This show is produced and hosted by Mark Webber. The show is sponsored by G three of Peril. The views expressed in the following program are those of the sponsor and not necessarily the opinion of sevent ten wo R or iHeartMedia. Who is Mark Webber. He's a self made business executive here to help you find your success. From the New York City projects to the Avenue Montaigne in Paris. His global success story in the luxury world of fashion is inspiration off.
He's gone from clerk to CEO twice. Mark is classic proof that the American dream is alive. And well, here's your host of Always in Fashion, Mark Webber. Mark Webber. It's not easy being honest. Let's face it. There's just too many temptations. But what choice do you have? I, for one, I'm Dudley, do right. I can't do anything wrong. I've got to live with myself. I got to be able to sleep at night. But fast money, fast solutions, cutting corners. You
can never underestimate the other guy's greed, big egos, big plans. The rules don't apply, you think to you, but we've all thought it. The problem with thinking you can get away with the lies, no one will no worse. You know, you know when you've been compromised, your innocence is lost forever. Honesty is a reward unto itself, a gift you give yourself. The value of putting your head on the pillow at night and seeping soundly is priceless. Not having to remember two stories, the lie and the
truth. There's also a pressure you don't need in your life. They are no secrets among people. Once you're compromised, it's a life sentence. Doing the right thing when no one's looking is a definition of honesty. It's really simple, but incredibly hard. It must be because we're surrounded by so many people who are lying and doing the wrong things. It must be impossible. Considering the state of affairs in our country now, I have to admit I'm
sick to my stomach. I'm depressed listening and watching the government tear itself apart. We have a front row seage watching our politicians use our legal system to ruin each other and destroy our credibility as a nation. And if you could say it even worse, the rest of the world is watching. Our allies are praying for us to get our act together. Our enemies are salivating at our self in both stupidity. Napoleon was famous for saying, never interrupt your
enemy while he's making mistakes. The news cycles move so rapidly, Yeah, he's a liar. Then you move on to the next conversation. How many people we've caught lying in politics? And just move on forget it? But the next day is here? Every day? What's going on here? Is it okay to lie? When did lying become okay? The president lied this week? I heard one commentators say, a small one. That's not a legal basis for impeachment, just a lie. It's okay for the president to
lie to us. I subscribe to governments having the right to manage. Okay, everything's not our business. They could share with us what they want to share, leave out any facts they don't feel we need to know if they're aliens out there and they don't think we should know, so be it. That's their business. They don't tell us the whole story of COVID. They're trying to protect us their business. But when you're lying, when the president
stands up and lies, that doesn't work. He loses integrity, You lose, We all lose. Business is the same Company's not a democracy. You don't get to vote what goes on. CEO is not obligated to tell you what he's doing and why. The managers they make decisions. Not everything's your business. Nowhere does it say you have to share every detail when they are the boss. Though, you need to be honest. You'll lose that honesty you go down with the ship. You shake hands with your customers, for
example, you have to honor your agreement. Lose that, you lose it all. Yeah, I'm a bit of a boy scout. I get it. Tony montana Escoff. They say all I have is and my word. I don't break them from no one. My word is my bond. I'll honor what I say. I expect you to do the same. That's what makes business worth while. That's why you can trust people. No one does
business with people they can't count on to honor their agreements. It's overt We act with integrity, it's often stated, but if not, it's expected. You go to a store, you know if you don't like what you buy, you could return it. The key to online shopping is the ability to return things and get a refund. Restaurants we promise our food is healthy.
