This show is produced and hosted by Mark Webber. The show is sponsored by G three of Paro. The views expressed in the following program are those of the sponsor and not necessarily the opinion of seven ten wor or iHeartMedia. Who is Mark Weber. He's a self made business executive here to help you find your success from the New York City projects to the Avenue Montaigne in Paris. His global success story in the luxury world of fashion is inspirational. He's gone
from clerk to CEO twice. Mark is classic proof that the American dream is alive. And well, here's your host of Always in Fashion, Mark Weber. Mark Weber. There are a lot of angry people out there. I shouldn't be surprised. We shouldn't be surprised. Nothing is easy. No one agrees on anything, not just off politicians who represent us, but us. No agreements and principle on anything. It seems to be okay. Four dollars a gallon, five dollars a gallon of gas, and no one's complaining.
It's okay. Climate change is not okay. It's okay. Our president is either feeble or is being disrespected and positioned as such. It's okay that our vice president has the lowest political rating of any forever. Some might say it's embarrassing. Some might say nothing. It's okay. Inflation is there and either accepted or by the same sum denied. Are these the same people? It's okay that people say anything, and it's okay. It's okay that not only
certain people have lost faith with the Supreme Court and voice it. We now hear Americans pastime. Every weekend football judges are throwing games. These things were never said before, let alone challenged. Disrespect is rampant. Everywhere I go, from the post office to Costco, you hear people arguing. There's more frustration at the workplace. Why do I have to be there? Why can't I work remotely? The supply side problems still exists. We're all waiting for
deliveries, waiting for replacement parts. Everything is taking forever. A lot of angry calls, lots of raised voices, road rage every day, all hyped up, nowhere to go. We've all sat through business meetings. They get heated, voices get angry louder. Does that prove anything when the voices get louder anything? Yeah, it does it proves that you shouldn't raise your voice, you should improve your argument. One of my standing beliefs is how you
package yourself is as important as the products you package. Speaking and how you present is one of the more critical tenets in life's successes, business successes, successful relationships. It's very easy to negotiate with yourself. Not so easy when someone else is involved. Believe it or not, they too have something to say. They have a point of view as well. Honing your argument, positioning your position, demonstrating respect and control, making your point. Never losing
your cool is key. Once you lose your cool, you lose if you haven't noticed or you can't tell I had a tough week and tonight I don't mind talking about it. I must admit my behavior is drawing mixed results from others, and I have to throw myself in there as well. I could do better. You would think I've learned. I spout the wisdom of Webb's laws. The only argument I ever want to get into is when the other
person is in an indefensible position, yet I'm arguing another Weberism. Behind anyone vision, they're fifty well intentioned people undermining that vision, and yet I'm being undermined and losing my cool, and of course high on my raateus screen is Albert Einstein's definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. Frustration equals louder, and yet here I am. I had a tough week. Maybe I should read my rules more closely and clearly. Don't
raise my voice to improve my argument. Yeah, we've all been in those debates watching people raise their voices to argument levels. In fact, you're better off avoiding or rescheduling it if you can't control your narrative. Anyway, I don't mind talking. I have to be more careful what I say and how I say it. That was my week, How about yours. I have an announcement to make. I've been angry with some people for quite some time, for a few months now, and all of a sudden, I'm not
I'm thinking, I'm far a scump. I'm running, running, running, And then he stopped and he was over it, just like me. I'm over it, and I don't mind talking. Speaking of which, my lawyer, my son, my co hosts, speaking softly but carrying a big stick, Jesse Weber, Hey, well, a week off, I know you weren't feeling well last week. We ran a repeat show, and in that week off you've matured. You're forgiving your new man look at you? Yeah
you think so? Okay? What is speaking softly but carrying a big stick? Stand for it means you have a lot behind you, but you don't underestimate you. Okay. You know who's famous for saying it? The rock? Oh swell, all that education, all that lord for that? Give me a break. Who said it? Teddy Roosevelt? Yeah? Where were you when they gave out history during law school? Sorry? I wasn't around at World War two? Teddy Roosevelt was World War One? Sorry I wasn't
around during World War One? And this is a college education? Great? Yeah, no, I'm happy to be back. I don't like when we take the week off, but you weren't feeling well, so I hopefully everybody understood that it was a repeat show. Funny you mentioned that, because it's one of the things that really pissed me off this week. I took keat from a number of Lysses for not doing a new show. That's a good thing. People want more, they want new. I wouldn't take that personally.
