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thing iszon is affordable. Everyone listening to me talk about this brand can afford to buy it and know that there are a lot of other brands that also have a look like Izod. Although I don't believe it's fun as isond is, the brand has a lot of energy in it, but at the price points no one can compete. You can find Isaod at your leading retailers and online at ion dot com. Talk to you later, guys. I

wish you. I'm very happy spring in summer, and I help you by telling you if you were eyesight, you're going to look great.

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Welcome back to always in fashion. Here's your host, Mark Webber.

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I've always been a perfectionist. I've always tried to be perfect. I've always looked for perfect and the truth is you never find it, and I can find it very stressful and disappointing that when I'm looking for perfection it doesn't really exist. I hate to admit it. I can't find great. I think good is the enemy of great. Anybody says that's good, great, that's fine, Hey nice, it's the enemy of great. I want at least great. But I've always

been looking for perfection. The other day, someone I was with asked me about my career, and I thought about what have I achieved? What has been perfect? And nothing? Simple? Nothing? And then I said to myself, you know, all these people, if they really wanted to know who I am, and they asked these questions, and now I'm talking to them, I wonder what they would find on the internet about me.

And I got to tell you, you go on the internet, there's an awful lot of stuff about Mark Weber, whether it's corporate executive, whether it's LVMH or frankly, whether I got fired from PVH all those years ago, how many years ago. Is it now eighteen years and I still can't forget it. But it's an interesting story because there it is out there forever once since in words, you never goes away. And I thought about what would people see when they read about me. They would read about

my radio career, my books, beautiful things, you know. Mcgrough Hill taps Mark Weber's book, moroc Hill gets the rights to Weber's new book, and on and on and on. LVMH signs Weber for top spot in the USA. But I can't help but read that I was fired. And when you read what was written, it said that I didn't tow the company line, that I was dressing wearing jeans and casual clothes to work, and then I just wasn't their kind of guy. And I accept that because

I wasn't. When I was named CEO of the company. The only request that the former CEO, who handed off the reins to the CEO to me. I was president in corporate, I was a board member. He suggested that I become his replacement when he decided to retire. He met with the board, convinced the board they made me

the CEO. But he asked me one thing and one thing, only spend time with the board, have lunches with him, have dinners with them, call them, etc. Now, in hindsight, if you asked me how many times I called any board member, anybody want to guess. Zero? Oh. Never once did I call a board member. Never once did I initiate a lunch. Never once did I initiated dinner. I

just didn't do it. Now. The interesting thing about my termination when the time happened, it was mentioned in the article that I saw the other day that it wasn't for performance because the company was doing fine. So it's an interesting phenomenon. But I'll tell you when I knew for sure that something wasn't perfect, which is the conversation for tonight. My first major board meeting after becoming CEO had to do with I was concerned that our growth

was slowing down. Public companies, you get paid to grow the company. Public companies are for shareholders. Shareholders invest in the company, and people don't buy your stock invest in your company unless they think the stock is going to go up in value. And the only reason you're the CEO is for the stock to go up up in value. Forget all the nice things about building the brands pile, inviting a wonderful environment for people to work. The only reason you're in a CEO job is to build and

grow the company. Increase the market value, increase the earnings per share so the stock price will go up. That's your only job period now. Being a good guy treating people fairly, absolutely, that's part of the job. But your job is to grow the company. And in my first major board meeting, it became clear that the growth of the company was in question. We had bought Calvin Klein, which was the last great deed of my former CEO. His job was to buy it. My job was to

manage it, and we were doing a spectacular job. But we got to the point that I was concerned that it wasn't growing, and I was concerned that if we didn't find something quickly or appropriate for the company, that our stock would start to stagnate rather than grow the way it had been doing for the last couple of years.

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Now.

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When I looked at it, we had a number of choices. One was that we had a number of licensees that had large components of the Calvin Kline business within their purview. For example, Fragrance was done with Unileva, big business. Should we be in the fragrance business? Buy it back ourselves. No, we knew nothing about it. But there's a company known as Wannaco. They no longer exist. In fact, that's the

company I wanted to buy. Why because they had the license to Calvin Kline Genes, which I knew we could run and do very well. And they had the license to Calvin Kline Underwear, which was a mainstay in America and one of the most amazing basic businesses in the world. You have a bunch of fashion styles that you come and go, but your core Calvin Kline underwear business is like a bank account. It continues to sell the year after year after year, and you're good at replenishment. Every