Cars we promise they're safe and reliable. You buy a stock from the stock market, you're protected that the CEO and CFO statements and reporting adhere to a standard of honesty and integrity. And then the government, the laws, the rules, the statutes, the controls, the president, you can count on them. And yet the former president of the United States and the President of the United States are both compromised. They're both under scrutiny, one indicted and
the other under the threat of impeachment. It's a mess. It used to be back in the day, as it said you needed to be squeaky clean. Not anymore. But I say even the appearance of impropriety is a problem, and even the appearance of improprietors the standard we can't seem to maintain inappropriate. Knot what to do or not happy about it or not. After tonight, no more politics for me, but I feel compelled to talk about honesty and integrity and living a simple life. Now joining me on a search for
truth, justice and the American way. My lawyer, my co host, my son Jesse Weber, sounded like Superman right there. Yeah, little plagiarism, that's where it's from very good. Well, when you talk about politics, I think everybody knows what I do every day. Hey, wait a minute, Wait a minute before we give a serious answer. You quote me on the American way, But what about never underestimate the other guy's greed? Where is that from? That's from scarface? Okay, I just thought i'd
bring it up, although he said it a little bit different. Never underestimate the omaguist greed. No, it was funny because I was listening to you talk about politics, and I thought that I saw the worst As the host of the Long Crime Network. I thought I had a front row seat to the nasty, true crime, the dark side of this world. I was wrong. American politics is worse. It's worse now than I think it's ever been, and so we have to thank the American legal system for holding us
together a little bit. Right, Really, that's your position. I could argue that the legal system has been weaponized. It's like second Avenue. It's one way right now. Well, if we're going to have the conversation, you have to decide if you want to discuss this the way things are or the way things look, because that's two different things. That's fair you've got to be the smart one he had. But you have to grant me their often perception is reality. Well, then you have to grant me that the
law is different than the court of public opinion. Now perfect, This is brilliant, the truth versus perception. That's the way they'll draw all the lines tonight. And why don't we start right out with politics and get it out of the way. Donald Trump, Donald Trump has hated but as policies, America first, peace, negotiated trade agreements to get a fair shot for America. He provided prosperity for all of us. There's no inflation. He controlled
the border. He took a hard stance with our allies and NATO and said, you want us to help you, you have to help us, and you have to pay you a fair share. He had to stare down with China and made them promise to do the right thing. And where is Donald Trump? What happened to him? He never got a fast shape. His
election was tampered with for three years. He suffered through Russia collusion. Then he got him peach for the exact things that Biden did, and he didn't Who could blame him for feeling he was cheated out of his presidency, the whole idea that everything was rigged. It's amazing, and here he is being hounded for everything and what did he do? Okay, well, first, let me just do a little disclaimer here. Number one. I hate to
see the former president indicted, let alone indicted for a third time. I think it's terrible for the country. And I think it's terrible when you even talk about him peaching Biden. That's not something I want to see. I'd rather go back to the real issues, the real debate. I think it's really ugly to see it. Okay, I don't think it's good for the country. Now. Having said that, I hear everything you just said, but that doesn't give former President Donald Trump the license to just do whatever it
is he wanted to do. And what he is accused of doing in this latest indictment is really really bad. It's really bad. Did you read this? Of course not? Well, where would you like me to start? Would you like me to give you a quick synopsis of what it's about.
I want you to convince the audience that he deserves to be on trial because I think he'd done some of the greatest things I could ever Remember, a president doing policy is policy, but in terms of whether or not he did something illegal, even if you're the best president, you still can't break the law. Now, I'm glad the way that you phrased it. You didn't say convince everybody that he should be convicted. You said convince everybody that there
should be a trial. Okay, this is a prosecutor. I'm talking about Jack Smith, who has prosecuted some major cases. He is not a diehard lefty. Hey wait a minute, he's got a bad beard. I don't trust him right away, bad beard decide. Okay, this was an investing that was going on for a long time, and they brought in a number of witnesses. They had former Vice president Mike Pence testify in front of this grand jury. And I heard Pence say it one day that he didn't think
these were criminal activities. Okay. Pence was careful because he didn't want to go on the bad side of Trump. He didn't want to lose Trump's base. But he testified in front of a grand jury. He's not gonna lie under oath. He said that Trump and the co conspirators of Trump who haven't been named, but we can guess who they are. They basically pressured him to illegally intervene in the electoral process, to basically stop the certification process where
Congress gets all of the electoral votes and they take those votes. They tallily him up. It's going to be Biden. Who's the rightful winner. These said that Trump wanted him to illegally intervene and stop the process even though there was no actual evidence of election fraud nothing. Well, let me ask or did he leely intervene? Or he asked if it was possible to slow up
the process because he believed what was done was illegal. When Penn said him, listen, mister president, I don't have the authority to do that, Trump came back allegedly and said, you're too honest. Then this whole fake electors scheme. So the idea was that Trump and his co conspirators, this is the accusation, they were going to put aside the electors that were supposed to vote for Biden and institute their own electors that they knew weren't legitimate.