I take it personally, I don't understand why. I know we're competing for people's time, and if you think about it, what we're doing is impossible. We're up against Joe Rogan. He's an amazing guy, but of a lot of his shows, unless you want to talk about mixed martial arts, it's him skipping your topic. He's not there every time. It's fair, but we are something different. Like if you said to me, we're a news podcast. There's a million different news podcasts. How many father and
son lifestyle shows are there out there? We're a little bit different. Yeah, I get it. So why people complaining when I'm not in You know? I listened to con O'Brien needs a Friend now. He's an amazingly funny, successful guy. He's got a show with all the sidekicks, everything built in, all the financial support that you would need to have your own show on podcasts. But I listened to him and it's painful. The last one I listened to we had Liam Neeson on. I turned on to hear about
him being an action hero. The whole show was about how lucky Conan is to have known him when he was younger. It's unlistenable and yet it's still competition for your ears. You know, I think about this a lot of times. We talk about the show. Every time we finish the show. What's the number one thing you say to me? Said? What did you think? How was it? Not? Every show can be great. Doesn't take away the quality of who you are, doesn't take away the quality of
the show in general. So we have shows that we like, we have shows that we do more than others. It is what it is. Well, I'm just pissed off that people are giving me grief and not feeling well and not being able to record. And then on top of it, I'm thinking, look who we're up against, and we're doing something that's competitive, and I have to justify why I'm not on the air because I'm sick. It's a good thing. You want to be in high demand. Would you
rather you take the week off and nobody pays attention and nobody cares. You're one hundred percent right in that regard. But anyway, that's part of what I was angry at this week. All Right, are you done? Are you about finished up with this nonsense? Yeah, I'll move on. Anyway, it was a busy week for you. I noticed you were on News Nation every day. You did a serious show. What'd you cover? Covered
a few things. I think the biggest thing I covered was Donald Trump and Ivanka Trump on the stand in their fraud trial, and I thought it was fascinating. One of the times I always say I want cameras in every courtroom. Wouldn't have been great to watch that testimony live, but we read about it. Look, I think it'd have to be clear what this trial is about. Donald Trump is not trying to win this lawsuit. He knows he's gonna lose. This judge has already ruled against him in a very severe way
in the first part of the case. So he doesn't think he's gonna change this judge's mind with respect to the other claims in this lawsuit. How do you lose a lawsuit but from a judge before you even have your day in court? How could that be? In the law, there's something called summary judgment. The judge looked at this and he said, the first part of the government's cases is that Donald Trump, his son's company all engaged in fraud
over the years. And he looked at all the financial documents and he said, as a matter of law, this was fraud. These statements were misleading, they were inaccurate. So he automatically said that Trump and his team engaged in fraud. They filed taxes, they submitted all these documents, They took loans, they paid them back, they operated a business. Over all the years, and all of these years, no one ever once said it was fraud, and now all of a sudden, a judge I don't know where,
comes in and goes backwards and says everything's illegal. Look, the judge made it very clear that it's not about whether there was a victim in this case. The deals could have been successful, the banks could have been happy. But if Donald Trump was inflating his assets and getting terms and loan terms that he shouldn't have gotten otherwise, that's the problem. It's creating an equal
playing field. And by the way, the government also called an expert who said that I think it was one hundred and sixty million dollars worth of interest was lost as a result of these fraudulent statements. And did Trump's team get a chance to call in their own experts and refute this stuff or no, it was already decided. That is a great question. So in any trial like this. The government goes first, Trump's going to have an opportunity to
present his defense. However, what complicates this is Donald Trump wants to call a number of experts in to say this wasn't fraud. We didn't inflate our assets, reason that we valued them the way they are. But the judge has already said that issue has been decided, and the government saying, you can't call any of these experts. How could they do that because the judge already ruled in that first part of the case that this was fraud. What
the second part of this case is and what's currently being decided. Was there a conspiracy? Was there insurance fraud? Was there a falsification of the business records? These kind of issues of intent to defraud? Did Donald Trump and did this judge factor in the value of the luxury named Trump in the real estate numbers that were put in Donald Trump when he was on the stand, he goes, listen, you look at these financial statements. The value could
have been even higher. I didn't put in the brand value. So it doesn't seem to me that that is something the judge considered, which maybe in appeals court would consider. You know, I Just for the record, I used to work for vetone. Anybody knows if I didn't work for dntone, it didn't matter. When you look at the most famous les vetone hands. If you would take that handbag and put my name on it instead of LV, and you put MW on that my handbag, that handbag would probably sell