time something sells, you send a new shipment. Every time something sells, Macy's takes it out of the back, the extra Cavil Klan under it, puts it on the floor so the customer can get it. I wanted to buy it, and I thought it would provide an amazing opportunity to grow the company. I will tell you in hindsight, either two or three years later, don't hold me to it. PVH did buy Calvin Klein from Warnaco, and after that

it's all uphill. But the interesting thing in that meeting I said to the board, look, we can coast and we'll do fine, but if we wanted to continue to grow at the twenty percent rate, we have to make an acquisition. And I think this makes the most sense for us. Logical said, well, I couldn't have done it any better if you asked me to do it again. It's exactly what I would say again. At the end

of the meeting, my boss says to see me. The former CEO, who remained on his chairman, asked me to come down to his office, closes the door and starts yelling at me, what the f were you thinking when you said the word coast? What what's wrong with the word coast? I made a point that I didn't want to just coast. I wanted to be aggressive. I wanted to be a CEO that was gonna build a business. Said you don't use the word coast, And it was then that I knew that my role as CEO wasn't long.

There were plenty of signs beforehand. One of the most amazing signs was the night before he was turning over the CEO role to me in a June annual meeting. There was a big, big go away party for the former CEO, and everyone did videos and sent words from all of the world congratulations, congratulations that I made a short speech and everything, and the dinner was spectacular but was interesting. No one wished me luck. I mean the outgoing CEO, the king is dead, long lived the news King.

I mean, I know he did a great job. He's beloved. I loved him. He was my closest ally, one of my closest friends. I couldn't have ever been successful out or I loved him. But nobody took the time to stand up and say, Bruce is leaving, the new CEO is coming in. This is a remarkable time. Let's give a round of applause or welcome. That's not how I was introduced. I was on video and gave my speech

and I knew it. And I had asked the guy planning the meeting, who's also one of my close friends, has anyone talked about a toast to me or recognizing me at this Then he said no. I said, well, listen to me. I don't want you to offer it up. I don't want you to say anything. I want to watch it. I want to observe what's going on. At the annual meeting the day the business was turned over to me, I watched the board. They weren't looking at me. They didn't appear happy to me. My wife is the

one who told me. She said, I'm sitting here mark after the meeting, and she says, no one came over to wish me luck. She wasn't even given the seat of honor. Someone else took the seat row and in front of us. She couldn even be in the front row. So I knew from day one. My wife knew more than me that my role as a CEO was imperfect, that it wasn't going to last the test of time. And I remember when I got terminated. I had drinks

with the former CEO. What the hell happened? And he said to me, I told you you needed to spend time with the board, and you didn't, So be it. That's life. If I had to do it all over again, would I have done it? Perhaps, But I never dreamed that it would turn out that way. But nothing in life is perfect. No one's perfect, and certainly I wasn't.

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You know.

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I can think of all the times. Every time I mastered a discipline, when I went from not knowing the finances to being great at finances, it wasn't enough then it was the next thing I needed to do. When I learned about the warehouse and everything going on and information, time never perfect. I always had to go on and on and on, and it was never happy. It wasn't my time to be. The time came and gone another meeting with my former friend and he said to me,

you know the board didn't want you. I had to convince them. And I looked at him and said, that would have been nice to know three years ago. What are you telling me now. I didn't know they didn't want me. I just thought they had to work hard at the time to decide whether they would take someone from in house or bring someone from outside. Anyway, I make a long story short. Life's not perfect. It's not perfect for me, it's not perfect for you. Get over it.

I'm talking perfect tonight because I know it's a goal that I strive for every day. But I learned for happiness purposes. I'm not looking for perfect, just perfect for me simply means I want to find things that I could do that I could like that I think are perfect whether they are or not, and make myself happy back in a minute.

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Always in fashion, I.