This isn't talked about enough in the indictment. Pence says that when there was a discussion between him and Trump, about, well, we have two options here. One we could get these electors put in place and keep them on hold until we win our lawsuits, or we unilaterally use our electors and replace the Biden electors, which is totally illegal, and Trump allegedly said I prefer that option. So that signifies to me that Trump knew that this wasn't legitimate
or legal and wanted to do it anyway. But you're going to put him on trial for something he wanted to do that he didn't do. He's charged with conspiracy and obstruction. That doesn't necessarily mean you had to complete the act. It's the planning to do something. It's the attempt to get something done. So even though he didn't stop the election, the attempts that he allegedly engaged in, that's criminal enough. All right, let me ask you a
question. You don't think the government engages every single day and what ifs and would haves and could have should have ideas that may or may not be illegal, and they never put them in place. Trump had every right to speak to his advisers, to go on Twitter, to speak to the media and say this was a fake election. I wanted investigated. I don't believe that
I lost. He had every right to do that. But when he took actions like this elector scheme, or when he tried to get his own attorney general put in place to back this up, or when he tried to pressure state officials to change the votes, or when he tried to get Pence to step in, those are the actions that are criminal. There's one thing to just discuss it and try to investigate it and look into it. But it's when you take steps to actually change something and break the law. That's where
he got himself into trouble. Allegedly. Listen, he's got defenses. He'll go to trial, maybe a jury will side with him. Well, is that the toughest part of the case of the indictment. The toughest part is trying to get into Trump's mind. What did he intend to do? Now he'll say, I didn't care what anybody was telling me. I was listening to John Eastman and I was listening to Giuliani. These are the people that
I trusted. The problem with that is there's evidence to suggest he didn't even believe them, and he knew that this was all false, but he was just trying to stay in power. Now he'll also say I never was a part of this plan. My attorneys were just doing things on their own, or I never thought about fake electors. I just had them in place in case I want to a lawsuit. Again, the problem is that wasn't what he really intended. So it's going to be up to a jury to decide
what was his intent. He believed that the Tree had an illegal election. He believed that the people didn't get Bill Will. He could believe it. He could file every kind of lawsuit that he wants. He did, he kept losing. He can investigate nothing came out of it, but you can't take steps to take matters into your own hands and try to take the election back. That's the problem, the appearance of improprieties. What's going on here?
It doesn't seem even handed. Joe Biden fired the prosecutor from Barisma. No, needn't fire prosecutor from Barisma. He've tried to get the prosecutor from Ukraine fired because he was investigating Barizma. Sorry, he wasn't investigating. Look, I agree with you. The title of this show is perfect for Biden because when you talk about was Biden corrupt? Was Biden on the take.
There's no concrete evidence, but the appearance of it. After this guy, Devin Archer testified and said that who had worked with Hunter Biden and said the Hunter put Joe on the phone over twenty times, said he didn't discuss any actual business with his son, wasn't part of any of the deals. It's not going to satisfy a lot of people. They're gonna think looks like Joe Biden wasn't being honest and it looks like Joe Biden was a part of this.
Well, that Joe Biden narrative went from I've never had a conversation with my son about his business matters, and he ran on that when he was challenged when he was running for election to now, I never signed any deals or I never did business with any of Hunter Biden's associates. Those are two very different things. All of a sudden, that seems like a straight out lie, and that's okay. Well, politicians lie all the time. Biden lies, Trump lies, everybody lies. It's just a question of whether or
not that lie is illegal or impeachable. Look, I believe that he was his presidency was taken away from him under nonsense. I think starting with the FISA warrant, that it's been proven they all did it, they knew it was a lie, that Hillary's camp did it, That nothing has ever been done. The fact that Hillary Clinton burnt thirty three thousand emails and Trump is
being indicted for what happened in Marrow lago. This entire behavior about Biden, the entire behavior about everyone, certainly makes it look like the scale of justice is not even on both hands, and it is really ugly. I don't know about that Hunter Biden. We found out last week he's still being investigated by the FEDS. Look, nobody cares about Hunter Biden. You know,
I care more about him. Adam shifts, standing up and rereading the letter, writing in his own way to prove that Trump did an illegal phone call with the Ukrainians. It adds up to a country who's in a mess right now. And the whole thing stems from lack of trust, lack of respect, lack of dignity, lack of integrity, lack and lack and lack. I see no good things coming out of any of this. And the truth
is what everyone forgot. The problem with the election in twenty twenty, it was all done by mail the problem him as no one was used to one hundred and seventy million people voting and it changed everything, and everyone seems to have forgotten. It used to be how to get up the morning of the election, go in and wait online, put your vote in place, and go to work or do whatever you're going to do. And now they made it from the ease of home and it changed the dynamic and everyone is confused.