for ninety nine dollars. Put the LV logo on and it's two thousand dollars. So when you put the luxury logo of Trump on the face of a building before all this craziness began, and to this point, for those who are still Trump fans, you go to a Donald Trump golf course, there's something different than most of the other golf courses. And where's that all fact
it in? You make a good point. I've heard real estate experts say the judge saying that the value of Mara a Lago is eighteen million dollars is kind of ludicrous. They took it off of an appraiser's value. But an appraiser's value is very different than the market value of the property. So I think there's a possibility that an appeals court could look at this and say the judge was wrong. All right, So that's what's going on. What's what
happens next to the trial with Trump. So right now, Donald Trump's gonna have an opportunity to put on his defense, whatever that might look like. Again, a number of his arguments, even when he was on the stand, were already rejected by the judge. So we'll see him put on a case and then the judge, there's no jury, the judge will decide their
case. The judge will decide if Donald Trump and his company are liable, how much they have to pay out, and whether or not he can continue to run his businesses, whether they'll be put in receivership, whether someone else will control them. Look, you asked me, I think he's gonna lose, and I think he's gonna lose really badly, and it's not gonna be great, but he's gonna have the opportunity to appeal. Trump always had a mixed relationship in New York. By and large, it was more popular than
unpopular. After all, when he did The Apprentice, he was a rock star. Everybody loved him, admired him, got a kick out of him. Yes, he saved Wollman Rink. He did things that other people couldn't do. He had a more of a love relationship with New York than certainly a love Hey relationship. But he was respected and everything was good, and then he just to run for president. And I'll never forget I was his
licensed partner for shirts. We made all his apparel, and I had a series of other licenses who did neckwear in suits, and Trump Apparel was extraordinarily successful during his run an apprentice, he starts to run for office as president, and he makes the statement that the migrants coming in at the time, they were called the legal alliens, There were rapist murderers, they were the
worst kind of people coming from these cities. And right away everyone in the Hispanic community said he was racist and everything he said was wrong, and Macy's right then and there after he made that statement, dropped the whole thing and it was over and done with. And it turned out what he was saying, he didn't say it well, but he was saying there was a lot of bad stuff going on on those wagon trains of people coming here, and a lot of bad people were part of it. He didn't get a fair
chance. If Donald Trump after he won the presidency, was treated fairly, if he was treated like a president should be treated. If he wasn't so arguably and so voraciously hated, if the Democratic Party didn't invent the Russian hoax, if he had a chance to be president. He might have gone away when he lost the election. But he's getting another shot, and he's going at it again because he never was given a fair share at being the president.
Now, whether you'll like him or not, I've said this a thousand times, I'll say it again. I too have many things that he said and done out loud that I don't like. But he brought the country together. He found jobs for all the people, for every sector of the people were working, Real wages were going up. The country was at peace, there were no wars, we respected internationally. He was forcing or NATO partners to pay their fair share. He had an ongoing working relationship with China and
with Russia. What did he do wrong as the president. Nothing. By the way, I don't know if you quoted him or he quoted you, but he said something. I think it was the other day where he was like the media hates when I say this, but our leaders are so stupid the way they're talking about Putin and Kim Jong yun and President she from China. He goes, they hate when I say they're smart guys, but they are, and he goes us saying World War three. He goes, that's
not how you talk to these people. Didn't you say that argument? I've said it a million times. We should have no enemies. He might be quoting you. Maybe he listens to Always in Fashion. Well, he's in my book. He knows me, I know him. The point is, I'm sure he doesn't hear me, you know, and he probably tuned in the day I was away on feeling bad. But there's no question we should have never been at war in Ukraine. Never. It should have been worked
out. We shouldn't have instigated it. We should have understood exactly where Putin was coming from, and hundreds of thousands of people would not be dead, and if he was the president, they wouldn't. China has to be our friend. Hey, between us girls, they are a huge, huge, important part of the world, and they're getting more important. You don't fight with them, You make them your friend. If they're as good as I think they are and what they do, then you better be better at what
we do. They're not going away. This is crazy. Two most important countries besides ourselves, there two other superpowers. We decide we don't like them. How dumb is this? Look, it's not him saying that why he gets himself into trouble or people don't like him, it's all these other things that are really just so problematic that people ignore the good things that he does and the good things he could do for the country because a lot of its