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Spent a lifetime of my career building the Van Usten Brand, and I am so pleased that they're with us now talking about suits. Men were dressing up again and it's become cool to wear a suit. Suits can be worn on multiple occasions in multiple ways. You could wear a suit formally to go out at night or to an event. You wear a suit to the office with or without a tie. If you look closely, now fashion trends, suits are being worn with turtlenecks or mark next. The choices

are endless and every one of them looks right. You could really really look the part. I believe that packaging yourself is as important as the products you package, and wearing a suit is one of those things that make men look their best. Venues and invented a new idea. It's called the cool flex suit. It's been engineered with stretch technology, giving you the most comfortable fit and mobility. It's wrinkle resistant fabric, it's cool moisture WICKI it makes

it perfect for all occasions. As we discussed just now, this new style of looking shop while feeling cool and comfortable is amazing and I'm so excited that the van Using company is involved in this new technology and is embracing the whole idea of dressing up. Let's not forget van Usen made its name with dress shirts. It's only proper that the suit business follows strongly in its way. You can find van Using Koolflex men's stretch suits at

jcpenny or online at jcpenny dot com. Guys, they're great. You should go look at them. Dkn Why Donna Karen, New York. Donna Karen began her career as one of the finest, most successful, powerful women in the fashion industry. She developed a collection aimed at the luxury market for women on the go, women who were powerful in their workplace, women who had lives that extended beyond the workplace, and her clothes went from day and tonight. An extraordinary collection.

But the interesting thing Donna Karen had a young daughter, and she had friends and they couldn't afford to buy the Donna Aaron collection, and Donna invented dk NY Donna Aaron, New York. It's an offshoot of the Donna Karen collection. The same concept a lifestyle brand. Now we talk about lifestyle brands, what does that really mean? Simply what they say,

there are brands that follow you throughout your lifestyle. You get up in the morning, you start to get dressed Donna Karen dcan why as intimate apparel, as hosiery, as all those products. You're getting dressed for work. You get accessorized shoes, handbags, and it takes you through the day. The remarkable thing about DK and Y clothes for work, they work into the evening. The dresses, the suits, the pants, the sweaters, the blouses, extraordinary clothes at affordable prices that

go from day in tonight. Part of your lifestyle is active. You have weekends, you have events, you participate in sports. Donna Karen's casual clothes did that under the DKNY label. A vast array of casual sports where that make women look great as they navigate their busy lives. Whether you going to soccer games for your children or whether you're going out to the movies, whatever you want to do. DK and Y Jeenes dk Y Sportswear is there for you. That's what a lifestyle brand is. And I need to

mention DKY Activewear, which is extraordinary. The leggings, the sports bras, the sweats. You can wear DKY Activewear certainly in the gym, certainly when you're working out at home, and certainly if you want on the street, because it's that well done. The quality of dk why is nothing short of exceptional. And why shouldn't it be because it was born from the idea of luxury made affordable for women of America.

DK and Why a true lifestyle brand that takes you from day and tonight, from the week into the weekend. DCN why you can find DCNY and Macy's DKY dot com.

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Welcome back Always in Fashion, here's your host, Mark Webber.

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Perfect it's an ideal you strive for, something you probably will never attain, but something that you walk towards in life. An ideal, a goal, or it's a reward that you give yourself, the idea of being perfect. I've never achieved perfection, but it never stopped me from trying to. I believe this country can be perfect. It's not perfect, but it's

always moving in a direction to be perfect. I believe we have an obligation to pick the right candidate right now for president If Kamala Harris wins, she's my president, and I will respect her and treat her with the dignity she deserve. If Donald Trump wins, who's my candidate. I will treat him and respect him as he should be. I want them to be successful. I want them to be admired. I want them to get the country back on track, moving in the direction of perfection, even knowing

the chances are we won't. But to be moving in the right direction is a good thing. Now in that the name of the show is always in fashion, I want to talk a little bit about fashion. I want to talk about dress codes. I believe in rules. I wish there were dress codes. I wish there were dress codes in every restaurant I walk into. I wish there were dress codes for people walking down the street. I wish there were dress codes for everything. I've just spent

most of the summer looking at women. God bless them, they look great. There are a lot of things that are starting to really disturb me. I must tell you, ladies, you're beautiful. I like what you represent, I love what you're doing. But I got to tell you, I've always been uncomfortable with cleavage. But now thongs on the beach. I don't understand the message. It bothers me. It makes me so uncomfortable. I don't know what to tell you. You're beautiful,

clothes are beautiful, styles are beautiful. I don't understand what's going on, and it's made me crazy. And men, if it wasn't for bad taste, you'd have no taste at all. I don't know when dressing down became more important than looking good. I don't know when it happened. I've written books on this subject, and yet I'm caught unawares to the degree of lack of taste that exists today with men's I had a degree of comfort the other day. I was playing in a golf tournament and I'm looking