And that is the biggest issue facing our electorate. What was the impact of mail in voting? In my view? Now I go back to Trump so we can close this out. Is this a good case against him? And is it fair that it's going on? Is it fair that it's going on? As I said, I don't want a president being charged. I don't like it. But having said it, taking all the allegations in this indictment is true, it's really bad for him. I actually think if this
went to trial, I'd like to see what the defense is. There is a strong chance he'd be convicted. I think that with Marlago he probably has less of a defense, and that's a bad case too. I don't think New York should have been brought I think that's a weak case. But this is not good for Trump, I'll tell you that much. Is there any chance it won't go to trial. There's always a chance it won't go to trial. There's always something that could blow it up. Having said that,
it also becomes a question of when it goes to trial. Why do I say that I don't think this is going to happen. This trial is going to happen before the election. And if he becomes president and this trial hasn't started yet, there is talk that he would get his Justice Department to drop the case against him. There's also talk that if he gets convicted and he becomes president, he'll pardon himself. There's a lot of moving factors right now,
in a lot of uncertainty. This is a mess. As the middle of the road guy or a guy who has les left for social issues right for hardcore. It doesn't seem fair to me. Who cares what he did? He wasn't successful doing any of this crap. What's the point? It didn't happen? Everything worked itself out for the good, maybe because cool heads prevailed and people with integrity did what they was supposed to do and nothing happened by it other than they ruined his presidency while he was there, and he
has made the country miserable ever since he lost. I say, chuck it, move on and let's find out if our current president has done anything wrong. Let's take a break, we come back. I want to discuss the fact that even the appearance of impropriety is a problem always in fashion. As one of the world's most celebrated fashion designers, Carlagafeld was renowned for his aspirational and cutting edge approach to style. His unique vision of Parisian ship comes to
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Talk to you later, guys. I wish you are very happy spring in summer, and I help you by telling you if you wear Eyesode, you're gonna look great. Welcome back to Always in Fashion. Here's your host, Mark Webber. Even the appearance of impropriety is a problem in our society. That's a fancy way of saying that perception could often be the reality. Our
country's a mess right now. A former president is under indictment. Current president we're thinking about impeaching him, which by the way, is not new, and I want it, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Once you started peaching one side, the other start impeaching. We'll ever get out of this. Every time someone does something a little off color, boom, we have a problem. I'm sick of it. I don't even want to talk about this anymore except to say that be careful what you wish for the
world is not second aven. You're running one way. Just you think we're gonna have to get back to normal. I think when aliens attack us and we all become united, that's probably when we'll all go back to normal. I mean, did you see during those UFO hearings that both Republicans and Democrats, it was like a bipartisan issue. They were all interested in what was happening there about UFO transparency. It takes something like that for us to be
unified and normal. It's not normal to have public hearings on a subject like that. They should sit in a private room and be told what's going on, or a select group of people should be told what's going on. It's not our business. I don't want to know until they're ready to tell me, until they have super weapons that can take care of those aliens, or if you need to, or if they're nice guys. Okay, but I don't want to know about it now. It's not giving away our secrets as
of yet. It's not saying if they're aliens or not. It's just saying there's something up there. There are certain things that may or may not be our business. You know, you're a married guy. Now, you can't tell your wife everything that somebody says. I would tell her about aliens. I just think they should decide what they want to do and do it. I don't think in life and business and politics government, you have to tell
everybody everything. Now, if it's getting to a point that they can't hide it anymore, and sooner or later these guys are going to be walking down Fifth Avenue, then you might be at the point where you have to say something. But short of that, I don't need to know everything. I don't need to know everything. And it's a problem telling everyone because most people
is stupid. And speaking about stupidity, Tonight's show is about honesty and integrity, and I want to talk about the idea of business and whether or not the appearance of impropriety is a problem. I always a street kid. I grew up in Brooklyn. I thought I was smart. I thought I was aware of what was going on around me. When I got to the business
world, I realized how naive I really was. I've considered it an un earth that I've grown up in corporate America now and I could speak with authority on how things work, what obligations we have as corporate office to share information, the threat of jail for not sharing information accurately or lying about corporate company's behaviors. I mean, those are scary things, and whether out of act of fear and this self preservation or doing the right thing, public companies have