surface level, and it's unfortunate the world was at peace. I have nothing else to say on this matter. When will this Trump thing be over this particular trial? Oh, that's a good question. I don't know how many witnesses he's gonna call. Could be a few. I imagine maybe another week, two weeks. We'll say, Okay, tonight, I don't mind talking. That's what we're going to do. We have a bunch of interesting topics to cover. Take a break and be back in a minute. And you'll
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I want to talk. I'm prepared to talk. I need to talk, and I don't mind talking. I don't mind talking about a bunch of things. But of all things, what I want to talk about now I want to be rich. Hey, Jesse, you want to be rich? Yeah? Of course, what are you talking about? Why it's funny you say that because I felt this for a long time and then I saw this on a so many different Instagram videos that really encapsulated what I was feeling. The
reason I would want to be very wealthy. Freedom, freedom to do what I want to do when I want to do it. That's what I'm want. And do you work to be rich? I don't work with the end goal. I just gotta make money and money and money. I work hard because I want to be successful, and with success comes money. That's what I want to talk about right now. What is it that's about rich that
we all want? And I suppose we all want to be rich and you don't need me to tell you why, but I suppose we all have different reasons. I came across an interview with Steve Jobs on a nineteen ninety six PBS documentary This is what you do in your spare time you watch thirty year old interviews? No, but it caught my attention. But do you think the show comes easy without research? Without things? What did you learn? Was it on VHS? Very funny? Now? But what I learned is
relevant for tonight's conversation. You want to be rich? I asked you why, and now I'm going to talk about it. Steve Jobs, They asked him, what does it feel like to be rich. And he was very introspective, and he said, when I was twenty three years old, I was worth a little over a million dollars. At twenty four years old, I was worth more than ten million dollars, and at twenty five years old,
I was worth a hundred million dollars. And he said, having money was about being able to pursue those things that I thought would change the world. I didn't work for the money. I never sold my shares. But I have to tell you I was enamored with the people I worked for. I loved the company that I was with, and I thought the things that were bringing to the human race were unbelievable, and that's why I worked. So I came across this article and I thought about did I want to be
rich? And the funny thing that I want to share with you, and I guess I want you guys to think about as I didn't work to get rich. I worked to be happy. I wanted to be proud of myself. More importantly, I wanted to set an example for my children, for my wife. I wanted them to look at me and be proud of what I accomplished. I wanted to rise above my peers. I looked across the boardroom tables, I looked in the meeting rooms. I watch people act.
I was in the showrooms, I was in sales meetings, And every time I had these meetings, I looked across at these people and I was impressed with them. But I believed I was better. I believed I was a better Maybe I believed I had something more to offer. So while I was working to accomplish these goals, it wasn't about money, because I thought money would come along for the ride. I didn't work to be rich. Now, when you think about it, somebody listened closely, you'd say, this
is stupid conversation. We all want to be rich, no kidding. But how do you get rich? That's a good question. Now. The obvious be smart, work hard, be excellent in what you do. Put yourself in a position to find success. But there are steps involved in getting rich, and I've thought about them while I was on my road. The first thing you really have to do is pay your bills. You have an apartment,
you have a car, you have food, whatever it is. Then as you go along, you want to be recognized, because as you're recognized, money is a means of keeping score. If you're being recognized for that which you're doing, you start to build a name for yourself, and the future starts to look brighter. And when you look across the desk, so many of the people you were behind, so many of the people that you are on an equal plane with, start to become people that work for you.
I worked because I wanted to be heard. I needed to be heard. I did not work for the money. Now, don't get me wrong. I fought for every single dollar. I never accepted the raises I was given. I always negotiated for every single penny, every single perk. Nobody gave me anything easy. I wanted it explain to me. I wanted if I didn't feel I was treated the way I should be, I wanted them to hear it from me. I never ever accepted it easily. But it's
not why I was working. I know that along the way, no one would ever give back money. No one would ever say I'm giving it too much. No one in a rich story is about the money. It's always about what they achieved. I was involved with products that I believed in, and if my name was associated with the product, I wanted that product to be special. I cared very much for the people I surrounded myself with. Well, let's face it, I always wasn't that important where I could pick
my own team. I worked with people who were given to me, but I wanted to make them better. I wanted us to be better. I wanted us to work well so we could achieve goals. And I always believed in the companies I worked for. I always believed when I looked across that table, that was part of a team of people who believed in a company and believed that we had tough competitors, and we believed that we can do better than our competitors. In my first job, I was a shirt guy.