at these guys. I tell you, literally speaking, my sons and I are the only ones on the golf course that wear long pants. I think long pants are more elegant. I think it's a better completed look. And to tell you the truth, if I was president of the United States, the first thing I would do is banded shorts. Shorts are not allowed. The only place you could wear shorts or bathing suits on the beach. Other than that, you're not allowed to wear shorts period. I don't want to

look at your lafe. I'm not interested. Ninety nine percent of you have ugly legs. You don't look good throwing your bellies and throwing the clothes you choose. Forget it. I don't want you wearing shorts. So I'm getting to guy guzzigs to me. He says, you know what, You're always wearing white pants. What's are the white pants? Why don't you wear shorts? Hey, look, you're kidding, right, This is so much cooler. I say, it's not cooler. I look at you and your shorts. Their legs are in

the sun. The heat is bearing down. You have lotional sunblock on your legs, beating down, beating bound. I'm wearing my pants and the white are reflecting. What are you thinking? You can't tell me that works. I believe in dress codes. You know, Wimbledon tennis, all white, gotta wear white. They look great. There's something about dressing up. It's a nice thing. And I've talked about this before. You want success. This show is always about success. Always in fashion is always

about success. Packaging yourself is always about success. Why don't you get the most out of what you can be. If you're going to work in a company, don't you want to do as best you can. I know it's not there, but the way you look matters. Having said that, we all can't be beautiful, we all can't be handsome. We all don't have hair, we all don't have beards. Everybody's different. Some are thin, some are heavy, some are not, some are tall, some are sure. We have to do

our best to look our best. And I haven't talked about this in a while, but I'm going to do it again because the summer liken or not, appears to be ending, so once more time, I want to go back and tell you that when I was starting out in business, when I first showed up at my first job, I recognize that everyone was dressed differently. They were very conservative, navy suits, gray suits, hermez ties, very little jewelry, very very elegant, if you will, But they were all part

of a club. They either Shopton, Paul Stewart, Brooks Brothers, whatever, the right classic stores were, Bergdorf, Sacks, etc. Those who couldn't afford those prices found what they needed in Macy's. They found what they needed. If they had a very limited pocketbook they founded at Tjmax, so there were a lot of places Coals came on and off was a big assortment of suits actually venues and suits you can find in Coals and J. C. Penny for that matter. But I had my own dress code at the time,

and I always wanted to look my best. I always wanted to well. I wanted to look good. I liked the way I look. I wanted to look the best I could. And when I realized I showed up for work, I didn't understand the dress code. Now. My style was different. I was more continental. I had more of a European flare in my American style, so my suits were more They didn't have backfence the way most American suits. They had straight backs like European suits. I was different, but

I chased that. I got caught up in different things, different colored shirts and different collar shirts, different kinds of ties with patterns, And I realized I was making fashion statements while everyone else was blending in. And I asked myself one day, what's wrong with this picture? I happened to have gone to event. Anybody knows me knows the story. I wore an orange dresser to event honoring the then

Governor of New York. I was at a dinner and when I got home, I had a picture with me and the governor and there I am with this orange shirt and I looked at it. I said, I can't believe I'm in that picture. It's disgusting. I called my wife over. I said, why did you let me go out with? She said, you wore What am I supposed to tell you how to way with the dress? You work in the business. What do you want from me? She looked beautiful. I'm standing next to her in a picture.

She's a beautiful dlack dress, and I'm wearing the navy suit with this orange shirt and orange and tie. It was disgusting, and I really was upset myself as I to think about what am I going to do? I have to fix myself. I happened to have a prophetic moment, a moment that changed my life. I said, you know, I'm going to go in simply dressed today. And I got dressed. I put on a navy blue suit, a

white shirt, a navy tie. I wore Sterling silver cuff links because I thought wearing a French cuff shirt to work would make me look more formal and more elegant. I wore black tesseled loafers and a stainless steel Rolex watch. I finished getting dressed, I looked in the mirror and it stopped me cold, and I said to myself, oh my gosh, I look great. I can't look better than this. There was no way to improve it. I called my wife, Fir, I said, what do you see? What do you mean?

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What do I see?