to behave a certain way. But I was always naive enough. Forget. When I was a young guy and I met your mom. Her father was in business, and I had a vision of working for him. You know, I grew up humble beginnings, and he had this big, successful manufacturing business. I always envisioned maybe getting a shot that way. You know, how else was I going to be successful. I had no plans, I had no confidence, and Mommy always said to me right away, you will
never be in my father's business. So when I decided that I wanted to marry mommy, and when I went to talk to her parents, I said, sir, ma'am, I'm in love with your daughter and i'd like to marry her. I would like your blessing. And they said absolutely, Mark, I love you. You're a great guy and great now I could sell my business, and Mommy was right. I never had a shot, thank god, because I turned out to be pretty good in doing this. But
why am I even mentioning this. I'm mentioning it because my father in law, when he said he wanted to sell his business, he said something that I'll never forget, and it was the strangest thing I ever ever heard. He says, I want to sell my business because I can't deal with the buyers anymore telling me what I have to give them. I said, what do you mean? Said they come to me before Christmas and tell me what I have to buy them radio, TV, special systems, And he just
wanted no part of that. And it was my first experience with dishonesty in business, at least hearing it and started to make me wonder. And as I joined Public America again, I was very naive and I really didn't wrongdoing going on. But I have to think back and ask myself whether or not I just was naive. I remember, after a very long time of my company chasing Sears, we had never done business with Sears. Ever, our
major competitor was a Sears supplier. Anytime they wanted shirts with a branded named Sears would buy their brand. They would never entertain our brand, and over the course of time we tried so hard to meet sears, and at one particular time we got an appointment with either the buyer, the Ben's merchandise manager, the general manager. He agreed to come to our offices and he said, I'll have a meeting, but I want a small meeting. Never thought
twice of it. During the course of the meeting, I pitched him on buying the van using brand and he listened patiently. I gave Hi all the reasons why he should have alternatives to other brands, what made our company special, what made our brand special, and I'll not forget. He looked at me and he said, Mark, do you know two rows, four shelves, small, medium lodge, extra lodge could make or break a person's career. That if I agreed to give you two rows on four shelves, you're
talking about millions and millions and millions of dollars. What do I need you for? All these years later on the radio talking about that, I think back, and I wonder whether or not he was saying, you have to take care of me. If I'm going to give you those two rows and four shelves now, why, Because tonight I'm thinking about what's appropriate and inappropriate
in the appearance of impropriety. He never said anything outright, but maybe someone else who was and as Dudley do right as me, someone who didn't understand anything, maybe someone who did understand the laws of the world might have understood that he was sending a signal. So I've always been naive about this, and I always knew there was a way to behave I always knew, very very clearly. I used to do this with Jesse and my other son, JAREDY used to sit on the chair. I would spread my legs, I
would draw an imaginary line between my two legs. I would pat one knee and say, I don't know if this leg is being promoted tomorrow, or I pat the other leg and I'd say, I don't know whether this leg is being fired. I don't own this chair that I sit in, and because of that, I am very careful. I'm very measured, and I think to a great deal about the way I behave when I'm in this seat and the things that I do. And that's not a bad lesson for anyone.
When you work for companies, you do not own that chair, and it's to remember that. And I always was very quiet about this. I talked about this in my book. It was called Pearls of Wisdom. I as a young man, We're doing major million dollar deals. What made it unique was not only did I figure out a system where I would travel the world and negotiate on behalf of my company by myself. There were often people from our foreign offices there, but I was the decision maker. I didn't
need sign off. If I wanted to do a deal for five million dollars, I could do a deal for five million dollars. I wanted to deal a deal for ten minutes, I didn't have to sign off. And one in particular was with a great Japanese trading company, one of, if not the largest Japanese trading company at the time. I did a deal with in Japan for ten million dollars worth of fabric. I basically put them in this
business. They had this idea for a cotton fabric that was permanent press, was a blend, and no one ever made these fabrics before they had just become available in the United States. They were very expensive, and here I'm in Japan looking to see whether or not I could have a version of this blended fabric seventy percent cotton, thirty percent polyus they could be permanent press.