I always wanted to have shirts that were more interesting, better made people look good and feel good, because fashion, that's what it does. Not only you feel comfortable in what you're wearing when you're wearing it, but it makes your mind feel comfortable because you know you look like, you know you fit in, you know you stand for something. In my days with Donna, Karen and DK and Y I worked for one reason only LVMH hired me.
They had three CEOs before I showed up the three CEOs were very capable guys, one of them with Warmer, chairman of Saxo Fifth Avenue. One was the CEO of Georgia Omani. One was an accomplished licensing attorney, really accomplished guys with track records, but they never made money for the company. I wanted to make money for the company. I wanted to show LVMH like in errors past, show my children, or from day one, show my
wife, that there was something about me that was worth investing in. I wanted to make money for them, and that's what drove me, and I knew that money would come along for the ride if I did write by the companies I worked for. Now having said this to you, you're not rich until you have money in the bank, how do you do that. There's only one way to be rich. It's to save and accumulate the money that you're paid. We can't all just do whatever we want and expect to get
rich. First of all, you have choices walking or writing. You could take an uper every where you go and you could save fifteen dollars every time you walk to way you have to go. You can think about where you eat. I remember my closest friend and I in business in the early days, ate in a restaurant called the Blarney Stone. Oh yeah. We were part of a big corporation. When their corporate events or corporate lunches, I eate in the finest restaurants in New York City, but left to my own
devices. When I had to eat lunch, I ate in the Blondey Stone. I had a sandwich. It costs nothing to eat their compared to those other restaurants. And then the question is how do you address I always had good taste. I always appreciated the best of the best. I love Georgia, o'moni. I love Ralph Lauren. But I also knew that you could buy suits in various different locations for one tenth the price. That if you get them tailored well and you look good in them, people will think you're
wearing Ralph Lauren or Georgia o'mony. If that's important to you, you have the right shirt, the right tie, the right outfit. Me it was navy suit, white shirt, navy tie, black tasseled loafers. It didn't matter who suit I was wearing. A shirt I was wearing, of course, it was my own. But was about saving money and understanding what you can afford. You could never ever become rich spending more than you could afford. My father in law may he rest in peace, always said to me,
Mark, make a dollar, save two. Let the money work for you. I want to be rich. Never ever, ever, ever can you become rich if you accumulate debt, and never ever ever. I've said it before, I'll say it again as a public service announcement. You should never ever ever have credit card debt. Credit card debt is the most expensive debt you can have. They charge you anywhere from sixteen to twenty percent a month for that which you don't pay. They love you when you don't pay
the card. You're worried about giving them the minimum amount so they don't get angry at you. And they want the minimum amount. They're praying that you won't pay them back because you're paying so much interest. You have to live, to save and save to live. I'm gonna say that again because it's that important. You have to live, to save and save to live. In my world, there's no Las Vegas. There's no gambling. You can't afford the throwing way mind. You work too hard. You can't afford it.
There's a time and place for everything. You want to be rich. I want to be rich. You want to be smart for yourself. You have to be determined to understanding what you're doing. You have to determine if you're being compensated fairly or if not fairly, because I'm not sure that word exists. I've said it fairest for kids. But you have to understand whether you're being paid compatibly. Are you getting a competitive wage, a competitive four
oh one k stock, all the perks that accumulate. Well, if you have to see where you're going, you have to see the future where you are or it's on you. You have to leave. This is on you. Opportunity and becoming rich is not gambling. You have to be positioned well. You have to ask yourself, do I thrive in this environment? I want to be rich. So what's it like to be rich? The company, the people, the products, enable people to do with the products that
they think they need to do for themselves. It's a wonderful thing to allow you to invest in ideas. Money is a means for keeping score. It's all about work. But as I said earlier from Steve Jobs, he didn't work to become rich. He worked for every other reason there was to work for, and he became rich. And looking back on myself, by the examples I've just given to you, I always wanted to be rich. As Jesse said earlier, I wanted my independence. I always wanted to do what
I want to do when I want her to do it. I always wanted to make sure that in times of difficulty, I had enough money set aside that I didn't have to worry where the next dollar is coming from. God forbid, you lose your job, you're sure you could survive whatever's thrown your way. I didn't work to become rich. I worked to become smart, to like myself more, to be proud of myself. We all want to