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I see you? No, I said, what do you see? She got to help me here, Mark, I said, let me tell you what you see. You see your husband looking the best he could look. This is the best I can possibly look in my life. And from that day I realized my dress code. I knew I was going to wear a navy suit to work every day, with a white shirt and a navy tie, and for

fifteen years I wore the same thing every day. Now people have accused me of being eccentric, which I used to think was a cool word, and I found out it means you're a little peculiar. Well, so be it. I accept it and I live with it. In fact, it was so outrageous that every time I met new people who I would work with I'd have to tell them my dress story, that I am wearing what looks

like the same clothes every day. But I want you to know every day, I changed my shoes every day, I changed my shirt, every day, I changed my suit. All of these items, I have multiple ones. They're all numbered and I rotate them. But this is my uniform. And I wanted you to understand that when you see me,

I'm not wearing the same thing. And yeah, I had to deal with being eccentric for a long time, but I learned that Albert Einstein wore a black suit and white shirt every day and never changed it because he wanted to think about relativity, not the way he looked. Now over the course of time, as time went on, I found other simple, elegant ways to look the way

I wanted to look. Chalcoal gray suit, chalcoal gray tide, black shoes, starling silver cofflings, and my rolic swad And I did this look for the entirety of my business career and what came of interest to me. And when I realized how impactful and I wasn't really the only one in the world doing this. All these years later, I go to France to interview Paris with Bernard and Know, the founder and CEO of LVMH, Louisatown in Mohennessy. I was invited to Paris. I was up for an important

job and I went to meet him. We're having breakfast. I get to LVMH's tower. They have a museum there. I went and hung out in the museum, waited for one of the security guards to take me up, and he ushered me into the private dining room on the executive floor of LVMH and then call it. Five minutes later, the elegant, tall, slim Bernardo and O comes walking in and with his French accent, says hello to me. And I realized sitting there right then and there he was

in his uniform. And as I think back now, I don't believe I ever saw him in anything but his uniform. Black suit, black tie, white shirt, black shoes, all the ore, and I was in my uniform. There's ways to dress now. Many companies are differentiated.

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Now.

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Many companies now have casual dressing, either every day or days in the week. I'm told that lawyers have casual dressing. When it comes to having clients, they always keep a blazer or a suit jacket in there with them. The smart move. You want to look your best. That's the funny thing about all of this. I see people dressing. They don't look good now. They don't know what looks good, or they don't know how to look good. And it's fascinating to me to watch all the time. I continue,

yourself is always important. You'll never be perfect, but you should strive to be perfect. You don't agree with me wearing a suit shirt and tie fine, wear a suit jacket, wear an open collar shirt, wear a niche shirt that matches a suit. There's many variables that go into it. I talk about it in the venues and commercial but there's a way to look elegant and differentiate yourself from everyone else. You don't want to do that, then you dress casually for success, which happened to be the title

of my first book, Dress casually for success. Because you take your tie in suit jacket off doesn't mean competition in the workplace disappears. You're still competing. And those of you who want to wear your t shirts and your jeans and your shorts and do it, go right ahead. And if you're an environment that that's the way all the people are dressing be my guest. But I assure you, if there are ten people in your company doing the

same job that you are, work isn't enough. There may be one or two who shine through that with perfection, with race and brilliance that are better than the rest. But you're all dressed that way. You're losing out on an opportunity. But that as a backdrop. I'm not looking for perfect. I'm just looking for perfect for me, back in a moment.

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Welcome back to Always in Fashion. Here's your host, Mark Webber.

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I'm a student of life. I'm a curious person. I guess after all a sudden done. If one would ask me why I had any measure of success, I would tell you it's because of curiosity. Now, success doesn't come without hardware, doesn't come in without smarts, it doesn't come without dedication, and it doesn't come without drive. And there are many ways to talk about drive. One of them is seeking perfection. I've often said that good is the enemy of great. Settling for good you don't get great.

Settling for great you don't get perfection. You should try for perfection and settle for great. This is life we live in. I've always wanted perfection. I've always wanted and always realized that it's just out of my grasp. There are certain things that you could perfect. I've been on the radio for seven years now. Some shows were amazing, not perfect, but amazing. Should I be unhappy with them? Absolutely not. Some shows were great and had nothing about

them perfect. I have to live with it. I have to understand that that's where life is. But I strive for great and I want perfection in everything I do. The other night I had dinner and one of my favorite restaurants. The food was extraordinary, the service was extraordinary. While I was still eating, they put the check on the table that ruine perfection. What are you rushing me? What are you thinking? I should tell you. At the

same time, I was still having my appetize. They serve the main course that is not perfection and they could have had it because the meal was exemplary and the people there exemplary. I want perfection and I notice when it's not there. In the end, I'm not looking for perfect, just perfect for me. And before I go, I just give you one thing to think about because of this frustration that we all find trying to be bigger than life. Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what

you get. Good Night,

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