And I found it that this Japanese trading company made the deal. They had at the time a US representative who always was in the meetings when I was there. So I was there Mark Webber with an Asian representative from my office in Asia, and they were there in Japan with an American representative, and they felt that I would be more comfortable dealing with an American as well as the Japanese. It didn't matter except he knew our customs. At the end
of the deal, it was amazing. I called back New York. I told him we did the deal. They were thrilled. We found a fabric we would be competitive. It's less expensive. That was in the United States, a huge deal. And I remember celebrating, go out to dinner, and I came back that night to my hotel room and the little light on my phone it was lit up. Called the operator mush you missay, mister
Webber, you have a package. Package comes up ten minutes later and there I see this incredible blue velvet package and I opened it up and inside it says Mickey Moto with white silk and in there is a beautiful Mickey Moto necklace, bracelet and earrings. Now I am naive and I have no idea what this is, but I know Mickey Moto pearls are worth a fortune. At that time, I've got to say that thing was worth at least twenty five
thousand dollars, maybe one hundred thousand dollars for all I know. And in it it's a card and the card is from the company I did to deal with that day and said, thank you, mister Webber, we appreciated I hope you find this a beautiful gift to give to your wife. The American signs his name on the company letterhead. Even though I was willing, if I knew this was a problem, I'd just been given a gift I shouldn't been given. Was it a bribe? No, because I already did the
deal. But should I be receiving gifts for deals? Even though it was innocent? I did nothing, already made the deal. Could you imagine the look of impropriety if someone would find out I accepted Mickey Moto pearls ruined my life. I called immediately the guy from New York. I had his card, and I said to him, the American. I said, what is this? He says, oh, we just wondered if they thank you. It's a Japanese way they give gifts. What are you doing here? How
could you possibly send this to me? You crazy? I can't accept this, he said, Mark, We're in Japan. What do you care. I said, you listen to me. I am not accepting this. I'm going down to the front desk and taking this package, having them wrap it up, and I'm going to leave it, and I'm putting your name on it because I will never touch it again. He said, Mark, you don't have to do that. So you listen to me. You're American.
You should know that this is compromised that I refused to get involved with. I go back to my room. I called the president of my company. I said, I need to alert you to something. I don't want to have any misunderstanding. I went out after the deal with the people from the company and I was thrilled. We had a nice dinner. I came back to my room. I noticed my message light on. I called it. There was a package for me that we delivered the package to my room and
it was a set of Mickey Motive pearls. I don't know. It's a bracelet and necklace and earrings. It's got to be worth tens of thousands of dollars. It's incredible, and I wanted you to know that I've rejected it. I've returned it. I don't want any record whatsoever, anybody even thinking for a minute that I would accept a gift on behalf of the work that I have done. And he was quiet for a second, and he said, Mark, when it comes to you, there would never be any confusion.
We know who you are, we trust you emphatically, and you calling us was the right think to do. I appreciate it. I appreciate your actions, and don't worry. We've got your back. Can you imagine if I accepted this. Could you imagine the next time I'm in Japan and I'm negotiating with five different trading companies for a particular item, and these guys walking into me reminding me that they gave me those pearls. Can you imagine what
it would feel like having to give them the business because I'm compromised. How many people do you think actually would have recognized the problem there, and how many people you think would take it I would answer you this way, that foreign governments focus their entire recruiting business by trying to compromise people with women, with gifts, with behavior. This is their business, spy agencies finding people that they can compromise. Maybe I saw too many movies, Maybe the fact
that I have parents who chought me right from wrong. Maybe the fact that I was married to a woman who didn't take any nonsense and always knew what was right wrong. And maybe I was just a good guy. Whatever the case may be, I knew that I could not compromise myself. I could not put a life sentence on myself that these guys would own me. The answer to your question one, I have no idea how many people would behave that way. Two, I pity the ones who have taken the pearls.
And three maybe by listening to me to this story tonight, you'll know better. By the way, in Final Annalysis, the American from the company called me the next day, asked to see me and sat with him. He came to meet me in the lobby. I was having a Japanese tea and he said, look, I have to apologize. It's my mistake. I should have never approached you with the gift. We didn't need anything by it. The company only had good intentions. We appreciated by understand your position.