be rich. Take a break, come back, and we're going to talk about some other subjects, because tonight I feel like talking Always in fashion, I spent a lifetime of my career building the van Usen Brand, and I am so pleased that they're back with us now talking about suits. Men were dressing up again, and it's become cool to wear a suit. Suits can be won on multiple occasions, in multiple ways. You could wear a suit formally to go out at night or to an event. You wear a suit
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dress shirts. It's only proper that to suit business follows strongly in its way. You can find van using cool Flex Men's stretch suits at jcpenny or online at jcpenny dot com. Guys, they're great. You should go look at them. Welcome back to Always in Fashion. Here's your host, Mark Webber. I want to talk. I need to talk. I don't mind talking, which is really where I am today. Starter off this week, pissed off at you all, well not all of you, but the ones who
complained that I did a repeat show last week. I was sick, I didn't feel good. I got oddly breathe, I was congested, I had had itch, I was nauseous. I don't know what it was, but it wasn't fun. I couldn't record, and I have people complaining that I ran a repeat show. Excuse me. I've been on the air for seven years. Multiply that to fifties, three hundred and fifty different shows. So I give you one you haven't heard before, and even if you did,
you're complaining. Give me a break now. Jesse, on the other hand, says, the fact that you guys are interested and we're looking for new and excited about new is probably more correct than me. But if I accepted everything the way it is, I don't know that would be as interesting as we should be. On top of which, you think it's easy competing against the best of the best, We'll competing. It's every Fox host, every NBC host, every famous person in the world, every sports guy, every
celebrity. Everybody has something to say, except do they really. I've listened to a number of shows. Some of these guys are brilliant. Joe Rogan, you got to listen to them. He's brilliant. And that's what we're competing against them. Whoever heard of me? Nobody except I know one thing, Jesse and I know how to talk. We have to find interesting subjects
that we do when we're different from everyone else. And all these geniuses who are doing news and everything else that they're covering, they ain't so great. But thank you for listening. And even though it pissed me off, I appreciate the fact that you look forward to hearing from us every week, So
I don't mind talking. And what I wanted to do is I wanted to talk about some observations this week because within all of my bluster, within all the conversations, within all this cultural and lifestyle information that we share, we also have the word fashion. Always in fashion, and I've done my fair share of shopping and got me thinking about MAGA make America great Again. Now, before you all start leaving the old yeah Trump Haids, leave the show.
I'm not talking about Trump again. Didn't there did that? I want to talk about MYCGA make your company great Again. What got me thinking about this is I was in Bloomingdale's. I like Bloomingdale's, particularly in the men's department. I think bloomingdale is a good store. You know, it has a great home department. Relatively small, but you can buy sheets and pillowcases
and blankets and dishes and whatever all that stuff's called. And you can find some very interesting great brands and women's that you know worthy taking a look at. I enjoy shopping that, and of course men's words relatively small and intimate. And I found myself in the Georgia Omanei department the other day and they had a puffy jacket that I liked, and there were three of them on the rack. All three were sized forty six. Forty six is the equivalent
in US sizes to thirty six. I tried one on. It's too tight on me. Now I'm a solid medium right now. I went from extra large. I used to be like Rocky and Rocky one, and then I trimmed down to Rocky Rocky two, became a middleweight. So I'm standing around, I'm looking at this. I want this jacket, and you know, go find someone to help you. And sure enough, someone did walk over, and I said, do you have this in the equivalent of a forty two? And they said to me, we made downstairs. Will you be
willing to wait? I have to go downstairs and find it, So I said, yeah, I'll wait. The woman was nice enough. She disappeared for about ten minutes and came up with two different sizes, forty eight and fifty. And it turned out I liked the forty eight and it fit me really snug, and I really liked it. And I started to ask,
which I already knew the answer to. Our money has standards. When you shop in luxury stores, very often all they will have on IRAQ is one of each size, and if they sell the size, they don't have a chance to replenish it. But more often than not, you walk through these stops and they look so sparse, they look so boutiquey, that you can't take the brand seriously. And if there wasn't someone standing there, there was never a chance that I would have bought that item that I did buy.
I want to hold that thought because I understand luxury and it's different. I started to think about J C. Penny. I'm a fan of the store in a limited way. I have a history with that store dating back to my early years in business, when I used to sell them private label products.