I apologize and thank you for returning it. All said and done, did the right thing, protected my future, protected my life, protected my honesty, integrity, because even the appearance of impropriety, there is a problem. I'll take a break. I'll be back in a minute. Always in Fashion spent a lifetime of my career building the van Usen brand, and I am so pleased that they're back with us now talking about suits, men, we're dressing up again, and it's become cool to wear a suit. Suits can
be one on multiple occasions, in multiple ways. You could wear a suit formally to go out at night or to an event, to wear a suit to the office with or without a tie. If you look closly. Now fashion trends, suits are being worn with turtlenecks or mocknecks. The choices are endless, and every one of them looks right. You could really really look the part. I believe that packaging yourself this is important. Does the products you package and wearing a suit is one of those things that make men look
their best. Then hasn't invented a new idea. It's called the cool Flex suit. It's been engineered with stretched technology, giving you the most comfortable fit and mobility. It's wrinkle resistant fabric, it's cool moisture wicking. It makes it perfect for all occasions. As we discussed just now, this new style of looking shop while feeling cool and comfortable is amazing, and I'm so excited that the van Using company is involved in this new technology and is embracing the
whole idea of dressing up. Let's not forget Vanus and made its name with dress shirts. It's only proper that the suit business follows strongly in its way. You can find Vanues in cool Flex Men's stretched suits at JC Penny are online at jcpenny dot com. Guys, they're great. You should go look at them. Welcome back to Always in Fashion. Here's your host, Mark Webber. Even the appearance of impropriety is a problem. That's another way of
saying. Perception is reality. And if you do wrong things, or even if you don't do wrong things, if it looks like you're doing wrong, it's a problem. Now, I grew up in corporate America. Thank God for that. I have always appreciated rules. Where would we be without rules in this world? Can you imagine? Now? Don't get me wrong,
I don't like being told what I can't do. Anytime you tell me something, no I can't do this or I can't do that, I'll do everything I can to figure out a way to solve that problem and get what I want. The choice in this world is to do the right thing or not, and my experience with public companies have always been do the right thing. I have a great story that has to do with watches. I'm a watch guy like watches, but that's not what this is about. I was working
at LVMH and LVMH so you know has their own watch division. Of course, if VITONE has their own watches, they own tag Hire, they own you Blow. But they also owned Zenith and I knew them because at one point Zenith was making all the chronographical movements for Rolex and I knew about it. So that's what I knew about Zenith. And when I joined the LVMH company, I went to see Zenith and I was disappointed because all the watches were gizmos. There too many stuff going on. It was all complex,
nothing simple. You couldn't buy a beautiful, simple watch from them, and I was taken aback by and I don't never forget. The managing director of LVMH happened to be in the United States. We are having a financial meeting on some of the companies I was running, and we got into a conversation about stuff. When you see lately, Mark, what's on your mind? I said, you know, it's interesting you say that. I have been with the Zenith team. I met with them in their offices. I went
to this store. It seems to me that everything's convoluted. They don't have any simple, beautiful, elegant watches and it's something you want to look at. He says, don't walk they have stuff, okay, jus test me and I told him. Boom. Fast forward three months later, managing director LVMH is back in New York by having our meeting. He thanks me for whatever, and it takes out a box from his briefcase and hands it to me and I said, what's this? He said, open it up.
I opened it up and it's a beautiful, elegant, detailed, simple, beautiful Zenith watch. Looks like it's worth a hundred thousand dollars, gorgeous watch, and he said, Mark management, the company appreciates what you're doing. We wanted to give you this as a president, and thank you for calling out the issues on Zenith. They do have some watches that are very simple, but not enough, and I appreciate your input. I took the watch and I brought it home. I had it fitted for myself and I started
wearing it to the office. It was gorgeous and to this day, I still wear it and I love it. I remember at the end of that year, I'm doing my taxes and I'm looking at all my W two forms and all my different tax things, and I noticed on the lumh W two there is eleven thousand dollars that I can't fathom what it is, and there was enough other charges for thousands of dollars that I can't get. And I called the Human Resource Department. I said, I got to check, and
I have these charges in I don't know what they are. Can you find out for me? And sure enough, the financial group called me back and they explained to me that the eleven thousand dollars was for the Zenith watch and the other charges were from the Tone and other divisions that I got product from. They wanted me to wear the products of the company, so they gave me a clothing allowance or a jewelry allowance. I am bag allowance, whatever it was, and I would use those things for myself and my wife.
I'd pay for it and they pay me back. Why is it on my W two phone? Because the way the tax laws work, they just can't give me gifts. They can't allow me to have products. It's income. So there I was getting all this stuff for free, and in the end it wasn't because it was taxable. But I did appreciate that. Again, I could put my head in a pillow at night and sleep because even the appearance of impropriety was taken care of by those guys, and I appreciate It'll
take a break back in a moment. Always in fashion. I've been shopping for fun lately, and while I'm out, I always look at men's and I look at women's. What's going on? And I was particularly interested in Decay and Why because of their sponsorship of the show. I went downstairs at Macy's thirty fourth Street to look around, and I saw Decay active where and I promise you, ladies. It is sensational, from the sports braus to the crop tops, to the leggings and the sweats. It really is a
great look. And Decay Andy had begun as an all American brand dressing casual clothes engines, and the stuff looks incredible and right now the colors and the styles is so siding that I feel great about the company. I always do. I wear the men's wear all the time. I've had situations where I've gone to big events and been interviewed in TV or the radio, and someone comes up to me in the microphone and like they always do, who you
wearing? And here I am, this big shot with big company and they said, well, I'm wearing a DKNY and they laugh and say, no, you're not. Actually have one on the internet where you could see me. They asked me what suit I'm wearing, and I say dec and Y and opened it up and there's the DCNY label. Great fashion, It fits well, it looks right. It's designed to make you comfortable in the city, goes from day and to night. You can wear it in the morning
and wear in the afternoon and you look cool at night as well. It's great for the office as great Felisia. But I was talking about the dcmy active ware. The first time I really became aware of that. Jesse and I were up at Sirius Radio. He was doing a job for Sirious. He does Dan Abrams show, he fills in on the Potus Network, and we're in the lobby and this hip hop group came up. Well, this really great looking Latino singer girl young, beautiful, and she's wearing a dkm
Y sports bar and I said to myself, this is amazing. Actually went to Macy's to see it, and I'm excited about the brand. And I'll tell you why. Ladies. Dk Y always has great fashion for work, always wonderful dresses and things that you'd wear. Their accessories are great, the shoes are always very cool. But activewear in particular right now looks sensational. And being that everyone's affleisure in activewear, it's a great time DCMY go take
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more than that. I love to shop. I love going around and seeing what's happening and what catches my attention, what would make me feel good to wear now. I don't wear the women's wear obviously, but I can appreciate it and may look amazing. If you want to look right, you want to have clothes that fits you well. You want to look like you're wearing something that's very expensive, that's exclusive for you and yours. You can find
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host, Mark webber tonight's show. Is even the appearance of impropriety, even just looking like you did something wrong is bid in public life. Jesse, I'm going to give you the last word. I am a fan of Donald Trump. I feel that his policies helped the country. I believe that he's being unfairly targeted and attacked. I believe the government is acting unilaterally against Trump and doesn't deal with other people in the same fair way. Please tell me
where I'm wrong. This isn't about his policies. And I know they say it's a two tiered system and that Biden's getting favorable treatment and Trump is not. It's two different cases, two different situations, and you have to look at each one specifically. Look, we'll see what happens with his legal cases. It looks like he's about to be hit with a fourth indictment. People are going to look at this and say, of course it's political, that's what it looks like. But I'm a lawyer, and I look at each
fact. I look at each case, and I'm going to see how it goes. And legally speaking, it doesn't look great for him. But we know that there's a lot of time between now in the election, and my advice to everyone stop listening to the noise on the left and the right. Follow the law, Trust the law. That's what we have to do. And with that, I would say to you, this is Mark Webber, no more politics for me. I can't take it anymore. I have to
be able to sleep at night. I'll deal with other human mutants. Speaking of which, I saw Oppenheimer great, great movie that I didn't enjoy that's the best rating in that movie you're ever going to get. It was an amazing, well crafted movie. I didn't enjoy any of it. Was it because of the subject matter? Was it because of the way they were talking and how it was all over the place? What was it? No?
I didn't think anything was all over the place. What it was was a deep rooted study in human nature and I don't particularly like humans, and it only reinforced it with that as a backdrop. It's great being with you, Jess, great being with you. Thank you. Unfortunately, a lot of inappropriate stuff going on right now. With that, good night, We'll talk to you soon.