What a private label? There are products that I had an expertise in, like men's dress shirts, but I didn't sell them our brand name because J C. Penny was about their own label, Stafford and whatever other labels they had, and we wouldn't want to sell them our brands at that time because J C. Penny he wasn't about brands. They weren't of the level and the quality to support brand levels. We were focused on department stores. But over the course of time I learned to shop and the quality is great.
These selections are pretty good. I was walking with my son and he said to me, do you see a difference between Cole's and JC Penny? And I couldn't believe they would have asked me that question because I see light years difference between Coal's and JC Penny. JC Penny behaves like a department store.
Oh really, it's not. It's a national chain that is very often involved in discounted branded products now, whereas Coals is a combination of discounted products across the board with a few national brands, and it looks like a different kind of store, general purpose store. I like both stores. They both have a reason for me. They both have to service their customers. It's
not the thing about these stores. And I started to think of where we are today and how hard it is to be relevant and what is really going on. I need eyeglasses, or at least I need to get an eye exam. I didn't know where to go. I'm sure it's like a pain in the neck. How do you find an eye doctor in this day and age? You answer that question, Jesse, I mean you just look up optometrists right and make sure they don't look nuts. It's even easier than that.
It's called Warby Parker. I never gave them two seconds worth of interest. I'm walking through a mall and I see Warby Parker. I walked to the front desk and say, can I get my eyes examined? Said absolutely? What time are you available? And I said, well, now he says, well, we'll not really now, but we have over the next half hour to three hours appointments every half hour if you want one, I said, Boom, All of a sudden, you could have your eyes exam
pick glasses in your business. And that changed in my view in an instant, my view of optometry and finding glasses. And it got me thinking about make your company great again or in this country Maga and I started to think about, do you ever, Jesse, think about Sears? Sears? What is this nineteen ninety three. Now that's amazing because at one time Sears was
the biggest retailer in America. They were at every major mall, every strip center that had the greatest products via home, from lawnmowers to hammers, to refrigerators to everything in apparel. And if you were anyone but anyone, you couldn't make a living in this world of apparel without having something at Sears. I've told the story that I met once with the merchandiser who ran men's wear for Sears. We were trying to sell them for many years. We had
no relationship. They didn't carry any brands, they would only carry their own labels. And if you had something to offer them that you can make for them with their own label, they would consider buying it from you. And because we were the largest and one of the most successful shirt companies in the history of the world, we had our audience with Sears and I met with this guy and at the time, he was very interested in the van Usen brand, and he asked me for the rights to sell van Usen in the
Seer's store. And I, in my own way, apologized profusely that Sears and the price points and the level and the kind of operation that Sears ran, which was no frills discounts across America, was not in keeping with the brand image of van Usen. We were a department store resource that would be found in nordstroum Orn, belk Orn, Macy's, not in Sears, a
discount chain that was offered all around the world. And the guy looked at me and he said, do you realize that just two rows of your product you mark ultimately will be able to retire If you're getting commissioned for selling that to Sears. There are people who live their whole life fighting to get two rows at Sears. Because so much business that we do it's beyond belief.
It's an annuity, something your family could have forever. And if you're lucky enough to have Sears as your customer, your sons can inherit that business and you have a future forever. That's how powerful Sears was. Sears had a billion dollar catalog before we knew about the internet, and the same held true for J. C. Penny. There's a small company changing direction a little. I'm talking about making your company great again. Maga. My maga called
Jay Crew. You ever hear a J Crewe Jesse, Yeah, of course. You know what's funny about J Crew. I always want to buy something and can't find anything. It's funny that you say that, because I agree with you. They have a lot of very good looking stuff, but it's hard to make the purchase. But J Crew began as a catalog business. There's a family and old business and then this famous retail executive Mickey Drexler, who's one of the founders of Gap, one of the founders of Old Navy,
one of the founders of the people that bought Banana Republic. This retail genius invested in Jay Crewe became a retail network. It became a billion dollar company, and it went from a small catalog business to this huge global business called Jay Crew. And it asked me, where are the people that made these companies great? And what is the future because so many of these companies
don't exist anymore. And you know what's going on now, Walmart. Walmart obsoleted almost every retailer in America. Who's selling price, who's selling value? I'll never get I really wasn't a Walmart customer. I never thought about them until, of all things, I was in Cancun, Mexico, I'm gonna guess nineteen ninety and their entire roadways were closed off for miles and miles and miles, or if they weren't closed, lanes were closed to make room for
the opening of Walmart that day and that week. Walmart changed the world because Sam Walton had a view of what America wanted, what they needed, and how to get to them. Amazing concept. And then of course there's Amazon. You're an Amazon fan, Jess, I am. I think it's incredibly convenient, and that is what's changing the world. They're not my first choice to buy things. I'm a luxury guy by and large, so it doesn't relate to me. But boy, are they changing the world? And what
will the world look like in a short time from now? Back in a minute? Always in fashion, I've been shopping for fun lately, and while I'm out, I always look at men's and I look at women's. What's going on? And I was particularly interested in DKY because of their sponsorship of the show. I went downstairs at Macy's thirty fourth Street to look around and I saw dkmy activewear, and I promise you, ladies, it is sensational. From the sports bras to the crop tops, to the leggings and the
sweats, it really is a great look. And dk Y had begun as an all American brand dressing casual clothes engines, and the stuff looks incredible and right now the colors and the styles is so exciting that I feel great about the company. I always do. I wear the men's where all the time. I've had situations where I've gone to big events and been interviewed and TV or the radio, and someone comes up to me in a microphone and like
they always do, who you're wearing? And here I am, this big shot with big company and they say, well, I'm wearing a DKY and they laugh and say, no, you're not. I actually have one on the internet where you could see me. They ask me what suit I'm wearing, and I say d and why and open it up and there's the DKY label. Great fashion, it fits well, it looks right. It's designed
to make you comfortable in the city, goes from day and tonight. You could wear it in the morning, you wear it in the afternoon, and you look cool at night as well. It's great for the office. It's a great for leisure. But I'm talking about the DKY active wear. The first time I really became aware of Jesse and I were up at Sirius Radio.
He was doing a job for Serious He does Dan Abrams show, he fills in on the Potus Network, and we were in the lobby and this hip hop group came up with this really great looking Latino singer girl Young Beautiful, and she was wearing a DKY sports bar and I said to myself, this is amazing. Actually went to Macy's to see it, and I'm excited about the brand. And I tell you what, ladies, dk Y always has great fashion for work, Always wonderful dresses and things that you'd wear.
Their accessories are great, the shoes are always very cool. But active wear in particular right now looks sensational and being that everyone's athleisure and active where it's a great time dky go take a look. As one of the world's most celebrated fashion designers, Carl Lagafeld was renowned for his aspirational and cutting edge approach to style. His unique vision of Parisian shit comes to America through Carl Lagofeld
Paris. He has women's collections, men's collections, ready to wear, accessory, shoes and bags. The fashion house Carlagofeld also offers a range of watches I wear in premium fragrances. You can explore the Carlagovol collection at Carlagofelpoaris dot com. But it's more than that. I, for one, love to shop. I love going around and seeing what's happening and what catches my attention, what would make me feel good to wear now. I don't wear the
women's wear obviously, but I can appreciate it and they look amazing. If you want to look right, you want to have clothes that fits you well. You want to look like you're wearing something that's very expensive, that's exclusive for you and yours. You can find it at very affordable prices at Macy's Orcarlagofel dot com, Paris. The women's ready to wear fashion is extraordinary, as well as the handbags and the shoes. I, for one, wear
men's clothes, unlike my appreciation of women's clothes. I'm a modern guy. I want to look current, I want to look the way I want to feel. I go out at night, I'm in black and Carlagofel is my buddy. Calls are great. They fit great, and they have little tweaks and touches, whether it's a stripe on the sleeve or button at the neck or on the shoulder. There's a lot of details that go into Carl Lagafel because he's always been, he always had been, one of the world's great
designers, and this legacy and goes on and on. I can't speak enough about it except to say to you, you want to feel good about yourself. You want to know that you're dressing properly. You want to clothes that fits you well. Carl Lagafeld Paris at Macy's Orcarl Lagafel dot com welcome back to it. Always in fashion. Here's your host, Mark Webber. I don't mind talking. That's tonight's show picked a bunch of subjects that are related
and unrelated at the same time because I want to talk about him. I recognize that we are competing, Jesse and I for your ears, for you to listen to us, to invest time with us, and well, competing against the best of the best and the one an where do we have the right to compete against these famous ar tours, comedians, celebrities, sports authorities. I just think we have something to say, and I don't mind talking about it, and whether it's politics, whether it's business, whether it's career
advice, or it's just observations of what's going on in the world. Hopefully you're enjoying it. Having said that, tonight I don't mind talking. I hope you don't mind listening. Good Night,